Americans Cursing More
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Comrade Shampanyov, Last Gentleman of the Mohicans wrote:
Emma Peel wrote:
Comrade Shampanyov, Last Gentleman of the Mohicans wrote: After you become a citizen, that is.
oh, of course -- I keep thinking he's already got the papers!
Yeah, you'd think the Germans would have their papers in order.
believe it or not, i was actually never a german citizen. my mother met my father on holidays in spain. it is because of my father that i have american citizenship.
Well, that raises an interesting voting question, then. 
You should definitely be qualified to vote, but I have no idea how you would go about it, since you've never been "domiciled" in a state before. Maybe it's your father's state? 
I'm halfway between being interested enough to go do the research and thinking I can't be arsed...
Comrade Shampanyov, Last Gentleman of the Mohicans wrote: I'm halfway between being interested enough to go do the research and thinking I can't be arsed...
hmmm, just halfway?
Well, I have so much to do today, that I'm hesitant to start a new research project at this moment. Hmmm, maybe 5 minutes of research wouldn't hurt...
Comrade Shampanyov, Last Gentleman of the Mohicans wrote: Well, I have so much to do today, that I'm hesitant to start a new research project at this moment. Hmmm, maybe 5 minutes of research wouldn't hurt...
you're my hero!
Comrade Shampanyov, Last Gentleman of the Mohicans wrote: I'm halfway between being interested enough to go do the research and thinking I can't be arsed...
no rush. btw it is penn state.
Emma Peel wrote: oh yeah, and when you can, please email me back a response to my last email.
I was actually planning to do that tonight! Sorry, but I had almost no internet access while I was away. In the wilds of the Adirondacks; Mohican country and all that, don't you know.
Comrade Shampanyov, Last Gentleman of the Mohicans wrote:
Emma Peel wrote: oh yeah, and when you can, please email me back a response to my last email.
I was actually planning to do that tonight! Sorry, but I had almost no internet access while I was away. In the wilds of the Adirondacks; Mohican country and all that, don't you know.
That's what I figured. Well, as Ron said, no rush. I just wanted to make sure to tag you -- You're it! :)
NOOLigan wrote:
Comrade Shampanyov, Last Gentleman of the Mohicans wrote: I'm halfway between being interested enough to go do the research and thinking I can't be arsed...
no rush. btw it is penn state.
Did you ever live there? Because, as Mrs. Peel so unerringly pointed out,
overseas voters are eligible to register absentee in the jurisdiction of their last residence...
Comrade Shampanyov, Last Gentleman of the Mohicans wrote:
NOOLigan wrote:
Comrade Shampanyov, Last Gentleman of the Mohicans wrote: I'm halfway between being interested enough to go do the research and thinking I can't be arsed...
no rush. btw it is penn state.
Did you ever live there? Because, as Mrs. Peel so unerringly pointed out,
overseas voters are eligible to register absentee in the jurisdiction of their last residence...
Oh, then i lived in Virgina for about a week. 2 nights New York would actually be my last place of residence then. it all depends on the defintion of residence.
It's really about where you're domiciled, I think. That means where you have a residence, go to school, work, shop, etc. Not at all about where you went to meet girls gone wild.
OK, Ronno, I mean NOOLigan, this has been a very cursory search, but...
Here's a link to a Federal Online Absentee ballot. As you can see, you have to indicate where you lived in your state. Here's a link to Pennsylvania's absentee voter page.
Now, since you have American citizenship through your father, it's possible that his residence is/was your domicile. So, for example, if his domicile is/was in Pennsylvania, that would be the state in which you were domiciled. Keep in mind that I'm only guessing at this.
It also occurs to me there may be another problem. If you're also an Australian citizen, you may or may not have lost your American citizenship. From my own personal experience, I know that while it's possible to hold dual citizenship, the U.S. doesn't really accept the idea, and certain acts on your part can be seen as indicating an abandonment of your U.S. citizenship-- for example, serving in another nation's military. I don't know if voting in another nation's elections (Australia), or working for another nation's defense department qualifies as one of those things that the U.S. frowns on.
Your best bet, if you're serious about any of this, would be to talk with an immigration attorney about your citizenship and voting rights.
Comrade Shampanyov, Last Gentleman of the Mohicans wrote: Still looking, NOOLigan...
thanks comrade. no rush this, like it doesn't have to be this week.
Comrade Shampanyov, Last Gentleman of the Mohicans wrote: OK, Ronno, I mean NOOLigan, this has been a very cursory search, but...
Here's a link to a Federal Online Absentee ballot. As you can see, you have to indicate where you lived in your state. Here's a link to Pennsylvania's absentee voter page.
Now, since you have American citizenship through your father, it's possible that his residence is/was your domicile. So, for example, if his domicile is/was in Pennsylvania, that would be the state in which you were domiciled. Keep in mind that I'm only guessing at this.
It also occurs to me there may be another problem. If you're also an Australian citizen, you may or may not have lost your American citizenship. From my own personal experience, I know that while it's possible to hold dual citizenship, the U.S. doesn't really accept the idea, and certain acts on your part can be seen as indicating an abandonment of your U.S. citizenship-- for example, serving in another nation's military. I don't know if voting in another nation's elections (Australia), or working for another nation's defense department qualifies as one of those things that the U.S. frowns on.
Your best bet, if you're serious about any of this, would be to talk with an immigration attorney about your citizenship and voting rights.
Ron, you may also find this information provided by the US Embassy in Tokyo helpful. It provides you with the actual code sections on domicile:
I'm in a rush today, but that is what I could find during my quick search on the Net.
Disclaimer: This is not legal advice. You should consult a proper immigration attorney for that.
Emma
Well, if America has the Jerry Springer Show, South Park, Richard Pryor, and some other good stuff, it's no wonder we curse more.
Comrade Shampanyov, Last Gentleman of the Mohicans wrote: OK, Ronno, I mean NOOLigan, this has been a very cursory search, but...
Here's a link to a Federal Online Absentee ballot. As you can see, you have to indicate where you lived in your state. Here's a link to Pennsylvania's absentee voter page.
Now, since you have American citizenship through your father, it's possible that his residence is/was your domicile. So, for example, if his domicile is/was in Pennsylvania, that would be the state in which you were domiciled. Keep in mind that I'm only guessing at this.
It also occurs to me there may be another problem. If you're also an Australian citizen, you may or may not have lost your American citizenship. From my own personal experience, I know that while it's possible to hold dual citizenship, the U.S. doesn't really accept the idea, and certain acts on your part can be seen as indicating an abandonment of your U.S. citizenship-- for example, serving in another nation's military. I don't know if voting in another nation's elections (Australia), or working for another nation's defense department qualifies as one of those things that the U.S. frowns on.
Your best bet, if you're serious about any of this, would be to talk with an immigration attorney about your citizenship and voting rights.
no, i have a piece of paper saying that even though i took out Australian citizenship that i did not loose my American one. i made sure of that then.
it would just be a matter of finding somewhere to vote, but i guess i don't qualify. as i have never really been a resident.
Emma Peel wrote: About fucking time.
fucking everbody bloody fucking swears more. you should hear me at work some days (just at the computer, or after a really stupid phone call. i get lots of those). p. s. i do it quietly.
just five years ago i never swore at work.
Comrade Shampanyov, Last Gentleman of the Mohicans wrote: OK, Ronno, I mean NOOLigan, this has been a very cursory search, but...
Here's a link to a Federal Online Absentee ballot. As you can see, you have to indicate where you lived in your state. Here's a link to Pennsylvania's absentee voter page.
Now, since you have American citizenship through your father, it's possible that his residence is/was your domicile. So, for example, if his domicile is/was in Pennsylvania, that would be the state in which you were domiciled. Keep in mind that I'm only guessing at this.
It also occurs to me there may be another problem. If you're also an Australian citizen, you may or may not have lost your American citizenship. From my own personal experience, I know that while it's possible to hold dual citizenship, the U.S. doesn't really accept the idea, and certain acts on your part can be seen as indicating an abandonment of your U.S. citizenship-- for example, serving in another nation's military. I don't know if voting in another nation's elections (Australia), or working for another nation's defense department qualifies as one of those things that the U.S. frowns on.
Your best bet, if you're serious about any of this, would be to talk with an immigration attorney about your citizenship and voting rights.
Comrade NOOLigan,
Here's the deal. He has to be under 18 to keep his American citizenship. If you have dual citezenship, it is at 18 that you choose which country you will keep your citezenship. After the age of 18 he has to have a place of residence. If you where born in Spain, then you automatically get your US citezenship to the state your father last paid taxes to. for instance, military move all over the place, but their home of record is where they pay their taxes to. They be stationed in California, but still pay their taxes and vote for local elections to Jersey, if that is their home of record.
Main question at this point is what age are you, and what was your mother's citezenship?
JHC
68 Pontiac wrote:
Comrade Shampanyov, Last Gentleman of the Mohicans wrote: OK, Ronno, I mean NOOLigan, this has been a very cursory search, but...
Here's a link to a Federal Online Absentee ballot. As you can see, you have to indicate where you lived in your state. Here's a link to Pennsylvania's absentee voter page.
Now, since you have American citizenship through your father, it's possible that his residence is/was your domicile. So, for example, if his domicile is/was in Pennsylvania, that would be the state in which you were domiciled. Keep in mind that I'm only guessing at this.
It also occurs to me there may be another problem. If you're also an Australian citizen, you may or may not have lost your American citizenship. From my own personal experience, I know that while it's possible to hold dual citizenship, the U.S. doesn't really accept the idea, and certain acts on your part can be seen as indicating an abandonment of your U.S. citizenship-- for example, serving in another nation's military. I don't know if voting in another nation's elections (Australia), or working for another nation's defense department qualifies as one of those things that the U.S. frowns on.
Your best bet, if you're serious about any of this, would be to talk with an immigration attorney about your citizenship and voting rights.
Comrade NOOLigan,
Here's the deal. He has to be under 18 to keep his American citizenship. If you have dual citezenship, it is at 18 that you choose which country you will keep your citezenship. After the age of 18 he has to have a place of residence. If you where born in Spain, then you automatically get your US citezenship to the state your father last paid taxes to. for instance, military move all over the place, but their home of record is where they pay their taxes to. They be stationed in California, but still pay their taxes and vote for local elections to Jersey, if that is their home of record.
Main question at this point is what age are you, and what was your mother's citezenship?
JHC
thanks. i was over 26 when i became an australian citizen.
when i took it out. i approached our US embassy here, and hence i have a piece of paper stating that even though i natrualised as an Australian, that i did not loose my US citizenship.
i don't see what my mother has to do with it. she was a german citizen.
i am 38 years of age.
NOOLigan wrote:
thanks. i was over 18 when i became an australian citizen.
when i took it out. i approached our US embassy here, and hence i have a piece of paper stating that even though i natrualised as an Australian, that i did not loose my US citizenship.
i don't see what my mother has to do with it. she was a german citizen.
i am 38 years of age.
Reason for your mother, is at birth you automatically had two citezenships. . .your father's (American) and your mother's (German).
Here's a good link to explain:
http://www.uscitizenship.info/uscitizenship-dual-citizen.htm
My post was a bit off with the "18 thing". Was going off my expereince with my children's citezenship. The difference is that with Japan, the "18 year thing" applies, it might not with Australia. Sorry for the confusion.
JHC
68 Pontiac wrote:
NOOLigan wrote:
thanks. i was over 18 when i became an australian citizen.
when i took it out. i approached our US embassy here, and hence i have a piece of paper stating that even though i natrualised as an Australian, that i did not loose my US citizenship.
i don't see what my mother has to do with it. she was a german citizen.
i am 38 years of age.
Reason for your mother, is at birth you automatically had two citezenships. . .your father's (American) and your mother's (German).
Here's a good link to explain:
http://www.uscitizenship.info/uscitizenship-dual-citizen.htm
My post was a bit off with the "18 thing". Was going off my expereince with my children's citezenship. The difference is that with Japan, the "18 year thing" applies, it might not with Australia. Sorry for the confusion.
JHC
as far as i know i was never a german citizen. we got started the process, i even have a letter somewhere stating that there is nothing stopping me becoming a german citizen, but we stopped when it became clear that we were going to emigrate to australia again.
