Rap "Music"

Fucking shit the lot of it.

Some slut has got Galaxy 102 on at work. its driving me insane.

I'd rather listen to fucking Pearl Jam, Snow Patrol, The Magic Number and Razorshite and the same time on a continuous loop than listen to this shite.

Go, go, go, go Go, go, go shawty It's your birthday We gon' party like it's yo birthday We gon' sip Bacardi like it's your birthday And you know we don't give a fuck It's not your birthday!

You can find me in the club, bottle full of bub Look mami I got the X if you into taking drugs I'm into having sex, I ain't into making love So come give me a hug if you into getting rubbed

[Verse] When I pull out up front, you see the Benz on dubs When I roll 20 deep, it's 20 knives in the club Niggas heard I fuck with Dre, now they wanna show me love When you sell like Eminem, and the hoes they wanna fuck But homie ain't nothing change hold down, G's up I see Xzibit in the Cutt that nigga roll that weed up If you watch how I move you'll mistake me for a playa or pimp Been hit wit a few shells but I dont walk wit a limp In the hood then the ladies saying "50 you hot" They like me, I want them to love me like they love 'Pac But holla in New York them niggas'll tell ya im loco And the plan is to put the rap game in a choke hold I'm feelin' focused man, my money on my mind I got a mill out the deal and I'm still on the grind Now shawty said she feeling my style, she feeling my flow Her girlfriend wanna get bi and they ready to go

[Bridge] My flow, my show brought me the doe That bought me all my fancy things My crib, my cars, my pools, my jewels Look nigga i done came up and i ain't change.

[Verse] And you should love it, way more then you hate it Nigga you mad? I thought that you'd be happy I made it I'm that cat by the bar toasting to the good life You that faggot ass nigga trying to pull me back right? When my junk get to pumpin in the club it's on I wink my eye at ya bitch, if she smiles she gone If the roof on fire, let the motherfucker burn If you talking bout money homie, I ain't concerned I'm a tell you what Banks told me cause go 'head switch the style up If the niggas hate then let 'em hate Watch the money pile up Or we go upside there wit a bottle of bub You know where we fucking be

[Laughing] Don't try to act like you ain't know where we been either nigga In the club all the time nigga, its about to pop off nigga

Although much prefer The Game.

And can't forget my main playa Tupac.

and what happenned to him? he got killed. he ran his mouth off for years and then somebody shot him.

He deserved it. Couldnt have happened a a more appropriate person.

Although saying that, there is no way 2Punk is dead. How can he be, he is one of the most prolific 'artists' in the world.

Uncle Liam wrote: Fucking shit the lot of it.

Some slut has got Galaxy 102 on at work. its driving me insane.

I'd rather listen to fucking Pearl Jam, Snow Patrol, The Magic Number and Razorshite and the same time on a continuous loop than listen to this shite.

Are you sure she's not just trying to annoy some wanker she works with?

Uncle Liam wrote: and what happenned to him? he got killed. he ran his mouth off for years and then somebody shot him.

He deserved it. Couldnt have happened a a more appropriate person.

You want it to happen to you as well?????

And it looks like there's another beef coming up, homies.

Bonzette wrote:

Uncle Liam wrote: Fucking shit the lot of it.

Some slut has got Galaxy 102 on at work. its driving me insane.

I'd rather listen to fucking Pearl Jam, Snow Patrol, The Magic Number and Razorshite and the same time on a continuous loop than listen to this shite.

Are you sure she's not just trying to annoy some wanker she works with?

Believe it or not, i'm actually quite popular in the office.

Bonzette wrote:

Uncle Liam wrote: Fucking shit the lot of it.

Some slut has got Galaxy 102 on at work. its driving me insane.

I'd rather listen to fucking Pearl Jam, Snow Patrol, The Magic Number and Razorshite and the same time on a continuous loop than listen to this shite.

Are you sure she's not just trying to annoy some wanker she works with?

Christopher Owens wrote: And can't forget my main playa Tupac.

You seem to be favoring the West Coast rappers. Don't tell me I'm gonna have to bust a cap in yo ass!

Cant beat a bit of Grandmaster Flash, NWA and the Wu Tang Clan

WESTSIDE!

You never heard "It'd Take a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back", Liam?

Best record of the last 20 years, IMHO.

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(The Good Doctor) Martin Fradley wrote: You never heard "It'd Take a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back", Liam?

Best record of the last 20 years, IMHO.

Prefer 'Fear of a Black Planet' myself.

And Shellshocker, bring it on

Christopher Owens wrote:

(The Good Doctor) Martin Fradley wrote: You never heard "It'd Take a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back", Liam?

Best record of the last 20 years, IMHO.

Prefer 'Fear of a Black Planet' myself.

And Shellshocker, bring it on

LOL

2Pac, Dr. Dre, LL Cool J, NWA, Snoop Dogg, Cooliom and Jurrasic 5 v Public Enemy, Notorious BIG, KRS-One, Puff Daddy, 50 Cent. Grandmaster Flash, Afrika Bambataa, Run DMC, De La Soul, A Tribe Called Quest, Jay-z, Wu Tang Clan, and Mystical. A Tough call, I'll grant you. I have a soft spot for 2Pac and NWA, but I'll still take my East Coast Boyz!

De La Soul were ok, in a happy, fun kinda hip hoppery way.

FIVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!

that's the magic number.

yes it is

it is.

its the magic number

(five times Hoopers and Mancs. )

Liam, aren't you glad you started this wonderful discussion on rap "music"? :)

do do do de do

Wiiiilddd thing.

do do do de do.

J.A.K wrote: De La Soul were ok, in a happy, fun kinda hip hoppery way.

FIVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!

that's the magic number.

yes it is

it is.

its the magic number

GET ME A VICAR!!!!!!

(or in yank speak, A southern Baptist Preacher Man)

You'll have Leather Girl on complaining.

And the US Court onto you as well.

i'm in the mood now brothers and sisters.

just poppin home to put a white headband on, and a big gold-gun neck chain.

Yo!!

J.A.K wrote: i'm in the mood now brothers and sisters.

just poppin home to put a white headband on, and a big gold-gun neck chain.

Yo!!

Correct rap music is a bag of shite.BUT as with all types of music there is always one exception to the rule.Step forward Run DMC

everyone to the

ANFIELD RAP

Alright AldoSound as a poundI'm cushty la but there's nothing downThe rest of the lads ain't got it sussedWe'll have to learn 'em to talk like usWell I'm rapping now, I'm rapping for funI'm your goalie, the number oneYou can take the mick, don't call me a clownAny more lip and you're going downAlright Ace, we're great me and youBut the other lads don't talk like we doNo they don't talk like we do, do they do laWe'll have to learn 'em to talk propah Walk on… walk on… with hope… in your heart… and you'll ne… ver walk… alone

John Barnes'll show you some 'serious rappin'

the lads next door to me invite about 10 people round and do ALL that RAP/MC shite all weekend.

bansheeman wrote: the lads next door to me invite about 10 people round and do ALL that RAP/MC shite all weekend.

I'd have to kill them.

I can't stand noisy neighbours.

I think 20-15 yrs ago Rap music was good, and inventive, now its just the same shit rehashed with a different sample.

J.A.K wrote:

bansheeman wrote: the lads next door to me invite about 10 people round and do ALL that RAP/MC shite all weekend.

I'd have to kill them.

I can't stand noisy neighbours.

Me too! Worse than terrorists!

(The Good Doctor) Martin Fradley wrote: You never heard "It**'d** Take a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back", Liam?

Best record of the last 20 years, IMHO.

was that before or after "It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold us Back" (1988)? & Liam's clearly just trying to get a rise - you cannot dismiss a whole genre of music out of hand - it's far too much of a generalisation.

patrick stewart appreciation society wrote: I think 20-15 yrs ago Rap music was good, and inventive, now its just the same shit rehashed with a different sample.

Largely true, and may of them are ripping off (i.e., sampling) 70's and 80's tunes.

Shellshocker wrote:

patrick stewart appreciation society wrote: I think 20-15 yrs ago Rap music was good, and inventive, now its just the same shit rehashed with a different sample.

Largely true, and may of them are ripping off (i.e., sampling) 70's and 80's tunes.

But remember, the likes of grandmaster flash and afrika bambaata used samples themselves, though it was 'original' and inventive then. now its done because no-one has the talent to think of something semi-original and half-decent

Papa Bendi wrote:

Shellshocker wrote:

patrick stewart appreciation society wrote: I think 20-15 yrs ago Rap music was good, and inventive, now its just the same shit rehashed with a different sample.

Largely true, and may of them are ripping off (i.e., sampling) 70's and 80's tunes.

But remember, the likes of grandmaster flash and afrika bambaata used samples themselves, though it was 'original' and inventive then. now its done because no-one has the talent to think of something semi-original and half-decent

True, but at least it wasn't a straight ripoff. It seems to me that a lot of songs now use almost the exact same music, but with different lyrics. It was more subtle back in the day.

What bugs me is how materialistic it is...

Da bling, i got Gucci this, I got a Benz, A Rolly...

So basically, they're top shit cos they have money? Er no, and i've never seen a rapper yet who dresses well, money don't buy taste bro :\ohwell:

Rap music is a bit pants,and Radio 1 plays far too much of it at the moment..

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Both shite if you ask me.

But not nearly as shite as:

"Bitch Bitch, Nigga Nigga, Bitch Bitch, Nigga Nigga" and all that shite.

Uncle Liam wrote: Fucking shit the lot of it.

Some slut has got Galaxy 102 on at work. its driving me insane.

I'd rather listen to fucking Pearl Jam, Snow Patrol, The Magic Number and Razorshite and the same time on a continuous loop than listen to this shite.

I know exactly what you mean. It’s never really bothered me much until the guy at work started playing rap music on his pc. I tried to be nice at first so I asked him politely to turn it down cause it was making me lose my concentration. He would turn it down a bit then but for some unknown reason, he never really wanted to know about earphones. But it’s never lasted too long and I got bored of turning his shite music down for him so I had to officially tell him to turn that shit off cause it was only making me nervous. Funny that. Other people in the office sometimes play their music loud too but it never gets on my nerves. I just cannot stand that “gangsta/nigga” talk and I find it very annoying. Poo! But one things worse was that creepy sound coming out of his plastic computer speakers and the fact that he has 50 cent as his wallpaper. Arrrrgggghhhhhhh

Uncle Liam wrote:

"Bitch Bitch, Nigga Nigga, Bitch Bitch, Nigga Nigga"

Barney, if you're reading this, please incorporate these lyrics into a NO tune at some point.

Uncle Liam wrote: Both shite if you ask me.

But not nearly as shite as:

"Bitch Bitch, Nigga Nigga, Bitch Bitch, Nigga Nigga" and all that shite.

Can't see that it's any more or less shite than:

"Some slut has got Galaxy 102 on at work"

Uncle Liam wrote: Both shite

"It takes a nation of millions...." and "Fear of a Black Planet" are genuinely good records. PE were for a while outstanding. Now though, rap has a silent C in front of it. Fucking MTV is to blame, like it is for all these knobcheese Emo kids and Slipknot grunge bastards with chains and greasy fucking hair and pierced faces. Twats. Grrrrr.

It seems this music is only for the moment. It gets forgotten a couple months after it's been released.

What's really6 sad is that many of the sampling, or stright-ripping off songs isn't realized by the younger gen. They actually believe that the rapper came up with the tunes. It's amazingly stupid crap.

JHC

EdelBrock wrote: It seems this music is only for the moment. It gets forgotten a couple months after it's been released.

What's really6 sad is that many of the sampling, or stright-ripping off songs isn't realized by the younger gen. They actually believe that the rapper came up with the tunes. It's amazingly stupid crap.

JHC

Pal, you are scraping new lows (even for you) with that signature. I suggest you remove it, not least because 'marines and their rifles' have in recent years proven to be no match for an angry Arab with a car full of explosives. BOOM.

Current number of US military personnel who have died in Iraq: 2661.

Number of estimated Iraqi civilians & security forces who have died in August 2006 alone: 1203

Now that's amazingly stupid crap.

EdelBrock wrote: What's really6 sad is that many of the sampling, or stright-ripping off songs isn't realized by the younger gen. They actually believe that the rapper came up with the tunes. It's amazingly stupid crap. JHC

Yes, to me that is the saddest part. That the kids don't realize it's NOT new music!

Liam is like some kid in your little sisters class at school who tries to get into her pants by trying to impress you with shit fucking awful impersonations of some crappy comedian who's not even fucking funny in the first place.

Get a grip, lad. It's not even funny any more.

Diamond White wrote: Liam is like some kid in your little sisters class at school who tries to get into her pants by trying to impress you with shit fucking awful impersonations of some crappy comedian who's not even fucking funny in the first place.

Get a grip, lad. It's not even funny any more.

Shouldn't that read "tries (and fails) to get into her pants"?

He aint heavy, He's my Brother-in-Law

back to topic.

It ain't my cup of tea. I'll leave it at that.

Oh yes, the topic.

I think it's the shit

Liam, you are a master shit stirrer, sir. I aint rising to it. As Hibster says, impossible to dismiss any genre as important as hip hop in it's entirety.

Between '97 and 2000 I promoted loads of hip hop gigs at Trash in Glasgow featuring pretty much everybody who was anybody in the "old skool" scene. I went up to Grandmnaster Flash in Nell's Nightclub in New York on a Monday night in '97 when he was DJing to two men and a dog and told him I wanted to bring him over to Glasgow. He gave me his agents number (Cockney expat and influential scenester Ruza Blue) and I brought him over two months later. Over the next three years I brought over Bambatta, Grandwizard Theodore, Jazzy Jay, Grandmaster Caz and the TRUE creator himself DJ Kool Herc as well as booking a whole bunch of touring acts including Jeru Tha Damaja, Jurassic 5 and The Pharcyde.

Happy days.......

And PE are playing the Barras in October.

And I took Schooly D for a Fish Tea in the Blue Lagoon chippie on Sauchiehall Street

Oh come on, Liam. We all know you'll change your tune once Slir Elton John's new hippity-hop album drops like a mad bomb.

(The Good Doctor) Martin Fradley wrote:

EdelBrock wrote: It seems this music is only for the moment. It gets forgotten a couple months after it's been released.

What's really6 sad is that many of the sampling, or stright-ripping off songs isn't realized by the younger gen. They actually believe that the rapper came up with the tunes. It's amazingly stupid crap.

JHC

Pal, you are scraping new lows (even for you) with that signature. I suggest you remove it, not least because 'marines and their rifles' have in recent years proven to be no match for an angry Arab with a car full of explosives. BOOM.

Current number of US military personnel who have died in Iraq: 2661.

Number of estimated Iraqi civilians & security forces who have died in August 2006 alone: 1203

Now that's amazingly stupid crap.

Penis-envy still going on? I thought you left that one on the last board. Amazing you can quote numbers that have little to do with the point you are making, other than they are from the same war....good for you!:\party:

JHC

Can't say I despise ALL rap...but I know exactly how Liam feels in Work, because I have a simillar fuckwitt in my own place of gainful. She does not listen to Public Enemy or the like....it's STRICTLY the end of the rap spectrum best describe as ....... "nick some other fucker's song, shove a big kick drum on it, say it's your song, then shout "I'm great I'm great I'm great, cos I can rap, I'm a very good rapper, and so I am great and I fuck lots of bitches cos of this, and I have a big cock............." all fucking over it."

I've considered self-harming on a few occasions, stabbing myself in the arm with a knitting needle may have taken the pain away.

the aforementioned public enemy, NWA, run DMC, grandmaster flash and de la soul (probably the best sample ever: their use of steely dan's 'peg') are excellent. so are keith sweat, ll cool j (especially momma said knock you out), a tribe called quest, queen latifah and mc lyte. i don't care for most rap that's around now, but neither do i dismiss a song simply because it's rap. every genre has its poo and its diamonds.

There's plenty of good poetic original hip hop that isn't about bitches or guns or gold rimz or grillz.

Unfortunately you're hard pressed to hear any of it outside of college radio.

Most of the rap you hear these days on corporate radio and on major labels is despicably exploitative garbage... which I imagine is what Liam is referring to... so I agree with him on that.

Still you should seek out the good stuff sometime.

Mr disco 99 wrote: There's plenty of good poetic original hip hop that isn't about bitches or guns or gold rimz or grillz.

Unfortunately you're hard pressed to hear any of it outside of college radio.

Most of the rap you hear these days on corporate radio and on major labels is despicably exploitative garbage... which I imagine is what Liam is referring to... so I agree with him on that.

Still you should seek out the good stuff sometime.

Any suggestions?

JHC

Martin, changed my signature just because it bothered you. Fitting isn't it?

JHC

(The Good Doctor) Martin Fradley wrote:

EdelBrock wrote: It seems this music is only for the moment. It gets forgotten a couple months after it's been released.

What's really6 sad is that many of the sampling, or stright-ripping off songs isn't realized by the younger gen. They actually believe that the rapper came up with the tunes. It's amazingly stupid crap.

JHC

Pal, you are scraping new lows (even for you) with that signature. I suggest you remove it, not least because 'marines and their rifles' have in recent years proven to be no match for an angry Arab with a car full of explosives. BOOM.

to be fair fradds he did have a point. after all - how many of those us deaths were as a result of friendly fire?

hibster wrote:

(The Good Doctor) Martin Fradley wrote:

EdelBrock wrote: It seems this music is only for the moment. It gets forgotten a couple months after it's been released.

What's really6 sad is that many of the sampling, or stright-ripping off songs isn't realized by the younger gen. They actually believe that the rapper came up with the tunes. It's amazingly stupid crap.

JHC

Pal, you are scraping new lows (even for you) with that signature. I suggest you remove it, not least because 'marines and their rifles' have in recent years proven to be no match for an angry Arab with a car full of explosives. BOOM.

to be fair fradds he did have a point. after all - how many of those us deaths were as a result of friendly fire?

:D

EdelBrock wrote: Martin, changed my signature just because it bothered you. Fitting isn't it?

JHC

Not as fitting as mine, sweetheart.

AgentWood wrote: the aforementioned public enemy, NWA, run DMC, grandmaster flash and de la soul (probably the best sample ever: their use of steely dan's 'peg') are excellent. so are keith sweat, ll cool j (especially momma said knock you out), a tribe called quest, queen latifah and mc lyte. i don't care for most rap that's around now, but neither do i dismiss a song simply because it's rap. every genre has its poo and its diamonds.

Indeed. New Order make some crap songs too! As does Morrissey, Depeche Mode, U2, The Fall, Stone Roses, Pearl Jam, you name 'em they've dropped musical bollocks at times!

Even Pearl Jam have never done anything quite so musically offensive as the rap music that has been polluting our airwaves for years now.

what you think of sugar hills gang rappers delight??

Worst "song" of all time:

House of Pain- Jump Around.

without question.

Uncle Liam wrote: Worst "song" of all time:

House of Pain- Jump Around.

without question.

Bollocks. Again.

Get some ale down yer neck, and when this comes on you'll find it hard not to get up on the floor. Good times tune, I shall request that Monty plays it at NOOL Day!

Uncle Liam wrote:

House of Pain- Jump Around.

What a great song to have a mosh to in a nightclub.

After basically spending the last 7 years of my life frequenting various indie clubs, I have heard that piece of shit hundreds of times. I have always left the dancefloor in disgust. No matter how shitfaced I was.

Uncle Liam wrote: After basically spending the last 7 years of my life frequenting various indie clubs, I have heard that piece of shit hundreds of times. I have always left the dancefloor in disgust. No matter how shitfaced I was.

Rap is Crap.

I too hate the tough nigga image that comes with it, oh, and the great lyrics, "shake that ass baby", etc.......gee, it takes a long time to think up those meaningful lyrics.

Am going to see U2 in November and have to sit though bloody Kanye West......how could they do that to us?? As if U2 fans are going to like him.

Barnette wrote: Rap is Crap.

I too hate the tough nigga image that comes with it, oh, and the great lyrics, "shake that ass baby", etc.......gee, it takes a long time to think up those meaningful lyrics.

Am going to see U2 in November and have to sit though bloody Kanye West......how could they do that to us?? As if U2 fans are going to like him.

He's one of the more forward thinking rappers of recent times. And his live shows are very theatrical, not just a DJ and some shouting into a mic.

Christopher Owens wrote:

Barnette wrote: Rap is Crap.

I too hate the tough nigga image that comes with it, oh, and the great lyrics, "shake that ass baby", etc.......gee, it takes a long time to think up those meaningful lyrics.

Am going to see U2 in November and have to sit though bloody Kanye West......how could they do that to us?? As if U2 fans are going to like him.

He's one of the more forward thinking rappers of recent times. And his live shows are very theatrical, not just a DJ and some shouting into a mic.

So I might enjoy it a little bit then??

I wasnt aware U2 fans liked music.

I'll always resent U2 for having the Killers support them in Cardiff while I got stuck with Athlete. Although saying that, Idlewild played as well, and they werent bad considering how awful the sound was.

Killers would have been cool.

Barnette wrote:

So I might enjoy it a little bit then??

Hopefully.

Try this.

Uncle Liam wrote: I wasnt aware U2 fans liked music.

I'll always resent U2 for having the Killers support them in Cardiff while I got stuck with Athlete. Although saying that, Idlewild played as well, and they werent bad considering how awful the sound was.

Thought you hated U2

It makes it mush easier to criticise a band if you've seen them live. And, they have to be ticked off the list. And New Years Day is a cracking tune.

Oh, and I went simply because I could.

Christopher Owens wrote:

Barnette wrote:

So I might enjoy it a little bit then??

Hopefully.

Try this.

Cheers mate - he certainly looks a bit classier than some of the other rappers, with the violins etc behind him. I'll let you know what I think when I see him live. :)

Electro! :)

Barnette wrote: Killers would have been cool.

I once saw L7 in Oz supporting the Hoodoo Gurus.

what a mismatch.

we were there for the barefooted L7 hairy girls. but the majority were there for the Hoodoo's. We left before Hoodoo Gurus came on.

Uncle Liam wrote: After basically spending the last 7 years of my life frequenting various indie clubs, I have heard that piece of shit hundreds of times. I have always left the dancefloor in disgust. No matter how shitfaced I was.

" I bet that you look a miserable cunt on the dancefloor"......

oldmonkey wrote:

" I bet that you look a miserable cunt on the dancefloor"......

"Dancing to Mozza like a twat from 1984."

J.A.K wrote:

Barnette wrote: Killers would have been cool.

I once saw L7 in Oz supporting the Hoodoo Gurus.

what a mismatch.

we were there for the barefooted L7 hairy girls. but the majority were there for the Hoodoo's. We left before Hoodoo Gurus came on.

Have never heard of L7 - who are they?

Yeah, Hoodoos were pretty crap.

"Pretend We're Dead" was their record that got played. US female rockers.

Ewwwww, I just went to Wikipedia - that tampon story can't be true

Lead singer threw her tampon into the crowd at Reading 92.

I do when I go to a club expecting guitar and electro music and i hear shit like that.

I remember for my A Level results, we went to an 80s night in manchester. And that racket was played. Ruined the whole night... that and the rest of the hip hop that was played that night. Bastards.

Uncle Liam wrote: I wasnt aware U2 fans liked music.

or of much else by the sound of it liam!

u2 had rem supporting them in milton keynes in 1984, they had the arcade fire a couple of years ago, they had lone justice, lou reed & the pogues when i saw them in 1986 (i think that was when the joshua tree was out?)

they've had some cracking support bands

hibster wrote:

Uncle Liam wrote: I wasnt aware U2 fans liked music.

or of much else by the sound of it liam!

u2 had rem supporting them in milton keynes in 1984, they had the arcade fire a couple of years ago, they had lone justice, lou reed & the pogues when i saw them in 1986 (i think that was when the joshua tree was out?)

they've had some cracking support bands

jesus,i was at milton keynes in 1984. i must say u2 were fantastic that night.the crowd were up for it as well after being pissed on all day.i recall rem got plastic bottled

Barnette wrote: Rap is Crap.

I too hate the tough nigga image that comes with it, oh, and the great lyrics, "shake that ass baby", etc.......gee, it takes a long time to think up those meaningful lyrics.

Am going to see U2 in November and have to sit though bloody Kanye West......how could they do that to us?? As if U2 fans are going to like him.

Kanye West is one of the more thoughtful rappers (oxymoron?) around. Trust me, it could be much worse.

hibster wrote:

Uncle Liam wrote: I wasnt aware U2 fans liked music.

or of much else by the sound of it liam!

u2 had rem supporting them in milton keynes in 1984, they had the arcade fire a couple of years ago, they had lone justice, lou reed & the pogues when i saw them in 1986 (i think that was when the joshua tree was out?)

they've had some cracking support bands

I'm not denying that. I was questioning their fans. Every U2 fan i seem to talk to doesnt seem to like much else.

EdelBrock wrote:

Mr disco 99 wrote: There's plenty of good poetic original hip hop that isn't about bitches or guns or gold rimz or grillz.

Unfortunately you're hard pressed to hear any of it outside of college radio.

Most of the rap you hear these days on corporate radio and on major labels is despicably exploitative garbage... which I imagine is what Liam is referring to... so I agree with him on that.

Still you should seek out the good stuff sometime.

Any suggestions?

JHC

Hmm... Roots definitely... There's a huge scene in Atlanta right now, hard to know where to start. Mars Ill is one that just signed a deal with EMI.

Honestly I don't keep up with the scene much. I just tune into it on Georgia State University radio sometimes when I'm in the city.

three words:

fuck. tha. police.

now that's rap

Uncle Liam wrote:

hibster wrote:

Uncle Liam wrote: I wasnt aware U2 fans liked music.

or of much else by the sound of it liam!

u2 had rem supporting them in milton keynes in 1984, they had the arcade fire a couple of years ago, they had lone justice, lou reed & the pogues when i saw them in 1986 (i think that was when the joshua tree was out?)

they've had some cracking support bands

I'm not denying that. I was questioning their fans. Every U2 fan i seem to talk to doesnt seem to like much else.

I find this to be true of alot of U2 fans aswell... Liked Joshau Tree back in the day,and it's still a good album..But personally the overriding feeling is U2 are shite,Joshua Tree apart.

Oh,and I cannot abide modern day Rap,and posturing"big me up I'm a bling cunt"Rappers...Boring same old,same old.

Boatraceface wrote:

I find this to be true of alot of U2 fans aswell... Liked Joshau Tree back in the day,and it's still a good album..But personally the overriding feeling is U2 are shite,Joshua Tree apart.

Oh,and I cannot abide modern day Rap,and posturing"big me up I'm a bling cunt"Rappers...Boring same old,same old.

Oh, come now. Achtung Baby kicks ass! Most everything they've done since then has been shite, though.

Shellshocker wrote:

Boatraceface wrote:

I find this to be true of alot of U2 fans aswell... Liked Joshau Tree back in the day,and it's still a good album..But personally the overriding feeling is U2 are shite,Joshua Tree apart.

Oh,and I cannot abide modern day Rap,and posturing"big me up I'm a bling cunt"Rappers...Boring same old,same old.

Oh, come now. Achtung Baby sucks ass!.

Sure does

This thread is about so called rap music, not U2!

Oh well, if this debate has merged into a music-we-hate discussion then may I just add: heavy fucking metal and its offshoots.

No redeeming qualities whatsoever. It's rehabilitation, post-Nirvana, amongst the young folk is perhaps the most obviously rancid zit on the face of British popular culture of the last 20 years. Jesus Christ, we had a thread about Audioslave on here a few days back. Audioslave.

Angst never sounded so pathetic. And to think dance music got displaced by a genre primarily committed to blaming daddy and girlies for all its woes.

It can fuck right off.

back on topic. Rap "music" fucking shit. No reedemable features whatsoever.

Uncle Liam wrote:

back on topic. Rap "music" fucking shit. No reedemable features whatsoever.

Rap music doesn't need your opinion.

No. But one of the great things about living in the west is being able to give ones own opinion on pretty much anything.

Oh, and i dont "need" to head a load of twats blasting out that shit out of their cars every day, but i still do. They can fuck off as well. Cunts.

|| | ||| 6217|| 8 || 3 wrote:

Uncle Liam wrote:

back on topic. Rap "music" fucking shit. No reedemable features whatsoever.

Rap music doesn't need your opinion.

"Rap is not afraid of you", surely?

How can a genre of "music" be afraid of anything? Surely it doesnt possess the capacity to have emotions?

Uncle Liam wrote: How can a genre of "music" be afraid of anything? Surely it doesnt possess the capacity to have emotions?

Hip-hop is a culture, boyeeeeeeeeeeeeeee, and therefore it conceivably does possess this capacity.

Anyway, I knows you're a wigga really, Liam!

I'm down with my homies, i think everyone knows that.

Cunt.

(The Good Doctor) Martin Fradley wrote: Oh well, if this debate has merged into a music-we-hate discussion then may I just add: heavy fucking metal and its offshoots.

No redeeming qualities whatsoever.

It can fuck right off.

Black Sabbath. Motorhead Napalm Death Ministry Slayer Sepultura Megadeth Pantera AC/DC

And I will confess a soft spot for some Iron Maiden tunes.

Audioslave are more classic rock these days.

This guy tells it how it is.

Christopher Owens wrote:

(The Good Doctor) Martin Fradley wrote: Oh well, if this debate has merged into a music-we-hate discussion then may I just add: heavy fucking metal and its offshoots.

No redeeming qualities whatsoever.

It can fuck right off.

Black Sabbath. Motorhead Napalm Death Ministry Slayer Sepultura Megadeth Pantera

Audioslave are more classic rock these days.

Thought that might prompt a post from Mr Owens! Didn't Ministry do "Jesus Built My Hotrod"? I'll grant that "Exception-That-Proves-the-Rule" status!

The rest - and 'classic rawk', whatever that is - can still fuck off!

(The Good Doctor) Martin Fradley wrote:

Thought that might prompt a post from Mr Owens! Didn't Ministry do "Jesus Built My Hotrod". I'll grant that "Exception-That-Proves-the-Rule" status!

They did indeed.

Christopher Owens wrote:

(The Good Doctor) Martin Fradley wrote: Oh well, if this debate has merged into a music-we-hate discussion then may I just add: heavy fucking metal and its offshoots.

No redeeming qualities whatsoever.

It can fuck right off.

Black Sabbath. Motorhead Napalm Death Ministry Slayer Sepultura Megadeth Pantera

Audioslave are more classic rock these days.

I knew you'd get in a word on Fradley's comment! BTW, Agreed. :) I'd add Godsmack and Sevendust to your list, for a taste of newer music.

(The Good Doctor) Martin Fradley wrote:

|| | ||| 6217|| 8 || 3 wrote:

Uncle Liam wrote:

back on topic. Rap "music" fucking shit. No reedemable features whatsoever.

Rap music doesn't need your opinion.

"Rap is not afraid of you", surely?

Nevermind

(The Good Doctor) Martin Fradley wrote:

Thought that might prompt a post from Mr Owens! Didn't Ministry do "Jesus Built My Hotrod". I'll grant that "Exception-That-Proves-the-Rule" status!

Don't forget "Every Day is Halloween" (Minstry). Not very metal-ly, though. "N.W.O." fucking rocks, too.

Shellshocker wrote:

(The Good Doctor) Martin Fradley wrote:

Thought that might prompt a post from Mr Owens! Didn't Ministry do "Jesus Built My Hotrod". I'll grant that "Exception-That-Proves-the-Rule" status!

Don't forget "Every Day is Halloween" (Minstry). Not very metal-ly, though. "N.W.O." fucking rocks, too.

Christopher Owens wrote:

Shellshocker wrote:

(The Good Doctor) Martin Fradley wrote:

Thought that might prompt a post from Mr Owens! Didn't Ministry do "Jesus Built My Hotrod". I'll grant that "Exception-That-Proves-the-Rule" status!

Don't forget "Every Day is Halloween" (Minstry). Not very metal-ly, though. "N.W.O." fucking rocks, too.

Good point! Don't forget AC/DC!

Has anyone pointed out that Tim Westwood is an absolute fucking wanker?

Fingers wrote: Has anyone pointed out that Tim Westwood is an absolute fucking wanker?

Uncle Liam wrote: Worst "song" of all time:

House of Pain- Jump Around.

without question.

one of the best songs to get pissed and, erm, jump around to.

Fingers wrote: Has anyone pointed out that Tim Westwood is an absolute fucking wanker?

Yes, but the dense cunts only wounded him.

Christopher Owens wrote:

After New Order, Anthrax were the second band I ever saw: Stoke Victoria Hall, May 1989.

It was weird. But not half as weird as GMEX '88!

Anthrax, they should take some me thinks

No way Digi, Starting up a Posse is one of my favourite records EVER.

Doctor? wrote: No way Digi, Starting up a Posse is one of my favourite records EVER.

No...."I'm The Man"!!!! they have a sense of humor!!!

Caught in a Mosh

Uncle Liam wrote:

hibster wrote:

Uncle Liam wrote: I wasnt aware U2 fans liked music.

or of much else by the sound of it liam!

u2 had rem supporting them in milton keynes in 1984, they had the arcade fire a couple of years ago, they had lone justice, lou reed & the pogues when i saw them in 1986 (i think that was when the joshua tree was out?)

they've had some cracking support bands

I'm not denying that. I was questioning their fans. Every U2 fan i seem to talk to doesnt seem to like much else.

Well, the U2 fans you talk to must have a bad case of tunnel vision. I like lots of different music but my three favourite bands happen to be New Order, Pink Floyd and U2 - that doesn't mean I don't listen to lots of other stuff - BUT DEFINITELY NOT RAP.

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And Siamese Dream is better than both albums.

So called "rap music" is just the voice of ghetto people.

Believe it or not, i'm actually quite popular in the office.

You have your own office then ?

But you're right RAP is naff, what i don't understand is, why do Rap singers ( haha ) wave there arms about so much?

|| | ||| 6217|| 8 || 3 wrote: So called "rap music" is just the voice of ghetto people.

are you implying that people who live in 'ghettoes' shouldn't have a voice?

AgentWood wrote:

|| | ||| 6217|| 8 || 3 wrote: So called "rap music" is just the voice of ghetto people.

are you implying that people who live in 'ghettoes' shouldn't have a voice?

no, just that Eminen is the voice of the ghetto.

I can't believe people are getting angry about sampling. What a reactionary bunch of tossers.

Nowt wrong with sampling!

oldmonkey wrote:

Uncle Liam wrote: Worst "song" of all time:

House of Pain- Jump Around.

without question.

Bollocks. Again.

Get some ale down yer neck, and when this comes on you'll find it hard not to get up on the floor. Good times tune, I shall request that Monty plays it at NOOL Day!

Certain-moi! And a bit of Missy Elliott's LOSE CONTROL I think. Know what yer mean Li,I can't be doing with it sometimes.It's not so much the music,it's the BLING thing which I find offensive.Just promote this lifestyle to our kids and just sit back an let it take over our towns/cities. But as much as I dislike a lot of rap,there's a lot of tunes I've liked as an exception.

HOUSE OF PAIN- Jump Around (!!!!!!!) GRANDMASTER FLASH - White Lines MISSY ELLIOTT - Lose Control MISSY - Get Ur Freak on KANYE WEST - well,everything I heard him do.Top guy SEAN PAUL - Burnin WILL SMITH - everything but that Just The Two Of Us shite oh and BLONDIE - Rapture COME ON!

Oh and that TOXIC RHYTHM tune that's been doing the rounds abroad recently.The one without Britney warbling on it!

Electro!

Planet Rock - Afrika Bambaataa & The Soul Sonic Force The Message - Grandmaster Flash
Rockit - Herbie Hancock Looking for the Perfect Beat - Afrika Bambaataa
White Lines - Grandmaster Flash Al-Naafiysh - Hashim Hip Hop, Be Bop (Don't Stop) - Man Parrish
I.O.U. - Freeez The Smurf - Tyrone Brunson Buffalo Girls - Malcolm McLaren It's Like That - Run DMC Scorpio - Grandmaster Flash & The Furious Five Mantronix - Bassline

Super Ally wrote:

Rockit - Herbie Hancock

excellent tune!

NOOLigan wrote:

AgentWood wrote:

|| | ||| 6217|| 8 || 3 wrote: So called "rap music" is just the voice of ghetto people.

are you implying that people who live in 'ghettoes' shouldn't have a voice?

no, just that Eminen is the voice of the ghetto.

eminem. another artist i really like.

*waits for tossing of rotten eggs*

Super Ally wrote: Electro!

Planet Rock - Afrika Bambaataa & The Soul Sonic Force The Message - Grandmaster Flash
Rockit - Herbie Hancock Looking for the Perfect Beat - Afrika Bambaataa
White Lines - Grandmaster Flash Al-Naafiysh - Hashim Hip Hop, Be Bop (Don't Stop) - Man Parrish
I.O.U. - Freeez The Smurf - Tyrone Brunson Buffalo Girls - Malcolm McLaren It's Like That - Run DMC Scorpio - Grandmaster Flash & The Furious Five Mantronix - Bassline

MANTRONIX!!

AgentWood wrote:

|| | ||| 6217|| 8 || 3 wrote: So called "rap music" is just the voice of ghetto people.

are you implying that people who live in 'ghettoes' shouldn't have a voice?

Well I don't imply that because I do not think I have a right to tell people what they should and should not do. I merely stated a fact.

AgentWood wrote:

NOOLigan wrote:

AgentWood wrote:

|| | ||| 6217|| 8 || 3 wrote: So called "rap music" is just the voice of ghetto people.

are you implying that people who live in 'ghettoes' shouldn't have a voice?

no, just that Eminen is the voice of the ghetto.

eminem. another artist i really like.

*waits for tossing of rotten eggs*

eminem is only good for certian singles...the other filler on his albums is him whinning about personal things.....quite tedious shite.....but some of his singles are great.

AgentWood wrote:

NOOLigan wrote:

AgentWood wrote:

|| | ||| 6217|| 8 || 3 wrote: So called "rap music" is just the voice of ghetto people.

are you implying that people who live in 'ghettoes' shouldn't have a voice?

no, just that Eminen is the voice of the ghetto.

eminem. another artist i really like.

*waits for tossing of rotten eggs*

Some of his stuff is really good, and some of it sounds like it was written by a 12 year old.

Ian Curtis as a rapper id love to see that!

Spotnick wrote: What about Feel Every Beat?

worrabout it?

I attended my 1st rap/hip hop concert ever this year, freebie tickets you see. Kanye West, great show it was too

Snoopy wrote: I attended my 1st rap/hip hop concert ever this year, freebie tickets you see. Kanye West, great show it was too

can't argue with a freebie. the bill and danny there must have been top drawer.

Snoopy wrote: I attended my 1st rap/hip hop concert ever this year, freebie tickets you see. Kanye West, great show it was too

Did you get Shot?

Spotnick wrote: What about Feel Every Beat?

The premise here is that everyone here would like all of New Order's back catelogue, no matter how pissy.

New Order's raps are the thing I secretly hope doesn't come up when I am drunkenly defending them against abuse from people who don't like them.

Feel Every Beat is a great song with an awful rap. A c-rap, if you will.

(See what I did there?)

Has anyone thought to mention the Beastie Boys yet? They are brilliant.

Diamond White wrote:

Spotnick wrote: What about Feel Every Beat?

The premise here is that everyone here would like all of New Order's back catelogue, no matter how pissy.

New Order's raps are the thing I secretly hope doesn't come up when I am drunkenly defending them against abuse from people who don't like them.

Feel Every Beat is a great song with an awful rap. A c-rap, if you will.

(See what I did there?)

Has anyone thought to mention the Beastie Boys yet? They are brilliant.

Yeah, I love the Beasties. I almost got to see them in concert near here a few years ago but they pulled out a couple of months before the engagement.

Shellshocker wrote:

Diamond White wrote:

Spotnick wrote: What about Feel Every Beat?

The premise here is that everyone here would like all of New Order's back catelogue, no matter how pissy.

New Order's raps are the thing I secretly hope doesn't come up when I am drunkenly defending them against abuse from people who don't like them.

Feel Every Beat is a great song with an awful rap. A c-rap, if you will.

(See what I did there?)

Has anyone thought to mention the Beastie Boys yet? They are brilliant.

Yeah, I love the Beasties. I almost got to see them in concert near here a few years ago but they pulled out a couple of months before the engagement.

That wasn't the tour with Rage Against the Machine that they canceled when one of the Boys broke his arm, was it?

Diamond White wrote:

Has anyone thought to mention the Beastie Boys yet? They are brilliant.

i saw them at T in the park in 1998. they were fantastic--in their 'intergalactic' wear. i was completely covered in mud, which meant that no one would come near me and i had a ten feet space around me to dance. that's the ticket.

Diamond White wrote:

Has anyone thought to mention the Beastie Boys yet? They are brilliant.

i saw them at T in the park in 1998. they were fantastic--in their 'intergalactic' wear. i was completely covered in mud, which meant that no one would come near me and i had a ten feet space around me to dance. that's the ticket.

His Holiness, The Pope wrote:

Shellshocker wrote:

Diamond White wrote:

Spotnick wrote: What about Feel Every Beat?

The premise here is that everyone here would like all of New Order's back catelogue, no matter how pissy.

New Order's raps are the thing I secretly hope doesn't come up when I am drunkenly defending them against abuse from people who don't like them.

Feel Every Beat is a great song with an awful rap. A c-rap, if you will.

(See what I did there?)

Has anyone thought to mention the Beastie Boys yet? They are brilliant.

Yeah, I love the Beasties. I almost got to see them in concert near here a few years ago but they pulled out a couple of months before the engagement.

That wasn't the tour with Rage Against the Machine that they canceled when one of the Boys broke his arm, was it?

Yeah, I think so. Something like 6 years ago, maybe? I was planning to go to the Darien Lake, NY concert.

Yeah. I was planning to see them at the Gorge Amphitheatre.

Uncle Liam wrote: Fucking shit the lot of it.

I'd rather listen to fucking Pearl Jam, Snow Patrol, The Magic Number and Razorshite and the same time on a continuous loop than listen to this shite.

There's your solution then!

Its got its place in music history. N.W.A`s Straight Outta Compton was a great album,still sounds good now. Nearly everything since 93 onwards is just "...look how black my bitch is" shit.