[brown]Ally[/brown] wrote:
Sequels aside, can anyone name a remake that was truly better than the original effort?
not read all through the thread, but has anyone mentioned the thing (john carpenter's remake) or the little shop of horrors?
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Taboo # 7 wrote: The Passion of the Christ 2: Die Harder
This time...it's personal
if i though they could make Jesus die harder than he did in the first one i would go see it
hibster wrote:
[brown]Ally[/brown] wrote:
Sequels aside, can anyone name a remake that was truly better than the original effort?
not read all through the thread, but has anyone mentioned the thing (john carpenter's remake) or the little shop of horrors?
i never saw the Original Thing, but carpenters version is one of my all time favorite films!
[brown]Ally[/brown] wrote: Sequels aside, can anyone name a remake that was truly better than the original effort?
Have you seen Heat? Its a re-make.
[brown]Ally[/brown] wrote: As a rule, sequels and remakes are always always shite next to the originals. Recent sequel exceptions would be Batman Begins and Superman Returns but even then I doubt they'll be looked back on as all-time great movies. Superman Returns was about half an hour too long as well.
Sequels aside, can anyone name a remake that was truly better than the original effort?
I'd like to see Hollywood come up with some new ideas instead of rehashing old franchises for a quick buck. There's fcuk all originality left in the "big" movie business, just calculating money-making bastards like Joel Schumacher scamming parents out of cash.
The Quiet American. The remake with Brandon Fraser and Michale Caine is better than the orignal, IMHO, and more faithful to the book (so I've heard, I've not read the book).
Shellshocker wrote:
[brown]Ally[/brown] wrote: As a rule, sequels and remakes are always always shite next to the originals. Recent sequel exceptions would be Batman Begins and Superman Returns but even then I doubt they'll be looked back on as all-time great movies. Superman Returns was about half an hour too long as well.
Sequels aside, can anyone name a remake that was truly better than the original effort?
I'd like to see Hollywood come up with some new ideas instead of rehashing old franchises for a quick buck. There's fcuk all originality left in the "big" movie business, just calculating money-making bastards like Joel Schumacher scamming parents out of cash.
The Quiet American. The remake with Brandon Fraser and Michale Caine is better than the orignal, IMHO, and more faithful to the book (so I've heard, I've not read the book).
Same with The End of the Affair.
I'm just hoping for one thing: Family Matters: The Movie :p
Possible poster blurbs:
"This time, Urkel gets his wish..."
"See the Winslows...in space"
"In a world where one nerd reigned supreme, one Chicacgo cop emerged from the streets to take back the night from this evil genius and his suave alter-ego"
Taboo # 7 wrote: I'm just hoping for one thing: Family Matters: The Movie :p
Possible poster blurbs:
"This time, Urkel gets his wish..."
"See the Winslows...in space"
"In a world where one nerd reigned supreme, one Chicacgo cop emerged from the streets to take back the night from this evil genius and his suave alter-ego"
That is, if anyone actually remembers that TV show or old TGIF.
I wouldn`t mind a sequel to Ferris Buellers Day Off. Either with him as the father or as him taking a day off work.
This blue-eyed boy that wants to be wrote:
FrogChorus wrote: A remake of 24 Hr Party People
With Tony Wilson playing himself?
with steve coogan playing all the roles himself
[brown]Ally[/brown] wrote:
Sequels aside, can anyone name a remake that was truly better than the original effort?
oceans eleven. by far. i also preferred the grudge to ju-on.
FrogChorus wrote: BTTF>BTTF 2>BTTF 3
Saying the third one is better than the second one is as bad as saying that Temple of Doom is better than The Last Crusade and Raiders Of The Lost Ark! :D
Was there a British version of BTTF 2 that was much better than the American version. Anyway, they're both piles of crap compared to the original.
Taboo # 7 wrote: I think Spider-Man 2 went above and beyond the first one, if only because you got the whole messy "origin" story out of the way and could show that when the credits roll, there's still the situation of a young man cursed or blessed with extraordinary powers and forced to live with it somehow. Kinda like me :p
Has anyone seen the Demi Moore version of The Scarlet Letter, by chance? I saw that in a class one time, and it totally does a number on the novel. There's even a standard action-movie style ending. So it just goes to show that Hollywood doesn't necessarily have to ruin an old movie, it can also ruin an old piece of literature just fine if you give it a chance.
Oh, and while technically not a "sequel" so much as a continuation....I have to cite my old chestnut The Empire Strikes Back. Vader is the ultimate badass in that one, and it's totally the antithesis of the kid-friendly predecessor
I know I'm in the minority, but I liked Spidey 1 better than 2. I agree with Empire though. I was always a Star Wars backer, but the more I think about it, the more I think Empire was the better movie. Jedi could've been much better withot the Ewoks! 
I'll have to check out that Demi Moore Scarlet Letter. 
Shellshocker wrote: Jedi could've been much better withot the Ewoks!
i was eight when return of the jedi was released, therefore i was required by law to love their adorable little furry faces. still do.
AgentWood wrote:
Shellshocker wrote: Jedi could've been much better withot the Ewoks!
i was eight when return of the jedi was released, therefore i was required by law to love their adorable little furry faces. still do.
Yes, those furry little misfits were put in so Lucas could sell more merchandise to snot nosed little kids like yourself.
I'd heard that Lucas's original idea was the the battle would take place on Chewie's home planet, with wookeis instead of ewoks, but when the time came around, the wookies, via Chewie, had become too sophisticated. Lucas wanted a tribe of primitives to help defeat the empire, so he invented the ewoks. Grrr...
[brown]Ally[/brown] wrote:
Sequels aside, can anyone name a remake that was truly better than the original effort?
The Fly? I'm a bit of a Cronenberg fan though, so I'm somewhat biased.
Smarra[gold]dona wrote: ahh easy one that was overlooked, Empire was better than Star Wars
yes, but can be argued that it wasn't a sequel, but a continuation, as with Godfather part 2, which is sometimes viewed as superior to the first one.
Ok, so we can't agree on the BTTF films, but Terminator 2 pisses on the other 2...right?!
FrogChorus wrote:
Ok, so we can't agree on the BTTF films, but Terminator 2 pisses on the other 2...right?!
Oh Hell yeah!
FrogChorus wrote:
Smarra[gold]dona wrote: ahh easy one that was overlooked, Empire was better than Star Wars
yes, but can be argued that it wasn't a sequel, but a continuation, as with Godfather part 2, which is sometimes viewed as superior to the first one.
Ok, so we can't agree on the BTTF films, but Terminator 2 pisses on the other 2...right?!
isnt a sequal usually a contuniation? look at friday the 13th, they continue the story. well at least some of them do
and isnt terminator 2 a continuation? i know its picked up years later, but empire wasn't set on the day after star wars
Smarra[gold]dona wrote:
FrogChorus wrote:
Smarra[gold]dona wrote: ahh easy one that was overlooked, Empire was better than Star Wars
yes, but can be argued that it wasn't a sequel, but a continuation, as with Godfather part 2, which is sometimes viewed as superior to the first one.
Ok, so we can't agree on the BTTF films, but Terminator 2 pisses on the other 2...right?!
isnt a sequal usually a contuniation? look at friday the 13th, they continue the story. well at least some of them do
and isnt terminator 2 a continuation? i know its picked up years later, but empire wasn't set on the day after star wars
Yes, but Lucas originally planned to release one film, but it was so large he had to split it up into 3. 
I don't think it's classed as a sequel most of the time
Smarra[gold]dona wrote: ahh easy one that was overlooked, Empire was better than Star Wars
Taboo mentioned it, then also said it was more of a continuation than a true sequel.
patrick stewart appreciation society wrote:
FrogChorus wrote:
Ok, so we can't agree on the BTTF films, but Terminator 2 pisses on the other 2...right?!
Oh Hell yeah!
The first Terminator was the best movie. The other 2 were just special effects Extravaganzas. T2 was good though. T3 was mediocre, IMHO.
On the Sequal front, i'm looking forward to the next installment in the Bourne franchise.
But i think they should stop with the Star Trek movies now.
patrick stewart appreciation society wrote: On the Sequal front, i'm looking forward to the next installment in the Bourne franchise.
But i think they should stop with the Star Trek movies now.
I agree with both, especially the Bourne thing. However, I don't think the Bourne book it's based on got very good reviews, so who knows if it'll be good or not.
i dunno, all i do know is that there are 3 books so hopefully they'll have the sense to keep it as a Trilogy, but knowing hollywood, if its a success like the last two a forth can't be far away.
