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any opinions on all time fav gig and why??? mine was macclesfield leisure centre i was about 5 inches away from the bloke that got twatted by hookys bass when he lost his rag!!

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My fave so far would probably be Area One in Mountain View last July...it was such a lovely vacation, and to see them for my first time in 8 years, hey...it was almost special!!!

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Favorite (and only) - Area:One The Gorge, Washington

Meeting Allen and Johnny and Paula etc...was the perfect compliment to a beautiful day. Spent the previous day with magic mushrooms roaming the plateaus and valleys of the Columbia River Gorge. A rainbow appeared during NewOrder's set and the sun fell over the gorge while the band played on. Of course there were the fucked up lyrics, the "it's great to be here" bullshit, and a less than inspired BlueMonday but it was magical. I didn't stop talking about the show or feeling the emotional high for 3 months (you can only hear "shut up about that damn show" so many times) I still don't have a copy of that gig on disc. I've got the day before and the day after but not that day. Any help guys?

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are you two guys talking about the same gig!!!what was the set..was it the pre programmed line up or did they slip in a couple of specials just for you!!!

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Jeff is referring to the gig at Sanfrancisco (mountain view) i think, unless it was LA. Actually i think the SF gig was Shoreline and LA was Mountain View. I was referring to the "Seattle" show. The set was the same for every date on the Area:One tour except for Vancouver (missed True Faith) I think. Allen and Johnny were at every show so they know for sure. Check the Tours and Concerts page here to see for yourself. Different shows but still amazing to see NewOrder after waiting so many years.

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Okay...let's see...Mountain View is the city that Shoreline Amphitheater is in...sorry to cause such confusion!!!!!

And Mountain View is a city between San Francisco and San Jose...right on San Francisco Bay...

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Jeff's right, it's fooking confusing. From what I recall, the Area:One tour was....

San Francisco (Mountain View)- Shoreline Ampitheatre Vancouver - Thunderbird Stadium Seattle - Gorge Ampitheatre LA - Glen Helen Ampitheatre, Devore

These gigs were advertised as per the major cities above but in reality they are,like, 3 small country's away. The Seattle gig....3 hour drive out of town!!, LA...a good 60 miles of gridlocked freeway east of downtown & $180 cab ride with a driver who was falling asleep at the wheel.

Have to say that Mountain View & Gorge are 2 of my fave NO shows of all time, as Brian described...incredible settings, great climate & a skinful of American beer to help 'get in the zone' ;)

At the same time Vancouver is about my worst. Cold, wet & a dry venue!, what the fucks all that about?

So Paul, you experienced Macc LC? my debut NO gig & for that reason alone will stick in my mind. Remember the Mondays from that show? hilarious. Then GMEX '88 was a good'n too. Hmmm, can't decide. Still it's a good feeling trying to figure it out.

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Mine would be at the Hordern Pavillion, Sydney 23/1/02 because it's the only one I've been too. But I must say it rocked. My highlights would have to be Temptation and Blue Monday.

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Either Birmingham or Malvern 86, great sets on consecutive nights, 24 different songs played including a wild Sister Ray with the Mondays.

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the Metro, Melbourne, 2002. Why, the best gig i saw out of the only 2 times i had seen them live, and a longer show than the Big Day Out gig 2 days earlier.

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Has to be Birmingham NEC 26-03-89 (Easter Sunday) My first ever gig! Can't remember much about Happy Mondays except they were all stoned / pissed - just a pity I wasn't into them at the time:nod: Although I do remember Wrote for luck - which was great! As fer New Order - what a gig;) Almost all of Technique was played (I think) and to my delight they also played 1963. I also remember Hooky was sat on top of an amp for a few songs - poor lad must have been tired:lol: Absolutely brilliant concert and I think they closed with The Perfect Kiss - cos I can't remember them playing Blue Monday (could be wrong) left the concert and spent fuck knows how much on memorabilia (badges, t-shirts and a poster of Technique which was about 6ft high) First Concert has to be my fave fer purely sentimental reasons:nod:

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I've got a recording from Birmingham but it's listed as the 24th and not the 26th. 57mins Sound board recording (but not great) good show. You lucky dog. A friend of mine had that huge Technique poster mounted and hung in his front room years ago...how i wish i had that monster now. bummer about the finger prints though.

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just checked the T&C section and you are correct on the date and the set. Most of Technique finished off with Perfect Kiss.

1 Touched by the Hand of God 2 Mr Disco 3 Dream Attack 4 Vanishing Point 5 1963 6 Run 7 All The Way 8 True Faith 9 Ceremony 10 Round & Round 11 Bizarre Love Triangle 12 Temptation 13 Fine Time 14 The Perfect Kiss

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Originally posted by Geaux Hagen just checked the T&C section and you are correct on the date and the set. Most of Technique finished off with Perfect Kiss.1 Touched by the Hand of God2 Mr Disco3 Dream Attack4 Vanishing Point5 19636 Run7 All The Way8 True Faith9 Ceremony10 Round & Round11 Bizarre Love Triangle12 Temptation13 Fine Time14 The Perfect Kiss

Cheers Brian:clap: Never even thought to check the tours and concerts section;)

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I liked most of the obvious ones: G-Mex 88, Brixton 87, Finsbury Park 87, just cos each and every one of them was absolute BEDLAM! The only way to enjoy the Order was when you were in fear of getting your leg broken down the front! Brixton 87 will always stay with me cos they did Ceremony as the 4th song, so you're then waiting for the infamous New Order slow section to kick in ... but then they did Dreams Never End(!) and kept it kicking after that. Only 18 at the time but, fcuk me, I thought me lungs were gonna burst.

The pick of last year's gigs, for me, were probably Liverpool (for the obvious reasons), first Paris gig (fantastic crowd - mostly Brits, mind!) and LA (rendezvousing with the Mackem / Slough posse again!)..

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Glastonbury 87, was a cracker, with em finishing with Sister Ray and Barney trowing stuff into Gillians keyboards.

Also Woolwich Coronet, with Do The Ostrich , whatever happened to em experimenting with new tracks live with lyrics totaly different to what appeared on albums.

Different sets each night in the good old days. Now theyve turned into Elton John same set. Heck I will still be at the gigs though.

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Finsbury Park 87 - New Order, ACR, Happy Mondays and The Railway Children. Couldn't have asked for a better line up if I'd tried.

Birmingham 89 - As Shug says, a classic.

My best gig ever, though, was REM at Portsmouth Guildhall in 88, but that's a topic for a different board.

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Central London Poly in December 85. Sublime set list, no encore, didn't matter.

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Originally posted by Sloppy Giuseppe Either Birmingham or Malvern 86, great sets on consecutive nights, 24 different songs played including a wild Sister Ray with the Mondays.

i was at malvern the famous winter gardens...it was like an old village hall...the encore i do remember was pretty crazy about 20 mins worth....i was near the front and managed to get gobbed on by bez...nice lad.we went to the gig on the train but fucked up on the connections back home and slept the night on the station...but it was worth it

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Originally posted by Allen Jarvis I liked most of the obvious ones: G-Mex 88, Brixton 87, Finsbury Park 87, just cos each and every one of them was absolute BEDLAM! The only way to enjoy the Order was when you were in fear of getting your leg broken down the front! Brixton 87 will always stay with me cos they did Ceremony as the 4th song, so you're then waiting for the infamous New Order slow section to kick in ... but then they did Dreams Never End(!) and kept it kicking after that. Only 18 at the time but, fcuk me, I thought me lungs were gonna burst.The pick of last year's gigs, for me, were probably Liverpool (for the obvious reasons), first Paris gig (fantastic crowd - mostly Brits, mind!) and LA (rendezvousing with the Mackem / Slough posse again!)..

talking about songs rolling into each other i remember sheffield university they kicked off with (not sure about order)..ceremony,age of consentand dreams never end with no break inbetween songs...as you say a bit hard on the legs you need a 15 minute version of 586 to refuel yourself

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Mine would also be Birmingham Tower Ballroom 1986, 16 years old, first NO gig. Got absolutely battererd at the front but it was worth it. Great quality bootleg of the gig too so the memory never fades. Reading 1989 was also great - House of Love, Sugarcubes and then New Order - f*cking knackering! Had to sleep at Reading Station too!

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Originally posted by ShugZV > Originally posted by Geaux Hagen> just checked the T&C section and you are correct on the date and the set. Most of Technique finished off with Perfect Kiss.> > 1 Touched by the Hand of God> 2 Mr Disco> 3 Dream Attack> 4 Vanishing Point> 5 1963> 6 Run> 7 All The Way> 8 True Faith> 9 Ceremony> 10 Round & Round> 11 Bizarre Love Triangle> 12 Temptation> 13 Fine Time> 14 The Perfect Kiss

Cheers Brian:clap: Never even thought to check the tours and concerts section;)

Shit, If Only I could go back in time....

Only got into the Order in '94 unfortunately - mainly due to the fact the rest of my family/ mates generally have shite taste in music..

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bit of a bast eh Sebsy? You missed a good few concerts then! Mark Smith - Birmingham 86 - Gillian's fave ever concert:nod: I have that tape as well - brilliant. Can't remeber who mentioned Finsbury 87 - that was me uncle John's first concert - and he got the tape a couple of weeks later - love it!! same with Reading 89!! I'd love to have been at both!

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Originally posted by ShugZV bit of a bast eh Sebsy? You missed a good few concerts then!Mark Smith - Birmingham 86 - Gillian's fave ever concert:nod: I have that tape as well - brilliant.Can't remeber who mentioned Finsbury 87 - that was me uncle John's first concert - and he got the tape a couple of weeks later - love it!! same with Reading 89!! I'd love to have been at both!

Yeah just a bit. Old music is so much better than it is today. (starting to show my age)

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Gotta be Electronic @ Wembley Halls 91 !

sound quality was utter shite - however the experiance of seeing Barney, Johnny and PSB all up on stage together literally playing the whole first album was sublime to say the least ;)

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Originally posted by ShugZV Has to be Birmingham NEC 26-03-89 (Easter Sunday) My first ever gig! Can't remember much about Happy Mondays except they were all stoned / pissed - just a pity I wasn't into them at the time:nod: Although I do remember Wrote for luck - which was great!As fer New Order - what a gig;) Almost all of Technique was played (I think) and to my delight they also played 1963. I also remember Hooky was sat on top of an amp for a few songs - poor lad must have been tired:lol: Absolutely brilliant concert and I think they closed with The Perfect Kiss - cos I can't remember them playing Blue Monday (could be wrong) left the concert and spent fuck knows how much on memorabilia (badges, t-shirts and a poster of Technique which was about 6ft high) First Concert has to be my fave fer purely sentimental reasons:nod:

that was my first new order gig too! what are the chances?

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Spooky Davey boy:lol: Is it yer fave concert then?

Post 1933 Interesting Facts.... Adolf Hitler becomes German Chancellor - Nazi's begin mass arrests of political opponents, first concentration camp opened (Dachau) Ghandi jailed for a year for anti-British activity, US prohibition repealed, In Ireland - Dail abolishes loyalty to British Crown, The Ashes between England and Australia gets nasty with the English use of "Bodyline" bowling.

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I will cast the 3rd vote for Brum Tower Ballroom. Was my first time as well and I can still remember the palm trees on the dancefloor.

Brixton'87 was great as well...I lost a shoe that night and ended up walking round Picadilly Circus in the rain and sleeping at Paddington.

Finsbury '87 was memorable not only for the crush but it was the first time I saw ACR.

My first trip abroad to see them in Dusseldorf is near the top just because it was such a great adventure, especially when you're only 18/19. When we got there we were surprised to see so many Brits had also made the journey.

After Gmex'88 we managed to get a coach back to the Midlands at about 4 in the morning and after being at a rather dodgy curry house.

At the NEC gig in '89 the Mondays were standing right behind us. Though I was absolutely cream crackered as 5 of us had slept in a car at a service station the night before on the way back from Glasgow.

I really enjoyed Liverpool last year as well because it was the 1st time i'd seen them since '93. This time though my girlfriend and I stayed at the Adelphi - no sleeping in cars or at train stations once you hit your 30's.

You're getting me all misty eyed! :cry:

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Not alone in being misty eyed at the thought of the fake plastic trees at the Tower Ballroom ! How those palm trees have lived with me..... That could be as near to perfect a venue for New Order - played there three times so far (live in hope).

The 83 gig started so good it was just untrue with LWTUA. 85 was a slow burner that maybe would have benefitted from not starting with 6 new songs !! (note to Steve - give us a fucking break mate !), and the 86 show was just out of this world, a tremendous set well played and a great atmosphere. It's me that features on the audience tape of that show, having seen the set-list !!

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Tiffanys in 85 - used to be my regular nightclub haunt !!!! (pete stringfellow ran it the 60's) - Cattle market type club with a massive tree in the middle of it.....its the words of Jarvis Do you remember the first time

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My favorite gig has to be the only one I have been to! :p The Area One concert in "LA". It is true that it is not exactly in LA, actually it was about an hour or so from downtown in the damn mountains. It was beautiful though. Jeff you should have went to LA instead of SF, I heard it was a better show. And Gillian was there :)

I loved the concert because I was so close and because it was NewOrder. It was the first and only time I saw them but I was upset that the whole concert wasn't them.

Now that they decided not to come to the US :( I guess I will have to HOPE they will someday again!

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Originally posted by Sloppy Giuseppe Not alone in being misty eyed at the thought of the fake plastic trees at the Tower Ballroom ! How those palm trees have lived with me..... That could be as near to perfect a venue for New Order - played there three times so far (live in hope).The 83 gig started so good it was just untrue with LWTUA. 85 was a slow burner that maybe would have benefitted from not starting with 6 new songs !! (note to Steve - give us a fucking break mate !), and the 86 show was just out of this world, a tremendous set well played and a great atmosphere. It's me that features on the audience tape of that show, having seen the set-list !!

The banter at the '86 gig did get quite lively. I know you said it was you shouting before Broken Promise. On the tape that I have I'm sure you can here someone shouting what sounds like 'boring' all the way thru - that wasn't you was it?

And who shouted 'You're just a fucking pop group'which led to a frank exchange of words!

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Originally posted by Mickey Way > Originally posted by Sloppy Giuseppe> Not alone in being misty eyed at the thought of the fake plastic trees at the Tower Ballroom ! How those palm trees have lived with me..... That could be as near to perfect a venue for New Order - played there three times so far (live in hope).> > The 83 gig started so good it was just untrue with LWTUA. 85 was a slow burner that maybe would have benefitted from not starting with 6 new songs !! (note to Steve - give us a fucking break mate !), and the 86 show was just out of this world, a tremendous set well played and a great atmosphere. It's me that features on the audience tape of that show, having seen the set-list !!

The banter at the '86 gig did get quite lively. I know you said it was you shouting before Broken Promise. On the tape that I have I'm sure you can here someone shouting what sounds like 'boring' all the way thru - that wasn't you was it?

And who shouted 'You're just a fucking pop group'which led to a frank exchange of words!

No, that wasn't me shouting "boring", or the pop group bit !!......"We may be a pop group but you're a fucking wanker......" Made for quite a good "Weirdo" though !

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Originally posted by Mickey Way > Originally posted by Sloppy Giuseppe> Not alone in being misty eyed at the thought of the fake plastic trees at the Tower Ballroom ! How those palm trees have lived with me..... That could be as near to perfect a venue for New Order - played there three times so far (live in hope).> > The 83 gig started so good it was just untrue with LWTUA. 85 was a slow burner that maybe would have benefitted from not starting with 6 new songs !! (note to Steve - give us a fucking break mate !), and the 86 show was just out of this world, a tremendous set well played and a great atmosphere. It's me that features on the audience tape of that show, having seen the set-list !!

The banter at the '86 gig did get quite lively. I know you said it was you shouting before Broken Promise. On the tape that I have I'm sure you can here someone shouting what sounds like 'boring' all the way thru - that wasn't you was it?

And who shouted 'You're just a fucking pop group'which led to a frank exchange of words!

No, that wasn't me shouting "boring", or the pop group bit !!......"We may be a pop group but you're a fucking wanker......" Made for quite a good "Weirdo" though !

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Originally posted by Mickey Way > Originally posted by Sloppy Giuseppe> Not alone in being misty eyed at the thought of the fake plastic trees at the Tower Ballroom ! How those palm trees have lived with me..... That could be as near to perfect a venue for New Order - played there three times so far (live in hope).> > The 83 gig started so good it was just untrue with LWTUA. 85 was a slow burner that maybe would have benefitted from not starting with 6 new songs !! (note to Steve - give us a fucking break mate !), and the 86 show was just out of this world, a tremendous set well played and a great atmosphere. It's me that features on the audience tape of that show, having seen the set-list !!

The banter at the '86 gig did get quite lively. I know you said it was you shouting before Broken Promise. On the tape that I have I'm sure you can here someone shouting what sounds like 'boring' all the way thru - that wasn't you was it?

And who shouted 'You're just a fucking pop group'which led to a frank exchange of words!

No, that wasn't me shouting "boring", or the pop group bit !!......"We may be a pop group but you're a fucking wanker......" Made for quite a good "Weirdo" though !

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Nice to know a few others at the Tower Ballroom 86 gig. Support was by the Wonder Stuff and the Mondays. My mate who was pissed after 2 pints of dodgy lager managed to chuck a glass ash tray at Bez. I don't think it would have made much difference! I have a tape of the 94 Powerhouse gig when Hooky offered out the DJ, anyone on the board at that gig?

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AS A RULE:

One's first NO gig, must be one's most special one!!!

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AS A RULE:

One's first NO gig, must be one's most special one!!!

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AS A RULE:

One's first NO gig, must be one's most special one!!!

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Sorry, computerfailure....

.... so therefore my alltime high favourite gig will always be:

Brixton Academy, London, 12 October 2001!!!!!

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Barrowlands - 8-10-01 only my second NO gig (being a spritely youngster!) the last was in reading in 92 or 93 but i was 15 and didn't fully appreciate it - also there's the thing with the dedication to my hubby at the glasgow gig totally unforgettable

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Best gig for me has to be Woolwich Corenet '87. Excellent set and because it was only advertised in the Standard on the day, the crowd was made up of proper NO fans.

I think "The Wonder Stuff" supported which was good as it was befroe they got that horrid violin

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Best gig for me has to be Woolwich Corenet 87. Excellent set and because it was only advertised in the Standard on the day, the crowd was made up of proper NO fans.

I think "The Wonder Stuff" supported which was good as it was befroe they got that horrid violin

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Best gig for me has to be Woolwich Corenet 87. Excellent set and because it was only advertised in the Standard on the day, the crowd was made up of proper NO fans.

I think "The Wonder Stuff" supported which was good as it was befroe they got that horrid violin

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Best gig for me has to be Woolwich Corenet 87. Excellent set and because it was only advertised in the Standard on the day, the crowd was made up of proper NO fans.

I think "The Wonder Stuff" supported which was good as it was befroe they got that horrid violin

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Reading '98.... my first and best.

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Reading '98.... my first and best.

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Reading '98.... my first and best.

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Hmmm... so good it had to be said thrice!

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Originally posted by John Harrington Best gig for me has to be Woolwich Corenet 87. Excellent set and because it was only advertised in the Standard on the day, the crowd was made up of proper NO fans.I think "The Wonder Stuff" supported which was good as it was befroe they got that horrid violin

Think it must've been advertised in the Standard before the day, as I went and lived in Colchester at the time. Admittedly, it was a late call, though I do think it was in the NME, or Sounds, or whatever.

All I can remember is the Wonder Stuff getting bottled, and my then girlfriend screaming for people to stop throwing things.. .

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Originally posted by April My favorite gig has to be the only one I have been to! :pThe Area One concert in "LA". It is true that it is not exactly in LA, actually it was about an hour or so from downtown in the damn mountains. It was beautiful though. Jeff you should have went to LA instead of SF, I heard it was a better show. And Gillian was there :)I loved the concert because I was so close and because it was NewOrder. It was the first and only time I saw them but I was upset that the whole concert wasn't them.Now that they decided not to come to the US :( I guess I will have to HOPE they will someday again!

Aye...it may have been better...but which one was first??? Besides...I couldn't get my boss to let me off that late...I was originally planning on doing both Mountain View and LA...but the rat bastards claimed they needed me TOO much (so where is my fooking raise then???)...oh, and LA doesn't have Alcatraz or the Golden Gate Bridge!!!!

ahhhh well....

:sex: I like this one...

:jump2: and what, is this guy's ass on fire????

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Originally posted by Mark Smith Nice to know a few others at the Tower Ballroom 86 gig. Support was by the Wonder Stuff and the Mondays. My mate who was pissed after 2 pints of dodgy lager managed to chuck a glass ash tray at Bez. I don't think it would have made much difference!I have a tape of the 94 Powerhouse gig when Hooky offered out the DJ, anyone on the board at that gig?

Didn't enjoy that one as much as the three Tower gigs, but the tape is really good !

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Originally posted by Mark Smith Nice to know a few others at the Tower Ballroom 86 gig. Support was by the Wonder Stuff and the Mondays. My mate who was pissed after 2 pints of dodgy lager managed to chuck a glass ash tray at Bez. I don't think it would have made much difference!I have a tape of the 94 Powerhouse gig when Hooky offered out the DJ, anyone on the board at that gig?

Didn't enjoy that one as much as the three Tower gigs, but the tape is really good !

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Originally posted by Mark Smith Nice to know a few others at the Tower Ballroom 86 gig. Support was by the Wonder Stuff and the Mondays. My mate who was pissed after 2 pints of dodgy lager managed to chuck a glass ash tray at Bez. I don't think it would have made much difference!I have a tape of the 94 Powerhouse gig when Hooky offered out the DJ, anyone on the board at that gig?

Didn't enjoy that one as much as the three Tower gigs, but the tape is really good !

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Originally posted by Mark Smith Nice to know a few others at the Tower Ballroom 86 gig. Support was by the Wonder Stuff and the Mondays. My mate who was pissed after 2 pints of dodgy lager managed to chuck a glass ash tray at Bez. I don't think it would have made much difference!I have a tape of the 94 Powerhouse gig when Hooky offered out the DJ, anyone on the board at that gig?

Didn't enjoy that one as much as the three Tower gigs, but the tape is really good !

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Originally posted by Mark Smith Nice to know a few others at the Tower Ballroom 86 gig. Support was by the Wonder Stuff and the Mondays. My mate who was pissed after 2 pints of dodgy lager managed to chuck a glass ash tray at Bez. I don't think it would have made much difference!I have a tape of the 94 Powerhouse gig when Hooky offered out the DJ, anyone on the board at that gig?

Didn't enjoy that one as much as the three Tower gigs, but the tape is really good !

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Originally posted by Grigory Rasputin, the mad mystic of Petrograd > Originally posted by April> My favorite gig has to be the only one I have been to! :p> The Area One concert in "LA". It is true that it is not exactly in LA, actually it was about an hour or so from downtown in the damn mountains. It was beautiful though. Jeff you should have went to LA instead of SF, I heard it was a better show. And Gillian was there :)> > I loved the concert because I was so close and because it was NewOrder. It was the first and only time I saw them but I was upset that the whole concert wasn't them.> > Now that they decided not to come to the US :( I guess I will have to HOPE they will someday again!>

Aye...it may have been better...but which one was first??? Besides...I couldn't get my boss to let me off that late...I was originally planning on doing both Mountain View and LA...but the rat bastards claimed they needed me TOO much (so where is my fooking raise then???)...oh, and LA doesn't have Alcatraz or the Golden Gate Bridge!!!!

ahhhh well....

:sex: I like this one...

:jump2: and what, is this guy's ass on fire????

First doesn't mean a thing my Texan friend, who had Gillian? :p Ok I am done teasing you about that! :)

I love SF though, nice city!!!

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SHIT! It happened again, double post!

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One more time!

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Originally posted by Allen Jarvis > Originally posted by John Harrington> Best gig for me has to be Woolwich Corenet 87. Excellent set and because it was only advertised in the Standard on the day, the crowd was made up of proper NO fans.> > I think "The Wonder Stuff" supported which was good as it was befroe they got that horrid violin

Think it must've been advertised in the Standard before the day, as I went and lived in Colchester at the time. Admittedly, it was a late call, though I do think it was in the NME, or Sounds, or whatever.

All I can remember is the Wonder Stuff getting bottled, and my then girlfriend screaming for people to stop throwing things.. .

I remember it well - the Wonder Stuff seemed to take it all in their stride though.

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System7 - Glastonbury Bicycle powered stage 98. Hillage still has his finger on the pulse, the mans a amazing.

Were not worthy

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System7 - Glastonbury Bicycle powered stage 98. Hillage still has his finger on the pulse, the mans a amazing.

Were not worthy

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