Top 3 crap New Order tracks
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In my own opinion:
Jetstream
Dracula's Castle
(No surprises I guess)
Krafty (Makes my list for the stupefyingly bad lyrics alone. Peter Hook's bassline for this song is actually kinda catchy)
Along those lines, Honourable mention goes to Turn My Way, for even though it's a gorgeous song, I love hearing it and Bernard and Billy sing their hearts out, the best part is the first verse, after which the lyrical content of the song completely flies apart. When I first heard the song, I was utterly mesmerized from the first words...Until this lovely chorus kicked in:
"I don't wanna be Like other people are Don't wanna own a key Don't wanna wash my car Don't wanna have to work Like other people do I wanted to be free I wanted to be true"
At which point I slammed my head into the wall. And it doesn't get much better from here. It's like Bernard was grasping at straws and picking out randomly rhyming words. For me anyway, it really hurt an otherwise beautiful song.
The trouble with Krafty was the chorus never quite achieves lift off. The verses are far superior to that chorus. Johnnie Walker is actually a big fan of the song, strangely enough. He always gives it a spin when he's sitting in for Terry Wogan's Radio 2 breakfast show. He's even played some of the other mixes of it too.
Though not officially a NO song, Barney's version of Sister Ray is the worst song they ever did.![]()
1.Jetstream 2.Turn my way 3. Rock the shack
As for Rock the Shack, I like Bobby Gillespie, and I like Primal Scream. But the song is shit.
As for Jetstream, there are a couple of songs I like by the Scissor Sisters...but this song is shit too IMO.
EdelBrock wrote: Though not officially a NO song, Barney's version of Sister Ray is the worst song they ever did.
Nonsense. Barney's ad lib lyrics on the Glastonbury 87 performance are among his finest works.
"She said i love you 'cause yer name begins with B!"![]()
"I said that's not a veerrryy good reason I said that's not a veerrryy good reason"
1/ Working Overtime 2/ Everyone Everywhere 3/ Rock the Shack
All so dull ![]()
also
1/ 1963 - Lionrock mix 2/ Ruined In a Day - Bogle mixes 3/ BLT - Armand Van Helden mix
All great songs ruined ![]()
johnny wrote: The trouble with Krafty was the chorus never quite achieves lift off. The verses are far superior to that chorus. Johnnie Walker is actually a big fan of the song, strangely enough. He always gives it a spin when he's sitting in for Terry Wogan's Radio 2 breakfast show. He's even played some of the other mixes of it too.
"You've gotta look at life the way it oughta be Looking at the stars from underneath a tree There's a world inside and a world out there With that tv you just don't care
They've got violence, wars and killing too All shrunk down in a two-foot tube But out there the world is a beautiful placeWith mountains, lakes and the human race And this is where I wanna be And this is what I wanna do"
The ENTIRE SONG sounds like this. I'm sorry, but while I like the beat too the lyrics are just ghastly. I believe it is actually a felony to play this song publicly in some areas as its lyrics classify as a form of terrorism.
johnny wrote:
EdelBrock wrote: Though not officially a NO song, Barney's version of Sister Ray is the worst song they ever did.
Nonsense. Barney's ad lib lyrics on the Glastonbury 87 performance are among his finest works.
"She said i love you 'cause yer name begins with B!"
"I said that's not a veerrryy good reason I said that's not a veerrryy good reason"
Seriously? That's actually pretty awesome.
"Go on back to work"
"Aye aye cap'in"
"Go on back to work"
"Aye aye cap'in"
"Go on back to work"
"Aye aye cap'in"
ad infinitum
Krafty's grown on me though. The lyrics are terrorism??? I actually like the positive vibe in the lyrics and the music. Yeah the lyrics are typical Barney stuff but to call it terrorism is a bit far fetched. And the lyrics do not seem to advocate terrorism, IMO.
Blackett88 wrote:
johnny wrote: The trouble with Krafty was the chorus never quite achieves lift off. The verses are far superior to that chorus. Johnnie Walker is actually a big fan of the song, strangely enough. He always gives it a spin when he's sitting in for Terry Wogan's Radio 2 breakfast show. He's even played some of the other mixes of it too.
"You've gotta look at life the way it oughta be Looking at the stars from underneath a tree There's a world inside and a world out there With that tv you just don't care
They've got violence, wars and killing too All shrunk down in a two-foot tube But out there the world is a beautiful placeWith mountains, lakes and the human race And this is where I wanna be And this is what I wanna do"
The ENTIRE SONG sounds like this. I'm sorry, but while I like the beat too the lyrics are just ghastly. I believe it is actually a felony to play this song publicly in some areas as its lyrics classify as a form of terrorism.
Heard Sink or Swim? Makes Krafty sound clever.
"Jesus save this heart of gold Take the time to save a soul Will he bend or will he crack? Save this yearling from the pack He's not aware of anything Sure as summer follows spring Doesn't know where he's coming from Reaching perfection takes too long
yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah (mutherfucker)"
or Dynamo
"Hey there whatcha gonna do Keep the faith inside of you This whole world can fall apart But youre still the brightest star"
leather_girl wrote: Krafty's grown on me though. The lyrics are terrorism??? I actually like the positive vibe in the lyrics and the music. Yeah the lyrics are typical Barney stuff but to call it terrorism is a bit far fetched. And the lyrics do not seem to advocate terrorism, IMO.
OK-I'll own up to an admittedly stupid joke: I was being a little silly. They of course do not ADVOCATE terrorism. I was making a joke that the lyrics are so bad playing them publicly could be CONSIDERED an act of terrorism. Yes it's a very positive song and it's bloody catchy and it grows on you, but you have to admit it's pretty laughable.
0_o wrote:
Blackett88 wrote:
johnny wrote: The trouble with Krafty was the chorus never quite achieves lift off. The verses are far superior to that chorus. Johnnie Walker is actually a big fan of the song, strangely enough. He always gives it a spin when he's sitting in for Terry Wogan's Radio 2 breakfast show. He's even played some of the other mixes of it too.
"You've gotta look at life the way it oughta be Looking at the stars from underneath a tree There's a world inside and a world out there With that tv you just don't care
They've got violence, wars and killing too All shrunk down in a two-foot tube But out there the world is a beautiful placeWith mountains, lakes and the human race And this is where I wanna be And this is what I wanna do"
The ENTIRE SONG sounds like this. I'm sorry, but while I like the beat too the lyrics are just ghastly. I believe it is actually a felony to play this song publicly in some areas as its lyrics classify as a form of terrorism.
Heard Sink or Swim? Makes Krafty sound clever.
"Jesus save this heart of gold Take the time to save a soul Will he bend or will he crack? Save this yearling from the pack He's not aware of anything Sure as summer follows spring Doesn't know where he's coming from Reaching perfection takes too long
yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah (mutherfucker)"
or Dynamo
"Hey there whatcha gonna do Keep the faith inside of you This whole world can fall apart But youre still the brightest star"
Ouch.
Shouldn't it be in DR Forum?
Anyway, the top 3 crap NO? Easy:
- Shellshock
- Way Of Life
- Working Overtime
Jetstream is saved by its gorgeous remixes. As for "Run Wild", it's actually tolerable; at least one can say Barney came to terms with God.
|| | ||| 6217|| 8 || 3 wrote: Shouldn't it be in DR Forum?
Anyway, the top 3 crap NO? Easy:
- Shellshock
- Way Of Life
- Working Overtime
yep, and state of the nation
Andrès wrote:
|| | ||| 6217|| 8 || 3 wrote: Shouldn't it be in DR Forum?
Anyway, the top 3 crap NO? Easy:
- Shellshock
- Way Of Life
- Working Overtime
yep, and state of the nation
Ooh, yeah-forgot about those...
Way of Life is pretty cool though, IMO.
Nick King wrote: Never Cry Another Tear...
I would agree with you wholeheartedly Nick, but as we both know, only a f**king moron would consider NCAT to be anything to do with a New Order release... ![]()
I'd rather listen to Rock the Shack than:
State of the Nation Morning Night and Day Jetstream
The only reason the Subculture 12-inch isn't included is because I blame John Robie for the epic crappiness moreso than NO.
...TIGHT! :barf:
£50 Note wrote: Rock The Sh*t Working Overtime Slow Jam (the title alone qualifies)
The titles don't seem to be ironic, which leads one to have a even worse opinion of them.... unless they are ironic because of the songs lack of irony.
Rock the Shack is just a horrible half assed demo, should have been a joke B side at best.
El Jarvo wrote: Young Offender Liar Sooner Than You Think
And loads more!
I agree that they're shit. But "Sooner Than You Think" is ace.
Stay off the drugs, Al.
:p
Jeffari-al-Texani wrote:
Andrès wrote: Every Little Counts
that's it...YOU ARE BANISHED!!!
Sorry, i can't with it....and chemical from republic ![]()
Blackett88 wrote:
OK-I'll own up to an admittedly stupid joke: I was being a little silly. They of course do not ADVOCATE terrorism. I was making a joke that the lyrics are so bad playing them publicly could be CONSIDERED an act of terrorism. Yes it's a very positive song and it's bloody catchy and it grows on you, but you have to admit it's pretty laughable.
nothing wrong with Bernards lyrics, especially if you think of them as having been written from the perspective of a retarded recluse man-child
- Jetstream
- Turn My Way
- Dracula's Castle
Jetstream is an okay tune, but is a shit record. Turn My Way is ruined by Billy Corgan. I cannot stand that man. I don't even mind the lyrics, it's a great song, but Billy Corgan ruins it. I don't dislike Dracula's Castle, but those lyrics are just physically impossible to listen to. I can only imagine what the lyrics are like for the leftovers..
That's difficult to choose because "Technique" has more than 3 tracks
.
Errrm...
- Blue Monday
- World in motion
- Blue Monday 88 maybe

Only 3?
Um
Rock The Shack Run Wild Every Little Counts
Really, there are quite a few. Though, er, I actually quite like Jetstream, I am embarrassed to admit.
404 error wrote: Only 3?
Um
Rock The Shack Run Wild Every Little Counts
Really, there are quite a few. Though, er, I actually quite like Jetstream, I am embarrassed to admit.
Well, we all have our opinions so to each their own!
I must say I'm actually quite fond of Every Little Counts, myself, but that's because it's hilarious. It's SO silly and ridiculous it's impossible to be taken seriously. The band sounds like they're just goofing around having a great time recording it, what with Bernard cracking up and Gillian's epic instrumental synth-crash to close it so for me at least it's difficult to not put a smile on too.
Every Little Counts is like an epic filler, a la Elegia, Avalanche.
But yes he's taking a piss at eh.. one of his lovers?
|| | ||| 6217|| 8 || 3 wrote: Every Little Counts is like an epic filler, a la Elegia, Avalanche.
But yes he's taking a piss at eh.. one of his lovers?
Taking a piss at The Velvet Underground.
OK ladies, I forced myself to sit through WFTSC yesterday just to see if I remembered correctly which track sucks the most.
Surprisingly, not only do I not hate "Dracula's Castle"... but if you gave it any other title (e.g., Ultra Tuesday) you could slot it right into side 2 of Technique and never know the difference.
Republic's second half can probably take care of this (sans Special, of course). Thing is, some versions are ace and others are weak. Paradise comes to mind. Much prefer the Reading 98 version to the Brotherhood take. Maybe that's why I don't rate Brotherhood that high...after three albums of GREAT opening tracks they kind of tossed off a plodding track with a cloudy mix. That's why I like Weirdo so much---a breath of fresh air even if the track succeeds mostly because of its break-neck pace.