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Less than a week to go before the next outing.
So what's going to change?
Bigger venue than their previous two gigs and a country they only visit once in a blue moon so they're gonna have to up their game again.
Surely they have to give something off Lost Sirens an outing?
Beyond that, given that it's South America, I should imagine we might get more Joy Division? Perhaps Transmission or Atmosphere added to the set?
Thoughts?
Definitely an extra Joy Division song or two.
Would be amazed if anything off Lost Sirens gets played, I'd go with a guess of older tracks that havnae been played in a while getting an outing. Afterall Gillian did mention this in those South American interviews.
Being a selfish bugger, I hope they save Sunrise, Vanishing Point and Subculture for London 
Touched by the hand of God in honour of El Diego. 
I don't think they'll do anything from Lost Sirens though.
Stick with the tried and trusted and maybe wheel out a gem such as Procession aswell as a couple of JD (Transmish and LWTUA) a shoe in.
El Jarvo wrote:
Juliette wrote: HURT Chosen Time
I knew what you were gonna say before I even read this.
Can't decide whether Hurt is a genius call or completely unrealistic... I mean, it's not too dissimilar to 586, which could work in its favour or against it...
Leave Me Alone would be a welcome addition... Maybe with a lyric change from 'me' to 'us'...
Snorri xxx
Snorrimon wrote:
El Jarvo wrote:
Juliette wrote: HURT Chosen Time
I knew what you were gonna say before I even read this.
Can't decide whether Hurt is a genius call or completely unrealistic... I mean, it's not too dissimilar to 586, which could work in its favour or against it...
Leave Me Alone would be a welcome addition... Maybe with a lyric change from 'me' to 'us'...
Snorri xxx
How about - Do the Ostrich?
Here in Buenos Aires did not realize that takes less than a week for they play live !!
I hope for something about Technique... unlikely rigth?
Anyway... we are counting hours to the event of the Year !!
We wish some European fans come to Buenos Aires just like they did in 2006.
I have a pin of Vikings...
Hello! long time reader on here, I have decided to start making a effort! song to save for London "Run"
Surely a reasonable chance of a new track assuming the song used as soundcheck at Wembley will be on lost sirens.
As it is when it was.
Emilio Roqueta wrote: We wish some European fans come to Buenos Aires just like they did in 2006.
Not me though. :(
El Jarvo wrote:
Emilio Roqueta wrote: We wish some European fans come to Buenos Aires just like they did in 2006.
Not me though. :(
Is Norman also going to Buenos Aires? 
El Jarvo wrote:
Emilio Roqueta wrote: We wish some European fans come to Buenos Aires just like they did in 2006.
Not me though. :(
(sorry Jarvo this time...)
All the fans are welcome !!
Remember what Barney said ? "Long live punk and long live to Buenos Aires"
The party is getting starting...
Emilio Roqueta wrote:
El Jarvo wrote:
Emilio Roqueta wrote: We wish some European fans come to Buenos Aires just like they did in 2006.
Not me though. :(
(sorry Jarvo this time...)
All the fans are welcome !!
Remember what Barney said ? "Long live punk and long live to Buenos Aires"
The party is getting starting...
Didn't he also say anything related to mothers? 
Big Mouth Julio wrote:
El Jarvo wrote:
Emilio Roqueta wrote: We wish some European fans come to Buenos Aires just like they did in 2006.
Not me though. :(
Is Norman also going to Buenos Aires?
No, only Sao Paulo. Couldn't change the flights anymore.
Are you so frustrated by the other Bert, Julio, that you replace now bert with man? :D
mark reed wrote: Ah
I'm hoping for a 20 minute medley of ....
586 everythings gone green temptation
It would be P-E-R-F-E-C-T-! And with Bernard's voice full of digital delay!
Listen the live show at:
http://www.metro951.com/media-player
Official radio of the show.
The gig starts at 9pm (Buenos Aires´s Time)
Emilio Roqueta wrote: Listen the live show at:
http://www.metro951.com/media-player
Official radio of the show.
The gig starts at 9pm (Buenos Aires´s Time)
Nice one! That's about 6pm UK time innit?
johnny wrote:
Emilio Roqueta wrote: Listen the live show at:
http://www.metro951.com/media-player
Official radio of the show.
The gig starts at 9pm (Buenos Aires´s Time)
Nice one! That's about 6pm UK time innit?
Nope, midnight.
Well past my bedtime. :(
Way past my bedtime
Hope someone is recording this
Setlist will be the same as always, they are the safe players these days (now that would be a great livetrack:-)
El Jarvo wrote:
johnny wrote:
I go that time through googling and here its says it's currently 8.36 am in Buenos Aires
Yeah, they're three hours behind us.
So when it's 9pm there, it's midnight here.
Unless I'm missing something?
Ah right i'm wiv yer now. bugger:( got confused in the excitement
Still, here's hoping the Sau Paulo gig Saturday night is on the radio, that'll be 11pm uk time
Emilio Roqueta wrote: Listen the live show at:
http://www.metro951.com/media-player
Official radio of the show.
The gig starts at 9pm (Buenos Aires´s Time)
Please tell me somebody recorder this so we can listen to it, please a torrent on this would be GREAT.
El Jarvo wrote:
johnny wrote:
I go that time through googling and here its says it's currently 8.36 am in Buenos Aires
Yeah, they're three hours behind us.
So when it's 9pm there, it's midnight here.
Unless I'm missing something?
Yep, you're right. Three hours behind the UK in Buenos Aires so this is a midnight broadcast.
I was on the soundcheck, listen it on the sidewalk...
Like 3 hours of playing, plus other couple of hours yesterday!
I spoke with Phil and Tom, very kind guys.
I could not see Barney and the rest of the band.
Need to hurry! It's one hour earlier than here in my city 
Hope they have a good server online!
Big Mouth Julio wrote: According to Owen WFTSC and YSF will be back to the setlist
Thanks Owen! 
WFTSC was played during the soundcheck
Big Mouth Julio wrote:
Big Mouth Julio wrote: According to Owen WFTSC and YSF will be back to the setlist
Thanks Owen!
WFTSC was played during the soundcheck
I always thought WFTSC was weaker live than on record because on the live versions, all of the gorgeous synth parts were programmed and Phil just played a boring guitar riff.
The song should sound much better live with Gillian playing the synth parts. It is a beautiful song.
Emilio Roqueta wrote: Listen the live show at:
http://www.metro951.com/media-player
Official radio of the show.
The gig starts at 9pm (Buenos Aires´s Time)
Thanks for the broadcast info--that's still early on this side of the pond, actually 7 PM Eastern Time in the States.
I'm hoping Barney struts onstage, shouts 'this one is for the Malvinas' and launches into 'Thieves like Us'.
Anyone got that metro link working? (or do i need to wait till midnight before i hear anything?)
The Haçienda must be (re)Built wrote: Anyone got that metro link working? (or do i need to wait till midnight before i hear anything?)
yup... been working for an hour for me... loads of babbling Sarrrfff Americans. Not heard any mention of NO yet, but they did play a bit of gay disco earlier.
Not working for me...says connecting for ages on the mediaplayer then just says ready :thatsmashingcomptuerone:
The Haçienda must be (re)Built wrote: Not working for me...says connecting for ages on the mediaplayer then just says ready :thatsmashingcomptuerone:
ermmm no sign of NO... Lots of Gay Pride adverts.
Burt Burterson wrote:
The Haçienda must be (re)Built wrote: Not working for me...says connecting for ages on the mediaplayer then just says ready :thatsmashingcomptuerone:
ermmm no sign of NO... Lots of Gay Pride adverts.
I guess it was a prank and we fell for it.
Burt Burterson wrote:
The Haçienda must be (re)Built wrote: Not working for me...says connecting for ages on the mediaplayer then just says ready :thatsmashingcomptuerone:
ermmm no sign of NO... Lots of Gay Pride adverts.
So why are you complaining? You like it! 
Nick King wrote: Erm, can anyone who can speak Spanish: have they actually mentioned New Order at all??
Nueva Orden
Malditos argentinos! 
Nick King wrote: Erm, can anyone who can speak Spanish: have they actually mentioned New Order at all??
No and a new program has just started. And it's going to last one hour and half. 
This is off their website via googletranslate
The English back in the news a few days of his return. On this occasion it transpired that an EP edited the material left out of the final selection Waiting for the Sirens integrated 'Call, LP released back in 2005.
As it turned out, the EP will be released in December under the title Lost Sirens. The work will include eight songs, among them will be "Hellbent," which was part of Total, which brought the compiled work of Joy Division and New Order, which was released earlier this year.
On the subject, bassist Hook, which is not part of New Order's visit to Argentina, said he hopes to bring to light these issues will help to give closure to the group. U.S. First half declared:
"It would have been nice, from my point of view, able to dispose of these tracks in the best possible way, draw a line and put a closure to the final separation of the band. He was not clean in any way, to be honest. So I'm willing to edit this last remaining material is going to do a little cleaner. "
Recall that New Order returns to Buenos Aires after that presentation in 2006 that acted as a prelude to separation. Now, five years later, the British (no Hook) will be performing on 1st December in the works with Metro Stadium and official radio station 95.1.
The Haçienda must be (re)Built wrote: This is off their website via googletranslate
The English back in the news a few days of his return. On this occasion it transpired that an EP edited the material left out of the final selection Waiting for the Sirens integrated 'Call, LP released back in 2005.
As it turned out, the EP will be released in December under the title Lost Sirens. The work will include eight songs, among them will be "Hellbent," which was part of Total, which brought the compiled work of Joy Division and New Order, which was released earlier this year.
On the subject, bassist Hook, which is not part of New Order's visit to Argentina, said he hopes to bring to light these issues will help to give closure to the group. U.S. First half declared:
"It would have been nice, from my point of view, able to dispose of these tracks in the best possible way, draw a line and put a closure to the final separation of the band. He was not clean in any way, to be honest. So I'm willing to edit this last remaining material is going to do a little cleaner. "
Recall that New Order returns to Buenos Aires after that presentation in 2006 that acted as a prelude to separation. Now, five years later, the British (no Hook) will be performing on 1st December in the works with Metro Stadium and official radio station 95.1.
So it could be being recorded for a later broadcast?
One Brain wrote:
Nick King wrote: Erm, can anyone who can speak Spanish: have they actually mentioned New Order at all??
No and a new program has just started. And it's going to last one hour and half.
Damn... :\ohwell:
I was listenig to a stream yesterday (to check I could listen at work) and I heard a promo for no; whether it was for the gig itself or broadcast I don't know. The online schedule didn't promote it though.
Shug wrote: Same setlist as bruxxels and Paree.
They've practised 30 songs though, so that's alright then.
I looked at Johnny Giles' twitter for the first time today. He was commenting on ex-Leeds Utd footballers six hours ago, and NO mention of the gig! 
El Jarvo wrote:
Shug wrote: Same setlist as bruxxels and Paree.
They've practised 30 songs though, so that's alright then.
I looked at Johnny Giles' twitter for the first time today. He was commenting on ex-Leeds Utd footballers six hours ago, and NO mention of the gig!
Eddie Gray
Maybe the other tracks they've rehearsed have been delayed due to 'copyright issues'? 
Snorri xxx
Snorrimon wrote: Maybe the other tracks they've rehearsed have been delayed due to 'copyright issues'?
Snorri xxx
Nah!
Hooky said that they couldn't play them
Burt - Alex Sabella. Who's now the manager of Argentina.
As the gig was being broadcast live, or so I thought, I reckoned the set list would already be published here. Couldn't get any signal during the gig so nothing doing while it was on.
As Shug says, same set list as Paris/Brussels.
Venue was packed and the gig went down really well with the locals, BLT and Temptation got the best reaction. Even those in the seats were vibing to BLT, all hands in the air and ankles akimbo. Visuals in place as in previous 2 gigs.
Bernard banter was up to the usual standard. Some lad kept shouting 'wanker!!', Bernard asked him if he'd been looking through Phil's hotel bedroom window.
No Tin Tin on this trip but there were a couple of young DJs who played just before NO came on and they dropped a Twist of Fate remix - not sure which one - at the end of their set. Gotta say it sounded boss and got a great reaction.
They're off to Brazil today, I'm chilling in Buenos Aires for a few more days. Beautiful city, then off to Santiago on Sunday to hook up with Wolfram and Hernan 
Badge Watch:
Norbert - gave 3 badges to Dian at the end of the set for you, Julio + 1 so Dian is expecting you to collect them off her tomorrow night.
Andy Liddle took a couple of extra badges for Ed Symons and Tim Burgess.
Hardly gave out any to the Argie Order as there was no meet arranged but anyone who helped me with translations received one. All the crew and band are badged up and Gillian took a couple of extras for her daughters too.
Oh well, there's always the gig at the Troxy to look out for and hope for a few surprises on the setlist
.....NOT 
Why's that then. Peronally I havn't seen them play some of these songs for a number of years?
Burt Burterson wrote: Same old shite.
Surface wrote: Why's that then. Peronally I havn't seen them play some of these songs for a number of years?
Burt Burterson wrote: Same old shite.
It's a running gag, when they play successive same sets.
Burt Burterson wrote:
Surface wrote: Why's that then. Peronally I havn't seen them play some of these songs for a number of years?
Burt Burterson wrote: Same old shite.
It's a running gag, when they play successive same sets.
Three on the bounce, all the same.
This is a record, even for them, isn't it? Am sure we've not seen three gigs running, all the same. Two definitely, not three.
Guess they're even further restricted these days by the video backdrop too.
Perhaps they could do a second encore at the Troxy, just playing under a plain blue light - "songs we've not created a video for yet"? :\ohwell:
In Paris and Brussels Elegia was played totally live, with Phil and Gillian both playing the swirling keyboard parts.
From watching the BA live video of Elegia, it seems like they have now programmed the song, as the parts Phil were playing live on keyboards at Paris and Brussels are now sequenced and he is playing guitar.
Stll sounds good though. Sounds like the gig went really well. The band look and sound great. Bernard was having a great time.
Krafty and Age of Consent both have new videos.
I know you guys are griping about the set...but for the BA crowd, a large part of that set was songs they hadn't heard in years, and still only the third time that AOC and 586 have been played live in years.
I also imagine they played the same set again because it's their first show in a month and a half and they wanted to feel comfortable. They certainly sound a lot tighter and more confident.
Crowd sounds like they were really into it.
just watched the Elegia/Crystal clip, Barney's voice sounds really strong right now. Better than when they toured the US in 05 in my opinion. As for Elegia, loved the guitar layers.
Here's hoping for some US dates in the spring, as the saying goes though, I'll believe it when I see it...
A dedicated soul (not me-LOL) is apparently in the process of uploading the entire gig to YouTube in very high quality video.
Check here for current status and latest uploads:
http://www.youtube.com/user/ShysusCraist#g/a
Cheers!
Video of Crystal in very good quality
http://tn.com.ar/musica/en-vivo/00074746/new-order-paso-por-el-templo-del-rock
No audio recordings or torrents kicking about then?
I fell asleep before the radio broadcast [if it happened] way past my bed time...
Could have recorded as well.. bugger.
everyoneverywhere wrote:
I fell asleep before the radio broadcast [if it happened] way past my bed time...
It didn't. It was gay disco night on Argie FM too.
linus sulanki wrote: so did anyone record this so we can listen to it, Please
Just listen to the Paris gig and pretend it's the Argentina one, it is the same set list :)
I wonder will they make any set list changes for the Troxy gig.
cranelane wrote:
linus sulanki wrote: so did anyone record this so we can listen to it, Please
Just listen to the Paris gig and pretend it's the Argentina one, it is the same set list :)
I wonder will they make any set list changes for the Troxy gig.
But if it was a radio broadcast it is probably better quality than the paris gig, paris gig was very good also but a radio rip would be better
linus sulanki wrote: so did anyone record this so we can listen to it, Please
Yes, watch/listen here:
linus sulanki wrote:
cranelane wrote:
linus sulanki wrote: so did anyone record this so we can listen to it, Please
Just listen to the Paris gig and pretend it's the Argentina one, it is the same set list :)
I wonder will they make any set list changes for the Troxy gig.
But if it was a radio broadcast it is probably better quality than the paris gig, paris gig was very good also but a radio rip would be better
There was no broadcast linus. We had to sit through 2 hours of gay disco and hispanic babbling to find this out.
It was an amazing gig !
It was crowded, although it did little advertising (only FM Radio and social networks)
Very hot, lots of fans singing and jumping all night.
On the front, much "pogo", like the old shows from the 80.
Barney encouraged fans and asked them "more" with their hands.
In 2006, in an outdoor show there were nearly 20,000 souls, yesterday in a converted basketball stadium nearly 4,000, as did a lot of noise.
"Fucking fantastic audience" Barney said.
There is a saying... "there is no 2 without 3".
We have keep our fingers crossed.
Johnny Giles wrote: Sorry, I meant Mike.
Burt ain't old enough to know Eddie Gray!
Hi Johnny,
If you are in Buenos Aires email me, so we have to meet you.
Look for my email at my profile.
Spent all night watching tube clips of the gig. First saw JD supporting Buzzcocks so seen them right throught to todays line up and have got to say that with the re sequencing of the songs and the new back drop, they look and sound better than I can ever remember.
There is a clip of 1963 and BLT and its really moving to see Bernard so into it!
apparently the radio decided on that same day not to broadcast it. some people told me they saw some professional video recording going on so we might have news soon.
my review will come shortly. my body still aches after doing the pogo all night long. in the meantime some pics (with reviews in spanish):
setlist
linus sulanki wrote: Video of Crystal in very good quality
http://tn.com.ar/musica/en-vivo/00074746/new-order-paso-por-el-templo-del-rock
Bloody nora those mobile phones are a scourge on gigs aren't they?
Johnny Giles wrote:
No Tin Tin on this trip but there were a couple of young DJs who played just before NO came on and they dropped a Twist of Fate remix - not sure which one - at the end of their set. Gotta say it sounded boss and got a great reaction.
it was their own remix:
AK47 Bullet Mixes
it was strange because I seemed to be the only one around screamming the lyrics when this remix was on. it felt pretty weird, some people were even staring at me like "what the hell is he singing about?" :p
M1 wrote:
linus sulanki wrote: Video of Crystal in very good quality
http://tn.com.ar/musica/en-vivo/00074746/new-order-paso-por-el-templo-del-rock
Bloody nora those mobile phones are a scourge on gigs aren't they?
Not to mention the damn Coke sellers...
Marcelo Castillo wrote:
M1 wrote:
linus sulanki wrote: Video of Crystal in very good quality
http://tn.com.ar/musica/en-vivo/00074746/new-order-paso-por-el-templo-del-rock
Bloody nora those mobile phones are a scourge on gigs aren't they?
Not to mention the damn Coke sellers...
Coca-Cola that is :p
almansoglasnost wrote:
Marcelo Castillo wrote:
M1 wrote:
linus sulanki wrote: Video of Crystal in very good quality
http://tn.com.ar/musica/en-vivo/00074746/new-order-paso-por-el-templo-del-rock
Bloody nora those mobile phones are a scourge on gigs aren't they?
Not to mention the damn Coke sellers...
Coca-Cola that is :p
In South America.... who you trying to kid?
Johnny Giles wrote:
almansoglasnost wrote:
Marcelo Castillo wrote:
M1 wrote:
linus sulanki wrote: Video of Crystal in very good quality
http://tn.com.ar/musica/en-vivo/00074746/new-order-paso-por-el-templo-del-rock
Bloody nora those mobile phones are a scourge on gigs aren't they?
Not to mention the damn Coke sellers...
Coca-Cola that is :p
In South America.... who you trying to kid?
you mean? Colombia and Bolivia could have such fame but other parts of the world are much worst than us southies ;)
Johnny Giles wrote: Sorry, I meant Mike.
Burt ain't old enough to know Eddie Gray!
oohh i dont know ya know Mark. I remember his kid brother Frank played & managed here at Darlington quite successfully late 80's early 90's after it went tits up under Eddie. Even though im too young to have seen (in prime) Clarke, Cooper, Bremner etc.. i can still rabbit on about em for days..
is it me or is Barny showing off his new badge (on Elegia/crystal uyube clip) nice touch. That Tom bloke is getting a bit more up front now eh..be falling off stage by time of troxy do
Andrew Sayer wrote:
Johnny Giles wrote: Sorry, I meant Mike.
Burt ain't old enough to know Eddie Gray!
oohh i dont know ya know Mark. I remember his kid brother Frank played & managed here at Darlington quite successfully late 80's early 90's after it went tits up under Eddie. Even though im too young to have seen (in prime) Clarke, Cooper, Bremner etc.. i can still rabbit on about em for days..
I saw them a couple of years after this, thought it important to post these important artefacts just in case anyone was so ignorant of the greatest football team ever to grace a pitch...
