The most underrated NO song...

AgentWood wrote:

oldmonkey wrote: If slow jam is a rock ballad, I am Rose West!

how do i know? you might be.

That would be telling. You'd have to frisk me!

pfff im sorry u guys but if your looking for underated then look no further than the peel session of i.c.b. well sorry to all but the guy who mentioned mr disco,what a sublime song,if it was released today by a boy band it would sell thimble loads.

Barney Army wrote: Everythings Gone Green. surely?

I agree with thos whole heartedly

and Procession as well....

the village, leave me alone, face up, & dream attack.

i told you so. This song gets more fantastic as time goes on. It seems like back to experimental new order to me.

Shellshock. Nobody likes it but i think its great.

His Holiness, The Pope wrote: Movement, album

Angel Dust, song

i do think movement is greatly Overlooked, i mean people HATE it, i think its a great album, not their best but the most Underrated thing that new order has ever done

gotta be procession.

Ally3000 wrote: Republic was indeed a great album badly underrated by the fanbase even to this day. When I saw this thread I thought I'd nominate the whole album rather than just one song. The same tired arguments I've heard rolled out to justify it's crap review rating include lack of Hooky bass and annoyance at the presence of "good" production. Since good production is a rarity on a New Order record (except WFTSC) I prefer to stick up for it rather than bitch about it! :D Plus there's plenty of Hooky bass on Republic but for some reason people seem to home in on "World" as the root of all evil. It's a good house single, and simply because Hooky's twanging bass isn't on it does not make it the anti-christ

Let's not forget it brought us Regret, Ruined in a day, and Special.

Couldn't have put it better myself, Ally! I'm going to nominate Republic as well.

Definitly Everything's Gone Green

Paul Rogers wrote: HAS TO BE VANISHING POINT, DESPITE THAT CRUMMY TV DRAMA

I liked MAKING OUT a lot! I also LOVE VANISHING POINT and MTO!

The lack of Republic love on this forum is disturbing.

Ruined in a Day/Everyone Everywhere/Regret/Special/Times Change>>>>everything on Technique.

Razed In A New Division Of Agony wrote: Mesh I think. I prefer it to Cries & Whispers any day.

*I hope you mean the TRUE Mesh, the song which didn't appear on Substance. So undarrated it got mistitled... one of my favourites ever and so underrated by the band it didn't even make it on Retro! And, talking about songs underrated by fans, of course it's I Told You So, best song on WFTSC and yet so few of you can get it...

Republic is a dark, brooding, and a fantastic monster of an album. It's evident from this thread that (thankfully) not everybody dislikes it, but it does divide the NO fan base.

For this reason I won't nominate Republic itself, but just Times Change due to the amount of times it has brought goose bumps out on my skin...

how about "All the way" from Technique? A brilliantly presented depressing love declaration...

lowlife wrote: how about "All the way" from Technique? A brilliantly presented depressing love declaration...

Yeah, that's definitely one of the best songs on technique, right after vanashing point and "The picture you see is no portrait of me"(forgot the name...sorry :( )

"Behind Closed Doors". NO going experimental, great Hooky-Baß-Loop, the vocals at the beginning are ace, the drums, atmosphere, i like that one very much!

We All Stand

Everyone here seems to hate it. It was my favourite on PC&L and it still sounds bloody great

"what do you want from me" by monaco

more new order than new order!

Isamu wrote: "The picture you see is no portrait of me"(forgot the name...sorry :( )

That's Round and Round you're thinking of, Isamu. Hope that helps.

As an old-schooler, I'd say Doubts Even Here. The best song on the best album. What I wouldn't give to hear that floating out over Hyde Park...

Some good calls upthread : Mesh, ICB (Peel Version), and yes....I Told You So is *very* underappreciated. Whoever it was who compared it to old, experimental NO was definitely on the money!

Depends what you mean by under-rated. The fact that so many tracks appear a number of times surely means that they are rated. This thread just proves what a brilliant back catalogue New Order has.

To add my twopennyworth - Face Up, Here to Stay, 586, Times Change, The Him.

DC wrote: told You So is *very* underappreciated. Whoever it was who compared it to old, experimental NO was definitely on the money!

I would like to take credit for that.

Mick Aneworderfan wrote:

Razed In A New Division Of Agony wrote: Mesh I think. I prefer it to Cries & Whispers any day.

*I hope you mean the TRUE Mesh, the song which didn't appear on Substance. So undarrated it got mistitled... one of my favourites ever and so underrated by the band it didn't even make it on Retro! And, talking about songs underrated by fans, of course it's I Told You So, best song on WFTSC and yet so few of you can get it...

Yeah, the one on 1981-FEP 313-1982. It rocks.

DC wrote: As an old-schooler, I'd say Doubts Even Here. The best song on the best album. What I wouldn't give to hear that floating out over Hyde Park...Some good calls upthread : Mesh, ICB (Peel Version), and yes....I Told You So is *very* underappreciated. Whoever it was who compared it to old, experimental NO was definitely on the money!

I fuckin' love you.

Thieves like us

I'll start off with one no one has mentioned: Player in the League. I love this f***ing song. great bassline, great chorus.

honorable mentions:

don't do it 586 (peel sessions)..rocks da house! all day long lonesome tonight guilty partner liar (it cheers me up..ok!)

one comment about republic...NTG (not that good) it's maybe only half good...and i don't give a crap if barney worked his ass off on that record.. it's fricking washed out, pussy-ass production.. way to slick. it not really a true new order record in my opinion.

All day long is genius.Lyrics are a bit dodgy but the last three minutes of the song are awsome.From the country and western guitar riff half way through to the big big ending.Would love to see it played live too!!

Razed In A New Division Of Agony wrote:

DC wrote: As an old-schooler, I'd say Doubts Even Here. The best song on the best album. What I wouldn't give to hear that floating out over Hyde Park...Some good calls upthread : Mesh, ICB (Peel Version), and yes....I Told You So is *very* underappreciated. Whoever it was who compared it to old, experimental NO was definitely on the money!

I fuckin' love you.

Blimey. Which bit of what I said did you like?

DC wrote: Some good calls upthread : Mesh, ICB (Peel Version), and yes....I Told You So is *very* underappreciated. Whoever it was who compared it to old, experimental NO was definitely on the money!

*Me too, wrote it's the only song of the album which reminds me of the most adventurous tracks of the 80s, with that sequencer and experimenting with an unusual rhythm for them... more Caribbean dub please! I want more songs with that ace rhythm... Also the bittersweet mood of the song, which would like to be sunny but sounds dark as hell when you really get it, all I can think is Shaun Ryder recovering from an OD at the Barbados... ;) That also happened at the time of PC&L, Low Life etc. Another difference with other songs is it sounds a bit filthy, or better, sexy with a dirty attitude, you can also picture a hot club in a suburb in Latin America and couples dirty dancing in slow motion before going for a good drunk shag...

Chuckles wrote: I'll start off with one no one has mentioned: Player in the League.

That's my favourite song of the last 15 years! But yes, very underrated by the band, which kept it hidden as a B side, maybe it's not a proper single (it's not that commercial and catchy and not everyone might fall instantly in love with those keyboards like I did), but keeping it out of Get Ready makes no sense (I think it's better than any song on the album, but you'll at least admit that it's better than Rock The Shack ;) )... Anyway I'm happy to see there's quite some fans loving this song, it's probably the most popular B side of the recent years after Behind Closed Doors... erm, not that there were that many, but you get the idea, there's good competition... Sabotage, for example, was another fookin great B side!