the price of gas

Spotnick wrote: I paid 1.06$ per liter this week... I know this is business as usual in Europe, but damn it!! it was at 62 cents 2 years ago... :(

after performing currency and metric conversions, you win. or lose, i suppose.

we do moan a lot about the price of gas in this country. what is it, 500 quid a litre in the UK now?

when i rented a car in jordan in 2000 petrol was practically free, and they don't even produce it--they must have some deal with the saudis. i also saw a lot of dodgy, ancient iraqi tankers trolling the highways. the tour book suggested passing them as soon as possible, since because of the sanctions iraq had no money to fix the tankers so they had a tendency to blow their tires, tip over and explode. you'd see remnants by the side of the road. i bet they sold their gas for pennies!

Spotnick wrote: I paid 1.06$ per liter this week... I know this is business as usual in Europe, but damn it!! it was at 62 cents 2 years ago... :(

It's over a dollar in Montreal?? It's 99.2 cents per litre in Toronto. I think I'll crap my pants if it goes over the dollar mark. (I know it's inevitable, but still, $1 seems outrageous.)

I don't know how to do the conversions, but around my part of the country, the average price of gas is $2.86 per gallon. I guess I feel kind of lucky that I don't have my permit yet, since the price of public transportation doesn't seem so bad anymore.

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Don't worry , BUSH will Bomb some more middle eastern countries to bring the proce down

$2.62 for premium. Notice that when gas prices jump drasticically that the quality of gas gets shitty?

"when i rented a car in jordan in 2000 " (Agent Wood)

Ah Jordan.... did you like it?.I was there back in 1996.Petra and Wadi Rum.Loved that desert landscape at Wadi.

Spotnick wrote: I paid 1.06$ per liter this week... I know this is business as usual in Europe, but damn it!! it was at 62 cents 2 years ago... :(

I paid 1,29 Euros per liter yesterday...

I walked yesterday. Of course, if I had any money, I'd be burning up the atmosphere like the rest of you lot.

Digital Mike Binoche wrote: Don't worry , BUSH will Bomb some more middle eastern countries to bring the proce down

But the more he bombs, the more it seems to go UP.

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I never thought i would see the day, where gas is cheaper in nyc then the rest of america.

Johnny wrote: "when i rented a car in jordan in 2000 " (Agent Wood)

Ah Jordan.... did you like it?.I was there back in 1996.Petra and Wadi Rum.Loved that desert landscape at Wadi.

petra is possibly the most amazing place on earth. i've never seen anything like it and i doubt i ever will.

You don't want to live in Holland. I paid 1.345 Euro / L today.

Please tell me that somewhere else in Europe it's more expensive. That would really make me feel a little bit better.

i accidentally put the special stuff in my car the other day (instead of cheap stuff) and it was £0.89/l Goddam it! as for it's equivalent in dollars or euros - buggered if i know

In Sweden, 1 litre of gas costs €1.40, or $2.

it's about $2.29 a gallon in the orlando area, which would make it just over 50 cents/liter. and these are 'sky high' prices.

i think we should have to pay more, then we could focus more on public transportation.

paid $2.489 this saturday for regular - almost $35 to fill the tank - and it'll only last me 2-3 days

Currently we pay about $1.15 AUD per liter, which is about 30 cents dearer than about a year ago. This works out to about $1 US a liter at our dollar being about 77 us cents.

It's a shame they don't reinvest fuel tax in providing us with renewable energy sources, instead they spend it on bombing other countries in illegal wars!

84.9p per litre is the cheapest around here, which is curently $1.53.

digitalwaters wrote: It's a shame they don't reinvest fuel tax in providing us with renewable energy sources, instead they spend it on bombing other countries in illegal wars!

Please define "illegal" in this context.

AgentWood wrote: .

i think we should have to pay more, then we could focus more on public transportation.

or................

foucs more on home grown renewable bio-fuels. It would help the consumer. It would help the American Farmer. And, it would help with national security.

bio fuels hahahahHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHA. OK ILL STOP there is no way that bio fuels could ever ever cope with the demand for fuel full stop. could you imagine the amount of land needed just to cope with todays fuel crisis,and the effect that it will have on the enviroment never mind what is waiting around the corner with india and china now becoming major economies with consumers all wanting what we have,cars,motorbikes,trucks ect ect. its time for a total rethink on transport,work ethics and enviromental morality in general. one instance i can point out is the claim that "work from home" will help the enviroment,maybe but i doubt it,many of my neighbours do so but lo and behold they still have 2 cars,maybe that is the answer 1 car per household,of course then the murder rate will go up over whos having the car and when. its hydrogen,or electric cars and pronto or we are all doomed im afraid.

Tex wrote:

AgentWood wrote: .

i think we should have to pay more, then we could focus more on public transportation.

or................

foucs more on home grown renewable bio-fuels. It would help the consumer. It would help the American Farmer. And, it would help with national security.

We agree on something?

Of course, "The American Farmer" could mean the American Family Farm, or more likely, a trans-national corporate agribusiness. Are we talking about helping the family farmer stay in business? Or the transnational corporate agribusiness? If we're talking about helping the latter, they don't need any more "help," they've grown fat enough manipulating public policy to help themselves. Once they get their hooks in transportation policy, we'll NEVER shift to an ecologically sound transportation system. They'd cut down the last rainforests to grow soy beans for biofuels, all the while telling us how ecological their product is.

mike powell wrote: bio fuels hahahahHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHA. OK ILL STOP there is no way that bio fuels could ever ever cope with the demand for fuel full stop. could you imagine the amount of land needed just to cope with todays fuel crisis,and the effect that it will have on the enviroment never mind what is waiting around the corner with india and china now becoming major economies with consumers all wanting what we have,cars,motorbikes,trucks ect ect. its time for a total rethink on transport,work ethics and enviromental morality in general. one instance i can point out is the claim that "work from home" will help the enviroment,maybe but i doubt it,many of my neighbours do so but lo and behold they still have 2 cars,maybe that is the answer 1 car per household,of course then the murder rate will go up over whos having the car and when. its hydrogen,or electric cars and pronto or we are all doomed im afraid.

And of course, Mike's right as well. Trying to provide biuofuels for every human being who wants to drive solo (which is pretty much every human being, given the chance) is an ecological disaster waiting to unfold.

But biofuels are a better interim measure than gasoline, at least climatologically, and if seen as an interim measure while we build an ecologically sound long-term transportation system, whatever that might be-- public transportaion networks, land use planning that doesn't make automobile use a necessity, ecologically sound power sources-- then biofuels are definitely what we need to be shifting to today. But only for today.

Then there're these guys. Make it a biodiesel hybrid and you're on the right track.

mike powell wrote: bio fuels hahahahHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHA. OK ILL STOP there is no way that bio fuels could ever ever cope with the demand for fuel full stop. could you imagine the amount of land needed just to cope with todays fuel crisis,and the effect that it will have on the enviroment never mind what is waiting around the corner with india and china now becoming major economies with consumers all wanting what we have,cars,motorbikes,trucks ect ect. its time for a total rethink on transport,work ethics and enviromental morality in general. one instance i can point out is the claim that "work from home" will help the enviroment,maybe but i doubt it,many of my neighbours do so but lo and behold they still have 2 cars,maybe that is the answer 1 car per household,of course then the murder rate will go up over whos having the car and when. its hydrogen,or electric cars and pronto or we are all doomed im afraid.

Maybe you guys don't have the land, but we certainly do. And, the whole point of going to bio-fuels would be to let China and India try their hands at Middle East foreign policy for a few decades.

it's very difficult to have a viable intercity public transportation system outside of the bowash corridor because of the distances involved. but within cities i would like to see more focus on building and expanding safe (meaning less crime!), extensive public transport instead of building more freeways.

i didn't buy my first car until i was 28, and that was only out of necessity. living in new york city and in the UK one doesn't really need a car (well, if one lives in west wales it might be a different story...), and i don't feel particularly attached to mine. but without it it would take me lord knows how many hours to get from point A to point B, not to mention the buses don't reach all points in orange county.

for an interesting take on americans and our dependence on cars read this short essay. we read it in 7th grade without knowing about whom we were reading. we all agreed that these were uncivilized savages...until we found out what the article was referring to. then it came as quite a shock!

bLuE oRdEr wrote:

Tex wrote:

AgentWood wrote: .

i think we should have to pay more, then we could focus more on public transportation.

or................

foucs more on home grown renewable bio-fuels. It would help the consumer. It would help the American Farmer. And, it would help with national security.

We agree on something?

Of course, "The American Farmer" could mean the American Family Farm, or more likely, a trans-national corporate agribusiness. Are we talking about helping the family farmer stay in business? Or the transnational corporate agribusiness? If we're talking about helping the latter, they don't need any more "help," they've grown fat enough manipulating public policy to help themselves. Once they get their hooks in transportation policy, we'll NEVER shift to an ecologically sound transportation system. They'd cut down the last rainforests to grow soy beans for biofuels, all the while telling us how ecological their product is.

Blue,

Not even I think the likes of ADM need any help. When I say "American farmer", I mean a family owned farm.

How do we keep a bio-fuel revolution out of the hands of Big Farm? I don't really know. Maybe through *cough* *hack* government *wretch* regulation????

Bloody heck. It just went up 10 cents today.

As a comparison, gas where I live is about $0,95 the liter. Near here I can find at 0,81 the liter.

102.9c (euro) here for a litre of ULSD, 104.9 for 95 RON petrol.

Thank feck my car does just under 60MPG. On ULSD. And I was still able to take a Porsche 996 and have him spend 45 miles trying to get past me...

What the feck are you driving?

bLuE oRdEr wrote: What the feck are you driving?

a delorean, you idiot. can't you see his avatar?

Canberra being the marvel of modern 1960's and 70's planning is almost completely dependant on the motor car. It is very suburban, and although only just over 300 000. in population, one is able to drive 50 km from one end to the other end. The only public transport we have are a very slow bus system. A 25 min car journey can easily become a 1.5 hour+ bus trip. Plus they stop running at about 11pm, and Taxis are very expensive because of the distances involved. So,unfortunately a car is essential here.

MYOB wrote: 102.9c (euro) here for a litre of ULSD, 104.9 for 95 RON petrol.

Thank feck my car does just under 60MPG. On ULSD. And I was still able to take a Porsche 996 and have him spend 45 miles trying to get past me...

Did the guy know his gear has more than 3 speeds?

Ronald Kirsch wrote: Canberra being the marvel of modern 1960's and 70's planning is almost completely dependant on the motor car. It is very suburban, and although only just over 300 000. in population, one is able to drive 50 km from one end to the other end. The only public transport we have are a very slow bus system. A 25 min car journey can easily become a 1.5 hour+ bus trip. Plus they stop running at about 11pm, and Taxis are very expensive because of the distances involved. So,unfortunately a car is essential here.

i have a friend from grad school who went to ANU (he's from toowoomba, queensland) and he seemed to like canberra somewhat, but then would say the crappiest things about it. i think he's back there now, working for the government in some capacity (but he could be in brisbane--dunno).

he did hold the best ANZAC day party i ever went to, though.

Ronald Kirsch wrote: Canberra being the marvel of modern 1960's and 70's planning is almost completely dependant on the motor car. It is very suburban, and although only just over 300 000. in population, one is able to drive 50 km from one end to the other end. The only public transport we have are a very slow bus system. A 25 min car journey can easily become a 1.5 hour+ bus trip. Plus they stop running at about 11pm, and Taxis are very expensive because of the distances involved. So,unfortunately a car is essential here.

Driving from my apartment to school is a 10-15 minute trip. The bus is a 1.5 - 2 hour trip. As long as that's the case, it's not likely that many people will willingly commute by public transit.

AgentWood wrote:

bLuE oRdEr wrote: What the feck are you driving?

a delorean, you idiot. can't you see his avatar?

AgentWood wrote:

Ronald Kirsch wrote: Canberra being the marvel of modern 1960's and 70's planning is almost completely dependant on the motor car. It is very suburban, and although only just over 300 000. in population, one is able to drive 50 km from one end to the other end. The only public transport we have are a very slow bus system. A 25 min car journey can easily become a 1.5 hour+ bus trip. Plus they stop running at about 11pm, and Taxis are very expensive because of the distances involved. So,unfortunately a car is essential here.

i have a friend from grad school who went to ANU (he's from toowoomba, queensland) and he seemed to like canberra somewhat, but then would say the crappiest things about it. i think he's back there now, working for the government in some capacity (but he could be in brisbane--dunno).

he did hold the best ANZAC day party i ever went to, though.

Don't get me wrong. Canberra is a great place to live, grow up and study etc. Even with what I wrote above. It just is dependant on the car. Other negatives are that it is a bit quiet/boring and a bit too cool in winter. But hey the forecast for tomorrow is 17 degrees C. Time to get the shots and t-shits out.

Ronald Kirsch wrote: Time to get the shots and t-shits out.

whoa. you've got some strange habits down there!

ok shorts. Am I turning into Spike?

i was driving into Oban 'Sunshinne Capital of the world' TM. yesterday and i went past a petrol station and it was the first time i've ever seen petrol a t £1 a litre it was quite shocking. petrols abit of rip off anyway up these parts being so far out from real civilisation but its still bloody pricey, i hope theres another petrol strike soon! but a bit of pressure on tony and the boys to cut fuel tax

I put the Jag in the garage and been biking to work. Fortunately it is a twenty minute bike ride to work. Two weeks ago I put $40 USD into the tank and barely got over a quarter tank. NJeed to get a Miata that runs on diesel.

$2.61 a gallon

If it hits the big 3.00, I will be contacting my friends Mr. Gas and Mr. Dash

what i don't understand is why gas is so much cheaper in rural areas than large cities. at the moment its almost 10-15 cents cheaper in smaller communities!

reformulated? sounds suspicious to me.

One odd thing about this is that it'll give the people who want self-service here less ammunition (Oregon is one of two states where you can't pump your own, New Jersey the other). I've noticed consistently higher prices at the pumps in Washington and California than here. I don't mind letting someone else do the work, though I do fuel up for our companies rigs at a commerical pump. Besides, it gives OSU grads something to do.

[darkgreen]Green[/darkgreen] wrote: One odd thing about this is that it'll give the people who want self-service here less ammunition (Oregon is one of two states where you can't pump your own, New Jersey the other). I've noticed consistently higher prices at the pumps in Washington and California than here. I don't mind letting someone else do the work, though I do fuel up for our companies rigs at a commerical pump. Besides, it gives OSU grads something to do.

Price is falling. $2.39 for 89 octane Ethynol. Iowa lowers the tax on Ethyl because it is made from something our farmers produce.

I love 1987 wrote: well...it allegedly burns cleaner...

"Allegedly" is right. There has been no real proof that reformulated gasoline reduces emissions.

From a cost perspective, refineries must produce many different formulas. In some cases, for specific urban areas. So combine high demand, refinery capacity (the USA hasn't built a new refinery in almost 30 years)and delivery of at least 17 different formulations * of gasoline and you end up with $$$$$ at the pump.

* 17 states require reformulated gaoline. There are formulations for specific urban areas within each state.

because 95% of oil production in the gulf of mexico has ceased. it's going to go even higher, my friend.

i look at it this way: at least i have my home and my life...and a car left.

Despite the fact that its entirely north sea - UK, Holland and Norway - oil thats used for the fuel here, and that 60% of Ireland's consumption is refined on the island in Whitegate, I can't wait to see how high Gougeol, err, Maxol, have gone today.

Dont worry: any poor citizens of the United States can get cheap fuel (or "gas" if you like) thanks to Victor Hugo Chavez and his new scheme to help the poor in that most unequal of societies.

It is a very generous offer, espically considering the shameful history of the US state in Central and South America. Like any price hike, this will affect the poor first and hardest. Nice of the Chavistas to redistribute - even if it is a drop in the ocean.

www.citgo.com

www.pdv.com

Also: MYOB: How did the Leaving go? Hope it went well anyhow.

--C

The price here (Finger Lakes region of NYS) rose sharply...from $2.61/gal., to $2.73, to $2.97/$3.09 (the SAME DAY), and now averages $2.97 to $3.19 a gallon.

Awful awful awful

Where I live, the price of petrol is predicted to reach 1.40-1.50€/l by the weekend . :dead:

Here's a simple slogan, I hope to spread it across the internet as a means of promoting fuel conservation:

Save Gas. Ban NASCAR

See, that would solve all our problems

I'll be run out of the South now

i'm watching the local news now. there's no more gas left in the county because of the panic, and twelve florida school districts have run out of gas for their school buses. our school district, orange county, has enough to last until the end of next week, apparently; but students have to make their own way to sports games and other afterschool activities.

i have about a quarter of a tank left. good thing i'm not planning on going anywhere for labor day weekend.

I don't care about the price of gas, it can go higher. Maybe that will stop people from buying stupid oversized SUV... I ride my bike to work (wich is about 15km from home)and the car stays home.

Sorry for the others dear planet

Be Music wrote: I don't care about the price of gas, it can go higher. Maybe that will stop people from buying stupid oversized SUV... I ride my bike to work (wich is about 15km from home)and the car stays home.

Sorry for the others dear planet

Ditto.

People want cheap gas to fuel their over-sized gas-guzzling SUVs, and then are surprised when the environmental consequences of that catch up to them.

Spotnick wrote:

Be Music wrote: I don't care about the price of gas, it can go higher. Maybe that will stop people from buying stupid oversized SUV... I ride my bike to work (wich is about 15km from home)and the car stays home.

Sorry for the others dear planet

Not quite useful when it's -20 in February though

Just can't wait for the subway station to open right around the corner

Friend of mine called me from Iraq last night and said gas there costs 10 cents per gallon.

His Holiness, The Pope wrote: Friend of mine called me from Iraq last night and said gas there costs 10 cents per gallon.

ok lets all move there then.

In the borough of brooklyn, ive seen a range of $3.00-$3.50. This has caused lines for gas, the first ive seen in my lifetime.

btw,Nico: What is the currency rate between our countries? I remember when it was around 1.50usd/1.00 cd. Those days are long gone and i know it has lowered considerbly.

sorry to barge in, but i think the rate is now $1 US = .80 c

I'm gonna have to fill up tomorrow and pay over $1.00/litre for the first time. It's around $1.23/litre in Toronto. I filled up last Saturday at $0.94/litre.

This is gonna hurt. Thank god I drive a Honda.

Think you're paying too much?

In 1973, OPEC launched an oil embargo. Gasoline went from 30 cents/gallon to $1.20/gallon; you'd probably like to be paying those prices now, right?

Think again. In 1974, $1.20/gallon was the equavialent of $4.99/gallon in 2005 dollars. The old price, .30/gallon, is equivalent to $1.32 today. So while gas was relatively cheaper pre-embargo, during the embargo, it was relatively more expensive than it is today.

As of late, been hearing similar quotes about relative gas prices for the early 80s as well, but I'm too lazy now to find a link for that.

I don't drive, so I don't pay much attention to prices. What was gas going for before the recent rise in prices?

It just went up another 15c here to $1.40.

BTW the rise in the price of petrol doesn't affect me. I always put $20 worth in. Ok ok old joke.

bLuE oRdEr wrote: I don't drive, so I don't pay much attention to prices. What was gas going for before the recent rise in prices?

here it was around $2.30/gal, if i remember correctly, although it did get as high as $2.40 for a while. now it's $3.00.

still pennies compared to europe.

AgentWood wrote:

bLuE oRdEr wrote: I don't drive, so I don't pay much attention to prices. What was gas going for before the recent rise in prices?

here it was around $2.30/gal, if i remember correctly, although it did get as high as $2.40 for a while. now it's $3.00.

still pennies compared to europe.

That's .52/gallon in 1973 dollars. Higher than 1973 gas prices, but waaayyy lower than 1974 gas prices.

bLuE oRdEr wrote:

AgentWood wrote:

bLuE oRdEr wrote: I don't drive, so I don't pay much attention to prices. What was gas going for before the recent rise in prices?

here it was around $2.30/gal, if i remember correctly, although it did get as high as $2.40 for a while. now it's $3.00.

still pennies compared to europe.

That's .52/gallon in 1973 dollars. Higher than 1973 gas prices, but waaayyy lower than 1974 gas prices.

so i'm paying $20.75 for a goddamn big mac meal? so to speak.

p.s. i just noticed the URL of the website. i wonder what scott and zelda would have paid for a big mac, had they lived in 1974.

Hmmm... at $4.99 in 2005 dollars, a big mac meal should have cost $1.20 in 1974 dollars, and .46 in 1925 dollars.

Now I see the problem-- a meal that cost $4.99 in 1974 would cost $20.75 today, but in 1974, a meal that costs $4.99 today would have cost $1.20. See?

bLuE oRdEr wrote: Hmmm... at $4.99 in 2005 dollars, a big mac meal should have cost $1.20 in 1974 dollars, and .46 in 1925 dollars.

Now I see the problem-- a meal that cost $4.99 in 1974 would cost $20.75 today, but in 1974, a meal that costs $4.99 today would have cost $1.20. See?

as they didn't sell big mac meals in 1974 we'll never know what their actual cost was, so we can't use the inflation calculator. however, i'd imagine they would have cost less than $1.20. 99 cents, perhaps? and in 1925--much, much less than 46 cents, i'm sure.

In 1968, a Big Mac cost .49. In 2005, that same Big Mac would cost $2.71, while the Fitzgerld's would have paid .25 for the Big Mac in 1925.

Not sure how much the Big Mac is discounted with a Meal. Maybe the price of the burger remains steady, and the fries and drink are discounted?

bLuE oRdEr wrote: In 1968, a Big Mac cost .49. In 2005, that same Big Mac would cost $2.71, while the Fitzgerld's would have paid .25 for the Big Mac in 1925.

Not sure how much the Big Mac is discounted with a Meal. Maybe the price of the burger remains steady, and the fries and drink are discounted?

next time i'm in the drive thru i will pose that question.

AgentWood wrote:

bLuE oRdEr wrote: In 1968, a Big Mac cost .49. In 2005, that same Big Mac would cost $2.71, while the Fitzgerld's would have paid .25 for the Big Mac in 1925.

Not sure how much the Big Mac is discounted with a Meal. Maybe the price of the burger remains steady, and the fries and drink are discounted?

next time i'm in the drive thru i will pose that question.

So you do eat maccas.

Ronald Kirsch wrote:

AgentWood wrote:

bLuE oRdEr wrote: In 1968, a Big Mac cost .49. In 2005, that same Big Mac would cost $2.71, while the Fitzgerld's would have paid .25 for the Big Mac in 1925.

Not sure how much the Big Mac is discounted with a Meal. Maybe the price of the burger remains steady, and the fries and drink are discounted?

next time i'm in the drive thru i will pose that question.

So you do eat maccas.

of course. yum. nice 'n' healthy.

I 'spose they are. Prefer home-cooked to maccas, masel...

AgentWood wrote:

Ronald Kirsch wrote:

AgentWood wrote:

bLuE oRdEr wrote: In 1968, a Big Mac cost .49. In 2005, that same Big Mac would cost $2.71, while the Fitzgerld's would have paid .25 for the Big Mac in 1925.

Not sure how much the Big Mac is discounted with a Meal. Maybe the price of the burger remains steady, and the fries and drink are discounted?

next time i'm in the drive thru i will pose that question.

So you do eat maccas.

of course. yum. nice 'n' healthy.

I can admit my guilty secret shame then too. Yes once a week I visit our favourite scottish restaurant.

At a time like this im glad i live in new york city. Public transportation for me all the time. Except late nites when i might indulge by taking a cab.I make a point of tipping the cabbie extra now because they still charge the same fares. Unless they accuse me of ruining the interior of their car.

Its so nice not having to feel guilty about buying gas. The less you own, the less you have to compromise yrself.

i don't even look at the price. (just fill the bleedin tank up)

The highest I've seen here in chicago was $3.89 drop now to $3.29. If it keeps going we are going to hit the 4 dollar mark soon.

My landrover eats 1 gallon every 11 miles. Anyone want to buy it???

Fac51 TheHacienda wrote: My landrover eats 1 gallon every 11 miles. Anyone want to buy it???

This is exactly why I got myself a nice and sensible car.

Gas is less than $1 per litre again! Oh happy day!!