New Order to begin work on ‘electronic synth album’ early next year

Biginoil wrote: Great, another thread advising musicians what is and is not acceptable for them to do.

Maybe they could all just do what they want and each one of us can choose whether to buy/bootleg like/dislike attend/stay as they see fit.

Or is someone going to tell me I can't do that, now?

are you the sort who gets intimidated by anonymous music fans discussing things on forums?

its a nice tactic for some people defending tribute bands to claim victimhood because of those bad boys and girls but the same people would prefer to silence the obvious ridicule and contempt the vast majority of fans have for tribute bands,lack of creativity or shamelessly cashing in.

YAY!

Sod the record company - Just set up your own label and sell it online; lower overheads and improved profits... although you do have to employ a team of internet sniffer dogs to take down links to your hard earned copyrighted ripped material.

effect returned wrote:

Biginoil wrote: Great, another thread advising musicians what is and is not acceptable for them to do.

Maybe they could all just do what they want and each one of us can choose whether to buy/bootleg like/dislike attend/stay as they see fit.

Or is someone going to tell me I can't do that, now?

are you the sort who gets intimidated by anonymous music fans discussing things on forums?

its a nice tactic for some people defending tribute bands to claim victimhood because of those bad boys and girls but the same people would prefer to silence the obvious ridicule and contempt the vast majority of fans have for tribute bands,lack of creativity or shamelessly cashing in.

I don't know what makes you think I feel intimidated by anything. I'm just amused by some of the points of view on offer here. I doubt it's the vast majority of anyone; just a small number of people who post the same thing over and over. I've been watching it for years. People who disagree tend to be crowded out. Lose interest. Leave it to the hysterical few to argue it out about how unfair the world is. The anonymity is most telling. You occasionally see them at gigs. Skulking around looking miserable and whispering that it's not as good as it used to be. Mostly they stay at home.

Shamelessly cashing in. Beautiful.

I don't like Bongo

Michael Monkhouse wrote: ... But you're probably right, at this point those projects could well morph into NO - as I mused ages ago.

Bad Lieutenant meets The Other Two?

Oh, great.

new material from new order? my arse it will be, it will be sumner solo effort under the new order banner at best.

The Eternal wrote: new material from new order? my arse it will be, it will be sumner solo effort under the new order banner at best.

What makes you think that? 😕 But I suppose with your screenname based on the JD song and that kind of attitude...maybe you don't care about New Order.

Biginoil wrote:

effect returned wrote:

Biginoil wrote: Great, another thread advising musicians what is and is not acceptable for them to do.

Maybe they could all just do what they want and each one of us can choose whether to buy/bootleg like/dislike attend/stay as they see fit.

Or is someone going to tell me I can't do that, now?

are you the sort who gets intimidated by anonymous music fans discussing things on forums?

its a nice tactic for some people defending tribute bands to claim victimhood because of those bad boys and girls but the same people would prefer to silence the obvious ridicule and contempt the vast majority of fans have for tribute bands,lack of creativity or shamelessly cashing in.

I don't know what makes you think I feel intimidated by anything. I'm just amused by some of the points of view on offer here. I doubt it's the vast majority of anyone; just a small number of people who post the same thing over and over. I've been watching it for years. People who disagree tend to be crowded out. Lose interest. Leave it to the hysterical few to argue it out about how unfair the world is. The anonymity is most telling. You occasionally see them at gigs. Skulking around looking miserable and whispering that it's not as good as it used to be. Mostly they stay at home.

Shamelessly cashing in. Beautiful.

well what makes me think that is because you seemingly are concerned at people telling you what you can and cant do.

I could say the people who defend hooky's greed and nostalgia etc are a small number of people,hysterical people and so on but ive yet to see anyone defend him apart from saying they'd like to see those old songs being played. and they'd say the same if re order did what hooky is doing and at least they have to dignity to not to claim its for artistic reasons.

You must have a sixth sense for spotting them at gigs, i suppose they are the ones who dont fill hookys wallet.

Yes shamelessly cashing in, no difference to kajagoogoo or howard jones nostalgia tours,hooky will probably get a wig of his hair circa 1987.

You're on the wrong thread, love.

This one is about what the rest of the band is allowed to do.

Hooky's career committee have a thread to themselves (although surprise surprise that's mostly you as well).

There isn't a thread for me yet.

effect returned wrote:

Yes shamelessly cashing in, no difference to kajagoogoo or howard jones nostalgia tours,hooky will probably get a wig of his hair circa 1987.

i saw limahl play at butlins a few years ago. he was excellent.

If it's truly a collaborative effort between the five of them, I have a feeling it couldn't be anything other than fantastic. Have them produce it themselves, have it truly be their record.

Hell, have Steve do another 'Procession' and make him write the lyrics, or throw Gillian on backup vocals instead of outsourcing it to some session diva. It'd be really interesting to see what Tom throws into the mix, as it would be his time to really shine creatively.

Cranelane wrote: I presume their record label would be awaiting the outcome of the legal situation before getting enthused about releasing new music by NO

How annoying would it be if Hooky also managed to put a block on new stuff as well as the Lost Sirens? Would he think 'Nah, let the fans have that one' or would it be 'Fuck 'em its not being released'.

Good job Jacks fucked off or Id be getting an angry Meme at this point...

Biginoil wrote: You're on the wrong thread, love.

This one is about what the rest of the band is allowed to do.

Hooky's career committee have a thread to themselves (although surprise surprise that's mostly you as well).

There isn't a thread for me yet.

Oh Yes there is...Link..

bloodynora wrote:

effect returned wrote:

Yes shamelessly cashing in, no difference to kajagoogoo or howard jones nostalgia tours,hooky will probably get a wig of his hair circa 1987.

i saw limahl play at butlins a few years ago. he was excellent.

hush hush.

johnaimarre wrote: If it's truly a collaborative effort between the five of them, I have a feeling it couldn't be anything other than fantastic. Have them produce it themselves, have it truly be their record.

Hell, have Steve do another 'Procession' and make him write the lyrics, or throw Gillian on backup vocals instead of outsourcing it to some session diva. It'd be really interesting to see what Tom throws into the mix, as it would be his time to really shine creatively.

Agree with you, the influence of Tom as the younger member may lead to something thats really good

effect returned wrote:

bloodynora wrote:

effect returned wrote:

Yes shamelessly cashing in, no difference to kajagoogoo or howard jones nostalgia tours,hooky will probably get a wig of his hair circa 1987.

i saw limahl play at butlins a few years ago. he was excellent.

hush hush.

i will not be silenced.

Coops wrote:

Cranelane wrote: I presume their record label would be awaiting the outcome of the legal situation before getting enthused about releasing new music by NO

How annoying would it be if Hooky also managed to put a block on new stuff as well as the Lost Sirens? Would he think 'Nah, let the fans have that one' or would it be 'Fuck 'em its not being released'.

Good job Jacks fucked off or Id be getting an angry Meme at this point...

It would be very annoying if that happened.

Hmmm i wonder who The Eternal could possibly be?

:not me btw!)

wrote: Hmmm i wonder who The Eternal could possibly be?

:not me btw!)

A troll, or a Joy Division fan visiting from JD Central, or Hooky himself?

The Eternal wrote: new material from new order? my arse it will be, it will be sumner solo effort under the new order banner at best.

Which would still be better than that fucking Light EP.

Coops wrote:

The Eternal wrote: new material from new order? my arse it will be, it will be sumner solo effort under the new order banner at best.

Which would still be better than that fucking Light EP.

Agreed, Coops.

Coops wrote:

The Eternal wrote: new material from new order? my arse it will be, it will be sumner solo effort under the new order banner at best.

Which would still be better than that fucking Light EP.

I thought the Burgess collaboration was the best thing any of the (recent) side projects did.

In fact, it was probably the only thing that sounded genuinely New Orderish, which is probably why I liked it so much.

The Mod is right again. Personally I've always been the first to rip the pooh out of everything they've done since Technique ('Lec excepted) but I like the BL album. In fact I may be in the minority but I consider it the most consistent Bernard effort for years - certainly pisses all over the wankathon pop of Republic and Raise the Pressure. Runaway is lovely, Poisonous Intent vaguely Crystally to me, and Twist of Fate trundles along merrily. Only Dynamo gets me hitting the jump button - it has B-side written all over it! Frebass? Hated that EP and thought thanks for the 6-year wait: YDKTAM starts well but never gets anywhere, Milky Way has been compared to Spinal Tap, that Dark Starr rant is the kinda shite anyone could make up with sufficient fluid (alcoholic, not bodily), and Live... is more Revenge than Monaco. BUT I did like the album and yes that includes the singer - shame their activity was shorter than my first shag. And my last one. As for this new album, it's gonna be fun discussing and theorising but let's not hold our breath eh?

This is the best news I've heard all week, that's for sure. I wasn't sure if NO would ever release any more new material, though I had them down for at least three more compilations.

Yes, it would be nice if they released those unfinished songs from WFTSC, though it's be a shame if Hooky wasn't involved in that.

Before the NO tour started last year, so many keyboards

http://instagram.com/p/C1gN3/?ref=nf

One thing about NO is that they made great synth pop songs as well as great guitar rock songs, so it would like the new album to have some kind of balance, 50% rock, 50% dance. I loved most of the guitar songs on WFTSC but the dancey songs...not so much, namely, Draculas Castle and to, a lesser extent, I Told You So (altough I have to admit that I like Guilt Is A Useless Emotion). So, If they want to do a dance album they have to do better than that.

shellshocker wrote:

Yes, it would be nice if they released those unfinished songs from WFTSC, though it's be a shame if Hooky wasn't involved in that.

Who says they're unfinshed? Hooky was the first one i heard announcing it until he seemingly changed his mind.

I am I the only one not looking forward to this? WFTSC seemed like the a good end to an era (with a couple crap songs thrown in to show that another album probably isn't in their best interest). BL was weak, with a couple decent songs... TOT, don't want to start on... Don't get me wrong, I'll buy it, but doubt it will be one that will be played often.... I predict a side project sound with the NO label slapped on... not what I want out of NO💀

I think it's just a reality that if a band/songwriter etc has produced something wonderful and critically acclaimed, it'll be hard and unrealistic to write something that matches that. There will always be fans thinking it's not good enough. Even the best songwriters cannot create masterpieces all the time. But I think the current lineup has the potential to write something decent. Of course, for better or worse, New Order fans like us, seem so hard to please.