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Origanally posted by Gerboy but I posted it again on the main Forum.
http://www.jpc.de/jpcng/poprock/detail/-/art/New-Order-The-Lost-Sirens/hnum/1895612
Gerboy is the MAN for finding this, how did he beat me to this, THANK YOU so much Gerboy for making my day.
I was sure this was gonna be a wind up...but no.
Well, I Told You So does sound like it's the Stuart Price mix. Considering how long we have been aware of the 'Sugarcane' song title, it's kinda disapointing (cheesy). Californian Grass sounds like it might be a decent tune but need to hear more of it. There's a nice piano sound going on on Recoil. Nothing here to really blow you away though, no WFTSC or even Krafty. Mind you, the lyrics on Shake it Up and I've Got A Feeling sound like offshoots from Krafty. Still, it's definitely on it's way; we can own it and move on.
Really like I,ll stay with you, Californian grass, and shake it up on first couple of listens.
I've especially liked 'I'll Stay With You', 'Sugarcane', 'Shake It Up, ' and 'I've got a feeling'. The songs in general (on the entire album) remind me of a mix between the albums Twisted Tenderness and WFTSC. Strangely, I think some of these songs sound better than some of the songs on 'Get Ready'. I'm not too disappointed right now.
Jesus! Well to be honest these should have been saved for the WFTSC deluxe edition i think! Shake it up sounds especially awful. I made the mistake of thinking Jetstream was the worst it was going to get. Californian Grass sounds reasonably promising but not much else to get excited about. Its hard to judge properly with previews but it sounds worse than i expected.
I'll stay with you sounds sweet as hell!! Pumped these are finally getting released. No way these are left over tracks, they were meant for an album release. Really can't wait till this comes out. 2013 should be a great year for New Order!!!
Helene's Friend on the French forum has kindly come up with a way of listening to all the clips continuously. Is this easy to do? I'm not too hot on computer-y stuff... http://www.jcpacaud.net/LostSirens.mp3
Debaser wrote: Helene's Friend on the French forum has kindly come up with a way of listening to all the clips continuously. Is this easy to do? I'm not too hot on computer-y stuff... http://www.jcpacaud.net/LostSirens.mp3
Thanks for doing this
I'll Stay With You (was Sister and Brother, right?) sounds great at firts listen, and Californian Grass is very good too. Except for its title of course. Sugarcane's silly but ok in a Krafty sort of way. The rest seem like duds at first listen, but may not be - for example, the preview for I've Got a Feeling stops right before the chorus. Dodgy lyrically but that's to be expected for the period. Sirens could've been one great album really.
Thanks for this. It's cool cos the trax sound okay and it means this more than a pipe dream. So as I'd like Melanie C's legs to ask me, how do you feel about us? Well... 1 is clearly Sister and Brother which Hook played with the Light and I have vague memories he also played it as a DJ. Sounds fairly strong to me, as long as Bernard doesn't lapse into his crapse 'Things're all right' poise. 2 The title was touted way back in 2004. Could be BL (which could be a compliment) or Wings (which couldn't). 3 Thumbs up - seems one of those melancholy dreamy songs I fell in love with NO over (think Second Nature, This Time of Night, even Vanishing Point). 4 - Bit clunky to me. Bit formulaic too. Need to hear more. 5 - I feel sorry for Brutal, no one wants an abortion. 6 - That kinda funky break reminded me of Crystal and Poisonous Intent. Could def get into this one. 7 - Again, it has that clunky feel - drums, guitars, lyrics all over the place. Years back I read a review of Revenge (my least favourite NO moment) saying every NO had a moment that trundled along with all the grace and finesse of a three-wheeled supermarket trolley: Technique had Guilty Partner, Low Life had the second side, One True Passion has the first side too. Too early to comment. 8 - Must be the remix. Really not that bad in its own right, but the beginning of the end for listeners of Sirens. So, overall, I'd say I'm intrigued. And not disappointed once more (see what I did there?). And as I'd like Melanie C's legs to tell me, you can have us and get into us gradually.
Really pleased this is to be released at last, it's like a weight has been lifted off my shoulders, that's what the ordah mean to me / us, shame its twinned with some sadness tat this is hookys last new order album. 2013 should be happy new order year
Debaser wrote: Helene's Friend on the French forum has kindly come up with a way of listening to all the clips continuously. Is this easy to do? I'm not too hot on computer-y stuff... http://www.jcpacaud.net/LostSirens.mp3
I use Audacity to record in wav format and to convert in mp3 format. It's as simple as recording radio on tape.
never judge a book by the cover so I shall reserve judgement until I have actually listened to them all in their entirety. You never know !
sugarcane and californian grass sound nice, the only bad thing is waiting a whole month to hear the full songs before it is released in January 2013 or maybe it might end up online before.
The lyrics (and title) of I'll Stay with You are hilarious in context! "Were his words cruel? / Were they unkind? / That guy's a fool / He's crossed the line" Staggering!
Much of the rest are hilarious for all the wrong reasons...chalk up yet another 'watcha doin' in track 2, sunshine and rain metaphors in Californian Grass, lurching list of cliches in I've Got a Feeling...
Recoil sounds interesting, look forward to hearing more. Shake it Up sounds like a Twisted Tenderness track. There is hope. It's a shame this couldn't have been snuck out more quietly as a curiosity for fans, the fanfare and controversy that has built up around it was only ever going to lead to a non-event in the bigger scheme of things.
From what I've heard these songs have a different feeling than the Waiting For The Siren's Call album. It is clear that they were meant for the next album that would have been released if Peter Hook did'nt leave the band.
amazing how you can all hear a few seconds of each song and determine how bad they are.
i guess it is true you are the ring-tone generation.
tarbox23 wrote: amazing how you can all hear a few seconds of each song and determine how bad they are.
i guess it is true you are the ring-tone generation.
From someone who's definitely not from the ring-tone generation... those short bits were long enough for me to know we will be disappointed.
Geri wrote:
tarbox23 wrote: amazing how you can all hear a few seconds of each song and determine how bad they are.
i guess it is true you are the ring-tone generation.
From someone who's definitely not from the ring-tone generation... those short bits were long enough for me to know we will be disappointed.
They sound pretty good to me,
The back cover of the album looks pretty good also.
I think if they had chosen to make one 12-14 track album, with some B-sides leftover, it could have been a rather crazy album all over the place. Don't know if the album would have gotten many great reviews, but it would have gotten more attention just for audacity, and a more solid set of songs.
Seems like WFTSC seemed to have more "synth" songs...? Maybe the plan was to write a few possible electronic/ dance songs to fill out the proposed second album. Or maybe WFTSC was supposed to be more "dance" heavy, while the second album more "rock" heavy?
When these come out I'd like to make my own Sirens LP (11 of the best tracks) and B-sides (which ones'd work better as flips e.g. Player In The League is listenable as a B-side but would have disgraced Get Ready IMO though it was originally there as Field). But I have a fuck of a lot of time on my hands.
Michael Monkhouse wrote: When these come out I'd like to make my own Sirens LP (11 of the best tracks) and B-sides (which ones'd work better as flips e.g. Player In The League is listenable as a B-side but would have disgraced Get Ready IMO though it was originally there as Field). But I have a fuck of a lot of time on my hands.
I'm thinking about doing the same. I'd pick Who's Joe, Hey Now(yes, I do like it a lot, awesome bassline), WFTSC obviously, Krafty and Turn for sure. As for Lost Sirens, I doubt all 6 songs are good, so I guess it still needs a track or two from the original album.
Who's Jo DEF HNWYD Like the Oasisy tune but not the wanky sort-yerself-out-mate lyrics (cf Close Range) Sirens DEF Krafty Not my fist choice but... ITYS No MNAD Low on the list. God knows how it got compared to the Stones. DC Actually I like it cos the synth stabs remind me of Technique and Hooky's bass is up in the mix after the wank fodder of Republic and Rest Of. I even like the words - meaningless and heartfelt at the same time. So I'm in the minority but YES. Jetstream Don't know why this attracts so much bile. As Hook pointed out, it gets better with mixing, so I'd have Arthur Baker's take. Also I'd like to have sex with Ana (you can add an 'l' to that). GIAUE When I first heard it I thought Pet Shop Boys (could be a compliment) or Raise the Pressure (couldn't). But it's a grower and every NO LP needs one synth-heavy track with belting bass (cf Someone Like You) so YES. Turn ABSOLUTELY YES WO No Hellbent Too clunky for me
So far then, 6 defs. Just waiting for the Lost Sirens' call (see what I did there?).
I didn't know Mornight Night & Day got compared to the Stones, but do you mean Rolling Stones or Stone Roses? And which song? Dracula's Castle is a good song indeed, I'm in that minority as well. Arthur Baker's take on Jetstream made it vastly better, but for an album track the ideal would be something like that, but just a bit faster.
All in all, I agree with Hooky regarding WFTSC's whole production. Most of it is just too vocals-driven, it feels like a waste of very good melodies, except for Working Overtime. Fuck it.
Volturno wrote: I didn't know Mornight Night & Day got compared to the Stones, but you mean Rolling Stones or Stone Roses? And which song? Dracula's Castle is a good song indeed, I'm in that minority as well. Arthur Baker's take on Jetstream made it vastly better, but for an album track the ideal would be something like that, but just a bit faster.
All in all, I agree with Hooky regarding WFTSC's whole production. Most of it is just too vocals-driven, it feels like a waste of very good melodies, except for Working Overtime. Fuck it.
Has Hooky done a new interview?
Would I TOLD YOU SO have been better received as a b-side? I know it is not NewOrdery but I love this song (the WFTSC version).
Just glad LS is coming out. Finally. We can then all move on to hopefully better days.
Volturno wrote: I didn't know Mornight Night & Day got compared to the Stones, but do you mean Rolling Stones or Stone Roses? And which song? Dracula's Castle is a good song indeed, I'm in that minority as well. Arthur Baker's take on Jetstream made it vastly better, but for an album track the ideal would be something like that, but just a bit faster.
All in all, I agree with Hooky regarding WFTSC's whole production. Most of it is just too vocals-driven, it feels like a waste of very good melodies, except for Working Overtime. Fuck it.
Yes I'm sure I read a review where MNAD got compared to the anthem rock of the Rolling Stones (not a specific song, though fact fans will be interested to know that Citadel was covered live by Revenge). Struck me as, technically speaking, fucking bollocks. Speaking of songs that are listenable but should be relegated to B-side status... Dynamo.
most of them sound pretty good so far.
except 'told you so'.. never liked that one..
later -1
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