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Not sure how many nights I'll be staying in Miami yet, but I've booked for the Friday night show: not sure how/whythe standard standing tickets are $80 each (plus booking fee) but the mezzanine tickets are a couple of hundred dollars more for what doesn't look like a great improvement (unless you've overdone it in the sun in the afternoon and need to sit down for a couple of hours)

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Wow its finally sorta almost time for these shows! Right now I have Friday and Saturday tix. Thinking Tues/Fri will be the same show and Wed/Sat the same shows. Just a guess since they said they won't be the exact same shows, but I don't really see them doing 4 different sets. Guess we'll see!

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Finally got round to booking my flights this afternoon (mainly because the prices have rocketed since I last looked at the price of tickets) - I'm really looking forward to it but I'm not going to be shocked if its pretty much the same set they played when I saw them in Paris last month.

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I'm kind of hoping that, as this is a bit of a special occasion, they decide to mix the set up a little and introduce some songs not heard for a while.

Not that I'll be going (out of my price range, sadly). Hope everyone who is able to go enjoys it though.

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perspexorange wrote: I'm kind of hoping that, as this is a bit of a special occasion, they decide to mix the set up a little and introduce some songs not heard for a while.

My money is on - same core set as always with 2 songs different each night. Roll up roll up for the Crystal/Restless/Ceremony lottery!

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I’m kind of suspecting that Everything’s Gone Green is gonna end up in the set at some point.

That and Thieves Like Us.

They will be there at some point (i.e. when Barney realises how bloody great the two tracks are). Might as well be at Miami. Fingers crossed for you guys.

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Just to elaborate, I can kind of see why they aren’t trying out EGG. It’s a complicated track, which isn’t ‘immediate’ to most people’s ears. A marginal track.

But, my God, Thieves Like Us is surely magnificent to everyone on the planet? Any band would be wetting themselves to write a song anywhere near as good as that.

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Really looking forward to this, I have tickets for the Tuesday. My wife thinks I'm mad though for travelling to see a band in Miami whose singer lives half a mile from me.

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2019 Barney can't sing 1984 Thieves Like Us. His voice has dropped. They'd have to tune it down, like they did with Perfect Kiss.

I'd love for Everything's Gone Green to make a return, but when they last attempted it in 2005 Barney slagged the lyrics off.

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perspexorange wrote: Just to elaborate, I can kind of see why they aren’t trying out EGG. It’s a complicated track, which isn’t ‘immediate’ to most people’s ears. A marginal track.

But, my God, Thieves Like Us is surely magnificent to everyone on the planet? Any band would be wetting themselves to write a song anywhere near as good as that.

I'm sure I've read an interview somewhere where Barney says he like TLU but it's quite boring for the band to play live? Which I suppose makes sense in a way because apart from the bass and a few synth pads it's mainly sequenced parts, but still a shame. He's said something similar about Run, they really like it but have tried and failed loads of times to get it to work live.

As for EGG yeah I agree. I would love to hear it but it's definitely a more 'difficult' track that isn't necessarily a crowd pleaser. Also Barney's comment before they played it at a gig back in '05 (I can't remember where, Paris?), i.e. 'this song has really miserable fucking lyrics' doesn't seem to suggest it's one of his favourites...

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perspexorange wrote: I'm kind of hoping that, as this is a bit of a special occasion, they decide to mix the set up a little and introduce some songs not heard for a while.

My money is on - same core set as always with 2 songs different each night. Roll up roll up for the Crystal/Restless/Ceremony lottery!

"Come on!"

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Going for 2 nights since I'm about 15 miles from Miami. Very excited.

Have they ever done a residency before? Maybe Australia?

I don't expect drastic changes to the setlist. They'll probably alternate with Ceremony/Regret/Age of Consent/World like they've done at most shows.

I really hope they don't play Crystal. It drags on for soooooo long.

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Anyone heard anything about support acts? The Australian and European support acts were announced well in advance, but theres nothing on either the New Order or Fillmore websites other than Arthur Baker being there.

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Its been announced that they're performing ∑(No,5k,20Mia) on the 14th: I don't fly out until the 15th and I'm seeing them on the 17th so don't know if this means its going to be a totally different set each night?

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New Order announce ∑(No,5k,20Mia) a special performance as part of their residency at the intimate Fillmore Miami Beach at the Jackie Gleason Theater. For the first time the band will deliver an upfront performance, without synth orchestra and art installation, of the unique collection of songs and arrangements that made their acclaimed Manchester International Festival appearance such a huge success. This fascinating musical selection will be a highlight for any New Order fan! The special performance date will be Tuesday, January 14th. Additional residency performances are scheduled for Wednesday, Friday and Saturday January 15th, 17th and 18th. All performances start at 8PM. Tickets are on sale NOW!

Facebook and their website say 5k, but the poster says 5m. I'm betting that the poster is correct. ∑(No,5m,20Mia) = New Order, 5 members, 20(20) Miami. While there are probably 5 keyboards on stage, there's also drums, guitars, a bass, and a melodica. ;)

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The picture/poster that was put up on Instagram only says the 14th: if it was going to be the same show for all four nights I would have thought it would say 14th-18th January (unless each show is going to get its own individual poster)

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Ken Doherty wrote: The picture/poster that was put up on Instagram only says the 14th: if it was going to be the same show for all four nights I would have thought it would say 14th-18th January (unless each show is going to get its own individual poster)

Read the announcement. It specifies that the special setlist is one night only.

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With regards to the 'announcement' I am asking because I have seen NO enough times over the years to be very sceptical about them playing different sets each night over a stretch of shows, that is all.[hi]

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I hope they mix it up! They could rotate any one of the So It Goes songs into the other nights, since they've learned to play them as a 5-piece and not a 17-piece, plus they added Fine Time and World to the recent European tour. It'd be fantastic if they dusted off another little surprise. I've always been partial to the live version of Face Up. Maybe something as yet unplayed from Music Complete, like Unlearn This Hatred?

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Ken Doherty wrote: Anyone heard anything about support acts? The Australian and European support acts were announced well in advance, but theres nothing on either the New Order or Fillmore websites other than Arthur Baker being there.

Looking at this Fillmore, I'm thinking its just going to be Arthur Baker DJing, which might not be a bad thing, when I saw them in New York in 2012, the band playing before NO were dreadful (I can't remember their name and they don't deserve Googling to find out).

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Yep Arthur Baker. I enjoyed him last time, but its Arthur Baker so of course I would. Its funny because one article I saw said DJ Baker is opening. They obviously have no idea who he is.

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jasonk848 wrote: Yep Arthur Baker. I enjoyed him last time, but its Arthur Baker so of course I would. Its funny because one article I saw said DJ Baker is opening. They obviously have no idea who he is.

Sure they do.

He's known for his chain of pizza parlors. They saw it in his New Order video once upon a time.

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I'm getting ready (pun intended) to book a night or 2 in Miami Beach. Coming from home in PA to my place in Daytona then on to MIA within a few days, I'm unsure where I want to stay.

For Winter Music Conference I stayed more in Mid-Beach at the FountainBleau / Eden Roc areas. For this, I want to keep it more in walking distance to the Fillmore, since my wife will be dog-sitting and hanging outside during the show. Art Deco is a plus.

Any specific ideas? Anywhere to stay or not to stay? Right now The Shelborne is looking good, especially considering the available price verses the $800+ standard rate.

I've attended my share of NO Shows, nothing spectacular though. 1986 in college, 1989 Technique, 1993 Republic, 2010-2012 at Roseland, 2016 Music Complete a few nights apart in NYC (RCMH) and Philly.

Any ideas? Can my wife wait backstage with the dogs, they love NO! Well, the dogs do.

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Audi Junkie wrote: I'm getting ready (pun intended) to book a night or 2 in Miami Beach. Coming from home in PA to my place in Daytona then on to MIA within a few days, I'm unsure where I want to stay.

For Winter Music Conference I stayed more in Mid-Beach at the FountainBleau / Eden Roc areas. For this, I want to keep it more in walking distance to the Fillmore, since my wife will be dog-sitting and hanging outside during the show. Art Deco is a plus.

Any specific ideas? Anywhere to stay or not to stay? Right now The Shelborne is looking good, especially considering the available price verses the $800+ standard rate.

I've attended my share of NO Shows, nothing spectacular though. 1986 in college, 1989 Technique, 1993 Republic, 2010-2012 at Roseland, 2016 Music Complete a few nights apart in NYC (RCMH) and Philly.

Any ideas? Can my wife wait backstage with the dogs, they love NO! Well, the dogs do.

Not sure about the prices leaving it so late to book a room(s), but the Delano? About a 5 minute walk by the look of things on Google maps.

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Audi Junkie wrote: I'm getting ready (pun intended) to book a night or 2 in Miami Beach. Coming from home in PA to my place in Daytona then on to MIA within a few days, I'm unsure where I want to stay.

For Winter Music Conference I stayed more in Mid-Beach at the FountainBleau / Eden Roc areas. For this, I want to keep it more in walking distance to the Fillmore, since my wife will be dog-sitting and hanging outside during the show. Art Deco is a plus.

Any specific ideas? Anywhere to stay or not to stay? Right now The Shelborne is looking good, especially considering the available price verses the $800+ standard rate.

I've attended my share of NO Shows, nothing spectacular though. 1986 in college, 1989 Technique, 1993 Republic, 2010-2012 at Roseland, 2016 Music Complete a few nights apart in NYC (RCMH) and Philly.

Any ideas? Can my wife wait backstage with the dogs, they love NO! Well, the dogs do.

If you're getting a good price at the Shelbourne, I'd say go for it. I actually parked by the Shelbourne for the show back in January of this year so you'll be right there. The good thing about Miami Beach is you can pretty much walk to anything. I assume Ocean Drive/South Beach will probably be more expensive since that's a heavy tourist area.

If all else fails you could always find an AirBnB.

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Donzii opening on the first two nights, and Rockers Revenge on the second two nights: New Order

Its also been announced that this Wednesday will be New Order Day in Miami : I don't know if anywhere other than the Fillmore is getting involved, and I don't know if you have to have a ticket for the concert to get into the after party in the Fillmore lobby (I won't arrive in South Beach until about 9 o'clock that night and I can't think security would let anyone in until at least 11).

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Donzii - Sand

Newest single from Donzii, they sound interesting. Wish they were playing one of the weekend shows.

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fyi - If anyone wants to meet up for a drink sometime Fri/Sat i'll be around.

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"Expect Surprises" in New Order's Miami Beach 'residency'

New Order’s music may not immediately conjure up images of sand and sun.

But as of next week, Miami Beach will officially be home to the Manchester stalwarts. On Tuesday, the band begin what is believed to be its first-ever multi-day residency, at The Fillmore. The city will officially declare Wednesday “New Order Day.”

Speaking from dreary Manchester, band co-founder Stephen Morris said the answer to why New Order chose Miami is quite simple.

“Miami picked us,” Morris says. The band’s history here stretches back to at least 1989, and the city has been a must-include destination for subsequent tours — especially in recent years. New Order’s most recent set of band photos was taken in the Wynwood Arts District, Morris notes. And when the band were given the keys to Miami Beach last year, the bond was cemented.

Morris agreed that working in a band like New Order is somewhat akin to how work is generally treated in Miami: You try to make it as non-work-like as possible. (Asked what to call their profession, frontman Bernard Sumner once famously once referred to the band as “bank robbers.”) And as many a tourist has realized, there are few places one would rather work from if given the chance than the Magic City.

Though the band has released a new album in each of the past four decades — and if you count predecessor Joy Division, five — its business model is now heavily dependent on touring. That said, the band has briefly stormed back into the public consciousness thanks to the trailer for the next chapter of the Wonder Woman series, “Wonder Woman 1984” which features what Morris calls a “big” version of the band’s epoch-defining “Blue Monday.”

While Morris admits the band used to take advantage of Miami’s party scene more heartily, there remains plenty for a band in New Order’s current age bracket to do. Favorite spots include Wynwood, as well as The Wolfsonian-FIU Museum.

So what can listeners expect from the residency? Night one will resemble New Order’s most recent release, a live album cut from the gig’s 2017 set during the Manchester International Festival. Morris expects Night two to be mostly greatest hits.

And as for Friday and Saturday, both of which, as of Jan. 8, had sold out?

“Expect surprises,” Morris says.

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January 14th set: Setlist.fm

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Great show last night. Honestly, I don't know why they go back to this setlist more often. Even though there were a lot of deep cuts, a lot of people were singing along to them. Bernard even said after Guilt is a Useless Emotion, "that's a fun song isn't it? Why don't we play it more often?" Disorder, Shellshock, and Dream Attack got huge reactions. I hope this concert proved that they don't have to do the same setlist every time.

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January 14 review: Sun-Sentinel.com

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January 14 review: MiamiNewTimes

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Wax wrote: Great show last night. Honestly, I don't know why they go back to this setlist more often. Even though there were a lot of deep cuts, a lot of people were singing along to them. Bernard even said after Guilt is a Useless Emotion, "that's a fun song isn't it? Why don't we play it more often?" Disorder, Shellshock, and Dream Attack got huge reactions. I hope this concert proved that they don't have to do the same setlist every time.

It's ironic, because since it's pretty much the MIF setlist, with true faith, blue monday and temptation added.

That doesn't mean its the same setlist everytime, it's the same MIF setlist, so that's not really anything new either.

it's just that people over here finally get to see them play some of those songs (which isn't necessarily a good thing either).

later -1

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Touched By The Hand Of God!!! Any idea when that was played last?

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January 15 set: Setlist.fm

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50poundnote wrote: Touched By The Hand Of God!!! Any idea when that was played last?

Probably the 26th of July, 2013.

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I found a clip on Instagram. Sounds like they’ve gone back to the original arrangement, but spruced it up like Subculture.

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Great news on Touched By The Hand Of God. I know I'm in the minority, but I love that track.

Over two nights, they've played 27 different songs so far. Almost two completely different sets. Not half bad, New Order! Keep it up!

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Saw online that a fan met him and asked Bernard for Love Vigilantes this weekend. I hope they keep Age of Consent in there, and I'd rather have Ceremony than Transmission/Control. Isolation would be neat.

I wonder if the weekend surprises might include any guests? Brandon Flowers? Iggy Pop?

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Am glad to hear the return of Touched By The Hand Of God. There was a discussion regarding the song on the Salvation! thread about a year ago;

http://forums.neworderonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=4516#post28821

I have made a quick research on setlist.com and found it first played live at Nakano Sun Plaza, Tokyo, Jan 28, 1987 — I was there and the song was the show opener. Now I know I was a witness to its live debut. A little enlightenment.

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perspexorange wrote: Great news on Touched By The Hand Of God. I know I'm in the minority, but I love that track.

Over two nights, they've played 27 different songs so far. Almost two completely different sets. Not half bad, New Order! Keep it up!

I don’t think you are in a minority absolutely brilliant track

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The Japanese One wrote: Am glad to hear the return of Touched By The Hand Of God. There was a discussion regarding the song on the Salvation! thread about a year ago;

http://forums.neworderonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=4516#post28821

I have made a quick research on setlist.com and found it first played live at Nakano Sun Plaza, Tokyo, Jan 28, 1987 — I was there and the song was the show opener. Now I know I was a witness to its live debut. A little enlightenment.

This is also a good resource: Gigography

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Listening to 1st two performances of BLT, is there a guest vocalist on them?

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perspexorange wrote: Great news on Touched By The Hand Of God. I know I'm in the minority, but I love that track.

Not at all, one of my favourites.

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January 15 review: BocaMag.com

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prog99 wrote: Not at all, one of my favourites.

The Shadow wrote: I don’t think you are in a minority absolutely brilliant track

Glad I'm not alone. I got into the band around True Faith, so I was looking forward to a similar, hard-hitting follow-up and I wasn't disappointed with TBTHOG.

Here's an interesting fact about New Order and the sets they play:

Since the band reformed in 2011, they have played a total of 56 different songs (not including any covers, such as 'San Francisco', 'Shades', 'Be My Wife' etc.). Over the two Miami nights so far, they've played a total of 27 different songs out of 35 songs played in total (8 songs were played on both nights; BLT, BM, GIUE, LWTUA, Plastic, Sub-Culture, Temptation and TF).

So they still have a choice of 29 songs, that are in their current repertoire, that they could draw from for the two remaining gigs. Even if you factor in a few songs that they'll probably play on all three nights (Temptation, BLT, TF, BM, LWTUA etc.), they could easily fill the rest of the two sets with tracks from their 'current' repertoire (i.e. ones that have been played since 2011) and we'd have four very different nights.

The reason I mention this is that I was quite surprised. In my head, I've been of the opinion that the band aren't changing the set that much (which, I know, is partly true). But 56 different songs over 10 years ain't too bad for a band that, in theory, could just be giving us their 'greatest hits' and having us put up with that.

For information here's a list of post 2011 songs (29 in total) that the band haven't played in Miami yet:

1963 5-8-6 Behind Closed Doors Californian Grass Ceremony Close Range Crystal Elegia Here To Stay I'll Stay With You In A Lonely Place Isolation Krafty Lonesome Tonight Love Vigilantes People On The High Line Regret Round & Round Run Wild Shadowplay Singularity Stray Dog Superheated The Game The Perfect Kiss Thieves Like Us Times Change Waiting For The Sirens' Call World

The only downside in all this is the fact that, New Order could easily play all 56 songs that are in the current line-up over the four nights, without introducing any 'new old' songs (Everything's Gone Green, is the obvious one, for instance).

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They used Times Change as their walk-on music both nights. I even posted a link above. It’s not fair to say they’ve performed it, when it was performed by the synth orchestra before the band hit the stage during those gigs.

I don’t see them doing a proper full band performance. While I love the music and the chorus, the rapping verses have not aged well at all.

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Yeah - my bad. I missed that link. As they walked on to to the song, we can pretty much eliminate the track from getting a 'full band performance' at the next two shows.

Agreed with the band not really 'performing' the track at the MiF gigs, but I still class this as a 'live' version of the song as it was played 'live' on stage (as opposed to a recorded piece) and was performed by musicians who were integral to the whole project. Effectively, for those MiF gigs, the synth orchestra were part of the band.

I'm also in agreement about the rapping on Times Change sounding pretty dated. I was never a fan of the track anyway really. Although the music was good, the rapping always sounded a little bit rubbish to me (unlike Bernard's rapping on 'Idiot Country' two years previous, which I thought was great!).

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January 17 set: Setlist.fm

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Cheers Andy!

So, 'Ceremony', 'Superheated', 'World' & 'Superheated' are 'new' to the Miami gigs.

31 different songs played over 3 nights and counting...

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perspexorange wrote: Cheers Andy!

So, 'Ceremony', 'Superheated', 'World' & 'Superheated' are 'new' to the Miami gigs.

31 different songs played over 3 nights and counting...

Reason for edit?

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50poundnote wrote: They used Times Change as their walk-on music both nights. I even posted a link above. It’s not fair to say they’ve performed it, when it was performed by the synth orchestra before the band hit the stage during those gigs.

I don’t see them doing a proper full band performance. While I love the music and the chorus, the rapping verses have not aged well at all.

I went to the gig on the 14th and the back drop to Times Change was shots of Miami from years gone by, it really got the atmosphere going. That's the first time Ive seen the band abroad and didn't know what to expect atmosphere wise but it turned out to be superb, no pogoing but wall to wall dancing. I had a great time.

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The break down by album for the "tour" is here:

https://www.setlist.fm/stats/albums/new-order-63d6b237.html?tour=63d1a22f

So far

Substance 1987 Blue Monday (3) Temptation (3) True Faith (3) Shellshock (1) Ceremony (1)

Joy Division Love Will Tear Us Apart (3) Decades (2) Transmission (2) Atmosphere (1) Disorder (1) Heart and Soul (1) She's Lost Control (1)

Music Complete Plastic (3) Tutti Frutti (1) Academic (1) People on the High Line (1) Superheated (1) Restless (1)

Power, Corruption & Lies Age of Consent (2) Your Silent Face (2) Ultraviolence (1)

Brotherhood Bizarre Love Triangle (3) All Day Long (1)

Technique Fine Time (2) Dream Attack (1) Vanishing Point (1)

Waiting for the Sirens' Call Guilt Is a Useless Emotion (3) Who's Joe? (1)

Low-Life Subculture (3)

Republic World (1)

Others Touched by the Hand of God (1)

So nothing from Get Ready (expect Crystal tonight?) and nothing from Movement (no surprise there - yet SM promised "surprises....)

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January 18 set: Setlist.fm

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Andy wrote:

perspexorange wrote: Cheers Andy!

So, 'Ceremony', 'Superheated', 'World' & 'Superheated' are 'new' to the Miami gigs.

31 different songs played over 3 nights and counting...

Reason for edit?

We know you meant People on the High Line.

You can now add The Perfect Kiss, Regret and Turn My Way to the Miami tally.

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Interesting that they sound checked with Perfect Kiss for last nights gig but didn't include it in the set?

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Andy wrote:

Reason for edit?

I'm not sure I did, did I?

Andy wrote:

We know you meant People on the High Line.

You can now add Regret and Turn My Way to the Miami tally.

Yep - my bad. You know, I read those four tracks I listed three times and still couldn't see the duplication. Weird. I blame my hangover this morning...

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Andy wrote:

You can now add Regret and Turn My Way to the Miami tally.

surface wrote: Interesting that they sound checked with Perfect Kiss for last nights gig but didn't include it in the set?

According to the setlist Andy posted, they did play TPK.

So 34 tracks over 4 nights in total. That's really, very, very good. Anyone who went to every night will have been suitably rewarded.

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perspexorange wrote:

Andy wrote:

You can now add Regret and Turn My Way to the Miami tally.

surface wrote: Interesting that they sound checked with Perfect Kiss for last nights gig but didn't include it in the set?

According to the setlist Andy posted, they did play TPK.

So 34 tracks over 4 nights in total. That's really, very, very good. Anyone who went to every night will have been suitably rewarded.

Ah yes, I saw a tweet of a set list and assumed it was last nights but it was actually Fridays.

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Oh, Turn My Way. When I first read that earlier on i read it as Turn, from WFTSC. Blame the hangover. Turn would have been a bit of a surprise but Turn My Way is an even bigger surprise. I’m guessing Billy Corgan didn’t make a guest appearance.So am assuming Bernard sang all the lyrics.

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perspexorange wrote:

So 34 tracks over 4 nights in total. That's really, very, very good. Anyone who went to every night will have been suitably rewarded.

Pretty good going really - I take back all I said :)

Final Tally:

Joy Division Love Will Tear Us Apart (4) Decades (2) Transmission (2) Atmosphere (2) Disorder (2) Heart and Soul (1) She's Lost Control (1)

Movement Nothing!

Power, Corruption & Lies Age of Consent (3) Your Silent Face (3) Ultraviolence (1)

Low-Life Subculture (4) The Perfect Kiss (1)

Brotherhood Bizarre Love Triangle (4) All Day Long (1)

Substance 1987 Blue Monday (4) Temptation (4) True Faith (4) Shellshock (1) Ceremony (1)

Technique Fine Time (2) Dream Attack (1) Vanishing Point (1)

Republic World (2) Regret (1)

Get Ready Turn My Way (1)

Waiting for the Sirens' Call Guilt Is a Useless Emotion (4) Who's Joe? (1)

Music Complete Plastic (4) Tutti Frutti (2) Academic (1) People on the High Line (1) Superheated (1) Restless (1)

Others Touched by the Hand of God (1)

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The Singing Detective wrote: Oh, Turn My Way. When I first read that earlier on i read it as Turn, from WFTSC. Blame the hangover. Turn would have been a bit of a surprise but Turn My Way is an even bigger surprise. I’m guessing Billy Corgan didn’t make a guest appearance.So am assuming Bernard sang all the lyrics.

There's a Get Ready demo of just Bernard singing Turn My Way. It works well, fwiw

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Haven't had time to watch this yet, but there's 2h43m video of footage from the four gigs, along with the New Order Day Ceremony and meeting Sumner etc. on YouTube. Looks pretty good from the clips I've seen.

You can find it here:

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perspexorange wrote:

Andy wrote:

Reason for edit?

I'm not sure I did, did I?

Andy wrote:

We know you meant People on the High Line.

You can now add Regret and Turn My Way to the Miami tally.

Yep - my bad. You know, I read those four tracks I listed three times and still couldn't see the duplication. Weird. I blame my hangover this morning...

I was predicting you would edit the post.

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Andy wrote:

I was predicting you would edit the post.

Ah. Got ya. [:)]

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Residency review: LouderThanWar.com

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Due to having some issues logging into this site on my phone while I was over there (and it eating up data at a frightening rate) I haven't had a chance to comment on this until now. Just like I suspected, it wasn't an amazing difference to the show I saw them play in Paris, so I'm glad I didn't fork out for more than one show (someone I was talking in the bar at the Delano where I was staying while over there was trying to persuade me to go and get a ticket for the Saturday show as well but they were talking about paying a couple of hundred dollars to do so and that was never going to happen) All the band seemed to really be enjoying themselves (although I was in the second level pit and couldn't get a decent view of Stephen from where I was stood)

A couple of gripes: having to pay $17 for a pint of beer (I don't want to taste Monk In A Trunk again for the rest of my days), the epic queues for the merchandise stand (I wanted to get one of the white New Order Miami t-shirts but didn't want to spend all night lining up for one, and by the time he band were due to go onstage, the queue was no better and only had them left in 3XL which would be like a smock on me so I left it, Arthur Bakers 2 DJ sets either sided of Rockers Revenge were a bit...[:|] (I'm still undecided on Rockers Revenge themselves, I liked Walking On Sunshine but the rest of it was all a bit Americas Got Talent to be honest)

I'm glad I went (some of the locals couldn't believe I'd flown all that way to see New Order), and hopefully some UK shows will follow before the end of the year.

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Ken Doherty wrote: A couple of gripes: having to pay $17 for a pint of beer (I don't want to taste Monk In A Trunk again for the rest of my days), the epic queues for the merchandise stand (I wanted to get one of the white New Order Miami t-shirts but didn't want to spend all night lining up for one, and by the time he band were due to go onstage, the queue was no better and only had them left in 3XL which would be like a smock on me so I left it, Arthur Bakers 2 DJ sets either sided of Rockers Revenge were a bit...[:|] (I'm still undecided on Rockers Revenges themselves, I liked Walking On Sunshine but the rest of it was all a bit Americas Got Talent to be honest).

Yeah, beer was ridiculously dear in there. I bought one round for $133 on the Friday night! Ouch [blackeye]

Only time I chanced the merchandising queue was the very first night - and in the middle of the set! - and then only for a t-shirt for a mate I'd promised back home. That military green one with the US flag which, in fairness, is absolutely gorgeous.

Biggest 'surprise' of the week was Guilt featuring every single night. But then, Barney said something I didn't quite catch on the 2nd night about them only usually playing it at MIF and it moving into the regular set. I guess the band enjoy playing it? In fairness, it boasted way more bass from Tom than ever made it to record so sounded better than I remember.

Good to see Touched again - that was a bolt from the blue! Shame we only got it once. Shame also, as they'd obviously put some effort into a video to accompany it.

Turn My Way was an interesting choice as well.

Loved Miami though. Was good to get away for sun so early in the year!

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Love turn my way glad it’s being played again, a hidden gem,

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Ken Doherty wrote: Due to having some issues logging into this site on my phone while I was over there (and it eating up data at a frightening rate) I haven't had a chance to comment on this until now. Just like I suspected, it wasn't an amazing difference to the show I saw them play in Paris, so I'm glad I didn't fork out for more than one show (someone I was talking in the bar at the Delano where I was staying while over there was trying to persuade me to go and get a ticket for the Saturday show as well but they were talking about paying a couple of hundred dollars to do so and that was never going to happen) All the band seemed to really be enjoying themselves (although I was in the second level pit and couldn't get a decent view of Stephen from where I was stood)

A couple of gripes: having to pay $17 for a pint of beer (I don't want to taste Monk In A Trunk again for the rest of my days), the epic queues for the merchandise stand (I wanted to get one of the white New Order Miami t-shirts but didn't want to spend all night lining up for one, and by the time he band were due to go onstage, the queue was no better and only had them left in 3XL which would be like a smock on me so I left it, Arthur Bakers 2 DJ sets either sided of Rockers Revenge were a bit...[:|] (I'm still undecided on Rockers Revenges themselves, I liked Walking On Sunshine but the rest of it was all a bit Americas Got Talent to be honest)

I'm glad I went (some of the locals couldn't believe I'd flown all that way to see New Order), and hopefully some UK shows will follow before the end of the year.

With regards to merch, a link to it went up on the NO Instagram page on Friday: no sign of the aforementioned white t-shirts, but looking at the green ones (which I didn't see on sale the night I went), the tshirt was about $20 but they wanted well over $50 to ship it to the UK, so at that price they can bugger right off, that s just taking the piss, unless one of the band is going to hand deliver it to me.

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Ken Doherty wrote:

Ken Doherty wrote: Due to having some issues logging into this site on my phone while I was over there (and it eating up data at a frightening rate) I haven't had a chance to comment on this until now. Just like I suspected, it wasn't an amazing difference to the show I saw them play in Paris, so I'm glad I didn't fork out for more than one show (someone I was talking in the bar at the Delano where I was staying while over there was trying to persuade me to go and get a ticket for the Saturday show as well but they were talking about paying a couple of hundred dollars to do so and that was never going to happen) All the band seemed to really be enjoying themselves (although I was in the second level pit and couldn't get a decent view of Stephen from where I was stood)

A couple of gripes: having to pay $17 for a pint of beer (I don't want to taste Monk In A Trunk again for the rest of my days), the epic queues for the merchandise stand (I wanted to get one of the white New Order Miami t-shirts but didn't want to spend all night lining up for one, and by the time he band were due to go onstage, the queue was no better and only had them left in 3XL which would be like a smock on me so I left it, Arthur Bakers 2 DJ sets either sided of Rockers Revenge were a bit...[:|] (I'm still undecided on Rockers Revenges themselves, I liked Walking On Sunshine but the rest of it was all a bit Americas Got Talent to be honest)

I'm glad I went (some of the locals couldn't believe I'd flown all that way to see New Order), and hopefully some UK shows will follow before the end of the year.

With regards to merch, a link to it went up on the NO Instagram page on Friday: no sign of the aforementioned white t-shirts, but looking at the green ones (which I didn't see on sale the night I went), the tshirt was about $20 but they wanted well over $50 to ship it to the UK, so at that price they can bugger right off, that s just taking the piss, unless one of the band is going to hand deliver it to me.

A nice thought.

Not so nice: There are better odds of Michael Monkhouse hand delivering over a picture of Sporty Spice.

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