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Was surprised this morning to see this on the US iTunes store. Track listing is:

iTunes Originals 0:06 A Door Opening In a Darkened Room 1:30 Transmission (iTunes Originals Version) 3:42 The First Album "Movement" Was Very Tentative 1:01 Dreams Never End 3:15 That's One of the Legends Anyway 1:17 Blue Monday 7:24 Another One of Our Dance Rock Things 0:56 Bizarre Love Triangle (iTunes Originals Version) 4:46 It's Most Notable for the Quality of Its Sleeve 0:17 The Perfect Kiss 4:50 There Was No Great Plan 0:18 Love Vigilantes (iTunes Originals Version) 4:13 We Don't Really Know What We're Doing 0:31 True Faith 5:50 Then It All Started Going Wrong 1:17 Round and Round 4:32 "Run Wild" Is a Very Personal Track 1:34 Run Wild (iTunes Originals Version) 4:20 A Total Shock 1:31 Regret 4:08 People Like the New Numbers 0:47 Waiting for the Sirens' Call (iTunes Originals Version) 5:23 I Find It Very Pleasurable 1:01 Love Will Tear Us Apart (iTunes Originals Version) 4:02

The titles you don’t recognize aren’t songs, they are interview clips.

iTunes Music Store UK iTunes Music Store USA iTunes Music Store Canada iTunes Music Store Germany iTunes Music Store Japan iTunes Music Store France

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Anybody listen to these "iTunes Original" versions yet?

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Mr disco 99 wrote: Anybody listen to these "iTunes Original" versions yet?

Yes...they were done by Digital and re: Order...

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bought it yesterday, it's excerpts of them talking about the songs or the times etc. Plus your ol' favourites and then enough reworking of tracks eg transmission blt sirens love vig. run wild lwtua for itunes only i believe. session style.

when was that lot recorded then???????

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ages and ages ago

i've had them for ages

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I've not go Ichoons.

Will they be in Apple format? You can't get MP3s from there, can you?

How much?

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BIGINOIL wrote: I've not go Ichoons.

Will they be in Apple format? You can't get MP3s from there, can you?

How much?

download iTunes from apple, download the tunes you want, in iTunes click on Advanced click convert to MP3, bobs yer unkle.

(just checked that, it doesn't work with downloaded tunes!)

Alternatively, burn to CD, rip the CD back on your PC as MP3

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Jed Stephens wrote: Alternatively, burn to CD, rip the CD back on your PC as MP3

Yup, or you can also do this via a Virtual Burner, which converts it to any other format - very useful - costs about 35 dollars, though (which is only about 17 quid due to the weak dollar)! :thumb:

:smoking:

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They're all exclusive session versions (unless my hearing's finally given up the ghost - possible!), which David Ball's already mentioned.

I believe they were recorded a couple of years ago?

So, very nice - new versions of familiar songs! :thumb:

:smoking:

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I purchased the album tonight. I'm listening to it right now. :thumb:

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under 6 bucks for only the tracks that are iTunes originals? heck yeah i bought em. lovin' tonight's playlist!

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[orange]State of Love and Trust [/orange] wrote: ages and ages ago

i've had them for ages

Yup, they recorded it at the same time as they did the Jimmy Kemmel show...

Hooky told Kamar in his interview back in May 2005.

Can't beleive it took that long!

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Oh, needless to say, the links on the first post and front page will pay for the NOOL hosting, so please use them ;)

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BTW, that is the best version of Run Wild out there... so much better than the album version.

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Absolutely - though I guess a lot on here won't agree with Barney's "should have been a single" statement...

WFTSC sounds good too. Never been a fan of New Order doing LWTUA, but at least this one is "c'mon!!" free.

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Old Blue wrote: Absolutely - though I guess a lot on here won't agree with Barney's "should have been a single" statement...

WFTSC sounds good too. Never been a fan of New Order doing LWTUA, but at least this one is "c'mon!!" free.

I was kind of missing them! :laugh:

:smoking:

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Nice new Versions.

Spotnick wrote: Oh, needless to say, the links on the first post and front page will pay for the NOOL hosting, so please use them ;)

Why do you do 6 Links? For me all go to iTunes Germany.

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so these are actually NEW studio recordings?

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Had a quick look on Soulseek last night.

No-one sharing these then? :skeptic: :lol:

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confusion wrote: Nice new Versions.

Spotnick wrote: Oh, needless to say, the links on the first post and front page will pay for the NOOL hosting, so please use them ;)

Why do you do 6 Links? For me all go to iTunes Germany.

So they changed it... because usually it liked to the store.

Oh well.

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mark reed wrote: so these are actually NEW studio recordings?

Yes

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El Jarvo wrote: Had a quick look on Soulseek last night.

No-one sharing these then? :skeptic: :lol:

Too lazy putting them on CD and ripping them into mp3 I guess ;)

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Spotnick wrote:

El Jarvo wrote: Had a quick look on Soulseek last night.

No-one sharing these then? :skeptic: :lol:

Too lazy putting them on CD and ripping them into mp3 I guess ;)

I'm too lazy to download them in the first place!

Thanks very much to my benefactor though. He knows who he is! :nod:

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You gonna be on MSN tonight then, Al.

Just asking, like :whistles:

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Looking forward to this. Alas I'm stuck at work and can't get to Itunes from here... something to look forward to tomorrow when I get in mind ;) Cheers

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BIGINOIL wrote: You gonna be on MSN tonight then, Al.

Just asking, like :whistles:

Would do, if I knew yer MSN!

Listened to this on the way home. Bit undecided. Lurv Vigilantes best of the lot for me, think Transmish sounds too brittle.

Most interesting thing in the i/v's was Barney laying the myth to rest that Steve wrote said song about his daughter. Fcuking got it proper wrong though when he said it should've been a single. Like fcuk it should've!

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Spotnick wrote:

confusion wrote: Nice new Versions.

Spotnick wrote: Oh, needless to say, the links on the first post and front page will pay for the NOOL hosting, so please use them ;)

Why do you do 6 Links? For me all go to iTunes Germany.

So they changed it... because usually it liked to the store.

Oh well.

I tried the other links, because I thought it's cheaper in Dollar, but I had always to pay 9,99 Euro.

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Is it worth buying the album (for the comments) or just the new Originals?

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Just got the originals for $6.00. It didn't seem worth getting the rest.

Barney sounds very nasal, but still enjoyed it. Not as good quality as the BBC sessions. What happened to temptation and regret? As I seem to remember they played them as well. Or maybe that was with the live audience?

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Just bought it for £7.99. Not bad at all. Some specially recorded stuff there..Barney doing LWTUA without the COME ONs!! RUN WILD,BLT (the Klay Klass,er K-Klass version),TRANSMISSION!

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Like No Other wrote: Is it worth buying the album (for the comments) or just the new Originals?

Well, I did pay for them, and I could release them without any problem.

I'd say buy the 6 songs only... there is nothing new in the interviews, though I didn't listen in full.

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Well, I did pay for them, and I could release them without any problem.

Is this in reference to the interview bits, or the whole thing? Will this be downloadable on media.neworderonline.com?

I'd say buy the 6 songs only... there is nothing new in the interviews, though I didn't listen in full.

Well, not since 'Confusion' came out, but it's good to hear Bernard talking.

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The Happy One wrote:

Well, I did pay for them, and I could release them without any problem.

Is this in reference to the interview bits, or the whole thing? Will this be downloadable on media.neworderonline.com?

I'd say buy the 6 songs only... there is nothing new in the interviews, though I didn't listen in full.

Well, not since 'Confusion' came out, but it's good to hear Bernard talking.

I was thinking about a podcast more than a pure download ;)

Let's say I don't want anybody to lose money neither. But I doubt they consider the interview bits as being what would force anyone to buy the whole thing.

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Our kid's an Apple Head - she bought them and burnt me a cd which is now spinning merrily in my car. So ya boo to the Pirates, I've gone legit :thumb:

it sounds like Barney's interviews were recorded about the time of the last US tour. (and then exclusively repeated verbatim for the Sun last weekend).

Run Wild is aright - one of my favourite tracks anyway and a cleaner version than they managed at any of the gigs, but still not clinical by any means.

The version of Love Vig is storming.

The interviews are good, some new stuff there amongst the usual tales. I'll probably burn another cd without them on though.

I would be interested to know more about the sessions that produced these tracks.

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BIGINOIL wrote:

I would be interested to know more about the sessions that produced these tracks.

Weren't they simply invited to studio by Apple on April 25th, 2005 to do it for iTunes, since they were in America?

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And were all the tracks recorded that day?

If so, that's quite a days work!

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BIGINOIL wrote: And were all the tracks recorded that day?

If so, that's quite a days work!

I'm sure they had prepared well before that. All they had to do was to play 6 songs and chitchat and then have 2 years of mixing and mastering.

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It was a busy day for them, They played about 4 songs on Jimmy kimmel, and then played the Itunes set when the audience left.

I hope people know this is just live songs with no audience.

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Turn Jim wrote: It was a busy day for them, They played about 4 songs on Jimmy kimmel, and then played the Itunes set when the audience left.

I hope people know this is just live songs with no audience.

Thought so. But Kimmel's show was aired 04/29, i.e. live.

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Live earlier in the day :lol:

They played Krafty, Lwtua, Temptation and I think regret??? on Jimmy Kimmel But Jimmy only aired Krafty and half of Lwtua. Now that I think about it they might have played 6 songs but I cant remember?

They were busy, 3 shows in 3 days. Oakland, Jimmy kimmel & Palm Springs.

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Bought the whole thing. Not bad. Kick 'Run Wild' into touch though - ranks just above WIFM.

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Is it just me or would Run Wild be a top class New Order song if there weren't so many religious references in it? The religious angle (Jesus, Jehovah, Sin etc) always well and truly annihilates any "cool" factor in it for me. Even more so than any of Barney's earlier and more embarrassing lyrical efforts.

It's a shame because the arrangements and mix on the Steve Osborne version are brilliant.

There's a time and a place for religious lyrics... so I can make sure I'm not around to hear them.

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I've never had a problem with the appropriation of religious rhetoric to accentuate secular emotions, or even the emotions of secular people anyway, but Run Wild takes that appropriation to a new level, for me.

Anyone who has enjoyed the experience of parenthood will tell you that a whole new palate of emotion develops and suddenly phrases and ideologies that never made sense start to feel more relevant. Anything that challenges previously firm opinions is an awkward thing, and that awkwardness can be felt in this lyric. The strange appearance of such language in a New Order song jars, as do the strange feelings that a new parent experiences.

This is why the rumour that the song was about the Morris' child struck a chord with me; God forbid (see what I did there?) I should ever find myself in that position, but I'm sure I would feel like praying to any and all branches of religion and witchcraft to make my child better. Anyone would, no matter how strongly they opposed or rejected religion before this point in their lives.

'If Jesus comes to take your hand, I won't let go' is such a lovely line. That one phrase conveys, if you think about it, the helplessness of caring about someone who is ill. You would hold on as tightly as you could, but to what? There are just some things you just can't fight. Some forces are irresistible. For me, the other religious references in the song act to support that line, so although they jar when they first appear, it works well in the end.

The bass in the middle eight is fantastic too.

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love how that all just rolled off your tongue Biggie - but parenthood angle very very true:love:

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What are you on about?

I spent hours on that.

:laugh:

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some good spelling there too col.

interested to know why you think that burning off a copy of a purchased set of itunes for someone else is legit though

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hibster wrote: some good spelling there too col.

interested to know why you think that burning off a copy of a purchased set of itunes for someone else is legit though

You're allowed to burn a certain number of copies as part of the download agreement.

My sister has promised to delete the original files anyway, and as they were purchased for me there is no moral problem either.

In case anyone from Apple is reading this you can check by looking at her account.

Her name is Jeanette Hibster :nod:

(fucking snitch)

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Wouldn't worry about it....total artist income from soulseek and iTunes is exactly the same.

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:laugh:

just listened to Transmission and it was only when Bernard started singing that I realised I wasn't listening to the Control cast members version!

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And having now listened to the absolutely shit soundtrack version of the film cast playing Transmission, I am non-plussed. It's not a difficult song to play or sing, how can it be so badly butchered? It's terrible!

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Just purchased this but track 16 says it's corrupt and won't download!!

Bugger! :banghead:

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oldmonkey wrote: And having now listened to the absolutely shit soundtrack version of the film cast playing Transmission, I am non-plussed. It's not a difficult song to play or sing, how can it be so badly butchered? It's terrible!

Sorry for my ignorance, but what's "non-plussed"?

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Can anyone provide this collection at all?

And while I'm at it, can anyone point me in the direction of a download for "In Session"? This iTunes collection and "In Session" are proving to be absolute bastards to locate.

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Canuck21 wrote:

oldmonkey wrote: And having now listened to the absolutely shit soundtrack version of the film cast playing Transmission, I am non-plussed. It's not a difficult song to play or sing, how can it be so badly butchered? It's terrible!

Sorry for my ignorance, but what's "non-plussed"?

Not impressed.

Ryan: buy them :nod:

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Biginoil wrote:

Canuck21 wrote:

oldmonkey wrote: And having now listened to the absolutely shit soundtrack version of the film cast playing Transmission, I am non-plussed. It's not a difficult song to play or sing, how can it be so badly butchered? It's terrible!

Sorry for my ignorance, but what's "non-plussed"?

Not impressed.

Ryan: buy them :nod:

I would, but I'm in Australia and I think they're inaccessible for me from the iTunes store. As for In Session, I would, but I'm finding it impossible to locate. Even on eBay.

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Biginoil wrote:

Canuck21 wrote:

Sorry for my ignorance, but what's "non-plussed"?

Not impressed.

Common misconception that one. Non-plussed actually means perplexed or confused.

PS Ryan: The New Order iTunes Originals have been available to download from iTunes Australia for ages.

:\pimp3:

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I know that, I was simply saying what Tim meant.

;)

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i actually recorded the iTunes Originals back in April 2005 -- yes -- the day after they played the jimmy show.

we recorded 7 songs in just a few hours! so even though they were done in the studio, they are very much live performances...

spent a long time mixing tho... :-)

hope you enjoy (at least some of) them!

-tE

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depthcharge wrote:

Biginoil wrote:

Canuck21 wrote:

Sorry for my ignorance, but what's "non-plussed"?

Not impressed.

Common misconception that one. Non-plussed actually means perplexed or confused.

Can't it mean two different things?

a.) To understand something would be a plus.So to be confused by it would qualify as not a plus, hence non-plussed.

or

b.) To be impressed by something would be a plus.So to not be impressed by something would not be a plus, hence non-plussed

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johnny wrote:

depthcharge wrote:

Biginoil wrote:

Canuck21 wrote:

Sorry for my ignorance, but what's "non-plussed"?

Not impressed.

Common misconception that one. Non-plussed actually means perplexed or confused.

Can't it mean two different things?

a.) To understand something would be a plus.So to be confused by it would qualify as not a plus, hence non-plussed.

or

b.) To be impressed by something would be a plus.So to not be impressed by something would not be a plus, hence non-plussed

Does this have something to do with Maths? Confusing us septics over here:confused2:

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Anybody noticed that the iTunes Originals version of True Faith is a 'restored' version...? At least my version sounds as if there are no 'skips' anymore... :nod:

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Tony - unless I mis-counted, there are six new recordings that ended up in the iTunes Originals album, and you wrote that seven were recorded. Which is the seventh? Thanks!

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Junco Partner wrote: Tony - unless I mis-counted, there are six new recordings that ended up in the iTunes Originals album, and you wrote that seven were recorded. Which is the seventh? Thanks!

I have the same question :scratch: And I still can't figure out the accurate date of recording!! Can anyone help? :bow:

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musicoloog wrote: Anybody noticed that the iTunes Originals version of True Faith is a 'restored' version...? At least my version sounds as if there are no 'skips' anymore... :nod:

Probably the same master used for the french version of "International". That would be the two disc, with temptation '87, lets go, etc.

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if you want any of these sessions let me know , i will get it for you, e-mail me at SOLANKIL@coned.com

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