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I heard something on the radio at the weekend that made me think. Someone suggested that the definition of love was that if you love someone, you don't want to change them. You love them just the way they are.
While it might not be the whole answer, it's certainly something to consider.
What do you think?
PS - £40 to the first person to spot the tenuous New Order reference in the subject of this thread!
As the great philosopher Howard Jones said...
What is lo-o-o-o-o-o-ove anyway? Does anybody love anybody anyway?
So there you have it, love doesn't exist.
[magenta]Missy Jem[/magenta] wrote: As the great philosopher Howard Jones said...
What is lo-o-o-o-o-o-ove anyway? Does anybody love anybody anyway?
So there you have it, love doesn't exist.
Bit cynical Jem!
Course it does
I know,you know,we believe in the land of love........
Do I win £40?
I'll take the equivalent in drugs
Auntie May, if I was going to quote New Order, I would at least do it correctly.
The reference is a lot more obscure that that. So obscure that perhaps only Rocket Mick will get it!
Boatraceface wrote:
[magenta]Missy Jem[/magenta] wrote: As the great philosopher Howard Jones said...
What is lo-o-o-o-o-o-ove anyway? Does anybody love anybody anyway?
So there you have it, love doesn't exist.
Bit cynical Jem! Course it does
Just wanted to get a Howard Jones line in. I have loved and been loved, so i know it exists
Aunty May wrote: thieves LIKE US
I want my 40 quid!!!
Nope, Mrs Merton (aka Caroline Aherne - ex-wife of Hooky)! :)
Nick King wrote: Coincidently, I've just been listening to Mrs Merton on my iPod! Do I win 40 quid?
Nick King wrote:
Aunty May wrote: thieves LIKE US
I want my 40 quid!!!
Nope, Mrs Merton (aka Caroline Aherne - ex-wife of Hooky)! :)
Is she the one from the Royals (or whatever you spell it) tv show?
[magenta]Missy Jem[/magenta] wrote:
Boatraceface wrote:
[magenta]Missy Jem[/magenta] wrote: As the great philosopher Howard Jones said...
What is lo-o-o-o-o-o-ove anyway? Does anybody love anybody anyway?
So there you have it, love doesn't exist.
Bit cynical Jem! Course it does
Just wanted to get a Howard Jones line in. I have loved and been loved, so i know it exists
Better to have loved and lost than to never have loved at all they say.....
Bollocks old saying I'd say....I lost the love of my life at 18 years old...Childhood sweethearts we were.It was in no way better than anything at all.Just gutting in everyway! Puppy love she called it..Which made it even worse:( It would have been better not to have loved and lost,and remained the ungutted, happy go lucky lad I was before her!
Mrs Merton (played by Caroline Aherne) had her own show, called the Mrs Merton Show. One of her catchphrases was 'Let's have a heated debate'. The house band was called Hooky and the Boys and featured Peter Hook, who she was married to at the time.
Now: when you love someone, you don't want to change them. Fair point?
And what about the other way around: if you don't want someone to change, does that mean you love them???
Aunty May wrote:
Nick King wrote:
Aunty May wrote: thieves LIKE US
I want my 40 quid!!!
Nope, Mrs Merton (aka Caroline Aherne - ex-wife of Hooky)! :)
Is she the one from the Royals (or whatever you spell it) tv show?
Yup!
if you really love somebody, you rally care about them. making suggestions how they can improve themselves just shows how much they care. it can just get very annoying sometimes and result in nagging.
it is the same way with mothers and their kids. mums love their kids so much, they care about them and want them to better themselves. nobody is perfect.
if you don't care about somebody you let them be.
it is best of course to have a partner who is perfect. that will never happen. thus a few faults will just have to be accepted.
Good point, Ron.
There's a difference between wanting someone to change for selfish reasons and thinking that someone should change for their own good?
Is it possible to confuse the two?
A Diamond a Dozen wrote: Good point, Ron.
There's a difference between wanting someone to change for selfish reasons and thinking that someone should change for their own good?
Is it possible to confuse the two?
indeed. if desired change is too much then the relationship is doomed and no amount of nagging will help.
the desired change should always be for the other person's good and not for selfish reasons, such as how good will he/she make me look with my friends if only he/she got a better job, got a bigger car etc.
A Diamond a Dozen wrote: Auntie May, if I was going to quote New Order, I would at least do it correctly.
The reference is a lot more obscure that that. So obscure that perhaps only Rocket Mick will get it!
Turn the HEATER ON!
A Diamond a Dozen wrote: I don't want to change you Mick!
You won't have to! Mick's grown out of nappies now!
Baby don't hurt me...no more 
Now I'm gonna have that damn song stuck in my head all day...thanks 
Smurfy wrote: Self love - that's the answer.
do you use Duracell or everready, and how many attachments has it got?
J.A.K wrote:
Smurfy wrote: Self love - that's the answer.
do you use Duracell or everready, and how many attachments has it got?
Her's is a custom jobber...uses a small nuclear reactor, so no need to change the fuel rods for 1400 years or so....no batteries needed!
J.A.K wrote:
Smurfy wrote: Self love - that's the answer.
do you use Duracell or everready, and how many attachments has it got?
Wanna compare then??
Jeffari-al-Texani wrote:
J.A.K wrote:
Smurfy wrote: Self love - that's the answer.
do you use Duracell or everready, and how many attachments has it got?
Her's is a custom jobber...uses a small nuclear reactor, so no need to change the fuel rods for 1400 years or so....no batteries needed!
Oh my god, with the cash saved I could afford an eight bed mansion with swimming pool, a personal trainer and a gaggle of male playmates.
My TV remote just gets too much useage! 
Watching Henry, glide across the pitch........., and score a screamer of a goal, and when it's against, say Spurs, it's a mulitple feeling........
No?:\ohwell:
Don't flipping know then.
Bonzette wrote: Watching Henry, glide across the pitch........., and score a screamer of a goal, and when it's against, say Spurs, it's a mulitple feeling........
No?:\ohwell:
Don't flipping know then.
Blimey, with all that sliding scoring and screaming, you'd need a little lie down 
Smurfy wrote:
Bonzette wrote: Watching Henry, glide across the pitch........., and score a screamer of a goal, and when it's against, say Spurs, it's a mulitple feeling........
No?:\ohwell:
Don't flipping know then.
I think the suns gone to my head - or other places today! 
Well, we came close to not having this debate at all, if this had been a few thousand miles closer:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060703/ap_on_sc/asteroid_encounter
Who needs a drink? :beer2:
Smurfy wrote:
Bonzette wrote: Watching Henry, glide across the pitch........., and score a screamer of a goal, and when it's against, say Spurs, it's a mulitple feeling........
No?:\ohwell:
Don't flipping know then.
Gliding, dear- not sliding! Huge difference!
We've done this quite recently.
And I'll stick by my original response.
"A word you use 0.17 secs before ejaculation."
El Jarvo wrote: We've done this quite recently.
And I'll stick by my original response.
"A word you use 0.17 secs before ejaculation."
Wow!!!! Amazed you find the time to squeeze that in!
Bonzette wrote:
El Jarvo wrote: We've done this quite recently.
And I'll stick by my original response.
"A word you use 0.17 secs before ejaculation."
Wow!!!! Amazed you find the time to squeeze that in!
Now, now, I still remember what word your fella said that he used! 
Bonzette wrote:
El Jarvo wrote: We've done this quite recently.
And I'll stick by my original response.
"A word you use 0.17 secs before ejaculation."
Wow!!!! Amazed you find the time to squeeze that in!
Mikkel Wartooth wrote: Love is a Short Term Hormonal Imbalance
This is indeed true according to the latest brain scan/chemical analysis/*thingy-ma-jigs;
Although only temporary the changes that happen in your brain are similar to those of someone who is a *fruit loop.
The evolutionary theory is that you are blinded to any faults that person may have for long enough that you either get them *up the duff or you *get up the duff. Or alternatively and nicer, that you are with them until you form a long lasting bond ie friendship/partnership.
*Please forgive the highly technical nature of this post.:p
I forgive you because, although technical in nature, it is not bollocks.
I'm BIGINOIL and approve this of post
When love someone they don't make you lick the dirty place for ages before they let you put your man in, eh?
Bitches, they love it
NOOLigan wrote:
A Diamond a Dozen wrote: Good point, Ron.
There's a difference between wanting someone to change for selfish reasons and thinking that someone should change for their own good?
Is it possible to confuse the two?
indeed. if desired change is too much then the relationship is doomed and no amount of nagging will help.
the desired change should always be for the other person's good and not for selfish reasons, such as how good will he/she make me look with my friends if only he/she got a better job, got a bigger car etc.
Agree.
My point of veiw of marriage (in essance the defining moment of love) is that a good husband protects his wife from the "bad" parts of herself; a good wife protects her husband from the "bad" parts from himself.
JHC
Bonzette wrote: Watching Henry, glide across the pitch........., and score a screamer of a goal, and when it's against, say Spurs, it's a mulitple feeling........
No?:\ohwell:
Not even close.......unless it's against Brazil
I have been dying to reply on this thread. Love is unconditional and is what you need. I'm glad I have finally found it. 
[magenta]shedmonite61[/magenta] wrote: I have been dying to reply on this thread. Love is unconditional and is what you need. I'm glad I have finally found it.
Expect a creepy reply from Comrade Shampanyov within the hour :D
Tabbsy, I have been waiting to say this to you: Quit moping, and start looking. Live life, Tabbsy, live life.
[magenta]shedmonite61[/magenta] wrote: Tabbsy, I have been waiting to say this to you: Quit moping, and start looking. Live life, Tabbsy, live life.
How in the hell did this become about me?
I'm okay
Taboo # 7 wrote:
[magenta]shedmonite61[/magenta] wrote: Tabbsy, I have been waiting to say this to you: Quit moping, and start looking. Live life, Tabbsy, live life.
How in the hell did this become about me?
I'm okay
Tabbsy, are you really fine. From the writings in the blogs it seems that you're hopelessly in love, but handling the wrong way. A few months ago, I have read (either in your blogs or BCD) that you have problems with your low self-esteem. Tabbsy, you are a grown man. Take a risk to find your soulmate. I'm glad I did.
