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Two men have been killed and two others injured in a shooting at a pub in Greater Manchester. Officers were called to reports of gun shots at the Brass Handles pub on Fitzwarren Street, in Salford, at 1420 GMT on Sunday afternoon.

They found two men had been shot dead. The two injured men were taken to hospital with serious injuries.

Dozens of police officers are now in the area searching for evidence, and roads have been closed.

Greater Manchester Police said both the dead men were of mixed race, but they had not yet been identified.

It's a very rough pub. There is always something going on around here with police involved

Local woman Two other men - both white - who had also been shot, were taken in a private car to Hope Hospital in Salford, where they are currently being treated under police guard.

The pub is in the Langworthy area of the city, close to the Salford shopping precinct. It was packed with customers watching Manchester United's football match on television.

'Lads in hoods'

One woman, who did not want to be named, said she was visiting her mother's house across the road from the pub when the shooting happened.

"All these young lads in hoods came out from one street and ran towards the pub.

"There was another gang of them further down the road. I thought, 'What the hell's going on?'

The pub was sealed off for forensic examinations

"After I went inside my mother's house she said to me, 'There's fireworks going off.'

"I looked outside and saw one young lad on the ground and another older man in bushes on the ground, with his arms outstretched like he had fell over backwards."

She added that the pub was "very rough".

"There is always something going on around here with police involved."

Another local added: "This place goes from bad to worse. I just wish the police or the government or someone could get a grip of the guns being used."

Another woman who lives in the area told the BBC: "It's terrifying.

"I'm really upset about it because I'm thinking it could have been someone who belongs to me or anybody walking up and down with children.

"I'm totally upset. I just want to cry."

'Very rare'

Superintendent Leor Giladi of Greater Manchester Police said: "We have spoken to an awful lot of people in the pub. It is a frightening experience.

"It is a concern for the community at large but I would like to reassure the community of Salford there will be extra police patrols this evening, extending into tomorrow.

"Shootings as serious as this are very, very rare."

An incident room has been set up at Pendleton Police Station and anyone with information should call 0161 856 5448 or Crimestoppers on 0800 555111.

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Just heard about this on the radio. I feel sorry for the people who live in these areas who could get caught up in it. It's frightening to think how easy it is for these people to get hold of guns.

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It's frightening to think how easy it is for these people to get hold of guns.

2 for 1 in the Salford Tesco at the moment :thumb:

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"Digital Mike Binoche" wrote:

It's frightening to think how easy it is for these people to get hold of guns.

2 for 1 in the Salford Tesco at the moment :thumb:

now that you mention it, i could drive up the road to my local walmart and pick up a loaf of bread, a rifle and some ammo if i wanted.

the saddest thing is that a shooting like this might make the local news in a smaller city but never the national news--it's too common.

the father of the best friend of one of my students (a policeman, would you believe) shot his two sons to death and then turned the gun on himself a few months ago. this was no 'ghetto' shooting, either. they live in the same neighbourhood as tiger woods. and the NRA says guns are meant to protect people in their homes. :nonono:

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Christy

When I was in Orlando, I saw a car with a license plate that was, either;

FAC 51, or; FACT 51

Any clues?

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"Digital Mike Binoche" wrote: Christy

When I was in Orlando, I saw a car with a license plate that was, either;

FAC 51, or; FACT 51

Any clues?

never seen it. it's not mine, though i wish it was!

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never seen it. it's not mine, though i wish it was!

Ok, would have been funny if it was your's.

Off to bed, Night Night :sleep:

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reading this all over bbc.co.uk. so sorry everybody. Brass Handles Pub.

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guns are to quick thats the problem,instant judgement instant justice, replace guns with fish i say,or wet news paper even better. the world would be a better plaice. ill get my coat:lol:

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mike powell wrote:

the world would be a better plaice.

nice one.

i wonder how many people who have taken their lives would be alive today if they didn't have a firearm in their house. as you say, guns are too quick.

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The Brass Handles Pub? I'm sure they filmed the exterior "Russell Club" scenes outside there in 24HRPP,because you can see Pear Tree Court in the background. Scary stuff,the only pub round there I go is the Flat Iron in daytime,but I wouldn't venture there after hours.It's a fucking shame these knobheads ruin Salford,because I've worked on Salford precinct for so many years,and the people are great. There used to be a wealth of good pubs in Salford,that have either folded because they can't meet the extortionate "protection" payments,they're no go places like The Ship because of a constant police presence,or you've got to be BUZZED in through the front door! Methinks I'll be thinking twice about refusing to cash girocheques on precinct tomorrow.

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Beast from Weaste?

bollocks

Snail from Sale :nod: :laugh:

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mike powell wrote: guns are to quick thats the problem,instant judgement instant justice, replace guns with fish i say,or wet news paper even better. the world would be a better plaice. ill get my coat:lol:

well, that, along with your calm, rational and all round level headed comments about astrology and charlat...errr psychics....gets you my vote :D dunno what IN, but u get my vote.

Bush V saddam in the fish slapping dance sounds a lot more civilized if you ask me ;)

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Why do you go to pubs at all? I buy beer or wine and drink it at home at nights :shrug:

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No quite as easy as waltzing into Wal-Mart. ID and Federal background check required for long guns. No felons or domesticate abusers can purchase nor if you care currently awaiting trial for domestic abuse. Hand guns require getting a permit from the local sherrif's department and a 3 day wait.

Imagine how safer the world would be if the same standards were put on alcohol purchases???? Had a public intox? No beer. DUI? No vodka for you. Caught smacking your wife/husband/significant other around? No booze.

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twist wrote: No quite as easy as waltzing into Wal-Mart. ID and Federal background check required for long guns. No felons or domesticate abusers can purchase nor if you care currently awaiting trial for domestic abuse. Hand guns require getting a permit from the local sherrif's department and a 3 day wait.

Well that's how it works in Burkina Faso I guess. Here they require simply your ID.

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If you merely showed an ID and walked out with a gun then you have illegally purchased the gun in the US of A. Federal NICS background check must be completed. Your name, your SSI number and the county of your birth along with other info is phoned to the Federal government to determine your elibility to purchase said firearm. Any red flags will delay or deny the purchase. And this is for rifles according to Federal law. State law may differ, say in Texas you must show your "Don't Mess With Texas" card. Hang gun requirements are more stringent. Some cities do not allow fire arms sales. Chicago comes to mind. San Francisco is possibily banning them.

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|| | ||| 6217|| 8 || 3 wrote: Why do you go to pubs at all? I buy beer or wine and drink it at home at nights :shrug:

errr...

to talk to people :shrug:

and get a fuck or a fight :laugh:

I usually get neither :\ohwell:

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"Digital Mike Binoche" wrote: Christy

When I was in Orlando, I saw a car with a license plate that was, either;

FAC 51, or; FACT 51

Any clues?

I know someone who's registration no is FAC 51, but he lives in San Fransisco.

Do I win £40?

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BIGINOIL wrote:

"Digital Mike Binoche" wrote: Christy

When I was in Orlando, I saw a car with a license plate that was, either;

FAC 51, or; FACT 51

Any clues?

I know someone who's registration no is FAC 51, but he lives in San Fransisco.

Do I win £40?

You WIN £40 Colin for having a REAL friend!:laugh:

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You'd better keep the £40 then, I only know him 'cos he posts here!

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A picture of the pub, from the BBC News Site.

Anyone fancy a pint?

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wow!! a pub shooting. hold the front page. :yawn:

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J.A.K wrote: wow!! a pub shooting. hold the front page. :yawn:

Might be an everyday event in your neck of the woods, but still big news when it happens in sleepy Pendleton Village.

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BIGINOIL wrote:

J.A.K wrote: wow!! a pub shooting. hold the front page. :yawn:

Might be an everyday event in your neck of the woods, but still big news when it happens in sleepy Pendleton Village.

Salford's worse than anywhere!!

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J.A.K wrote: Salford's worse than anywhere!!

Have you spent much time there?

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BIGINOIL wrote:

J.A.K wrote: Salford's worse than anywhere!!

Have you spent much time there?

if he hasn't I have..

I'm not surprised

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I've been into a few very rough pubs after Ballymena United away games, both loyalist & nationalist

I was is the Alexandra Bar in North Belfast a couple of years ago which has been mentioned on the news recently.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern\_ireland/4769084.stm

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coupla times we had cops turn up at our gigs and tell the door staff "we know there's a car load of boys headed down to do a hit on a bar down here but we dunno which one"....inspires confidence I can tell ya. Nowt ever happened tho.

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BIGINOIL wrote:

J.A.K wrote: Salford's worse than anywhere!!

Have you spent much time there?

at least the regulars in my locals aren't armed with shooters! :nod:

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J.A.K wrote:

BIGINOIL wrote:

J.A.K wrote: Salford's worse than anywhere!!

Have you spent much time there?

at least the regulars in my locals aren't armed with shooters! :nod:

You haven't lived, kershie until you've had to slam your drink and run because of the hooded menace.

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Salford's no worse than anywhere else.Can't believe they've not only got the gall to do this in broad daylight,but within three minutes walking distance of Pendleton Police Station.

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Barney Army wrote: Beast from Weaste?

bollocks

Snail from Sale :nod: :laugh:

:laugh: :laugh: Had to put that....either that or put that I'm the W..... from Whitefield.

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u see thats the fing in manchester 2day. well in most of the uk.mixd race n blaks try takin ova but as u seen in salford it aint happenin.it mite ov happend in birmingham but not ere trust.i aint racist n aint got problem with mixd race or blaks but y think u can test wiv us whites? we run this country n not u.since the moss side roits wen they tried takin ova manchester its jus got worse.my brothers an fams are involved wiv guns 24.7 but like me i aint im not into guns i hate the fukin things tho its a buzz wen u shoot.y think u can take ova man it jus aint happenin ere lol they got popd 4 thinkin there sik omg wot on earth do they fink there capable ov? its so easy to get a gun n al u gotta do is ask abowt jus like i cud ask a few ppl i no n most probs av 1 within couple of weeks but i aint like that i fink guns r for people that cant fight wiv the own hands or even a 1 on 1.life ere in manchester is ghetto n i luv it but its sad to hear wot the destruction ov it all.safe yea. peace out xxxxx

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whats an "ov"?

Cnut

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if u dont understand ov means off then ur fukin fik u gimp.u from sum quite ends? sum little village?u cant judge manchester until u been.its not all abowt guns tho it is classd gunchester.but sum places in mcr as nice n quite even wen u got ppl like us roamin round wiv hoods up,an wen they say ppl hu wear hoodies are nuffin but trouble.wot abowt if a 60yr old woman sees a nice hoody n buys it n wears it. is she trouble? naah she aint.dont judge people buy there dress code.n e ways in a bitch u nobs xxxxx

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Off you trot then. Try not to get run over or something.

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wot u prik! ran ova naah m8 i dnt walk.where in mcr u from? faggot u dont no wot ur messin wiv.bad nob go jump

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Can we please have a translator round here?

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ha ha u faggot.am not even gona bover coz wots the point in getn vexd wiv sum geek hu`s been a member on this 4 ages.finkin u can test me.u dont even no wot u messin wiv,meet me at wendova shops if u up 4 it n il show a few people wot u messin wiv u pc freek.go suk ya dad ya swetty tramp jog on

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Snitch u make me snitch, liam ur goin on like a bitch, weva ya poor or ya rich, il leave ya lieing in a ditch, coz like hu the fuk r u, finkin ya can step to my crew, i go to the areas that r ruff, the place that u c enuff, crews hangin out an avin a puff, so watch wen ya step into my end, coz we can tell hu u r by ur trend, we catch ya dont try pretend, u sum g coz u aint nuttin to me

sum old man finkin he`s rude not at all u fukin freek sat on a c all day tlkin bowt news n music.omg u low life get a life.

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twist wrote: No quite as easy as waltzing into Wal-Mart. ID and Federal background check required for long guns. No felons or domesticate abusers can purchase nor if you care currently awaiting trial for domestic abuse. Hand guns require getting a permit from the local sherrif's department and a 3 day wait.

Imagine how safer the world would be if the same standards were put on alcohol purchases???? Had a public intox? No beer. DUI? No vodka for you. Caught smacking your wife/husband/significant other around? No booze.

wow. you've completely missed the point.

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Ban_man_killa wrote: ha ha u faggot.am not even gona bover coz wots the point in getn vexd wiv sum geek hu`s been a member on this 4 ages.finkin u can test me.u dont even no wot u messin wiv,meet me at wendova shops if u up 4 it n il show a few people wot u messin wiv u pc freek.go suk ya dad ya swetty tramp jog on

Wendova?

What does a lad from Wythenshawe know about Salford then?

This is a wind up right?

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Barney Army wrote:

Ban_man_killa wrote: ha ha u faggot.am not even gona bover coz wots the point in getn vexd wiv sum geek hu`s been a member on this 4 ages.finkin u can test me.u dont even no wot u messin wiv,meet me at wendova shops if u up 4 it n il show a few people wot u messin wiv u pc freek.go suk ya dad ya swetty tramp jog on

Wendova?

What does a lad from Wythenshawe know about Salford then?

This is a wind up right?

a northern ali g, perhaps?

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if you google "salford pub shooting" look where you end up.

:rolleyes:

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Read in the MEN today that the men who were killed might've been hired hitmen. Bizarre.

I haven't spent a lot of time in Salford, but I've never had any real problems here. My guy lives near Moss Side and hasn't had any trouble, except for a few blokes getting into a fight in his front garden :\ohwell:

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Barney Army wrote: if you google "salford pub shooting" look where you end up.

:rolleyes:

wow,back here.seems like ive been here before :confused2: maybe thats how 'dat gumbo speakin man' arrived here :laugh:

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Barney Army wrote:

Ban_man_killa wrote: ha ha u faggot.am not even gona bover coz wots the point in getn vexd wiv sum geek hu`s been a member on this 4 ages.finkin u can test me.u dont even no wot u messin wiv,meet me at wendova shops if u up 4 it n il show a few people wot u messin wiv u pc freek.go suk ya dad ya swetty tramp jog on

Wendova?

What does a lad from Wythenshawe know about Salford then?

This is a wind up right?

it surely is. Because even I in my cynical way, could believe that any person could be THIS annoying.

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wow. you've completely missed the point.

What your standard liberal point. Guns are bad? Too easy to get?

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can anyboydy plese tell me what Ban_man_killa is on about. i thought i had a good idea of txt lingo, but this is even beyond my linguistic skills.

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Steve Campbell wrote:

mike powell wrote: guns are to quick thats the problem,instant judgement instant justice, replace guns with fish i say,or wet news paper even better. the world would be a better plaice. ill get my coat:lol:

well, that, along with your calm, rational and all round level headed comments about astrology and charlat...errr psychics....gets you my vote :D dunno what IN, but u get my vote.

Bush V saddam in the fish slapping dance sounds a lot more civilized if you ask me ;)

That would have looked just as funny as the Reagan V Gorbachev(or was it Chernenko?)wrestling match in the FGTH Two Tribes vid.

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