Discography: Jetstream

In the work to update the New Order Discography, it's time to seek feedback on the Jetstream single. This is the entry I have at the moment:

12": UK 2005 (London Records NUOX14) 8:21 Jetstream (jacques lu cont remix) 3:47 Jetstream (radio edit) 7:42 Jetstream (richard x remix) 7:35 Jetstream (tom neville remix)

12": UK 2005 (London Records PRO15401) [promo] 7:04 Jetstream (arthur baker remix) 6:21 Jetstream (arthur baker remix acapella) 7:42 Jetstream (richard x remix)

12": UK 2005 (London Records PRO15402) [promo] ["J1"] 7:35 Jetstream (tom neville remix) 6:42 Jetstream (tom neville dub)

2x12": US 2005 (Warner Bros. 9362-42813) [Disc 1] 8:21 Jetstream (jacques lu cont remix) Jetstream (tom neville remix dub) 7:42 Jetstream (richard x remix) 7:43 Krafty (the passengerz revolution club mix) [Disc 2] 7:04 Jetstream (arthur baker remix) 7:35 Jetstream (tom neville remix) 9:01 Jetstream (pete heller remix - phela dub)

CD5: UK 2005 (London Records NUOCD14) [promo] ["J" on silver] 3:47 Jetstream (radio edit) 3:38 Jetstream (richard x radio mix) 7:42 Jetstream (richard x remix)

CD5: UK 2005 (London Records NUOCD14) 3:47 Jetstream (radio edit) 3:38 Jetstream (richard x radio mix)

CD5: UK 2005 (London Records NUCDP14) Jetstream (jacques lu cont 2nd remix) 7:42 Jetstream (richard x remix) 7:35 Jetstream (tom neville remix) 7:04 Jetstream (arthur baker remix) Jetstream (ana bridge vox) Jetstream [video] Jetstream

CD5: US 2005 (Warner Bros Records 42813-2) 3:47 Jetstream (radio edit) 8:21 Jetstream (jacques lu cont remix) 7:42 Jetstream (richard x remix) 7:04 Jetstream (arthur baker remix) 7:35 Jetstream (tom neville remix) 9:01 Jetstream (pete heller remix - phela dub) 7:43 Krafty (the passengerz revolution club mix) 8:12 Krafty (dj dan dub)

CD5: AU 2005 (Warner Bros. 5046787462) 3:47 Jetstream (radio edit) 8:21 Jetstream (jacques lu cont remix) 7:42 Jetstream (richard x remix) 7:35 Jetstream (tom neville remix) 7:04 Jetstream (arthur baker remix) Jetstream (original)

CD5: UK 2005 (London Records PRO15414) [promo] ["J"] * CDR: UK 2005 (London Records) [promo] ** 7:42 Jetstream (richard x remix) 7:04 Jetstream (arthur baker remix) 7:35 Jetstream (tom neville remix) Jetstream (tom neville dub) 3:47 Jetstream (radio edit) Jetstream (richard x remix edit) Jetstream (original) * Jetstream (album version) **

CD5: IS 2005 (London Records PRO15390) [promo] CD5: JP 2005 (London Records PRO15390) [promo] CD5: UK 2005 (London Records PRO15390) [promo] 3:47 Jetstream (radio edit)

CDR: UK 2005 (Warner Bros.) [promo] 3:42 Jetstream (radio edit - jeremy wheatley)

CDR: DK 2005 (Warner Music) [promo] CDR: UK 2005 (London Records) [promo] 8:18 Jetstream (jacques lu cont remix)

CDR: UK 2005 (London Records) [promo] 3:47 Jetstream (radio edit) 3:38 Jetstream (richard x radio mix) 7:42 Jetstream (richard x remix) 7:04 Jetstream (arthur baker remix) 7:35 Jetstream (tom neville remix)

CD5: US 2005 (Warner Bros. PRO-CD-101583) [promo] 3:42 Jetstream (radio edit) 3:34 Jetstream (richard x remix - edit) 5:21 Jetstream (album version) 5:13 Hey Now What You Doing (album version)

CDR: US 2005 (Warner Bros.) [promo] 8:31 Jetstream (jacques lu cont dub) 8:59 Jetstream (pete heller dub #2) 8:30 Jetstream (pete heller bonus dub)

VHS: UK 2005 (London Records) [promo] 3:40 Jetstream

The scans I have that will be in the Discography are:

• NUOCD14/NUCDP14
• NUOX14
• PRO-CD-101583
• PRO15401/PRO15402
• UK 1tr CDR "Wheatley"
• UK 1tr CDR "Lu Cont"
• JP 1tr CD5 promo
• PRO15414 + UK 7tr CDR
• US 3tr CDR
• UK VHS

Let me know if I have missed anything.

/TLV

i have these variations:

CD: UK 2005 (London Records NUOCD14) 3:47 Jetstream (radio edit) 7:42 Jetstream (richard x remix)

CD: PRO15390 3:42 Jetstream (radio edit)

[brown]Ally[/brown] wrote:

NOOLigan wrote: CD: UK 2005 (London Records NUOCD14) 3:47 Jetstream (radio edit) 7:42 Jetstream (richard x remix)

Are you sure the above isn't:

CD5: UK 2005 (London Records NUOCD14) 3:47 Jetstream (Radio Edit) 3:39 Jetstream (Richard X Remix Edit)

?

Jetstream (Richard X Remix Edit) it is.

[brown]Ally[/brown] wrote:

TLV wrote: There is another London Promo CD-R for Jetstream with the ususal generic white insert ("NEW ORDER" and the track title + time):

CDR: UK 2005 (London Records) [promo] 3:46 Jetstream (Jacques Lu Cont Edit) *

* - Unique edit of the 8:19 original mix.

Hey Ally! You got this edit?

Can anybody tell me the difference between the Jacques Lu Cont Mix and Jacques Lu Cont 2nd Mix ?

For NUCDP14, substitue 'Ana' Vocal Bridge' (whatever that is) with Original version, ie. the album version.

Oh, also for NUCDP14, the first track is Juques le Cont remix, not the 2nd Jaques le Cont remix.

[brown]Ally[/brown] wrote:

TLV wrote: CD5: IS 2005 (London Records PRO15390) [promo] CD5: JP 2005 (London Records PRO15390) [promo] CD5: UK 2005 (London Records PRO15390) [promo] 3:47 Jetstream (radio edit)

The PRO15390 was actually a stamped CDR and not a silver CD5. I was fooled by it at the time but the disc underside is definitely green. I assume you listing the different countries here is to denote international stickers on the sleeve rather than an actual foreign pressing?

If memory serves me correctly (must check my own copy), there is a CDR and silver CD5 version of PRO15390 - I'll need to check...

Nick King wrote:

[brown]Ally[/brown] wrote:

TLV wrote: CD5: IS 2005 (London Records PRO15390) [promo] CD5: JP 2005 (London Records PRO15390) [promo] CD5: UK 2005 (London Records PRO15390) [promo] 3:47 Jetstream (radio edit)

The PRO15390 was actually a stamped CDR and not a silver CD5. I was fooled by it at the time but the disc underside is definitely green. I assume you listing the different countries here is to denote international stickers on the sleeve rather than an actual foreign pressing?

If memory serves me correctly (must check my own copy), there is a CDR and silver CD5 version of PRO15390 - I'll need to check...

Confirmation of this is appreciated.

So the JP 1tr promo is the UK release with a JP sticker, just like the Krafty equivalent?

/TLV

How about the digital download Bunker Mix?

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depthcharge wrote: How about the digital download Bunker Mix?

:\pimp3:

It seems this mix is untraceable... It cannot be found anywhere. Where did you got it from?

musicoloog wrote: Can anybody tell me the difference between the Jacques Lu Cont Mix and Jacques Lu Cont 2nd Mix ?

I still would like to know the differences between these two, as all the versions I got are the same...

Thanks Ally!

musicoloog wrote:

depthcharge wrote: How about the digital download Bunker Mix?

:\pimp3:

It seems this mix is untraceable... It cannot be found anywhere. Where did you got it from?

It was promoted as a Napster DD exclusive although I don't know that it's listed any more. Think it was just the original band mix of Jetstream (ie no Ana involvement), the same mix as per the original album demo.

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depthcharge wrote:

musicoloog wrote:

depthcharge wrote: How about the digital download Bunker Mix?

:\pimp3:

It seems this mix is untraceable... It cannot be found anywhere. Where did you got it from?

It was promoted as a Napster DD exclusive although I don't know that it's listed any more. Think it was just the original band mix of Jetstream (ie no Ana involvement), the same mix as per the original album demo.

:\pimp3:

I'll need to check later but I think the Bunker Mix and the original demo have significantly different timings.

FtotheDoubleOff wrote: For NUCDP14, substitue 'Ana' Vocal Bridge' (whatever that is) with Original version, ie. the album version.

Not strictly true, the 'Ana Vocal Bridge' version is ever-so-slightly-not-that-you'd-notice different, in that she sings one extra line during the "we'll be dimming the lights" bit...

depthcharge wrote: How about the digital download Bunker Mix?

Yeah, I haven't quite figured out how to deal with the digital downloads yet...

/TLV

depthcharge wrote:

musicoloog wrote:

depthcharge wrote: How about the digital download Bunker Mix?

:\pimp3:

It seems this mix is untraceable... It cannot be found anywhere. Where did you got it from?

It was promoted as a Napster DD exclusive although I don't know that it's listed any more. Think it was just the original band mix of Jetstream (ie no Ana involvement), the same mix as per the original album demo.

:\pimp3:

Could anybody send me this version by chance?

TLV wrote:

depthcharge wrote: How about the digital download Bunker Mix?

Yeah, I haven't quite figured out how to deal with the digital downloads yet...

/TLV

It would be a good idea to mention the official downloads in the discography. Well, at least I would be pleased, as there are more and more official download-only remixes/versions available in this "WWW Era". Some downloads are even harder to obtain than the oldfashion import 12"... For instance the Guilt Is A Useless Emotion 'single', over here the only version released is the album version!
(I guess I have to move to the UK or USA... or open a bankaccount in those countries... )

musicoloog wrote:

TLV wrote:

depthcharge wrote: How about the digital download Bunker Mix?

Yeah, I haven't quite figured out how to deal with the digital downloads yet...

/TLV

It would be a good idea to mention the official downloads in the discography. Well, at least I would be pleased, as there are more and more official download-only remixes/versions available in this "WWW Era". Some downloads are even harder to obtain than the oldfashion import 12"... For instance the Guilt Is A Useless Emotion 'single', over here the only version released is the album version!
(I guess I have to move to the UK or USA... or open a bankaccount in those countries... )

I can sort you out a copy of the US promo if you wish, Contact me via email addy in my profile.

I can sort you out a copy of the US promo if you wish, Contact me via email addy in my profile.

I will send a mail...

TLV wrote:

depthcharge wrote: How about the digital download Bunker Mix?

Yeah, I haven't quite figured out how to deal with the digital downloads yet...

/TLV

Doesn't seem to be a standard protocol for how to manage them in other band discographies.

Perhaps only list tracks or collections that are unique (or rare?) to digital download services? ie. If they are also easily found on standard formats, they don't get listed.

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Old Blue wrote:

depthcharge wrote:

musicoloog wrote:

depthcharge wrote: How about the digital download Bunker Mix?

:\pimp3:

It seems this mix is untraceable... It cannot be found anywhere. Where did you got it from?

It was promoted as a Napster DD exclusive although I don't know that it's listed any more. Think it was just the original band mix of Jetstream (ie no Ana involvement), the same mix as per the original album demo.

:\pimp3:

I'll need to check later but I think the Bunker Mix and the original demo have significantly different timings.

My copy of the Bunker Mix clocks in at 5.40.

Pash wrote: My copy of the Bunker Mix clocks in at 5.40.

Is there a chance you can send me this one?

Pash wrote:

My copy of the Bunker Mix clocks in at 5.40.

Then it is different to the album pre-mix version (without Ana) which is more like 5.05 mins.

Where did you get this mix by the way? Did you actually buy it off Napster?

:\pimp3:

Debate raged over the authenticity of this Jetstream promo too:

J-E-T Greece

:\pimp3:

...and you bid !...

depthcharge wrote:

Pash wrote:

My copy of the Bunker Mix clocks in at 5.40.

Then it is different to the album pre-mix version (without Ana) which is more like 5.05 mins.

Where did you get this mix by the way? Did you actually buy it off Napster?

:\pimp3:

Yep - off Napster. Just checked the actual 'audible time' and it clocked in at 5.35 min.

musicoloog wrote:

Pash wrote: My copy of the Bunker Mix clocks in at 5.40.

Is there a chance you can send me this one?

Check your inbox...

Pash wrote:

musicoloog wrote:

Pash wrote: My copy of the Bunker Mix clocks in at 5.40.

Is there a chance you can send me this one?

Check your inbox...

I just did. Thanks a lot!!!

[brown]Ally[/brown] wrote:

depthcharge wrote: Debate raged over the authenticity of this Jetstream promo too:

J-E-T Greece

:\pimp3:

It's in Sultan's discography and I've bought genuine promos from that seller before so I'd say it's genuine.

(I think)

Well, just because it is in David's discography, or the Niagara one either for that matter, doesn't mean that it's not a bootleg... The SLY GR promo is genuine, but there is another SLY promo from GR with slightly different sleeve that is under suspicion of being a boot.

I have deliberatly left out this Jetstream promo because I am very suspicious of it. One thing I would like to know is what three DMC megamixes are on there. AFAIK, there has only been one DMC megamix. But I have lost touch with the DJ services since I retired as a DJ...

/TLV

Just a note on the UK 12" Promo PRO 15401 - The Arhur Baker Acapella mix is listed at 6:21 but is in fact only 5:12.

Just got my copy of this Jetstream promo from Greece. It seems that the reason why there are DMC mixes on there is that Warners commisioned 3 WFTSC album preview megamixes ---1 of which is on this site in the multimedia section ----WFTSC Megamix (5:08)

Looks like its genuine and needs inclusion into the discography.

I was upset you see wrote: Just got my copy of this Jetstream promo from Greece. It seems that the reason why there are DMC mixes on there is that Warners commisioned 3 WFTSC album preview megamixes ---1 of which is on this site in the multimedia section ----WFTSC Megamix (5:08)

Looks like its genuine and needs inclusion into the discography.

Good for you it's a genuine one What's the tracklisting of this promo again? I saw it also briefly on eBay last week, I thought it was a bootleg. So I'm just curious...

I was upset you see wrote: Just got my copy of this Jetstream promo from Greece. It seems that the reason why there are DMC mixes on there is that Warners commisioned 3 WFTSC album preview megamixes ---1 of which is on this site in the multimedia section ----WFTSC Megamix (5:08)

Looks like its genuine and needs inclusion into the discography.

You've got more specific details?

/TLV

Tracklisting :-

 "Jetstream-Remixes"

1. Jetstream - Album version 5:20
2. Jetstream - Radio Edit ( Jeremy Wheatley ) 3:42
3. Jetstream - Richard X Remix (Edit) 3:34
4. Jetstream - Richard X Remix 7:36
5. Jetstream - Arthur Baker Remix 7:00
6. Jetstream - Tom Neville Remix 7:30
7. Jetstream - Tom Neville Dub 6:37
8. DMC Megamix 1 5:12
9. DMC Megamix 2 6:33
10. DMC Megamix 3 8:29

States For Internal Listening Only! Individually numbered

If you need more info or image please shout

I was upset you see wrote: Tracklisting :-

 "Jetstream-Remixes"

1. Jetstream - Album version 5:20
2. Jetstream - Radio Edit ( Jeremy Wheatley ) 3:42
3. Jetstream - Richard X Remix (Edit) 3:34
4. Jetstream - Richard X Remix 7:36
5. Jetstream - Arthur Baker Remix 7:00
6. Jetstream - Tom Neville Remix 7:30
7. Jetstream - Tom Neville Dub 6:37
8. DMC Megamix 1 5:12
9. DMC Megamix 2 6:33
10. DMC Megamix 3 8:29

States For Internal Listening Only! Individually numbered

If you need more info or image please shout

Ahha... now I know why I wasn't that interested... no new remixes of Jetstream except for the three DMC Megamixes, which I never prefer to listen to...

TLV wrote: You've got more specific details?

I was thinking more in the line of the megamixes, tracks etc.

/TLV

TLV - Sorry about that

Tracks inc and order are the same on all 3 so they seem to have done the New Order thing and edited down the original full length mix to create edited versions.

WFTSC Krafty GIAUE Hey Now What You Doing Turn Jetstream Working Overtime