Sorry if it´s been done before but I´d like to know which was the first NO album you bought (please tell me everything about that experience). Now I´ll tell you about me: the first album I bought was International on January 2nd 2012 (yes, I remember the date)(but it wasn´t the first of music by NO that I had, that being a mixtape I made a few months ago with the NO songs I knew up to that point).That evening I was just hanging around in the shopping mall with my mum (we had just finished having tea) and I had no intentions of buying anything but then I entered the record shop just to see what they had on sale. They had the albums in alphabetical order and when I got to the "N" I found 4 NO albums: Get Ready, The Best Of, Total and International. The 2 albums that caught my attention were Total and International (I was also interested in a greatest hits album by the Pet Shop Boys). As Total features songs by Joy Division which I´m not familiar with and I didn´t want to take risks as I had little money I chose International But it was a difficult choice to the point of my mum and the sales assistant waiting for me until the store was closing (The issue was that Total has Temptation, which I love, and International doesn´t). I got home quite late but I couldn´t sleep until 3 am thinking whether it was a good purchase or not and I didn´t want to open the envelope in case I wanted to change it for Total. But the next morning I made up my mind and I played it. Since the fist time I played it I could notice the diffrence in terms of sound quality with my home-made mixtape. My favourite song in it it´s the extended mix of BLT. My least favourite song is the extended mix of TBTHOG as I find it a bit dull. As being my only original NO cd and having such a great sound quality I listen to it a lot. Overall, I think it was a good purchase, especially as it has the exteneded mix of BLT, but if i had more money would buy Total too.
Which was the first NO album you bought?
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Movement, at some stage in 1981. Can't remember the exact date, but I was really excited it was finally out and intensely disappointed with the production. They were much better live, those songs.
The Best of New Order. The first album I bought in 'real-time' was WFTSC. When GR was released, I wasn't a fan yet. (And I was quite young back then). As for the other albums, I bought most of them either new or used, whenever I could find them. The only 'studio album' of New Order that I don't have is Movement.
The singles of the mid 80s prompted me to by Substance - Wasn't all that keen on it to begin with, but something kept making me go back to it until I started to fall in love with it.
Then I got blown away by Technique and splashed out on the whole back catalogue.
Joy division's back catalogue was the final step and now I love the whole lot.
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PC&L, mithered the staff in the local HMV for a release date every Saturday morning for weeks, after the usual trip to the barders for the barney cut, eventually there it was, reckon I played it over a dozen times on the bouce until I had all the lyrics sorted (sad git).
To this day my favorite album and the one I play more than the others as regardless of the my mood, time of day, location and so on, it never gets boring.
And yes Tim, they were better live, as you were never sure what you would get and how good/bad they would be, but that all those years gone by.
The first album I possessed was Substance, but I stole that from my boyfriend at the time. The first album purchased was Technique.
Movement in 81.
Had a coffee and waited in the record shop for the weekly boxes from UK, and when the box containing "Movement" finally was opened (the last box IIRC), I got my copy, and another one was put on the turntable in the store and turned up really loud :-)
- Deck
Side 2 of Substance on cassette from Hectic House in Macc. I often wondered whether side 1 had been sold on its own or simply nicked. You never knew in that place.
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No i have seen the LIGHT!
Substance.
New Order had somehow slipped under my radar until I saw a tiny clip of the True Faith video which intrigued me.
Went to the local Our Price (remember them?!) and saw they had a double-album on cassette called Substance.
It was nearly £10 though and, as a fairly broke 15 year old, I went weeks deciding whether or not to take a chance on an expensive purchase (considering I had no money and had only heard a few seconds of one of their songs).
Then one day, I was browsing the cassettes in Woolworths and found Substance there too.... same price, but this one was in one of those Saville designed linen boxes. That sold me.
Got it home.... loved it... couldn't stop playing it. The only track i didn't like at the time was Confusion - and whilst I'm still not a fan of the Substance version, I love some of the other versions of it.
It changed the way I thought about music so much that I binned all my old records! Only an original 7" of Ace Of Spades by Motorhead, survived the cut.
Over time, my favourite NO song has changed on a fairly regular basis, but most of them have been from Substance.
Movement, cant remember whether I bought it in stockport just down the road from where it was recorded or Altrincham where i worked, Got it as near to the release date as possible as no one could give you a deffo date. Think it was November as had seen em live for the first time in October and dont remember knowing all the songs...Factory eh.
Dreams never end
The first Joy Division related album I got was Permanent 1995 and as far as compilations go it wasn't a bad introduction to the band.
Can't be sure but I think Republic was the first proper New Order album I nicked from my bro's CD collection, it was 1995/6 after all.
Think my first proper NO album purchase was PC&L or Brotherhood. I forget which one precisely. I got Low-Life as a birthday present.
Movement was ironically the last album I picked up and it didn't really compute for a good few years as I'd heard all the later period stuff first. I didn't like it.
It's only recently I've begun to appreciate that blue monolith album... even Hannett's production.
? the best of on cassette.
I borrowed Substance 1987 from my older brother first though, and I would recommend anyone who is interested in New Order to listen to that first, while you're still young.
Empress Touch wrote: ? the best of on cassette.
I borrowed Substance 1987 from my older brother first though, and I would recommend anyone who is interested in New Order to listen to that first, while you're still young.
Agreed... Substance should be given to every kid as standard issue when they become a teenager (although there's nothing wrong with starting them even younger).
They haven't done an album yet that I like all the way through. Movement's production smothered too many of the songs, and they completely destroyed Ultraviolence and We All Stand on PC&L, turning amazing live songs into subdued studio versions. Low Life's production and particularly editing leave a lot to be desired, sadly as they were a good collection of songs. Brotherhood was just a mess, and Technique is almost too polished, pity about some of the songwriting. Republic is half an album and way too much filler, great production though, and Get Ready has them back in crap song mode. Sirens is the best production effort but there's three poor songs on there.
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Low-Life on cassette upon US release. The store was called Licorice Pizza.
I had been listening to a compilation tape my friend had made the previous year but their 1985 release was the first album I listened to all the way through.
Low-Life ended up being my first New Order compact disc purchase as well in early 1987.
First album would have been PCL in 1984 I guess. Worked my way back from there right through to the beginning of JD. What an assault 'Still' was to me but I persevered. Then got all releases as they came out. Back in those days I had to import the singles from the UK via ads in the NME. Cost a fortune to bring them to NZ by post and it literally took weeks. There was nothing more rewarding than having a large cardboard box containing 12" singles coming from the UK. One of my most prized scores was finding by chance Murder/TLU instrumental Factory Benelux 12" and convincing the guy in the record store to let me buy it as he said he only had a few copies for special customers. Still love everything about that vinyl. Artwork is supurb.
Bought Factus 8 in Jan 84 thinking it was an album but i guess Movement was first proper album i bought, same month and year.
sirens call. 2007. sadly i didn;'t know about no til 92. jd 02. they played bizarre love triangle in grocery stores. miss it.
PCL on vinyl one bright day at Sleeves Record Shop, Kirkcaldy, Fife, in 1983. I had all the JD records and Movement, but I didn't buy them myself. This was the first I actually shelled out for. How maverick that flowery picture seemed at first sight both in the whole mix of covers around then, and after the solemnity of the JD sleeves and the seriousness of Movement. Then having to get the LP home on the bus without damage But then it was the kind of picture that could be either serious or not so serious at all, maybe even psychedelic - an enigma. You can't judge a LP by its sleeve, but it's difficult to resist when that's all there is to go on, and NO were anonymous figures to me. Musicwise, all was revealed on listening to it a few times of course. The next decade was mapped out by what was the latest NO album of the time - 83-85, 85-7, 87-89, 89-93, that was continued by Electronic.
First albums I 'got' all be in on a c90 phillips tape was Brotherhood when it had just come out, I loved that album then was my favourite for some time, has since sliiped down the ranks. I then auquried via pirate means again PC&L and Lowlife. Loved Lowlife didn;t quite get PC&L but this is now my favourite album of all time by any and. First album I bought was substance, just after that went back and bought the others many times over on lots of different formats.
The first NO album I got was Brotherhood in summer '87 I think, from a friend whose mother worked in Zürich. It had a sticker with band and album name on and the friend bought herself a leather jacket, so I thought how cool it would be if I got to see them wearing that jacket and stuck that sticker on it. The first one I actually bought was Lowlife, my mother took that same friend and me to Graz for her workers union trip the following spring. Unknown Pleasures preceeded them all though, I manged to get it at a record fair in Zagreb in spring '87.
Edit: can't believe I wrote Movement instead of Brotherhood?
Having loaned my cassette player out in the summer of 83 or 84 it was returned with a radio recording of The Beach. The dj, a boring blues band leader in my state was kind enough to give the title and artist of the band. I immediately drove to Iowa City, a unversity town, and purchased Movement, Factus 8, TLU 12", Temptation 12" and Hurt 12". Low-Life would be the next purchase. Somehow I was late on PL&C but bought all the oter lps as soon as they were available here.
Power Corruption & Lies when it came out in 1983.
I'd bought Ceremony /EGG / Temptation / Blue Monday but for some reason I'd skipped Movement, which I bought in 1984.
Republic purchased on the day of release at the TransWorld Record Store which replaced a then fading Camelot Music in the Fayetteville Mall in upstate NY as I seem to recall. Bought on the stregnth of Regret which I immediately fell in love with. Still like Republic and actually wish they would bring back Everyone Everywhere in the set. I think Phil could handle the guiar bits that Bernard once said were tough on his hands to play. After that I puchased both New Order's and Joy Division's Substance, which arrived one week after my younger broher passed away. Needless to say, both albums in some captured the ups and downs emotionally of losing one's brother at such a young age. After that Brotherhood, Technique, Low-life, PC&L, and finally Movement. All on cd. Then we move into vinyl and the desire to collect FAC UK vinyl, another sad twisted story for a kid in the states.
I heard True Faith on a Top 40 US radio station in the late summer of 1987 and captured most of the song on a cassette tape that happened to be in my stereo. It was completely different from anything else I had every heard. Hearing it for the first time was like being blind and suddenly having the gift of vision- it changed my whole perception of music in an instant. I started scouring the local record stores for any release with this song in it. In the meantime I played my cassette-recorded version probably hundreds of times. None of the record stores that I had access to carried a good selection of singles but I eventually found the double cassette version of Substance (I also bought The Smiths - Strangeways Here We Come at the same time since I was intrigued by its cover). Within a few months I bought PC&L, Lowlife and Brotherhood as well. I never listened to Top 40 radio again.
First purchase any New Order was Substance 1987 on cassette. First non compilation album was Low Life.
Substance was my first NO album, though I was late on board and didn't pick it up until the early 90's though it was one of the first CD's I ever bought.
PCL as a 13 year old.
And it wasnae till years later I realised that the A-side kicked off with AOC, I always thought the A-side kicked off with KW1.
PCL, cassette and I still have it tucked away in a box. I get it out every couple of years to look at it!
Movement on vinyl in 81, used to buy the album CDs before I could afford a CD player! Still got the "car cases" too.
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The best of after hearing Crystal on the radio, then a month later I got Low-life and Get Ready, the rest soon followed!
Substance. BLue Monday had intrigued me, Confusion had confused me - it still grows on me every time I play that tune, just slowly gets better and better, in the same way as Coffee and TV by Blur does. I bought a 12" of Thieves Like Us in a charity 2nd hand bookshop that had a few records in as well. Loved it.
True Faith I thought was fantastic too. So I guess it was in 1987 that I bought Substance, on double cassette.
New Order forever.
sutty wrote: Movement on vinyl in 81, used to buy the album CDs before I could afford a CD player! Still got the "car cases" too.
The heady days of long lost youth and naivety.
Gazman wrote:
sutty wrote: Movement on vinyl in 81, used to buy the album CDs before I could afford a CD player! Still got the "car cases" too.
The heady days of long lost youth and naivety.
Never used 'em because, would only have got ruined and first car with a CD player arrived in 2004. The card was of a particularly plush quality on the Closer sleeve just like the original album cover.
Bit like the Aus/NZ stubby holders nice to look at but don't use.
sutty wrote:
Gazman wrote:
sutty wrote: Movement on vinyl in 81, used to buy the album CDs before I could afford a CD player! Still got the "car cases" too.
The heady days of long lost youth and naivety.
Never used 'em because, would only have got ruined and first car with a CD player arrived in 2004. The card was of a particularly plush quality on the Closer sleeve just like the original album cover.
Bit like the Aus/NZ stubby holders nice to look at but don't use.
I dont think ive ever even seen one mate, they do look the part though,as for the stubby holders...
Gazman wrote:
sutty wrote: Movement on vinyl in 81, used to buy the album CDs before I could afford a CD player! Still got the "car cases" too.
The heady days of long lost youth and naivety.
I've have UP, Closer, PCL & Brotherhood . The Car Carry Cases were only included in early issues but fortunately I started buying CD's in 1987.
Silvina Hernandez wrote: Sorry if it´s been done before but I´d like to know which was the first NO album you bought (please tell me everything about that experience). Now I´ll tell you about me: the first album I bought was International on January 2nd 2012 (yes, I remember the date)(but it wasn´t the first of music by NO that I had, that being a mixtape I made a few months ago with the NO songs I knew up to that point).That evening I was just hanging around in the shopping mall with my mum (we had just finished having tea) and I had no intentions of buying anything but then I entered the record shop just to see what they had on sale. They had the albums in alphabetical order and when I got to the "N" I found 4 NO albums: Get Ready, The Best Of, Total and International. The 2 albums that caught my attention were Total and International (I was also interested in a greatest hits album by the Pet Shop Boys). As Total features songs by Joy Division which I´m not familiar with and I didn´t want to take risks as I had little money I chose International But it was a difficult choice to the point of my mum and the sales assistant waiting for me until the store was closing (The issue was that Total has Temptation, which I love, and International doesn´t). I got home quite late but I couldn´t sleep until 3 am thinking whether it was a good purchase or not and I didn´t want to open the envelope in case I wanted to change it for Total. But the next morning I made up my mind and I played it. Since the fist time I played it I could notice the diffrence in terms of sound quality with my home-made mixtape. My favourite song in it it´s the extended mix of BLT. My least favourite song is the extended mix of TBTHOG as I find it a bit dull. As being my only original NO cd and having such a great sound quality I listen to it a lot. Overall, I think it was a good purchase, especially as it has the exteneded mix of BLT, but if i had more money would buy Total too.
Hmmmm, summer of 1989 and winter of 1989/1990 i checked out substance from the library after steve masters from live 105 in san francisco raved about it.
-Technique/Brotherhood/Peel Sessions-March 1990
Couldn't make any sense at all of how "We All Stand" existed alongside the rest of the music. Completely fell in love with Technique, which along with Weirdo and Paradise became a bit of my soundtrack to my first trip to Hawaii at age 15 (along also with the stone roses). Brotherhood was more erratic, i remember thinking it sounded washed out and plasticy, kind of hollow, a bit like the production in all those seventies albums i loathe so much (Pink Floyd and the like).
-PCL/Low Life-June '90
Got these just as i finished my freshman year in high school ended and summer began. Remember listening to them while riding my bike to play baseball with buddies (along with Hubert Kah, Celebrate the nun, bazooka joe, and david j's "I'll be your chauffeur" etc), and ride my bike throught he coastal mountains along the peninsula (i grew up about 20 minutes south of san francisco via highway 101 or 280). Instantly fell in love with Age of Consent sliding it in alongside 1963 and mr. disco as my fav new order song, also loved leave me alone, your silent face, and the village, and the non-weird part of 5 8 6. Love Life seemed a bit darker and angrier, but liked to listen to it when i felt broken hearted or angry that summer, especially this time of night and sunrise, Face Up played a humorous role in the first day of what turned out to be a 7 year romance while walking together w/the girl. Looked for Aleph version of Sooner than you think for years after buying a vinyl bootleg, finally found it on youtube a month ago.
-Movement-July '90
Freaking HATED this album, though i sometimes liked track 2, 4, and and bits of 2 other songs when i was mega depressed (nick named depressed mode by humorous buddies when i was a cranky angst ridden, way too serious youth)"here i am in a house full of doors with no exits" that is a great line, a great line.
Republic-May 1993 in time for CCS
listened to regret on the way to track practice as a senior, and during my drive to the ccs track meet that may where i was on the relay team. weird memory, while at the track meet, a baseball game was going on, and a baseball smacked my windshield good (didnt see it, just the result). Hated Republic, but did LOVE Special, the chorus from Times Change, Regret, and somewhat liked Everyone Everywhere, and Young Offender. In "Liar" contains the worst ever new order song.
Get Ready-September 2001
WFTSC-April 2005
I was not hugely attached to either of these albums, though both contain songs and lyrics that matter to me. Oddly confused at the hate for track 6 from get ready, its sluggish and musically kind of cruddy, but it has some nice barney lyrics mixed in w/the usual joke garbage. WFTSC and Turn are wonderful, bits of lyrics on get ready are great, but no songs are classic, a first for new order since movement for me, even the awful republic had hits.
UpDownTurnAround wrote: The singles of the mid 80s prompted me to by Substance - Wasn't all that keen on it to begin with, but something kept making me go back to it until I started to fall in love with it.
Then I got blown away by Technique and splashed out on the whole back catalogue.
Joy division's back catalogue was the final step and now I love the whole lot.
funny my exact same experience. I checked out substance in the summer of '89 from the library and was kind of mixed on it (was obsessed with R.E.M., Information Society, FYC, The Ocean Blue, and the sugar cubes back then), then again during the winter of '89/'90 and was won over. Technique got me, and then went after everything else. I forgot, and should have mentioned that in my timeline, I bought Joy Division's Substance and Still in the winter of 1990/1991, then Closer in June of 1991, and Unknown Pleasures in late summer of 1991, vinyl version.
Tim wrote: They haven't done an album yet that I like all the way through. Movement's production smothered too many of the songs, and they completely destroyed Ultraviolence and We All Stand on PC&L, turning amazing live songs into subdued studio versions. Low Life's production and particularly editing leave a lot to be desired, sadly as they were a good collection of songs. Brotherhood was just a mess, and Technique is almost too polished, pity about some of the songwriting. Republic is half an album and way too much filler, great production though, and Get Ready has them back in crap song mode. Sirens is the best production effort but there's three poor songs on there.
Interesting and fun to compare thoughts:
a lot of albums felt like seasons for me early on though
Movement-just crap to me, awful, production sucked, but the songs were mostly crap too, the better songs from that time period didnt make the album.
PCL-i dont know what you know about ultraviolence and We All Stand, but it always sounded like an early summer/late summer album to me. Bright and hopeful and energized, Age of Consent, The Village, so much energy. I hated We All Stand, and ultraviolence never would have won me over.
Low Life-interesting perspective, it does sound weird, but not butchered the way Brotherhood does. Low Life sounded like winter to me, cold, and sad, and walking an alley at night more or less (well this time of night, sunrise, elegia and subculture anyway, the others are brighter).
brotherhood-washed out sound, production just sounds awful flat to me. Sounded like fall, a lot like the feel of fall. Bare in mind Im from california lol, so my seasons are experienced a bit differently.
technique-ultimate spring album, just screams spring to me, ditto republic, though more summer spring.
the last two albums just seem like fall, and winter to me respectively and lack greatness.
Its interesting also in that i love technique and think it sounds virtually perfect, my only complaint is the opener which always struck me as silly song, but my god, i can't tell you how many times i walked to school in the spring of 1990 with a walkman on playing Run/Mr. Disco back to back on the way to school, or All the way/loveless.
Only song i played as frequently was Paul Simon's The Obvious Child during spring of 1991.
My first New Order LP was Power Corruption and Lies. I bought it in 1987 from a little record shop on Manchester Road close to the Clayton/Droylsden border. I passed it everyday to & from work on my Vespa 50 and would go in each Friday on pay day. PCL is still a favorite as like all firsts it leaves an indelible stamp.
substance 87, because somebody played blue monday 88 at a party. came into music late really. worked back from there, into joy division by substance again (thinking it was a greatest hits like the NO one, whoops, wrong lol)
spent ages waiting for republic. one pic i wish i had was taken at republic launch when "they pretended to go glossy, just to see what it was like". a full sized poster attached to a house on a side road in Maldon, Essex. Camera jammed afterwards and I lost the photos. quite incongruous the beach people up against a massive brick wall side of a house, in the arse end of nowhere.
after years of buying everything on cd.. heard the leak of WFTSC... didn't buy it. that whole 'draculas castle' lyric. man. embarrassing. luckily most non-NO fans not heard of it so dont have to defend the indefendable
12" of BLT was the first NO product I bought, the cassette of Technique was the first NO album I actually paid for. Though Substance on C90 ripped from my cousin's LP was the first NO album I heard, followed by Low-Life and Brotherhood C90s.
12" of Temptation/Hurt was 1st. I bought it over summer vacation 82, brought it back to school where a buddy I had said, "Wow, that bass sounds like Joy Division!" (We were in Eugene, Oregon--not a hotbed of obscure [for the US] British bands!) So I went backwards from there; bought PC&L day of release at the record store I worked in in LA after graduation. Saw them later that summer with about 20 of my closest friends in a dance hall that hasn't existed for decades. I was leaning against the stage, 1 foot from Hooky.
Substance in June of 2009 then Technique a few weeks later. I first heard Bizarre Love Triangle in June of 2007 and became more of a fan of their other music as time went on.
