Are Lyrics Important?

Originally posted by Patrick > Originally posted by Huntsman> I 'reckon he's living in the French forum for good, occassionally coming out to say hello. Its upsetting I think, as the whole gangs in on this thread which is beautiful.> > Snake... the comment about Soviet does a disservice to Woolies, for £5.99 you can get a far superior sound quality.> >

I can't even remember which one Soviet is, and the lyrics are missing here. Can you remind me, Huntsy?

It's the shit thing without any lyrics

Originally posted by Shug I go along with the first few posts - because the music is that good - the lyrics don't bother me that much. It's usually some knobend at work who slags the lyrics - and when you try to explain why New Order are so far above everyone else - with their illustrious history and their beliefs - all you get is...well how many Number 1's did they have It's these ignorant fuckers that really get on my tits, if it was all about Number 1's and getting as high up in the charts as you can - why fucking bother?When you've got some twat who can get to Number 1 - by recording a "song" from his fucking bedroom - is this what it's all about?.....don't fucking think so

Nice one Shugster, I knew I could rely on you

Sorry guys, I don't post much on either forum right now (french or english). Well, I'd rather say 'as much", seeing as my post count still goes up and, right now, it's mainly because of the English one.

But work don't leave me a lot of space right now to post and this week I'm sick as hell and my vision is blurred, can't hardly read the other's posts...

Thanks for the concern anyway...

And, by the way, I like the live version of "We All Stare" on PFD...

Originally posted by Buster Klumpy But work don't leave me a lot of space right now to post and this week I'm sick as hell and my vision is blurred, can't hardly read the other's posts...Thanks for the concern anyway...

Sounds a bit dodge mate :(. get well soon anyway ;)

Have you been to a doctor, Klumpy? One time I had double vision and it turned out to be meningitis.

Forgive me for rudely interrupting, but...

isnt NO's appeal largely down to Barneys enigmatic lyrics and delivery? Part of their huge appeal is that they dont 'sound' like other bands. So what if the lyrics are a few verses short of a chorus ( !) sometimes less is more - draw your own conclusions to what he is gettin at in the lyrics and you wont be disappointed. :)

Well yes, Inta Don, the delivery is VERY important. Every time I hear Bono wailing away, I think this is why I love NO.

Thanks for the kind words, everyone. I'm going to the doctor in a few hours (couldn't get an apoitment sooner)...

As for the lyrics, I don't care that much because English isn't my language.

I know this is a very important factor because crap French lyrics can really get on my nerves...

Originally posted by Buster Klumpy Thanks for the kind words, everyone.I'm going to the doctor in a few hours (couldn't get an apoitment sooner)...

Buster if you were in this country (UK), you'd have to wait weeks to see a doctor!!

Originally posted by Muffy > Originally posted by Buster Klumpy> Thanks for the kind words, everyone.> I'm going to the doctor in a few hours (couldn't get an apoitment sooner)...

Buster if you were in this country (UK), you'd have to wait weeks to see a doctor!!

And then they'd give you the wrong diagnosis

Nice country you have...

I thought the common practice was to prescribe a course of antibiotics, then when they don't work,refer you to a specialist,you wait 4 months for an appointment, by which time you either get better or are rushed into casualty, I say rushed, there's not much point rushing, as you'll still have to wait 10 hours to be seen, I'm gonna change my name to M. Gray today.

Originally posted by Hank Wiseass© I thought the common practice was to prescribe a course of antibiotics, then when they don't work,refer you to a specialist,you wait 4 months for an appointment, by which time you either get better or are rushed into casualty, I say rushed, there's not much point rushing, as you'll still have to wait 10 hours to be seen,

.....while you wait in the cold on a trolley!!

worst thing about it is paying a couple of hundred quid National Insurance, every bastard month, without a choice, when you know youre just going to end up with a shite service if a service at all. i've not actually visited a quacks for over 3 years and am not signed up to one at the mo. Yet I'm still paying tonnes of my hard earned dosh so it can go towards compensation claims coz the Docs haven't been trained properly in the fucking first place. Makes me very angry.

Oi Briggsy, if you're paying a couple of hundred quid a month NI you must be taking home over £2000.00 go private ya cunt.

Originally posted by Hank Wiseass© Oi Briggsy, if you're paying a couple of hundred quid a month NI you must be taking home over £2000.00 go private ya cunt.

have you ever tried livin' in London mate? I'm a lucky bastard, my rent is only £400 a month, and that based in Elephant and Castle which is about on a par with Peckham - sharing a house with 4 other people. then you've got the £80 a month travel card, the Student loans, the extortionate council tax, etc etc

It aint quite £200 quid I pay either, I was exaggerating for effect.

Let's get this straight... is Buster seeing a doctor the same day he realised he was ill?... how unfair is that?

In the UK its easier getting into Lord of the Rings 2 weeks before premier night.

:hat"

Let's get this straight... is Buster seeing a doctor the same day he realised he was ill?... how unfair is that?

In the UK its easier getting into Lord of the Rings 2 weeks before premier night.

He sounds like he's whinging that he's had to wait for a couple of hours

Originally posted by Seb Briggs > Originally posted by Hank Wiseass©> Oi Briggsy, if you're paying a couple of hundred quid a month NI you must be taking home over £2000.00 go private ya cunt.

have you ever tried livin' in London mate? I'm a lucky bastard, my rent is only £400 a month, and that based in Elephant and Castle which is about on a par with Peckham - sharing a house with 4 other people. then you've got the £80 a month travel card, the Student loans, the extortionate council tax, etc etc

It aint quite £200 quid I pay either, I was exaggerating for effect.

Well as long as you where exaggerating for effect Snakey, I'll gladly let you continue to fight it out with us proles for err, non-existant health care.

Originally posted by Seb Briggs He sounds like he's whinging that he's had to wait for a couple of hours

I wasn't whining, Seb, just telling. I guess, judging from what you're all telling, we're pretty lucky, here, in Belgium...

Originally posted by Patrick Good lyrics are not necessary for a good song, but good lyrics can be an enhancement, and NO have been capable of memorable lyrics. Leave Me Alone wouldn't be the same without the lyrics. Temptation wouldn't be the same without "Oh, you've got green eyes" etc. Face Up wouldn't be the same without "Guess what I'm gonna do to you." I've recently several times mentioned "You search your empty brain in vain" from This Time of Night. "It's never enough until your heart stops beating" from Shellshock. The lyrics are very important to Close Range.I could go on and on. So I disagree, Seb.

have to agree almost word for word with patrick True Faith lyrics also...could probably find dozens more, but maybe its just New Order???

Thanks Jim.

i agree with patrick on this. are lyrics important? yes and no! ridin' fences all day.

Buster, We All Stand is a great performance on PFD. We should try to get to the bottom of the Close Range lyrics soon. I think they are very interesting. As for the lyrics in general, i feel like barney's relying too heavily on chorus' and obvious rhymes. songs in the good ole days didn't necessarily repeat the chorus over and over and every line didn't rhyme. you can guess the song titles now adays by listening to the chorus and nothing else. why did they change Dream On to Close Range? And Run this River DRy to Sabotage? Probably so they could keep from having every song title in the lyrics. Barney's lost his edge for song writing. he used to pull out the Enigmatic lyrics (low-life is the best for lyrics) and now it's all "i'll be there for you when you want me to, i'll stand by your side like i always do, in the dead of night it wll be alright, cuz i'll be there for you when you want me too" it's catchy but stupid like so many of the new songs. Why do they write stadium rock now? will they tour with U2 because Boner likes LWTUA? Barney already has the "Thank You ---insert town name here---" down and Hooky would wet himself to strut in front of the audience The Edge gets to enjoy. If they do, they should wear their Touched costumes and find sponsorship with Geritol and Pop Tarts (sugar frosting).

I agree some of the lyrics on Grrready are pretty lax, i mean even the acclaimed Crystal bemuses me...

"Here comes love, it's like honey you can't buy it with money," what the bloody hell is all that about!??? just go down your local deli or tesco's for a jar of honey mate :)

something more like - 'here comes love, its not funny when you buy it with money' would have been more suitable perhaps..?

C'mon Barney wheres that jagged knife gone you used to cut your lyrics on...?