Turn will be released on February 20 - CONFIRMED

Am very surprised it is to be finally released even though it was included on Singles.

Just hoping for some of the GIAUE mixes i've yet to hear will be included.

They surely won't be doing any TV promotion for it though will they?

My Favorite song from WFTSC..

BALDRICK wrote: My Favorite song from WFTSC..

My favorite song from New Order.

WFTSC was the soundtrack to my whole year. Many of the songs seemed like they were written about things going on in my life at the time, and Turn was definitely the climax.

Patrick wrote:

BALDRICK wrote: My Favorite song from WFTSC..

My favorite song from New Order.

And mine, I would like to see a remix of Turn but also the remixes of Guilt... but knowing Warner they will come up with some way to piss us all off.

Every time I hear the riff from Turn I start singing 'Sleeping My Day Away' by DAD.

If John Denver can claim songwriting credits....

I Think that GIAUE will includes on Turn Single

Post about.

But you don't have the sleeve...

You can't play a sleeve !

CTB wrote:

Spotnick wrote: Wait a minute, stern is a BIRD?

I thought it was a qualifier... english lesson #1 of the day...

And the guys who corrects me speaks spanish... oh the shame...

;)

Not Stern, Nicos - Tern. It's a seabird

It is a tern but terns belong to the family sternidae which is where the confusion may arise.

There are 44 species of tern so which one? Black Noddy anyone?

Spotnick wrote:

By 'Eck! My Neck! wrote: Am I the only one who ISN'T too overjoyed about them milking the album and bringing out a fourth single? This is going to spoil the nice run they have had with all of the three previous singles reaching the top 21 in the UK: something no other album of theirs has managed. Turn is going to spoil it and stiff around the 40s or summat now. That law of diminishing returns is going to kick in with a vengeance.

And what's the fucking point in hoping for [dance] remixes of it anyway? It's a guitar song and most of the times all [dance] remixes of New Order "guitar" songs (yes, even Regret but most especially that dreadful one of 60MPH) are a bit on the sucky side.

It's the 5th song released from the album though ;)

But you see, I don't know if the press release was right, but it was considered as a single for SINGLES, not for the album..

Actually, it's the 31st single released from SINGLES, isn't it?

Spotnick wrote:

gerry jamieson wrote: GIVE ME ONE DECENT REASON WHY THEY ARE RELEASING THIS SINGLE? AND AS FOR REMIXES....WHO GIVES A FUCK, THEY NEVER GET LISTENED TO AFTER YOU HEAR THEM ONCE, IM NOT INTERESTED IN SOME PRICK I HAVE NEVER HEARD OF FANNYING ABOUT WITH A NEW ORDER TRACK AND IM MEANT TO BE PLEASED WITH IT???? MAYBE I HAVE THE JANUARY BLUES

Then you are simply not interested in singles.

The idea behind the single is to get airplay to promote the ALBUM and to keep New Order in the talk because they are working for a 2006 album AND are nominated for a Grammy, as simple as that.

Plus, I have no idea what will be on it, but if it's the remixes of Guilt Is A Useless Emotion, I'm sure a lot of people will be happy.

i simply am interested in singles....NEW SINGLES. not fleecing punters for more money wake up facts are facts they are riping us off

If the remixes of Guilt are on it I'll be well happy!!!!!!!!!

The Gullibility of us all, heh?! I suspect a certain functional dyslexia, a tern of events that allow's us to associate images completely different from ...... what ever! Turn is a superior track, almost country and wesTern even - a vocal source, that seems Nashville inspired almost - don't be insulted Elvis and Costello both frequent/d there, plus 'they' rather like Martin H's drum licks. If country is the the root of rock - and NO are restarting their band, this is not shameful - but hopefully it annoy the small minded! To source from music, from wherever is ok by me.

Alistair wrote:

Oooh, me brain's capsizing... if they do another 3x7" only job I'll be livid.

If they do that again, I can vouch for at least one scathing letter being written from my desk and sent to Warner's.

it will only be released on minidisc........

Ben wrote: . . . .the edit on Singles, which I suppose will be the single version (seems logical to me...), really spoils the song, which was already short enough for the radio.

Agree totally - i don't understand why they now seem so keen to bastardize good songs to pare them down to 3-4 minutes - it wont get any extra radio play; the edits sound reletavely crap & leave out most of the best instrumental sections & often the best lyrical sections. Anyone hearing Turn for the first time in edit form will not be impressed, wheras the album version would have people phoning radio stations asking for it to be re-played.

This is NewOrder - the people who released 7minute pop songs - whats the problem??????

turn= N.O. vs. mr. orbison.

For Alistair, I would say: If WFTSC is the 1st single off 'Singles' then why the heck didn't GIAUE appear on 'Singles'? It was only nomintaed for a Grammy.

As I told mysilentface in an e-mail, if New Order had released 'Singles' like Pet Shop Boys released 'Discography' in 1991 (with two NEW unreleased songs) THEN I could consider WFTSC the 1st single off 'Singles'. But all those songs on 'Singles' have been released already.

They shoulda put out 'Turn' and THEN 'Singles' (with GIAUE on it) and then released it after the Grammys or something.

In my opinion, and I'm sure I'm alone here, but 'Turn' is the fifth single off the album 'WFTSC"....and so what? Def Leppard had SEVEN singles off 'Hysteria' - Janet Jackson had SEVEN singles off 'Rhythm Nation 1814' and what, Gwen Stefani has had at least 4 singles off 'Love.Angel.Music.Baby'.

Just a thought, that's all. I'm another NOOL who's bitching this Monday. :)

f the remixes (I cannot buy singles for the remixes alone, and definitely not for the trimmed down radio mixes) how about some B-sides?? I loved Player in the League, Sabotage, Behind Closed Doors from the Get Ready singles. WFTSC.. nothing to make me want to buy a single. :\ohwell:

Unfortunately, the consensus on this website (I believe) is that they are "saving" the B-sides for the new album.

The thought of THAT is another thread entirely!!! :)

A few new B-sides would be awesome, ESPECIALLY if they were instrumentals. Those New Order, Electronic, Revenge, and The Other Two B-sides circa 1988-1993 were simply AMAZING!

Come to think of it, I ought to make a CD of those only.

CuanaD wrote:

Anyone hearing Turn for the first time in edit form will not be impressed, wheras the album version would have people phoning radio stations asking for it to be re-played.

Oh, come on, lobbing about 10-20 seconds off the beginning of the song will hardly make people dislike it! Still has the same verses, choruses and tune!

Andy

Mr Discography wrote:

CuanaD wrote:

Anyone hearing Turn for the first time in edit form will not be impressed, wheras the album version would have people phoning radio stations asking for it to be re-played.

Oh, come on, lobbing about 10-20 seconds off the beginning of the song will hardly make people dislike it! Still has the same verses, choruses and tune!

Andy

The Singles edit ruins it.

Patrick wrote:

Mr Discography wrote:

CuanaD wrote:

Anyone hearing Turn for the first time in edit form will not be impressed, wheras the album version would have people phoning radio stations asking for it to be re-played.

Oh, come on, lobbing about 10-20 seconds off the beginning of the song will hardly make people dislike it! Still has the same verses, choruses and tune!

Andy

The Singles edit ruins it.

Not so much ruins it but it should have been left alone.

MTO wrote: Unfortunately, the consensus on this website (I believe) is that they are "saving" the B-sides for the new album.

The thought of THAT is another thread entirely!!! :)

A few new B-sides would be awesome, ESPECIALLY if they were instrumentals. Those New Order, Electronic, Revenge, and The Other Two B-sides circa 1988-1993 were simply AMAZING!

Come to think of it, I ought to make a CD of those only.

yeah, I know I'm dreaming when I say I want B-sides for WFTSC and will have to wait like the rest of us for the new album to get a taste.. Just want some new NO tracks to listen to.. those B-sides must be pretty good for all of them to be album worthy eh... high expectations are set now for me.

Yeah, a CD of all those would be nice. :D

MTO wrote: As I told mysilentface in an e-mail, if New Order had released 'Singles' like Pet Shop Boys released 'Discography' in 1991 (with two NEW unreleased songs) THEN I could consider WFTSC the 1st single off 'Singles'. But all those songs on 'Singles' have been released already.

They shoulda put out 'Turn' and THEN 'Singles' (with GIAUE on it) and then released it after the Grammys or something.

In my opinion, and I'm sure I'm alone here, but 'Turn' is the fifth single off the album 'WFTSC"....

Agreed! Technically, Turn is the 31st single off SINGLES.

More seriously, it doesn't make sense to speak about whether a single is off the album it originally appeared on or off the singles compilation that followed a few months later, does it?

Now, for those still wanting to be anal, please observe that the design (font, etc.) of the WFTSC single was similar to that of the WFTSC album, not to that of SINGLES, which obviously makes it a single to promote the album and not the compilation.

I preferred the g'd ol' times when New Order released non-album singles and albums with no singles on it.

Technically, WFTSC and Turn are singles from WFTSC Album, not Singles. (At least the way I see it). They're being used to PROMOTE Singles at this point in time, but they're still from WFTSC, as they are originally from the album. Singles is a compilation of just that, their singles...therfore releasing a single from Singles, well, it just gets too complicated!

They're just getting extra promotion for Singles through WFTSC and Turn. It's just like when a new DVD is released in the middle of an album era, and you see promotion for the DVD on the singles. Doesn't mean the singles are FROM the DVD, just promoting it. Since New Order didn't include anything new on Singles, they're just using the rest of the WFTSC singles to promote it.

That's the way I see it, at least.

Dave

PHD wrote:

Patrick wrote:

Mr Discography wrote:

CuanaD wrote:

Anyone hearing Turn for the first time in edit form will not be impressed, wheras the album version would have people phoning radio stations asking for it to be re-played.

Oh, come on, lobbing about 10-20 seconds off the beginning of the song will hardly make people dislike it! Still has the same verses, choruses and tune!

Andy

The Singles edit ruins it.

Not so much ruins it but it should have been left alone.

Fair enough, i've just taken the time to listen to the 'Singles' edit - its not bad at all!(far better than all the radio edits they've had in the last few years) - only problem is the instrumental section between the 1st chorus & second verse - sounds very 'cut&paste' (from 1.30-1.45ish). Anyway it does sound radio friendly, so hopefully . . . .