SO COME ON...

What are you all having in the National? Early pickings for me are Hedge Hunter (i won a ton last year on this) and Clan Royal.

Some Joker in our office gives us a 'tip' for the National every year! Yeah, whatever.

I'll probably end up backing about five horses.

I'm excited already! Although not as excited as i am about seeing Re:Order Sat night - bring it on!

I need more info...what shoe compound are they using, is there a wind, can horses create downforce...can they get a tow from each other?

Actually...you win on this and DON'T get the drinks in you really are the MEANEST woman ever :D

I'll have to lie and pretend i've not won then!

I always get the beers in, i'm a very generous lady doncha know?

Ahem.....far be it from me to publicize a private exchange but....

MJ:"i won on the gee gees" Steve": nice one, drinks are on you then" MJ:"knob off"

such a sweet creature.

Post a link with the runners and riders and i'll pick yer winner Hicksy, I've got form in doing it :D

Dunno how! Every time i try posting links, my works computer manages to mess it up.

Somebody else do it...

don't know yet. usually do a sweep on Saturday

but i'm going tomorrow.

Its "Bill & Danny Day" at Aintree on a Friday.

(love a suzzied up babe in a mad hat) :p

(it always chucks it down when i go though. what's the forecast?)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/other_sports/horse_racing/4849444.stm

Missy Jem wrote: Dunno how! Every time i try posting links, my works computer manages to mess it up.

Somebody else do it...

you don't have to do it with the link button...just good old copy and paste......we can take it from there...tho if you really want to feel smug... paste it in.......

then stick url (inside []'s) in front of it and "/url" also inside []'s after it. Voila you're a webdesigned.

BBC Sport - Runners and Riders

1 42F-51520 ROYAL AUCLAIR 9-11-12 Christian Williams Paul Nicholls Meets Hedgehunter on 9lbs better terms than when runner-up, beaten 14 lengths, last year. Bad stat: No top-weight has won since Red Rum in the 1970s. Rating: 7/10 Odds: 16-1

2 0611-0422 HEDGEHUNTER 10-11-12 Ruby Walsh Willie Mullins IRE Comfortable winner of 2005 race. More weight this time, but impressive when second in the Cheltenham Gold Cup recently. Respected. Rating: 8/10 Odds: 5-1

3 1332-330 CORNISH REBEL 9-11-09 Joe Tizzard Paul Nicholls Brother of triple Gold Cup winner Best Mate. Placed in the Scottish and Welsh Nationals last year. Rating: 6/10 Odds: 20-1

4 330-001 THEREALBANDIT 9-11-09 Richard Johnson Martin Pipe Highly-rated novice before losing his way. Won nicely on last run at Wetherby in December. Trainer took the race with Miinnehoma, owned by comic Freddie Starr, in 1994. Rating: 7/10 Odds: 40-1

5 1042-404 IT TAKES TIME 12-11-07 Timmy Murphy Martin Pipe Time marches on for this 12-year-old. Fourth in 2005 for champion trainer, who has suffered indifferent form this season and looks like losing his title to Paul Nicholls. Rating: 5/10 Odds: 33-1

6 225-5000 LE ROI MIGUEL 8-11-07 Liam Heard Paul Nicholls Along with Le Duc, leased for day by a trio including Pop Idol judge Simon Cowell, who will net £1m for the NSPCC charity should the horse triumph. A good cause, but unlikely to be a winning one. Rating: 6/10 Odds: 50-1

7 1-340253 NATIVE UPMANSHIP 13-11-00 Conor O'Dwyer Arthur Moore IRE Has run with credit at the highest level during a distinguished career. Jockey fresh from Gold Cup success on War of Attrition. Rating: 7/10 Odds: 66-1

8 0210-011 INNOX 10-10-13 Robert Thornton Francois Doumen FR Consistent French horse ran a big race last year before tiring into seventh place. Won Racing Post Chase. A danger if he can last out. Rating: 7/10 Odds: 16-1

9 4P/111-4PP SILVER BIRCH 9-10-12 Sam Thomas Paul Nicholls Looked a Grand National natural when winning the Welsh equivalent in 2004 and claiming the Becher Chase over the National fences. Failed to recapture that form after an injury. Rating: 5/10 Odds: 25-1

10 3112140 WHISPERED SECRET 7-10-12 Rodi Greene Martin Pipe Performed well at a much lower level. It's no secret this is not the main contender in trainer's team. Bad stat: No novice has won the National for nearly 50 years. Rating: 4/10 Odds: 66-1

11 65-04504 RINCE RI 13-10-12 Andrew McNamara Ted Walsh IRE A grand servant who has faced some of the best chasers of recent years. No win for more than three years tells its own story. Rating: 5/10 Odds: 50-1

12 5UU1/60- PUNTAL 10-10-12 Barry Geraghty Martin Pipe Went on to win Betfred Gold Cup after unseating his rider when prominent in National two seasons ago. Returning from injury after 16-month break. Benefits from jockey who won the race on Monty's Pass in 2003. Rating: 5/10 Odds: 50-1

13 111-P020 LORD OF ILLUSION 9-10-11 Jason Maguire Tom George One of the more talented outsiders. Found the competition too hot when down the field in last month's Cheltenham Gold Cup. Rating: 6/10 Odds: 25-1

14 1401F10 EBONY LIGHT 10-10-10 Stephen Craine Ginger McCain Chance based on win in Peter Marsh Chase at Haydock. One of three runners for retiring Aintree training legend Ginger McCain as he seeks a record fifth win. Rating: 7/10 Odds: 33-1

15 2P2-5PUP FIRST GOLD 13-10-10 Richard McGrath Francois Doumen FR Former winner of the King George VI Chase. But that was five years ago, and is no longer the glittering star of previous years. Rating: 6/10 Odds: 66-1

16 12/4C-531 CLAN ROYAL 11-10-10 Tony McCoy Jonjo O'Neill Can it be third time lucky? Second when rider lost his whip near the finish in 2004 and then carried out when travelling well last year. National is one big race missing from champion jockey's CV. Rating: 8/10 Odds: 11-2

17 330-02U LE DUC 7-10-10 Jamie Moore Paul Nicholls Twice placed in other races over the National fences. Runs for champion trainer elect, who is seeking his first win in the Grand National. Rating: 6/10 Odds: 33-1

18 504-6511F SIR OJ 9-10-10 Paul Carberry Noel Meade IRE Won Robin Cook Memorial Gold Cup at Cheltenham in November, but this is nearly two miles further. Jockey landed 1999 National on Bobbyjo, and will be looking to finish ahead of his sister, Nina, who's aboard Forest Gunner.

19 115-UPP FOREST GUNNER 12-10-10 Nina Carberry Richard Ford Twice a winner over the National fences. Fifth when ridden by trainer's wife, Carrie Ford, in 2005 National. This time top Irish amateur Nina Carberry bids to become first woman to ride winner of the big race. Rating: 7/10 Odds: 40-1

20 1-2U0440 JOES EDGE 9-10-10 Davy Russell Ferdy Murphy Winner of last season's Scottish Grand National. Looks like the ground, trip and flat track could suit. Fancied to do well by some shrewd judges. Rating: 8/10 Odds: 25-1

21 22102-FP2 JUVEIGNEUR 9-10-09 Mick Fitzgerald Nicky Henderson Decent performance when second in the William Hill Chase at the Cheltenham Festival. However, fell at the first in the Becher Chase when last trying these fences. Rating: 6/10 Odds: 33-1

22 400-P5000 AMBERLEIGH HOUSE 14-10-09 Graham Lee Ginger McCain Brought Red Rum's trainer his fourth win in the race in 2004. Horse also finished third the year before. Now 14, age looks to be against him. Rating: 6/10 Odds: 50-1

23 113050350 BALLYCASSIDY 10-10-09 Leighton Aspell Peter Bowen Front-runner who often performs with credit, although came down at the second in this race last year. Rating: 5/10 Odds: 50-1

24 10-561511 INCA TRAIL 10-10-09 Brian Harding Ginger McCain Bought by McCain from trainer Paul Nicholls for more than £100,000 just a fortnight before the National. Quirky younger brother to triple Gold Cup winner Best Mate. Rating: 6/10 Odds: 50-1

25 006513 GARVIVONNIAN 11-10-08 Garrett Cotter Ned Mitchell IRE Another interesting contender from a strong Irish raiding party. Won the Becher Chase, sometimes a good guide to this race, over the National fences in November. Could well be involved at the finish. Rating: 8/10 Odds: 25-1

26 1-504B443 NUMBERSIXVALVERDE 10-10-08 Niall Madden Martin Brassil IRE A nightmare for headline writers, named after owner's Portugal holiday home. Won Irish Grand National. Jockey is nicknamed Slippers (his dad's known as 'Boots'). Treading a similar path to previous winners. Rating: 9/10 Odds: 10-1

27 F6/0200-00 IZNOGOUD 10-10-08 Tom Scudamore Martin Pipe Easy to suggest chances are reflected in his name. Did finish 12th in last year's National at odds of 125-1. Rating: 4/10 Odds: 66-1

28 1-3045351 JACK HIGH 11-10-07 David Casey Ted Walsh IRE Talkative trainer won the race with Papillon in 2000. Says his son Ruby's mount, Hedgehunter, is the one to beat, but Jack High was second in the Irish National before winning the Betfred Gold Cup at Sandown. Rating: 8/10 Odds: 20-1

29 2-253615 HAUT DE GAMME 11-10-07 Keith Mercer Ferdy Murphy Boasts decent form over the National fences. Trying marathon trip for first time. Would be a dream victory for rider, who's a local lad. Rating: 8/10 Odds: 20-1

30 416-00P42 NIL DESPERANDUM 9-10-07 Tommy Treacy Frances Crowley IRE Finished sixth in the 2005 National. Would need heavy ground to boost chances. Rating: 6/10 Odds: 40-1

31 16216-P4P BARON WINDRUSH 8-10-07 Carl Llewellyn Nigel Twiston-Davies A dour stayer who may be plugging on at the finish if still standing, albeit some way behind his rivals. Rating: 5/10 Odds: 40-1

32 51P0-624 HEROS COLLONGES 11-10-07 JP McNamara Paul Nicholls Eighth in the race last year when suspicion was the trip may be too far. Looked a similar story when second in this season's Welsh Grand National. Rating: 6/10 Odds: 40-1

33 101PP/-64 TYNEANDTHYNEAGAIN 11-10-07 Peter Buchanan Howard Johnson Trainer will be doing a rain dance as the horse relishes heavy conditions. Won the 2004 Eider Chase before missing all of last season through injury. Rating: 5/10 Odds: 66-1

34 U-2P62SR5 RISK ACCESSOR 11-10-06 Noel Fehily Jonjo O'Neill Only got as far as the second fence in the race last year. Tendency for mistakes makes him a risky proposition. Rating: 5/10 Odds: 66-1

35 P4/14-F1 DIRECT ACCESS 11-10-06 Tony Dobbin Nicky Richards Not run since winning Rehearsal Chase at Newcastle in the autumn. Jockey says it's his best chance since winning the 1995 'Bomb Scare' National on Lord Gyllene. Rating: 7/10 Odds: 28-1

36 235P-255 COLNEL RAYBURN10-10-06 John Cullen Paul Nolan IRE Well fancied for the big race last year and was prominent for much of the race until pulled up after some jumping blunders. Rating: 6/10 Odds: 40-1

37 11P2/-60F5 IRIS ROYAL 10-10-06 Marcus Foley Nicky Henderson Yet to prove he stays three miles, let alone the four-and-a-half mile trip here. Rating: 5/10 Odds: 50-1

38 21411F ROSS COMM 10-10-05 Dominic Elsworth Sue Smith Grey horse ran well before falling six from home last time out in the Hennessy Cognac Gold Cup at Newbury in November. Respected trainer is the wife of former top showjumper Harvey Smith. Rating: 7/10 Odds: 25-1

39 1P5//0PP- SHOTGUN WILLY 12-10-05 Andrew Tinkler Richard Guest Last seen when pulled up in the Midlands National more than a year ago. Trainer rode Red Marauder to victory in the rain-sodden 2001 National. Rating: 5/10 Odds: 100-1

40 P0-0P360 JUST IN DEBT 10-10-04 Alan Dempsey Martin Todhunter Relishes the course - twice placed in the Becher Chase. Appeared to run out of steam, though, when tiring into ninth in last year's National. Rating: 7/10 Odds: 50-1

Sorry Diamond i didn't hear all that. Could you repeat it please?

When is it?

This Saturday think it's 3 pm.

Steve Campbell wrote:

Missy Jem wrote: Dunno how! Every time i try posting links, my works computer manages to mess it up.

Somebody else do it...

you don't have to do it with the link button...just good old copy and paste......we can take it from there...tho if you really want to feel smug... paste it in.......

then stick url (inside []'s) in front of it and "/url" also inside []'s after it. Voila you're a webdesigned.

speak bleedin English Cambo. she's from Bowlton.

Yes we speak English in Bowlton. What do you speak? (Apart from bollocks - obviously)

cheers for that Diamond! must cancel my saturday morning paper now. WTF

Al Jarvis wrote: I've gone for three horse deaths.

You can get it at 12s on betfair at the moment. It's a steal.

Bet it took him ages copying that over - bless him.

for future reference....where you typed "link", type "url", otherwise, sorted.

I wonder what the odds were on Senna twatting the wall at imola 12 years ago.

yer a sick puppy Jarvis :evil2: :D

J.A.K wrote:

speak bleedin English Cambo. she's from Bowlton.

Yes I know, that's why I spoke all growed up like.

if she was from the pool I'd have had to use pictures. (brightly coloured ones and all)

26 1-504B443 NUMBERSIXVALVERDE 10-10-08 Niall Madden Martin Brassil IRE A nightmare for headline writers, named after owner's Portugal holiday home. Won Irish Grand National. Jockey is nicknamed Slippers (his dad's known as 'Boots'). Treading a similar path to previous winners. Rating: 9/10 Odds: 10-1

that's the winning mule.

Don't say that, i'm gonna have to back it now.

Called in pub Sunday and there was a horse running called Obrigado. I'd just met my friends Portuguese boyfriend the night before and then some guys i know in the pub told me they were going golfing in Portugal.

Stuck a fiver on it and it came in at 15-2!!

£42.50 back - nice one!

Steve Campbell wrote:

J.A.K wrote:

speak bleedin English Cambo. she's from Bowlton.

Yes I know, that's why I spoke all growed up like.

if she was from the pool I'd have had to use pictures. (brightly coloured ones and all)

Steve Campbell wrote: 26 1-504B443 NUMBERSIXVALVERDE 10-10-08 Niall Madden Martin Brassil IRE A nightmare for headline writers, named after owner's Portugal holiday home. Won Irish Grand National. Jockey is nicknamed Slippers (his dad's known as 'Boots'). Treading a similar path to previous winners. Rating: 9/10 Odds: 10-1

that's the winning mule.

Spotted this meself. Clan Royal's getting heavily backed though.

Al Jarvis wrote: I've gone for three horse deaths.

You can get it at 12s on betfair at the moment. It's a steal.

Ouch!

OK:

Hedgehunter - WIN It Takes Time - EACH WAY Clan Royal - WIN Numbersixvalverde - EACH WAY Iris Royal - EACH WAY

Now i've got to decide how much on each. Hard work this gambling lark innit?

I fancy the one that Freddie Starr used to own.

I don't think it will win, I just think it's got a nice arse.

[black]Diamond[/black] wrote: I fancy the one that Freddie Starr used to own.

I don't think it will win, I just think it's got a nice arse.

there's websites for people like you.

... yes, and here we are!

Missy Jem wrote: ... yes, and here we are!

I can assure you I have never letched at a hourse. lady penelope and wilma flintstone yes, but horses, no.

I did a NOOL sweepstake last year and Rocket won.

No prizes, it was just a biddov fun.

It's the National, anything could happen, you've got to be an amateur! Racing knowledge doesn't really cut it with this race.

What's the point in doing other types of bets if only 2 finish it and that's a possibility doncha think! I do use other forms of betting otherwise!

Shat aaap!

Objection!!

the thread title looked interesting..

but it's about fuckin horse racing

Bookies Race..Small stakes is wise for a bit of fun.The bookies will be chocca with one bet a yearers ,and the bookies clean up as per..Owt can happen.Might be a good idea to bet on number of deaths in such a cruel inhumane race..I would ban the race from the calender because it is so nasty on the animals..Tho horse racing in general is a passion of mine,and horses love to run,they simply would'nt race if they did'nt.The Grand National is torture on them.

Did you think it was another Gary Glitter thread?

ok, I just pulled out 'Le Roi Miguel' in the work sweepstake.

how many legs does this donkey have?

Same as every horse.

Missy Jem wrote: It's the National, anything could happen,

Look at these names 1/2 the fun. THEREALBANDIT Rating- 7/10. Odds- 40-1. Highly rated novice.

INNOX Rating 7/10. Odds 16-1. TYNEANDTYNEAGAIN. Rating-5/10 . Odds- 66-1.

Clan Royal 6.8 Haut de Gamme 44

You gotta have a favourite and a long shot - both on the nose, of course

Backing a french horse to win or to die? Steaks all round

Might put a bit on Hegehunter, just to cover myself.

Heavy horse though - much heavier than it's winning weight.

Perhaps they're fattening it up for the Kollman victory banquet.

numbersixtyverdi - win direct access - each way

lesley anne down taken from behind. o and the wanker to come with a late run

fancy dusty carpet it's never been beaten., but seriously JOES EDGE EW . the girlfreind once had all four places one year. lucky mare.