The O2 - London - 10.10.2020

NewOrder

Cheers Andy!

Only UK gig of 2020. Bah! That's annoying. I think I'll have to go then.

I’ll be there. But one gig?

I'll see how much tickets are before committing to this : I don't want to do standing but if the blocks nearest the side of the stage are reasonably priced, I'm in there (Radiohead in 2012 was very reasonably priced for an arena show , but Depeche Mode the last time they played there was ridiculously expensive): I just don't like the standing area in the O2, it is usually full of people who only seem to be there to get pissed on vastly overpriced Budweiser, talk shit all the way through the headliners set, take blurry selfies of themselves and their mates and film vast swathes of the show from miles back on their phones (I have a feeling Madison Square Garden will be exactly the same so probably for the best I can't afford the costs of a trip to NYC for that).

Hmm... can New Order fill a 20,000 venue in the UK? Don’t think they’ve ever played a capacity that size in uk even back in their late 80s prime. Wembley Arena 87 (12,000 ?)was maybe their biggest (2006 half the place was curtained off after not selliing nearly enough tickets). Funny thing is they probably could sell out a venue of 20,000 in other countries like the U.S. but here in UK?

Mind you, gig goers are more enthusiastic about attending gigs than they were some years ago and New Order’s live reputation among the wider public has improved massively over recent years.

They may have to heavily advertise this one though.

Not sure I’ll bother but I’ll see.

Agree this does see, a massive venue for them to fill. I think Jodrell Bank in 2013 was 10000 people as I think Ali Pali is, there the 2 biggest gigs I’ve seen new order play along with NEC way back.

I was going to stand, never been to this venue before, is standing as bad as the previous comments, what’s the view like standing? If I do sit do most people still stand as I’m not a fan sitting at gigs particularly new order.

Finsbury park was their gig and sold around 25000?

Not sure i can be bothered with this one either...don't fancy the 02 at all

lee wrote: Finsbury park was their gig and sold around 25000?

Not sure i can be bothered with this one either...don't fancy the 02 at all

I forgot about that one. Never went to that gig but have the DVD. I’m sure there are others.

I know I moaned about standing in the O2 but I bit the bullet and booked standing in the O2 Priority presale this afternoon: 'only £65.50' per ticket. I didn't want to pay any more than that so I am reasonably happy (I just need to remember not to get too pissed in any of the other bars in the O2 and get in at a reasonable time so I don't end up right at the back).

Where can I buy pre-sale tickets ? Will these be cheaper or more expensive than the standard ones being released on Friday?

perspexorange wrote: Where can I buy pre-sale tickets ? Will these be cheaper or more expensive than the standard ones being released on Friday?

I got mine because O2 is my phone provider, the only other pre-sale codes I have seen online are for the US shows, sorry.

Thanks. I guess I'll have to wait until tomorrow.

I'm sure they won't sell out, but I don't want to have to sit down at a New Order gig. I did that at the Olympia gig in 2001 and it was no fun at all (although, on the positive side, we were sitting pretty close to Gillian, who was in the audience having just left the band).

perspexorange wrote: Thanks. I guess I'll have to wait until tomorrow.

I'm sure they won't sell out, but I don't want to have to sit down at a New Order gig.

Back in 2018 I saw The Chemical Brothers at Ally Pally and then a month later I saw NO at Ally Pally.

About 3 months ago (30th Nov) the Chems played the O2. When they first announced the gig I thought: that's gonna be too big for them, I should be able to get last minute standing tickets if I wanna go. Standing tickets sold out in under two hours.

I kinda feel like NO have followed the Chems from Ally Pally to the O2. I was checking the Twickets website in the week prior to the Chems gig last November, confident there would be lots of cheap tickets washing around (even if not standing). I was wrong. I didn't go.

Here in San Francisco they've gone from:

The Fox in 2011 (2,800 - sold out in a day) The Bill Graham Civic Auditorium in 2014 (8,500) Berkeley's Greek Theater 2017 (8,500) Chase Center 2020 (18,000)

New Order is a huge draw in the Bay Area, and paired with Pet Shop Boys, I bet they come close to selling out. I know during the presale nearly all the floor and a chunk of lower area has gone.

I think their reputation as a live act has continued to climb, and they're finally reaching "that level."

50poundnote wrote: Here in San Francisco they've gone from:

The Fox in 2011 (2,800 - sold out in a day) The Bill Graham Civic Auditorium in 2014 (8,500) Berkeley's Greek Theater 2017 (8,500) Chase Center 2020 (18,000)

New Order is a huge draw in the Bay Area, and paired with Pet Shop Boys, I bet they come close to selling out. I know during the presale nearly all the floor and a chunk of lower area has gone.

I think their reputation as a live act has continued to climb, and they're finally reaching "that level."

Certainly have moved on from the Market Street Cinema and The I-Beam in 1981.

Ticket purchased. Standing room.

£69 including various booking fees.

I thought you meant on O2 gig. They bullshat about touring to MM in 93. Fuck the USA. More Italy gigs, please. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8jca8ZATfA

Michael Monkhouse wrote: I thought you meant on O2 gig. They bullshat about touring to MM in 93. Fuck the USA. More Italy gigs, please. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8jca8ZATfA

Bound to happen.

lee wrote: Finsbury park was their gig and sold around 25000?

Oh yeah forgot about that one .Also MEN Arena Dec 98.Didn't realise capacity there is 15,000 or so.Didn't think it was that big the couple of times i've been .Although there was support from the likes of Underworld who were also pretty big at that time and they actually played after NO.The only reason i know MEN Arena holds 15,000 is it was mentioned in ab article today about a new concert arena in Manchester with a 23,500 capacity was announced today.

Andy wrote:

Michael Monkhouse wrote: I thought you meant on O2 gig. They bullshat about touring to MM in 93. Fuck the USA. More Italy gigs, please. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8jca8ZATfA

Bound to happen.

In the words of Alan Partridge, get your own catchphrase. In a MM interview for The Other Goo and Pooh, they talked about touring, but Steve has a thing about singing drummers and Gillian 'would have to gert used to the mic.' Typical bolleau but I share because I am good.

Its been moved to 6th November 2021.

Gutted it’s cancelled but not surprised. It is looking like autumn 2021 may be the earliest large concerts are going to be allowed. Going to see The Jesus and Mary Chain do darklands but that has been moved to feb 2021 I’m now thinking that may be too early for gigs. We’ll see

Ken Doherty wrote:

Its been moved to 6th November 2021.

Good luck with that.

Disappointing, but not surprising.

Support act for the O2 confirmed as Fujiya and Miyagi: I have only heard a couple of their songs, one of which is their cover of Your Silent Face on the Mojo album of covers of Power, Corruption and Lies that came out 9 years ago (I didn't know they were still going, to be honest).

Ken Doherty wrote:

Support act for the O2 confirmed as Fujiya and Miyagi: I have only heard a couple of their songs, one of which is their cover of Your Silent Face on the Mojo album of covers of Power, Corruption and Lies that came out 9 years ago (I didn't know they were still going, to be honest).

Their track Daggers was remixed by Stephen Morris in late 2014 and released at the same time as (but not officially part of) Record Store Day in April 2015:

Soundcloud

I tried and failed to buy it on vinyl at the time. I asked F&M on twitter why I couldn't get it. They replied there was a problem with the pressing plant. David from the band took my address and personally signed and mailed a copy of the 12" to me for free! What a nice chap!

I think they was the first support at the castlefield bowl gig a few years back

It was honking down so i stayed in a pub but caught lonelady who was also on

The show is going to be livestreamed, info here:

https://www.axs.com/uk/events/415924/new-order-live-stream-tickets

lee wrote: I think they was the first support at the castlefield bowl gig a few years back

It was honking down so i stayed in a pub but caught lonelady who was also on

Yes that is correct as I was there too. Caught there last couple of records and all of lonelady excellent set. Can’t believe that was 5 years ago!

aysie wrote: The show is going to be livestreamed, info here:

https://www.axs.com/uk/events/415924/new-order-live-stream-tickets

I will probably do it but the ticket price seems high to me.

Andy wrote:

aysie wrote: The show is going to be livestreamed, info here:

https://www.axs.com/uk/events/415924/new-order-live-stream-tickets

I will probably do it but the ticket price seems high to me.

£16.50 for a live stream - i dunno. It feels high but probably...isn't? Luckily we're away so I don't have to agonise over the decision, and it's a fair bet that someone will capture the stream for posterity

and the chances of it being anything more than the same as the Piece Hall setlist is slim

Do we know what time no are on stage ?

20:45 GMT, so they probably hit the stage at 21:00.

I'm assuming this does not include the opening acts.

Flew in from LA for this event. Anyone meeting up?

Hmm, I enjoyed it but it was a pretty bog standard New Order show. I was disappointed that World and Fine Time have been shelved already, to be replaced with Be A Rebel and 1963 (heres hoping BaR doesn't get played again live for a long, long time, its so nondescript its more like something off Lost Sirens than something that should played along the likes of True Faith and Temptation).

I'm not sure what Bernards little speech about it being 'real music' was all about , surely he realises that these days, the kind of people that buy/stream the type of stuff that is in the single charts don't know who New Order are, and wouldn't be bothered about discovering them? The O2 did seem to be pretty full, but I would hope that any future shows (in this country anyway), are played in venues a bit more modest.

Ken Doherty wrote:

Hmm, I enjoyed it but it was a pretty bog standard New Order show. I was disappointed that World and Fine Time have been shelved already, to be replaced with Be A Rebel and 1963 (heres hoping BaR doesn't get played again live for a long, long time, its so nondescript its more like something off Lost Sirens than something that should played along the likes of True Faith and Temptation).

I'm not sure what Bernards little speech about it being 'real music' was all about , surely he realises that these days, the kind of people that buy/stream the type of stuff that is in the single charts don't know who New Order are, and wouldn't be bothered about discovering them? The O2 did seem to be pretty full, but I would hope that any future shows (in this country anyway), are played in venues a bit more modest.

Agree with above in the main (although I don’t mind BAR being in the set nothing from technique in the set again, I was hoping for fine time). Decent but no surprises and an awful venue. Will never go there again. Heaton park was far better