I talked to Pete Wylie before the Bad Lieutenant-Gig in Liverpool. He said freebass would release a single this week.
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And in other news
Peter Hook will be interviewed on Radio 6 Music tomorrow morning at 9.10am by Shaun Keaveney about the Unknown Pleasures tour and Freebass.
The interview will feature the first ever radio play of a track from the Freebass EP.
Single out this Friday and will be playing the 100 club in London on 1st June!! From gigsandtours website
jonathan short wrote: Ticket link for above http://www.gigsandtours.com/gat/event.asp?artist=freebass&e%7Cpromoter=372&orderby=date&filler1=gigsandtours&filler2=gtemail
It's there, have just purchased it and have no idea how to download the tracks. Have I bought a CD?????
Looking for help on the site ...
Sundecay wrote: It's there, have just purchased it and have no idea how to download the tracks. Have I bought a CD?????
Looking for help on the site ...
Looks like they're running into the same problems as to when I bought the Man Ray EP...
It'll be a digital download, but when you go to download it, there's an "Access Denied" message?
Wait for the e-mail with the link to the zip file to arrive... Click on that, and it'll be okay... Downloading now... :-)
You can listen to the song here called "The Milky Way"
http://www.bbc.co.uk/6music/shows/shaun_keaveny/
The song starts at 2:22
Guess I'm waiting for the e-mail with the link to land then ... Have checked the website Files section and it shows no downloads found .. have mailed the site so fingers crossed something will come back with the link soon!
Nick King wrote: Although I only got the one track...
I bought the complete EP and received a link to one long "continuous" 24 minute MP3 file rather than the four individual files I thought I'd be getting. Unfortunately it makes listening to individual songs a real hassle as you constantly have to fast forward through the file to the point you want.
Also, it's a small point but for 99p per track and in this day and age we should really be getting 320 bit-rate files, not 192. Preferably though I'd rather just pay a little more for an actual CD 
will the Freebass stuff be getting a physical format release?
Musically it obviously sounds much more polished than the demos we heard a couple of years ago. Live Tomorrow You Go Down (I think?) caught my attention pretty much immediately as it's the electro-ey one. The first three are guitar driven numbers... I'll have it on heavy rotation for the next few days before forming any opinions. Milky Way sound does sound pretty good though.
Tucker wrote:
Nick King wrote: Although I only got the one track...
I bought the complete EP and received a link to one long "continuous" 24 minute MP3 file rather than the four individual files I thought I'd be getting. Unfortunately it makes listening to individual songs a real hassle as you constantly have to fast forward through the file to the point you want.
well worth the wait,howard marks GENIUS!
Cant wait for the fookin Album ! :D
You dont know this about me.......
I guess it's the trend to release singles digitally nowadays. It would be good if the upcoming album had a physical format release, by the way.
PS- I saw this on the news section of the site about the EP- "The EP is available as a one track continuous download and as a four track download with two bonus tracks. The four tracks are also available as individual downloads."
nUTS -is this working yet or do u still get problems?
Regards Rocket Mick
Ps is the BL single available as 7 inch yet?
leather_girl wrote: I guess it's the trend to release singles digitally nowadays. It would be good if the upcoming album had a physical format release, by the way.
PS- I saw this on the news section of the site about the EP- "The EP is available as a one track continuous download and as a four track download with two bonus tracks. The four tracks are also available as individual downloads."
Typical, so I bought the wrong download???
Seriously, though, it would help if the descriptions as to what you're actually buying were a lot better - i.e. what the package included (CD, MP3, individual tracks, etc)??? If the album's going to be released as both a physical and a virtual product, then how will we know the difference?????????????
Nick King wrote:
leather_girl wrote: I guess it's the trend to release singles digitally nowadays. It would be good if the upcoming album had a physical format release, by the way.
PS- I saw this on the news section of the site about the EP- "The EP is available as a one track continuous download and as a four track download with two bonus tracks. The four tracks are also available as individual downloads."
Typical, so I bought the wrong download???
Seriously, though, it would help if the descriptions as to what you're actually buying were a lot better - i.e. what the package included (CD, MP3, individual tracks, etc)??? If the album's going to be released as both a physical and a virtual product, then how will we know the difference?????????????
Come to think of it, the shop section doesn't list much details at the moment.
leather_girl wrote: PS- I saw this on the news section of the site about the EP- "The EP is available as a one track continuous download and as a four track download with two bonus tracks. The four tracks are also available as individual downloads."
I didn't check their News section regarding the file types available I just went directly to the "Shop" to purchase. Unfortunately it didn't warn me on the EP page it's just one long file otherwise I would have bought them individually.
I went on past experience from iTunes/Amazon that when you buy an EP or Single, you're buying 3-4 individual tracks. Not one long audio file 
I don't believe the Manray EP was one continuous file either, it was four individual files.
Nick's absolutely right though, there could be a wee bit more info on the product pages.
The only difference I can see between the two is right at the bottom where it says 'Continuous Digital Download' on one and '6 track ep' on the other.
Without being aware that there are 2 different ones who would think to check for that?
Ah well it's a lesson in paying attention to detail for me.
The first one is the CONTINIOUS one.....then 4 individual tracks then the SIX TRACK EP is THE LAST ONE.Now we just need one BRAVE bassole to download the LAST one to confirm that you get the 6 tracks SPLIT( might be 4 and 2?)
Rocket Mick
...as M T said
Now where is my DIGITAL DOWNLOAD FOR DUMMies manual?:D
Shoplifting is MUCH easier!
320 or 192?
Went ahead and tried to get the six individual tracks.Just waiting for anything to happen.Cheers Chad for offer of help.
Hi
Hooky wanted the EP up as a continuous piece and there was a short period where the 6 track wasn't available. Apologies for any confusion.
If anyone would prefer the 6 track to the one piece, please contact the site on
http://mail@fac51thehacienda.com and we'll sort it out.
Cheers Chad
Thanks for the info Chad - that's pretty good service from a music provider for once and I'm sure many will appreciate the help.
The six tracks are really good. Nice that there's some variety in this release and that the whole thing is likely to live up to everyone's expectations.
Certainly well worth it in my view.
Looking forward to the album now!
Got all the way through to payment section and my order was replaced with Dave's from Warwick order for Manray Download including email address and address - full of flaws this website it would seem 
trying to purchase but wont let me choose a delivery address that isn't in the UK.
Anyone know if we can buy/download this if we are in the States?
chad wrote: Hi
Hooky wanted the EP up as a continuous piece and there was a short period where the 6 track wasn't available. Apologies for any confusion.
If anyone would prefer the 6 track to the one piece, please contact the site on
http://mail@fac51thehacienda.com and we'll sort it out.
Cheers Chad
Hey Chad - can you also look into this issue as well please.
Thanks Dennis R
Hi sorry to be thick but I can't find the full 6-track listing, only the standard four I was expecting. Any info on the 2 bonus tracks gratefully received.
Anybody else having trouble actually purchasing this?
Ordered the 6 track ep,go thru' checkout procedure & fill out all fields but when get to payment method,it won't let you do anything!! Annoying me now
Dennis Remmer wrote: Hey Chad - can you also look into this issue as well please.
Thanks Dennis R
While you're at it Chad, you need to display more information about the music formats that people are purchasing. There was no upfront indication whether the Man Ray tracks were downloads, vinyl or what. It couldn't be assumed they were all downloads as you had CDs on the same page.
Dennis, I was able to bypass the UK-only roadblock by just entering a UK shire and postcode at the end of an Aussie address. Not pretty but it worked.
Can anyone advise whether "Two Worlds Collide" will be available on CD/vinyl at any point?
:\pimp3:
same thing with me, I purchased the 4 songs and I can't download anything.
This is the e-mail that I got, but where is the link to download the songs.
Total for this Order: £3.96
Products on order: 1 x Freebass - The Milky Way Is Our Playground - £0.99 SKU: hac2-2
1 x Freebass - You Don't Know (This About Me) - £0.99 SKU: hac2-1
1 x Freebass - Dark Starr - £0.99 SKU: hac2-3
1 x Freebass - Live Tomorrow You Go Down - £0.99 SKU: hac2-4
depthcharge wrote: Can anyone advise whether "Two Worlds Collide" will be available on CD/vinyl at any point?
:\pimp3:
Damn good question - as has been stated previously, 192Kbps for an MP3 is pretty poor nowadays, so I'd rather have a physical format (of some description) for the album...
I know people are upset with the store, the continuous mix, etc. but did anyone actually notice that this EP is quite good?
Factor wrote: I know people are upset with the store, the continuous mix, etc. but did anyone actually notice that this EP is quite good?
Awaiting a replacement MP3...
Nick King wrote:
Factor wrote: I know people are upset with the store, the continuous mix, etc. but did anyone actually notice that this EP is quite good?
Awaiting a replacement MP3...
Awaiting my first mp3... Order status says 'payment received' but nothing else. No e-mail with download links in...
:\ohwell:
Pash wrote:
Nick King wrote:
Factor wrote: I know people are upset with the store, the continuous mix, etc. but did anyone actually notice that this EP is quite good?
Awaiting a replacement MP3...
Awaiting my first mp3... Order status says 'payment received' but nothing else. No e-mail with download links in...
:\ohwell:
Still waiting for the download link too!
Now when you go to submit an order on the site you get this...
MEGA FUCKING FAIL.
Come on - sort it out.
Dennis R
I'm somewhat interested in the track that involves Tim Burgess (unfortunately, the only track I'm interested in from the EP), but I'd be happier if the EP (and the individual songs) were available on iTunes. (Last time I checked, Bad Lieutenant's songs were available on iTunes.)
I don't have a credit card (I'm a student) but I can buy an Itunes gift card thingy if I really wanted a track or two (or more), so the fact that the EP seems to be available only through the site is preventing me from buying that one track.
(If you were to ask me, "Then how do you buy your CDs and DVDs off amazon?" well, I use either cash on delivery, or I pay at the convenience store[you can do that here].)
But if offering the EP through the site was a decision on part of the band, then I respect that.
Hi
We had a few technical problems yesterday, we are working to resolve these this morning.
Would anyone unable to download the ep from the site contact us on:
http://mail@fac51thehacienda.com
Similarly for anyone who has downloaded the continuous ep and would prefer the 6 track, we will replace. Just get in touch.
We are considering a physical release for those that want it.
Hooky wanted this track on the site only so no iTunes for the moment
We are really sorry that you've had problems. Stick with us, we'll sort them out.
Chad
Even the above fookin' link doesn't work!!
Patience wearing very fookin' thin! Again,creating history.....a site offering purchases,but where you can't actually buy anything!! Ingenious! 
kel wrote: Even the above fookin' link doesn't work!! Patience wearing very fookin' thin! Again,creating history.....a site offering purchases,but where you can't actually buy anything!! Ingenious!
Mail link: mail@fac51thehacienda.com
For those that have already bought the track, but have not yet received an e-mail, try this (I don't have anything to do with the site, btw):
- In the top right-hand corner (once you've logged in), you should see the following details:
{Your username} | "Log Out"
You can actually click on {Your username} which should (really) have something saying "My profile" or "My account" - it took me a while to realise that you could actually click on it... :p
This brings you to a screen saying "My Account".
Click on "Files" - hopefully there will be a link to the files you can download...
Of course, that assumes that the purchase was successful... :)
El Jarvo wrote: Anyone, er, stuck up a torrent yet?
I was just typing the same, and I read your tiny grey post, Mr J. I think this one deserves to be torrented extra fast with its hilarious money-driven history .
Like No Other wrote: Got all the way through to payment section and my order was replaced with Dave's from Warwick order for Manray Download including email address and address - full of flaws this website it would seem
I hope you also got his credit card details... :\ohwell:
it is Hooky's way of getting Revenge on the general public - he is upset at everyone for downloading his music for free, so now he is purposefully taking our money and not giving us any music.
perfect symmetry. perfect revenge.
I don't want a download. 
Even my good friend Chris O. stopped making downloads for his customers and went back to physical soundcarriers.
I ordered/paid for the EP too but there are no files showing up in my downloads tray (under "My Account->Files").
What a piece of shit website! Obviously put together by a bunch of fucking amateurs.
Emailed them yesterday but still no reply.
I would STRONGLY advise no one else to order through this website!
JJ wrote: I ordered/paid for the EP too but there are no files showing up in my downloads tray (under "My Account->Files").
What a piece of shit website! Obviously put together by a bunch of fucking amateurs.
Emailed them yesterday but still no reply.
I would STRONGLY advise no one else to order through this website!
this is coming from your vast experience setting up a website to work across the world, accept credit cards securely, transfer files... etc.
Freebass is a side project, put together by a bunch of friends, working out a new website that they put together and are ill experienced in, but have been friendly and trying to work through the kinks...
So in short, fuck off
JJ wrote: I ordered/paid for the EP too but there are no files showing up in my downloads tray (under "My Account->Files").
What a piece of shit website! Obviously put together by a bunch of fucking amateurs.
Emailed them yesterday but still no reply.
I would STRONGLY advise no one else to order through this website!
I registered & ordered 40 hours ago and nothing in my "FILES" box...
according to cerysmatic:
"Instrumental versions are also available at www.fac51thehacienda.com."
I don't find them 
Hlne's friend wrote: according to cerysmatic:
"Instrumental versions are also available at www.fac51thehacienda.com."
I don't find them
That same site said that the EP will be available from the 29th of March. If that is the case, then maybe that's why people who ordered aren't getting their downloads yet. In any case, I think FAC51 needs to be more specific on the site (format, release date, whether there are conditions for purchasing).
0_o wrote: Well, the music doesn't get leaked and traded for free this way
There's already a blog that allows you to listen to 3 songs from the EP. http://mog.com/Neill/blog/1861262 3 songs except the Tim Burgess track.
Hey it was a bug, it's been fixed, now non British people can order too. I quite like this EP, especially Live Tomorrow which sounds like early electro New Order...
BTW shouldn't the news of this release appear on NOOL home page?
Burt Burterson wrote:
El Jarvo wrote: Anyone, er, stuck up a torrent yet?
I was just typing the same, and I read your tiny grey post, Mr J. I think this one deserves to be torrented extra fast with its hilarious money-driven history .
I think Hooky lied to us, its been a few days now, and still not on Demoniod
fuck all that noise...
I reckon I'll just stick to listening to my shiny new Goldfrapp CD...
Hélène's friend wrote: Instrumental versions are also available at www.fac51thehacienda.com.............
An instrumental of Dark Starr is a must....Marks' rant gets a bit irritating after three or four times.
Noticed the 6 track 192k version has gone now and is replaced by the continuous version (who actually wants that?) and 4 separate 320k versions......why wasnt the 6 track version at 320k?
Will there be .FLAC versions by the end of the week?
I may be a cynic but there will be no double dipping from me unless a CD is made available.
Tock wrote:
Noticed the 6 track 192k version has gone now and is replaced by the continuous version (who actually wants that?) and 4 separate 320k versions......why wasnt the 6 track version at 320k?
what a disaster!
EdelBrock wrote:
JJ wrote: I ordered/paid for the EP too but there are no files showing up in my downloads tray (under "My Account->Files").
What a piece of shit website! Obviously put together by a bunch of fucking amateurs.
Emailed them yesterday but still no reply.
I would STRONGLY advise no one else to order through this website!
this is coming from your vast experience setting up a website to work across the world, accept credit cards securely, transfer files... etc.
Freebass is a side project, put together by a bunch of friends, working out a new website that they put together and are ill experienced in, but have been friendly and trying to work through the kinks...
So in short, fuck off
Ok,sorted & downloaded.....verdict?....apart from the Tim Burgess track,quite underwhelmed & not too impressed.Love hearing Hookys' bass as usual,but songwise?....very ordinary,just like BL :\ohwell:
kel wrote: Ok,sorted & downloaded.....verdict?....apart from the Tim Burgess track,quite underwhelmed & not too impressed.Love hearing Hookys' bass as usual,but songwise?....very ordinary,just like BL :\ohwell:
Think they should get those unseen Ian's lyrics from Touching from a distance book and then add New Order music on it instead. 
well i've always thought it was a little bit different, a bit more experimental.
have you actually heard the pete wylie or the howard, i think dull or underwhelming is one of the epithets that seriously could not be levied at them.
the tim is quite a straight track in an no / jd way. Which is pretty obvious.
Just keep it clean btw.
Problem fixed now (thanks Chad) and liking what I've heard so far.
BTW although the download issues were a bit crap you can't knock the guys looking after this for helping and quick responses - hopefully all these quirks will be fixed for the next release!
Chad has been very eager to work out people's problems so he deserves respect there. Maybe the Shop itself could have undergone a few more stress tests before going public but on the plus side, fans voiced concerns about 192 quality and they listened upgrading to 320 pretty quickly so can't say fairer than that.
As for the EP itself I'm really enjoying the first half. The Burgess track is great and Hooky's bass nicely pays homage to Ceremony eventually seguing into a trademark new melody towards the end. The Milky Way with Wylie is probably my favourite of the lot, just a great tune with a strong vocal. Dark Starr I suspect is the one people will either love or hate and confess I did find 7 minutes of Marks a bit grating; obviously the more leftfield/experimental one.
Live Tomorrow You Go Down reminds me a bit of See-Saw from Monaco's second album which must admit was never really a favourite... might grow on me. Electro bordering on disco-tastic it's a change of pace from the rest of the guitar driven tracks.
Overall and based on one weekend's listen I'd give the EP 7 or 8 out of 10. A mixed bag depending on your tastes but the first two tracks are very strong and heighten expectation for the album. Although they have their own sound, You Don't Know is clearly the most New Order-y of the lot and should be a popular one round these parts.
I just want to voice my support of Chad, who has been responsive and helpful through the whole process. He's a nice bloke who really cares and listens to everyone's concerns. Certainly despite the hiccups, this is better than dealing with a record label.
Very interested in the album now, thats for sure!
:)Old Lead Foot wrote:
EdelBrock wrote:
JJ wrote: I ordered/paid for the EP too but there are no files showing up in my downloads tray (under "My Account->Files").
What a piece of shit website! Obviously put together by a bunch of fucking amateurs.
Emailed them yesterday but still no reply.
I would STRONGLY advise no one else to order through this website!
this is coming from your vast experience setting up a website to work across the world, accept credit cards securely, transfer files... etc.
Freebass is a side project, put together by a bunch of friends, working out a new website that they put together and are ill experienced in, but have been friendly and trying to work through the kinks...
So in short, fuck off
Hi JJ
We've still not received an email and I can't find you in the system. If you'd like us to resolve this please get in touch.
Best Chad
Thanks to everyone for their support. I've just read these. I'm choked.
You guys are right its been a really difficult launch. We take most of the criticism on the chin. We should have put 192kbs up and we should have launched with more testing and we are learning as we go, its a bit like the blue paint on the opening night, but after all this time Hooky wanted it released and we stand by that.
We are not yet doing physical but its under consideration.
We hope everyone has their purchase and we hope you love it, like we do.
Please get in touch if anyone has further issues.
Best Chad
Physical release would be nice and 192 bits is still a bit minimal; I think it should be closer to 320 if there's no physical release.
Here's hoping the album is physical..?
You Don't Know (This About Me), thought it was Ceremony cause of its introduction 
Top track indeed 
I ordered the tracks and they charged me for them. They do not show up under files. I emailed the web site and they told me to look under files. There is something wrong with the website. As in they take my money but don't give me mp3's !!!
Bought and downloaded without any problems from the Hacienda Records website.Don't think much of any of them early doors, only bought em because i had £3.95 owed to me on my visa card though i now owe the grand total of £0.01 on it after 99p per track = total £3.96
Hi Hal
We have had some minor issues with the site and thought we had resolved everyones download problems.
Please contact us agin with your details and we will sort this immediately.
Regards Chad
chad wrote: Hi Hal
We have had some minor issues with the site and thought we had resolved everyones download problems.
Please contact us agin with your details and we will sort this immediately.
Regards Chad
u already helped me out last week Chad. thanks again for all your help. now if u could get bl on a plane for Chicago, that would be swell :)
