Excess All Areas, the NOOL Interview with Hooky, part Two

ENVIOUS OF MANCHESTER writes:-" That was bloody excellent,the frankest interview I've read NO or otherwise! "

superb interview - great reading, thanks a lot for that gem!

Yep - cheers guys. Quality job.

Face Up is one of my all time favourite New Order songs (that throw away 80's disco tune coupled with the most cynical twisted lyrics), have I committed some faux pas by saying that?!

And yeah, great interview, just a shame that Alex has always been a pr*ck when I've met him (especially as I must have been to 150+ gigs that he has been to since 1985 and every time I've met him he has been arrogant without, well, without any reason to be).

Jake

this has been great reading. many thanks gents!

Spotnick wrote: So I do have one point in common with Hooky... David Sultan gave me a lift too

Although his "restaurant" was McDonald's that night

That was the only thing open I think..I was starving to death

Once again, cheers!

SHEDi xxx

to jake

alex...arrogant....u must be havin a laugh!

alex may be many things (pissed , bladdered, arseholed, doing a sweep, taping etc) but he is never arrogant in my book.....just get him a pint of cider and he will be a friend for life!

hats off to the guys for sortin this interview....

we need more stuff like this....get sick of reading the same old story in interviews

i just hope something comes out of the hooky vaults and we get plan k and a good as it can be jd dvd.

Perhaps he's thinking of Al

Hello

just to put a few minor points to put the record straight.

Bumped into Hooky a few weeks ago at my place of work and had a chat............where he managed to call me a bastard for selling off his tapes.........and where i put him straight on how i got them.

In the kitchen at NOS rehearsal room in Cheetham Hill whilst i was bass player/2nd guitarist in Revenge, me an his royal highness were having a clear out of crap off the kitchen shelves which contained bits of amp, bits of guitar, bits of clone theory pedal, bits of white label vinyl and cds, and on the top shelf a box of tapes.

Most of this went into the bin{yeah i know but it was junk}and my helper that day was temporarily devoid of the ability to make a rational decision due extenuating substances............and was saying sling it..........bin ...bin ............sling it........and when i opened the box of gems, that was greeted with the same bin it.

Of course i said no way and kept it........which brings us back to our meeting the other week.........when i told him the circumstances this was the reply ..............oh fuck.

Forward 10 years later........

And id had my use from this box and had already converted my faves and thought the wider world would like to hear these masterpieces.............hence ebay......little realising that they would attain legendary status.

To be honest if id known he wanted em back he could have had them.{or outbid The Sultan}.

Anyway hes a cheeky fucker and a real good laugh and i wouldnt have changed any of it.......

Brian Whittaker

I don't need telling twice

oldmonkey wrote: PH – I’m not criticising you saying you’re a trainspotter, it’s like some guy in Idaho is gonna go “hey put that 24 Hour Party People on” {Adopts American accent}

Quality work lads.

Fantastic to see LE Roberts got a mention too.

:\pimp3:

Great work from all concerned.

Lot's going on but what stood out for me is how it confirms the lack of interest on New Order's part to deal with their catalogue and the past ie. reissues, remasters, old gigs etc. They can't be bothered, and even Hooky's comments would indicate that they just think that only the 'trainspotter' element would be interested. This is despite the fact that a large part of New Order's fans are self-confessed anoraks and hence any effort on their part would probably mean a profitable return. It's that old prickly/stubborn/contemptuous side of them, which makes for great music, just not second pressings of it. Lesser bands have their catalogues expanded after all but not with this one. Which is fine, a shame perhaps but in keeping with the band so that's all there is to it really. It ain't gonna happen never...

Wow, very impressive you two! How the 'eck did you manage to come up with all those great questions, just like that??!

and I’m now on a par with Tony Blackburn {laughs}

oh, hooky

Best interview I've read in a while; well done, guys!

oldmonkey wrote: This repeat mention of Face Up in the interview, it wasn't under any circumstances a track that we were asking for, or even one that Hooky mentioned. It was used by me as an example of tracks that had been developed live rather than being written and recorded before performing, and as a result of my mentioning it, it became used as a reference for discussion about older tracks for the rest of the interview.

Nobody wants to hear it again!

I disagree ... but a good read anyway

04 AUG 85 International Centre - Toronto, Canada 65 min Elegia, Subculture, The Village, Sunrise, We All Stand, As It Is When It Was, Love Vigilantes, 586, Age Of Consent, Temptation, Ceremony, The Perfect Kiss [ I was at the Aug. 4 1985 concert in Toronto. The whole thing was videotaped at the side of the stage by local radio station CFNY. They later played part of the audio of this tape on air. Peter Hook introduces Age of Consent by asking the crowd " Have any kids? No? Then fuck ya." He also says during the programmed intro to The Perfect Kiss "Saves use doing it I suppose." Thanks to James for his account of this concert! ]

Here's a clarification from Paul Boyd... (Thanks!)

[ With apologies to James, I am the person who videotaped the concert. I was permitted to with do so with permission of Rob Gretton and the band who furnished me with a stereo board feed. Previously, I also had done a stereo television simulcast with Durutti Column, another Factory artist here in Toronto. I was not affiliated with CFNY in any way. CFNY did indeed record the concert with a full 24 track analog audio recorder via mobile truck, and it was sent to the band to remix. It was remixed and edited ( the band did not want a live radio recording available of " As It Is When It Was " as the BROTHERHOOD album had not been released yet ) and the station aired it a number of times. The videotape that was made has since been remastered to digital dvd to preserve it. I own the copyright of that recording. Though there are no plans to release it commercially, Steve Morris told me after he'd viewed it the the band liked the recording much more than the Tokyo show "Pumped Full of Drugs". " We played better in Toronto and we liked the look of your video better, a bit darker looking ". ]

Taken from water rat gigography.

Is this the video tape handed to Hooky in Toronto?

Yes, New Order at the International Centre was what was given to Hooky. "International Low" is the performance from Toronto recorded in 24 track, on August 4, 1985. Details in 2007......

pb

paul boyd wrote: Yes, New Order at the International Centre was what was given to Hooky. "International Low" is the performance from Toronto recorded in 24 track, on August 4, 1985. Details in 2007......

pb

Hello Paul,

was this a single video camera recording, any chance of a capture from the video to whet our appetite?

Superb interview.And as you had been drinking ALL day this is pretty dam good in the questions you have asked.Well done lads.

paul boyd wrote: Yes, New Order at the International Centre was what was given to Hooky. "International Low" is the performance from Toronto recorded in 24 track, on August 4, 1985. Details in 2007......

pb

Official dvd release in 2007?

Midnight Blue wrote:

paul boyd wrote: Yes, New Order at the International Centre was what was given to Hooky. "International Low" is the performance from Toronto recorded in 24 track, on August 4, 1985. Details in 2007......

pb

Official dvd release in 2007?

Hopefully thats what he's implying

Cracking interview also!