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ShugZV© wrote:

Patrick wrote: Actually higher than I expected

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/chart/albums.shtml

Patsy - please add the url bits before and after, you know how fookin lazy I am!

Number 5? Not bad, was kinda hoping they'd hit the top spot like Technique tho!

Sorry, Shug, my computer skills are somewhat limited, you know. When I was growing up, we didn't even have telephones.

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Somebody who has the power might want to put this on the front page.

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Patrick wrote:

ShugZV© wrote:

Patrick wrote: Actually higher than I expected

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/chart/albums.shtml

Patsy - please add the url bits before and after, you know how fookin lazy I am!

Number 5? Not bad, was kinda hoping they'd hit the top spot like Technique tho!

Sorry, Shug, my computer skills are somewhat limited, you know. When I was growing up, we didn't even have telephones.

Telephones? We lived in a cardboard box int middle of road.....24 of us. :thumb:

I'll get me coat.

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ShugZV© wrote:

Patrick wrote:

ShugZV© wrote:

Patrick wrote: Actually higher than I expected

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/chart/albums.shtml

Patsy - please add the url bits before and after, you know how fookin lazy I am!

Number 5? Not bad, was kinda hoping they'd hit the top spot like Technique tho!

Sorry, Shug, my computer skills are somewhat limited, you know. When I was growing up, we didn't even have telephones.

Telephones? We lived in a cardboard box int middle of road.....24 of us. :thumb:

I'll get me coat.

Sounds cozy. :)

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Patrick wrote: Sorry, Shug, my computer skills are somewhat limited, you know. When I was growing up, we didn't even have telephones.

How did you phone for pizza?

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The next highest new release is # 15. Is that typical? Normally in the US charts, new releases are more dominant.

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WFTSC debuts at number 15 in Australia:

www.aria.com.au

Krafty doesn't seem to have cracked the fifty, not surprising given the lack of radio support here.

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depthcharge wrote:

Patrick wrote: Sorry, Shug, my computer skills are somewhat limited, you know. When I was growing up, we didn't even have telephones.

How did you phone for pizza?

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Well, it's good to see you, DC. It's been somewhat sparse here today.

We generally didn't phone for pizza; usually we rode the mule to the pizza parlor.

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According to IRMA, it got to:

Microsoft OLE DB Provider for ODBC Drivers error '80004005'

Oh, don't you just *love* Windows....

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Rode the mule, eh ...

Animal humour Patsy? You filling the void today?

You do seem to be more than a one trick pony, or mule, as the case may be.

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goldendiscs.ie have it as #19 in Ireland, and the main banner advert on the website was for the album...

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I believe H generally chooses smaller animals, DC.

I try to be versatile, DC, but I can only apply the abilities I was born with.

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Actually he has embraced the mule a few times recently, although I think he was trying to regain some marketshare from The True Huntsman's geese.

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Patrick wrote: We generally didn't phone for pizza; usually we rode the mule to the pizza parlor.

I meant to ask earlier: what kind of pizza did the mule favour, P?

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depthcharge wrote: Actually he has embraced the mule a few times recently, although I think he was trying to regain some marketshare from The True Huntsman's geese.

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I wonder what TTH is doing today?

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depthcharge wrote:

Patrick wrote: We generally didn't phone for pizza; usually we rode the mule to the pizza parlor.

I meant to ask earlier: what kind of pizza did the mule favour, P?

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The whole family generally preferred pepperoni, DC. Doesn't everyone?

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I only ask because last time I offered a slice of pepperoni to a mule he just gave me a long face.

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depthcharge wrote: I only ask because last time I offered a slice of pepperoni to a mule he just gave me a long face.

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How long ago was that, DC? Mules are much more sophisticated than they used to be, you know.

By the way, DC, I've been meaning to ask you, and now seems like a good time, since we're alone, can you tell us something about yourself? Nothing too personal of course, just anything you'd care to share. I feel as though I know very little about you, apart from the fact that you live in Western Australia.

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Forum sure seems lonely currently. I just saw a tumbleweed fly past.

Actually I was just trying to fathom quite how a topical discussion of NO chart positions transformed into a mule's favourite pizza topping in under 20 posts, all without the involvement of a certain someone.

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depthcharge wrote: Forum sure seems lonely currently. I just saw a tumbleweed fly past.

Actually I was just trying to fathom quite how a topical discussion of NO chart positions transformed into a mule's favourite pizza topping in under 20 posts, all without the involvement of a certain someone.

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Do I detect a certain reluctance to reveal yourself, DC?

Just one tiny little thing about yourself, DC, anything you choose.

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depthcharge wrote: Don't mind New Order.

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What's your favorite pizza topping?

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Urm, Mule pizza toppings aside...

Well done New Order :clap: They've both artistically and critically beaten Get Ready which is excellent news for us fans as it means they'll keep making records and gigging. They could have so easily faded away as a poor Joy Division covers band as most of Get Ready sounded, but WTFSC is pure New Order with actual "tunes" this time and above all, no "Slow Jams".

Looking forward to album #9 :hat:

Ally.

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Do you mean the actual topping style or just one favourite ingredient? All this intrusion is unnerving me.

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Ally3000 wrote: Urm, Mule pizza toppings aside...

Well done New Order :clap: They've both artistically and critically beaten Get Ready which is excellent news for us fans as it means they'll keep making records and gigging. They could have so easily faded away as a poor Joy Division covers band as most of Get Ready sounded, but WTFSC is pure New Order with actual "tunes" this time and above all, no "Slow Jams".

Looking forward to album #9 :hat:

Ally.

Slow Jam was pretty much a career low point, wasn't it?

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depthcharge wrote: Do you mean the actual topping style or just one favourite ingredient? All this intrusion is unnerving me.

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Favorite ingredient, DC. It's not a hard question.

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depthcharge wrote: Cheese?

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Just to make sure I understand correctly, DC, you prefer your pizza with no toppings other than cheese? No pepperoni, no sausage, no mushrooms, no onions, no green peppers? Have I got it right?

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Well no, you just asked for one ingredient. Cheese just seems to be the common denominator on all my preferred pizzas. I do like other gear on there too.

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As wildly enthralling as this thread is now becoming for outsiders P, I've got a bad feeling about it. Not too dissimilar from the previous two threads that were running when the whole house of cards collapsed.

They sure exceeded my expectations with a debut at #5. I'd expect the album to have more legs than GR, given the upcoming two singles. This is all great in the scheme of things - chart success breeds more albums and more touring. Pretty much what we all want, I'd expect.

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depthcharge wrote: Well no, you just asked for one ingredient. Cheese just seems to be the common denominator on all my preferred pizzas. I do like other gear on there too.

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This particular line of inquiry doesn't seem to be leading anywhere.

So I'll try something else.

Do you mind, DC, if I ask why you call yourself "depthcharge"?

And to forestall further delaying tactics, if you don't mind my asking, why do you call yourself "depthcharge"?

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Now the big question is... can they keep in there?

I doubt it... but I'd love it... but due to Krafty not being aired by Radio 1, I doubt it...

Maybe Jetstream will put it back in the Top 20... :scratch:

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depthcharge wrote: As wildly enthralling as this thread is now becoming for outsiders P, I've got a bad feeling about it. Not too dissimilar from the previous two threads that were running when the whole house of cards collapsed.

They sure exceeded my expectations with a debut at #5. I'd expect the album to have more legs than GR, given the upcoming two singles. This is all great in the scheme of things - chart success breeds more albums and more touring. Pretty much what we all want, I'd expect.

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I hadn't read this when I posted my last. Never mind about my questions, DC. Perhaps another time.

Yes, I was quite pleased with # 5. I feared worse.

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Spotnick wrote: Now the big question is... can they keep in there?

I doubt it... but I'd love it... but due to Krafty not being aired by Radio 1, I doubt it...

Maybe Jetstream will put it back in the Top 20... :scratch:

I think there's a possibility Jetstream will do better than Krafty.

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Patrick wrote: Slow Jam was pretty much a career low point, wasn't it?

It's an easy target really, perhaps too easy... I know lots of people on here love Get Ready but I must admit, notwithstanding Barney's 5 11 comments of new songs "in time" gaining historal perspectives, my opinion of that album has actually gotten lower over the years. I can't remember the last time I deliberately listened to a track off it, unless it was Crystal on a compilation or by accident. They were basically trying to be Joy Division again on GR but they were missing 50% of what made Joy Division special: Ian Curtis and Hannett's production.

I sense there was a "we're so lucky to have New Order back so anything will do" feeling around 2001, but now they're obviously "Here to Stay" (yes crap pun) we can be more objective about it all and I personally think at least half of that album was a tuneless guitar mess. It did have it's high points like Crystal which was an amazing comeback single, Primitive Notion and other understated stuff like Vicious Streak, etc. but overall it's perhaps their weakest stuff. WFTSC is more consistently good. There's no tracks I really want to skip past or cringe at when I hear. There's more melody and the tunes seem to "fit" better together this time plus the production is less flat.

It sounds lazy but it's more of a "New Order album" to me than GR will ever be.

Ally.

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Ally3000 wrote:

Patrick wrote: Slow Jam was pretty much a career low point, wasn't it?

It's an easy target really, perhaps too easy... I know lots of people on here love Get Ready but I must admit, notwithstanding Barney's 5 11 comments of new songs "in time" gaining historal perspectives, my opinion of that album has actually gotten lower over the years. I can't remember the last time I deliberately listened to a track off it, unless it was Crystal on a compilation or by accident. They were basically trying to be Joy Division again on GR but they were missing 50% of what made Joy Division special: Ian Curtis and Hannett's production.

I sense there was a "we're so lucky to have New Order back so anything will do" feeling around 2001, but now they're obviously "Here to Stay" (yes crap pun) we can be more objective about it all and I personally think at least half of that album was a tuneless guitar mess. It did have it's high points like Crystal which was an amazing comeback single, Primitive Notion and other understated stuff like Vicious Streak, etc. but overall it's perhaps their weakest stuff. WFTSC is more consistently good. There's no tracks I really want to skip past or cringe at when I hear. There's more melody and the tunes seem to "fit" better together this time plus the production is less flat.

It sounds lazy but it's more of a "New Order album" to me than GR will ever be.

Ally.

I think everyone would agree that WFTSC is far, far better than GR. Except Muffy, perhaps.

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Patrick wrote:

I hadn't read this when I posted my last. Never mind about my questions, DC. Perhaps another time.

No problem, P. Sure - some other time.

It's actually exceedingly late here and we're being watched by a small rabbit.

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Plus, DC, it's probably past your bedtime.

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depthcharge wrote:

Patrick wrote:

I hadn't read this when I posted my last. Never mind about my questions, DC. Perhaps another time.

No problem, P. Sure - some other time.

It's actually exceedingly late here and we're being watched by a small rabbit.

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We seem to be crossing posts. Get some sleep, DC.

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Has anyone else seen the UK TV ADVERTS for WFTSC? Never seen NO advertised before - unless it's been for free by the sports channels, wanting a cool soundtrack for their clips, or the BBC wanting to pretend to be cool...

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Chris Nash wrote: Has anyone else seen the UK TV ADVERTS for WFTSC? Never seen NO advertised before - unless it's been for free by the sports channels, wanting a cool soundtrack for their clips, or the BBC wanting to pretend to be cool...

CHRIS check the FOOK ME thread!Yes i know......haven't seen them myself yet.

Regards Rocket Mick

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Patrick wrote:

I think everyone would agree that WFTSC is far, far better than GR. Except Muffy, perhaps.

I don't know this to be true, P.

If I wasn't about to hit the hay, I'd dig up a thread I did a few weeks back asking everyone to rank their NO albums.

Tomorrow perhaps.

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depthcharge wrote:

Patrick wrote:

I think everyone would agree that WFTSC is far, far better than GR. Except Muffy, perhaps.

I don't know this to be true, P.

If I wasn't about to hit the hay, I'd dig up a thread I did a few weeks back asking everyone to rank their NO albums.

Tomorrow perhaps.

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Get a good night's sleep, DC. When I said you were one of my favorite Australians, that somewhat understated the case.

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Yep #5 is better than i expected.But it will drop like the proverbial bomb out of that chart before you can eat a Snappy`s pizza(with or without extra topping).Still,well done to Ceefax for getting the apostraphe in the right place.

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I never look at charts but this thread triggered me to see how WFTSC was doing over here: nr 52 (4'th highest new entry) in a mega album top 100; haven't a clue what the status of that chart is and don't care anyway.

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Folkert wrote: I never look at charts but this thread triggered me to see how WFTSC was doing over here: nr 52 (4'th highest new entry) in a mega album top 100; haven't a clue what the status of that chart is and don't care anyway.

I wonder if they will enter the Billboard 200 in the US.. :shrug:

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It's kinda dissapointing... but I'm sure it won't hit that high here in the states when it debuts. i'm sure it will crack the top 200. Unfortunately, most people just have lost sight of what good music really is.

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Jonathan Vogel wrote: It's kinda dissapointing... but I'm sure it won't hit that high here in the states when it debuts. i'm sure it will crack the top 200. Unfortunately, most people just have lost sight of what good music really is.

Totally. The charts in the States have for some time been oversaturated with a million Hip Hop clones and "balladeers" like Mariah Carey, Celine Dion etc. I've never really seen any sort of huge change in them; musical diversity is obviously an alien concept to the main bulk of the American record buying public. Bang out a slick R&B album and the next day you're a crass millionaire. One R. Kelly album can make enough money to wipe out the third world debt at least twice and still these celeb cunts appear and demand our money to help Africa :angry: Anyway, Billboard's never been a mark of what's truly musically good in the world; Hip Hop and Rap always were mostly bollocks bar one or two interesting records.. the balladeering is even worse!

I wouldn't like to guess as to New Order's US chart position this time around. Warner's really need to pull the finger out and promote Krafty/Jetstream through the roof to make a good impact then we'd ideally be looking at Billboard top 50... I hope. They really need to get right in there on this recent "new" New Wave "wave" sweeping NYC lately in the shape of The Killers and The Bravery who ripped off most of New Order's tunes to begin with.

Ally.

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Ally3000 wrote:

Jonathan Vogel wrote: It's kinda dissapointing... but I'm sure it won't hit that high here in the states when it debuts. i'm sure it will crack the top 200. Unfortunately, most people just have lost sight of what good music really is.

Totally. The charts in the States have for some time been oversaturated with a million Hip Hop clones and "balladeers" like Mariah Carey, Celine Dion etc. I've never really seen any sort of huge change in them; musical diversity is obviously an alien concept to the main bulk of the American record buying public.

That's really quite true. The charts tend to be heavily influenced by radio play, but unfortunately most of the radio stations here are owned by the same few companies (with a few notable exceptions), and they play all the same songs. I used to work for a "Top 40" station in New York City, and they quite literally meant they played the same 40 songs over and over and over and over and over... I thought I was going to lose my mind if I heard "Hot in Here" by Nelly one more time.

But I digress. Unless NO gets some good radio play, they probably won't get very high up the charts. And unfortunately I won't be helping the cause, since I ordered the album from amazon.co.uk last week... :uhoh: Those of us who live near a station that might play their singles should make a point to call in and request it, though, and maybe that will help.

Although the NYC show (and others too) sold out really quickly, so maybe that is a promising sign...?

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"Krafty" entered the german singles-chart at 65 first week!

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depthcharge wrote:

Patrick wrote:

I think everyone would agree that WFTSC is far, far better than GR. Except Muffy, perhaps.

I don't know this to be true, P.

If I wasn't about to hit the hay, I'd dig up a thread I did a few weeks back asking everyone to rank their NO albums.

Tomorrow perhaps.

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What was it exactly that needed editing, DC?

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Wasn't happy with the angle of the cigarette.

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Number 5 :skeptic: at least they are ahead of G4 (this week)

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No. 5 is a disappointing result for the team.

The position is all the more distorted when you see that 50 Pennies has somehow managed to encourage his album of hard nosed ditties about purchasing items from the candle shop to the lofty heights of no. 4. From what I can gather, the lead singer of 50 Pennies, Coin Johnson, has spent all his time working out in the gym rather than learning to play the bugle.

Rhubarb.

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It is a little disappointing but just imagine, do you think 50 pennies could get near #5 when he's peddling 50 years rather than coins?

Did you have any perspective on the mules' situation of a prior page?

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Actually, I've also been meaning to ask whether H has an answer to my best-musical-item-ever-by-anyone question.

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depthcharge wrote: It is a little disappointing but just imagine, do you think 50 pennies could get near #5 when he's peddling 50 years rather than coins?

Did you have any perspective on the mules' situation of a prior page?

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I did read that there was a pizza topped mule discussion somewhat unresolved, and that P had appeared in a Lothario format elsewhere to swoon the ladies, which I guessed must have been late Saturday night upon return from the discotheque.

Citing cheese did appear a deviating tactic, but perhaps the temptation to present P with his own nuances was too hard to resist. For example, you could ask Pastie if he liked soup, and he would simply say; 'don't we all?'.

Let me remind you again that whence I last suggested that Pizza Heist attained the most resplendent pizza base, you almost destroyed my planet claiming I was a dough guzzling fake, and that only the true Italian original recipe was fitting for you and your toffee beaked friend(s).

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Patrick wrote: Actually, I've also been meaning to ask whether H has an answer to my best-musical-item-ever-by-anyone question.

If I answered this, most personal of questions, well I may as well shoot my own Paris Hilton video and upload it to Rocket Michael's distribution centre.

Never before has a question been poised in which a human soul is potentially left hanging on the washing line of life.

I didn't think yourself or Dusty Chariot had even answered it on your own terms?

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I think I must have missed that episode.

I meant the pizza episode.

That's the risk you take when you don't quote what you're responding to.

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Huntsman wrote:

Patrick wrote: Actually, I've also been meaning to ask whether H has an answer to my best-musical-item-ever-by-anyone question.

If I answered this, most personal of questions, well I may as well shoot my own Paris Hilton video and upload it to Rocket Michael's distribution centre.

Never before has a question been poised in which a human soul is potentially left hanging on the washing line of life.

I didn't think yourself or Dusty Chariot had even answered it on your own terms?

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My answer was I'm Set Free, by the Velvet Underground. I've forgotten DC's answer, perhaps because it was so slow in coming.

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CTB also answered, but his was too long to repeat.

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The Velvet Underpass?

I'm Settling the Fee?

Surely there is an element of irony there Pastry - are you sure you don't prefer Paranoid the Android by Radiosnout?

There is a dichotomy in the making.

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Huntsman wrote: The Velvet Underpass?

I'm Settling the Fee?

Surely there is an element of irony there Pastry - are you sure you don't prefer Paranoid the Android by Radiosnout?

There is a dichotomy in the making.

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Have I heard that one, H?

You don't have to answer the musical item question if you don't want to, H. Or is the item mentioned above your actual answer?

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I don't think its appropriate.

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TOP 20 (España)

4 Posicion

TOP DANCE (Europa)

4 Posicion

TOP INTERACTICO MTV (España)

3 Posicion

Top 40 Albums UK

5 Posicion

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What's that stuck underneath that blokes chin?

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Huntsman wrote: What's that stuck underneath that blokes chin?

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Which bloke?

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Hank Wiseass© wrote:

Huntsman wrote: What's that stuck underneath that blokes chin?

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Which bloke?

The bloke with the enormous balloon growing out of his ear.

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Huntsman wrote: I don't think its appropriate.

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I am certainly happy to accept that response, H. I would never press anyone to answer personal questions.

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Patrick wrote:

Huntsman wrote: I don't think its appropriate.

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I am certainly happy to accept that response, H. I would never press anyone to answer personal questions.

Even about their favourite pizza topping?

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Huntsman wrote:

Patrick wrote:

Huntsman wrote: I don't think its appropriate.

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I am certainly happy to accept that response, H. I would never press anyone to answer personal questions.

Even about their favourite pizza topping?

:hat:

Well, I might perhaps press a little bit on that.

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Jetstream could chart in the States if it is accompanied with a Bernard and Ana Matronic video resembling that of 50 Cent's 'Candy Shop'.

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Chris Nash wrote: Has anyone else seen the UK TV ADVERTS for WFTSC? Never seen NO advertised before - unless it's been for free by the sports channels, wanting a cool soundtrack for their clips, or the BBC wanting to pretend to be cool...

*Technique was advertised on TV too.

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