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Has music in general gone as far as it can go?

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Difficult to see what the next progression will be without regurgitating the past. Unless you were prepared to look towards the obscure the last decade has been pretty lacklustre mostly

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What was it the Sex Pistols said? "We hate rock"?

How'd that turn out then?

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Silly question.

Probably asked many times in the last five decades.

but then you are a bit of a nobhead :nod:

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Probably asked a thousand years ago too. Less chance than ever of it being true now, we no longer have a limited array of instruments.

Maybe he means pop music? That's not changed it's form since the 1940's

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Maybe our society has peaked...it is hard to imagine any extreme that has not been attempted, or any mix untried.... maybe acoustic country acid house hasn't been tried yet.

Oh wait, the KLF sort of did that already.

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surely pop music goes against sharia law.

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um...have you heard my music??? myspace.com/jbaron82 and the album "THE LEFT FIELD" is finished and will be out soon. I'm taking music to the next level just listen to me and believe in me.

J

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I'll just give up then, what a waste of time my life has been, i'll go and crawl under a rock and get some meaningless crappy job.:cry:

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No Holiday wrote: um...have you heard my music??? myspace.com/jbaron82 and the album "THE LEFT FIELD" is finished and will be out soon. I'm taking music to the next level just listen to me and believe in me.

J

Well, at least you have one fan :evil4:

(can't really slag yer, I've not listened to it.....myspace is locus non grata onboard the TARDIS, however, I suspect rapping may be invoved, so signs do not bode well....not just cos I'm not best fond of it, but also cos Mansour dislikes that fuzzy wuzzy nonsense and will damn you to hell for it!!)

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Old Lead Foot wrote: I'll just give up then, what a waste of time my life has been, i'll go and crawl under a rock and get some meaningless crappy job.:cry:

It's no good, I even tried sitting on my hands.........

Ahem........

MORE MEANINGLESS AND CRAPPY THAN BEING A DRUMMER?????????

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:evil4:

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Old Lead Foot wrote: I'll just give up then, what a waste of time my life has been, i'll go and crawl under a rock and get some meaningless crappy job.:cry:

even that is stretching the bounds of optimism these days. easier to become a rent boy almost.

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Old Lead Foot wrote: I'll just give up then, what a waste of time my life has been, i'll go and crawl under a rock and get some meaningless crappy job.:cry:

There IS a queue you know!

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I enjoy my meaningless, crappy job, listening to writing and talking about music all day. Taking photos has become a sideline.

I think music will develop and progress. If the current wave of 'popular' bands nowadays is anything to go by, there'll be alot of people inspired to do something different.

Art of any kind progresses and develops and music will do so as well in time...

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i could always play for the cure:evil4:

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No Holiday wrote: um...have you heard my music??? myspace.com/jbaron82 and the album "THE LEFT FIELD" is finished and will be out soon. I'm taking music to the next level just listen to me and believe in me.

J

ermm,so you mean level 43 ? :shrug:

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Old Lead Foot wrote: i could always play for the cure:evil4:

Regular releases, regular touring. Things could be worse for a working musician.

Like waiting for the New Order lads. :evil4:

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maybe so, bet even i have standards:evil4:

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read bill drummond's book "17". he's got some ideas in there about all that stuff

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Music, IMO, peaked in late 1990.

1991-current = :banghead:

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Good topic this one (well done) and a question Ive been asking myself alot. I'd say the answer is probably YES.

Every genre of music has been done. Theres only 12 (7 if youre Chinese)notes in a scale. Top Of The Pops is no more. Video games are more popular than music. Oasis still sound the same as in 95. Theres not many bands that excite anymore.

When I look back at the 80's (although I admit there was a lot of crud) there were some fantastic singles. I think alot of folk are harsh of the 80's. It wasnt all Duran Duran, Thompson Twin, Kylie Minogue cheese. And even some of their songs werent too bad. Hits 4 compliation album (re 1985)is a great snapshot of music in this era.

Maybe Im just being nostalgic. I dunno.

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NO Regret wrote: Good topic this one (well done) and a question Ive been asking myself alot. I'd say the answer is probably YES.

Every genre of music has been done. Theres only 12 (7 if youre Chinese)notes in a scale. Top Of The Pops is no more. Video games are more popular than music. Oasis still sound the same as in 95. Theres not many bands that excite anymore.

When I look back at the 80's (although I admit there was a lot of crud) there were some fantastic singles. I think alot of folk are harsh of the 80's. It wasnt all Duran Duran, Thompson Twin, Kylie Minogue cheese. And even some of their songs werent too bad. Hits 4 compliation album (re 1985)is a great snapshot of music in this era.

Maybe Im just being nostalgic. I dunno.

Get the 'Atomic 80's' album, its a really good compilation. 80's music really was much more imaginative and quirky IMO.

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Mansour Ali wrote:

El Jarvo wrote:

Mansour Ali wrote: Never understood why these forums get so much traffic from the over 30's here.

Rrrrright, cos demographically New Order's core audience would be, er, what age-group?

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dont they move on and progress?

Or is it a case of prolonging adolescence?

Mansour Ali wrote: 80's music really was much more imaginative and quirky IMO.

:uhoh:

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Mansour Ali wrote: Difficult to see what the next progression will be without regurgitating the past. Unless you were prepared to look towards the obscure the last decade has been pretty lacklustre mostly

I think there is a future, it is indeterminate. When classical was the rage, of course, we hadn't invented electricity then

I just hope it doesn't go the way of ocmputers ruling everything, no I haven't been reading to much into The Terminator movies, but it does make you think

Back on the subject, I hope it doesn't go down the road of computerisation, I for one would love to strum the strings of a guitar or bang the drums, even though I can't play them.....well, yet

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Did anyone with an 80's obsession actually LIVE in the 80's?

Wonderful musical decade? The Birdie Song. Black Lace. Showaddywaddy hadn't been humanely gassed yet. Go West Sonia

Sorry, but you're fucking insane, or were born in 1989. The 80's were "my" years, my teens, my musically formative era. From it, I have carried New Order, and the ZTT record label's output.....everything else could burn for all I care.

This is an idiotic topic, music evolves and continues, the idea that it will suddenly cease is deeply dense. When orchestral music gave way to the chamber orchestral style, gave way to music hall, gave way to big band, gave way to rock and roll, gave way to pop, there was always some spastic who said "is this the end?" they were idiots then, they're idiots now. The only thing with no future is the idiot's ability to absorb new music. I too am becoming set in my ways, the difference is, I know it's me at fault and not everybody else in the whole world.

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Gentlemen, you bring up an interesting topic.

As far as songwriting goes, you're right to note that there is only a certain amount of keys, pitches and chords available to use, so it shouldn't come as any surprise that we hear the same old song being recorded and broadcasted again and again and again...

New Order, Depeche Mode and Simple Minds do still delay the inevitable admittance from the music industry though... The last a-ha album was a disappointment.

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Quite simply... no.

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When are we going to be able to jack the music directly into our brains, and just freak out, man...?

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Its gone as far as it can go for guys that hang out on thier porches, talk about ailments and yell at kids to stay off thier lawns:nod:

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0_o wrote: When are we going to be able to jack the music directly into our brains and just, freak out, man...?

I just need it to be loud enough to drown out the voices in my head...:crazy:

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Chris Nash wrote: I enjoy my meaningless, crappy job, listening to writing and talking about music all day.

how do you listen to writing? do you have someone read to you? ;-)

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Mansour Ali wrote: Unless you were prepared to look towards the obscure the last decade has been pretty lacklustre mostly

do you own ears at all? tghat is quite frankly a ridiculous statement

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hibster wrote:

Mansour Ali wrote: Unless you were prepared to look towards the obscure the last decade has been pretty lacklustre mostly

do you own ears at all? tghat is quite frankly a ridiculous statement

Oh, he has ears, they're just not connected to anything.

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