Barney & Steve name new project after Keitel flick....

...no reunion, then, but at least Cozzie will be happy:

http://http://uk.news.yahoo.com/itn/20071006/ten-new-day-for-new-order-ea4616c_1.html

Link wont work for me.

Stupid fucking piece of shit internet....

...gist is that Steve and Bernard are now working on a 'project' called Bad Lieutenant and there ain't gonna be no gig for Tony.

Bad Lieutenant?

Cozzies going to have to go back into counselling.

That was a really great movie.

luck to Barney And Steve with the new Project

Who's betting it's Electronic with better drumming?

Hey! Give the guys a break! At least, they are up with a new project. It's definitely better than none.

Good luck to Bad Lieutenant.

Indeed*!*

Big Black wrote: Who's betting it's Electronic with better drumming?

I support them whatever it is

Mrs. Disco wrote: I support them whatever it is

If it had Barney DNA in it, you'd buy it.

New Order is no more, viva Bad Leutenant. If they can't carry on under New Order name, let them be whatever they want. At least it's a motion. I bet there'll be a lot of "guests": Paul Simonon, Midge Ure, Damon Albarn, Franz Ferdinand....

Barney's getting on my tits a bit recently but I'll probably buy it, wonder if they're looking for a bassist?

It's a real shame as they could have had a few more years in them all yet ? I just hope they change there mind and do a gig for Mr Wilson ?

If it had Barney DNA in it, you'd buy it.

Indeed

Spotnick wrote:

Big Black wrote: Who's betting it's Electronic with better drumming?

That would minimize the input of Johnny Marr, don't you think?!

That's a good thing IMO; never was a fan of Johnny Marr. Never liked The Smiths, but do enjoy a little bit of Morrissey.

Sorry folks, but i find this to be really sad news. Sounds like it really is the end..

At least they didn't name it "The Piano"... that would have been about as inspired as "Electronic"

Maybe it is another Nazi reference...? Maybe Bernard was high? Maybe he really IS a big Keitel fan, Harvey was a tour-de-force in that movie. Cozzie was right after all.

they should call themselves The New New Order

I would rather listen to 'bad lieutenant' than Hookys crap DJ'ing

Does a drug bloated Barney stagger around ass naked in a glut of Catholic guilt at the end of each performance?

I just think it sounds like a light-hearted dig at Hooky - the bad lieutenant - bernard humour

CuanaD - D-plus wrote: I just think it sounds like a light-hearted dig at Hooky - the bad lieutenant - bernard humour

I was thinking exactly the same....

Is this what we call the bloody end?

fantastic news. ya-hoooooooooooo!

bad lt. vs three (b)asses, i'll put my money on barney & steve! ...ya heard!

Sweet! (on the name)

I've gotten used to seeing provocative images on the film, so I have no problem tolerating them. As a matter of fact, I like seeing things that are controversial.

I have been waiting to post this on NOOL for a long while.

Big Black wrote: Who's betting it's Electronic with better drumming?

It might be, yes...

Burt Reynolds wrote:

CuanaD - D-plus wrote: I just think it sounds like a light-hearted dig at Hooky - the bad lieutenant - bernard humour

I was thinking exactly the same....

Add me on this one... It is the first thing that came to my mind...

I was wondering...

Wire is a band made of four persons. They made an album without the drummer. So they called themselves Wir.

Even if they are four on stage, New Order are three, in most of our minds, since Gillian left. So, Order for Barney and Steve would have been a good option...

But they preferred Bad Lieutenant, as Hooky was found guilty of intelligence with the enemy against the New Order...

Jiphy wrote: But they preferred Bad Lieutenant, as Hooky was found guilty of intelligence with the enemy against the New Order...

it suits perfectly! :D

CuanaD - D-plus wrote: I just think it sounds like a light-hearted dig at Hooky - the bad lieutenant - bernard humour

me too. i dont think there really will be any such project. this is just Barney's humour..

Best of luck to them!

redken wrote:

CuanaD - D-plus wrote: I just think it sounds like a light-hearted dig at Hooky - the bad lieutenant - bernard humour

me too. i dont think there really will be any such project. this is just Barney's humour..

Ditto. Though I bet someone will see a nazi connotation in this project title as well.

Me too, that has to be a krafty dig. Either way, Bad Lieutenant is a great name.

Also, do they have lieutenants in the German army ? C'mon, gotta keep the long running joke going.

Maybe this is project that could bring Gillian back in the studio? I really would like to hear her light handed synthersizer sound again. And after that Hooky....

Mrs. Disco wrote: I support them whatever it is

I would too. Something is better than nothing whatsoever.

They are taking the piss.......Steve will be chortling away about how this throwaway remark has been seized on and is now international news.

It conjure up one thing of interest though. You could only really pronounce New Order in one way.

Is this Bad Lootenant or Bad Leftenant?

His Holiness, The Pope wrote: Does a drug bloated Barney stagger around ass naked in a glut of Catholic guilt at the end of each performance?

So long as Barney doesn't wank over everyone on front row.I'll get me mac!!

If you've seen the movie....from the scene where keitel is harassing the 15 year old girls he catches driving

"Does your daddy know you have his car (substitute =band )out tonight? Does he know? Turn around and show me your ass"

yeah...its kinda like that :D

I'll believe it when the cd hits the stores....other than that I think its just a humourous stab at Hooky.

It sounds like the real deal to me. Bad Lieutenant is a great name for a band, or a good name anyway. I don't think it passes the humor test as a 'joke'.

I'm still curious what is such a big deal to make them stop working together after thirty years. Or maybe thirty years together is enoiugh to drive anyone batty.

you know, the soul never gets old,its the damn shell that does. so yer looking at a bunch of 17-28 year olds in middle aged shells. guess which one is 17.

[magenta]cozmonite61[/magenta] wrote: Sweet! (on the name)A I have been waiting to post this on NOOL for a long while.

Why? It's not as good as the gay tr...

Al, oh Aaaaallll - come on Jarvo, it's been a while...

Bernard could've just meant 'this is my project, but Steve is making some guest appearances' that's all...

Agree that I'll believe it when I hear it. Maybe Bernard will get inspired again by the conflict.

People shouldn't be negative towards Hooky or Marr, or perpetuate the image of the conflict between the members. None of these people have anything left to prove, and they all deserve and have earned respect. Let them have fun, and do what they want and not what they are expected to do.

Chris Nash wrote: You often find that the foot soldiers are those with more talent.

Not always, not always.

After all, both Monaco and The Other Two were so much more inventive than most of the tracks from Electronic...

Good, but not more or less inventive. None comes close the New Order.

I can't wait until Freebass and Bad Lietenant tour or do a festival together.

Burt Reynolds wrote:

CuanaD - D-plus wrote: I just think it sounds like a light-hearted dig at Hooky - the bad lieutenant - bernard humour

I was thinking exactly the same....

me too

El Jarvo wrote: Quite like the name 'Bad Lieutenant'. Singular name for a duo, interesting.

re: the film - I would love to have been there when they pitched that one to Holywood! Excellent film, but boy, twas depressing and not something I'd revisit again in a hurry!

It's not a Hollywood film, btw. It's an independent film filmed in pre-Giuliani NYC. You can see the difference.

Chris Nash wrote: "Sumner said: "I'm working on some stuff at the moment. Steve is gonna be involved with it, and it's a project called Bad Lieutenant."

Joke or not, hasn't anyone noticed the (maybe) 'subconscious' "I'M working on some stuff... Steve is gonna be involved with it."

Maybe the new band name should be: 'Arrogant General and trusty Lance Corporal '?

ok but it could also be that this "bad lieutenant' is really just a Bernard solo work that will feature Steve in a couple of tracks

in fact, whoever made this interview should have asked for more info, now we have even more questions...lame journalists

I got a movie poster of the film. It shows a naked Harvey Keitel... So this project will be interesting :D .

I think (and hope) the name Bad Lieutenant is just a joke... There would be terrible problems with spelling in non-English countries. Electronic were going to be named Sell Your Body, I'm sure Bernard will find the real name for this project later, when it will be really taking form... I suppose he doesn't even want a shared project like Electronic was with Marr, that's why he's saying Steve will be involved... it won't be Bernard an and Steve, it will be Bernard with Steve and others, mainly a true solo project, really curious to hear that...

Who is betting that whatever any of them do will suck without all of them.

At thier age, they all need to stop bitching and realize that they are only good sounding when they are newOrder.

And just another suggestion, "you might want to return to your roots" its the reason most of us started listening to you in the first place.

New Order to reform wouldn't that be nice I think Hooky would stick to his little band FREE BASS or would be another STOP AND GO I love New Order too bits I will be honest with you it would be really nice cause if it isn't true then I will be like this or I will end up Missy

Hooky's typical fan

Alex James is involved in this too, isn't he? Read his column in the Independent. Bernard's been turning up at the farm in what Alex calls 'a sensible Mercedes'

They could always get a granny to play piano for them and they can call themselves Lieutenant Pigeon.

What's that? Someone's already done that??

Bere wrote: I got a movie poster of the film. It shows a naked Harvey Keitel... So this project will be interesting :D .

PS: I wonder if Bad Lieutenant is Barney and Steve's take on Sarge.

Perhaps the Bad Lieutenant is Barney himself. He seems to be the one with the ironic twist to his humor that keeps himself chuckling.

Good luck to Bernard and Steve with their new project. I will still see them in concert if they tour the US.

[magenta]cozmonite61[/magenta] wrote:

El Jarvo wrote: Quite like the name 'Bad Lieutenant'. Singular name for a duo, interesting.

re: the film - I would love to have been there when they pitched that one to Holywood!

It's not a Hollywood film, btw. It's an independent film filmed in pre-Giuliani NYC. You can see the difference.

Paul Schrader explains 'pre- Giuliani NYC History in the Bonus Disc of Scorses's '76 Taxi- Driver. The Streets around Times Square were Cleaned up. Not its creative edge.

Mind's eye has H. Keitel, as Sport, shot up his last night in Taxi- Driver or w/ arms placed across forever @ the Apartment's entrance.

at least they didn't call it 'alice doesn't live here anymore.'

I don't know if Barney was joking or not. He does have his "Shimmer" project to tend to and in another interview he mentioned working on two projects. I hope he is working with Stephen.

Most of all, I hope Mr. Hook stops bashing his former bandmates. It makes him look bad and takes away from whatever work he does put out with Freebass. It is wise not to burn bridges behind you. His recent comments to the press have left a very bad taste in my mouth and I for one an rooting for Steve and Barney to come out with something AWESOME. That will be the best revenge. Perhaps even Gillian will come back to the fold. Whatever it may be, I support Barney 1000%.

Well it's like my girlfriend and I, we get into it and each time it's more and more painful and it gets old. Sometimes you have to stick to your guns, which ever side it is. However a reform should not be with the name of New Order, how about "crystal" we break easy. Just goes to show you New Order is just like the rest of us, human.... Hope she comes back to me, miss ya JP.

alrighty then.

POOP!

SCHRING!