NME : Do we really want new music from New Order ?

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Alarming news on the wires that New Order are readying some new tracks for mass consumption. Obviously the reanimated Manchester legends could be coming up with something a cut above the satisfactory rock they've churned out periodically over the last 20 years, but don't bet your die-cut 'Blue Monday' sleeves on it.

That's the thing about getting the old band back together – the creative impetus tends to wither when you've got all that lovely back catalogue to plunder. Since their reunion two years ago – four years after splitting permanently with Peter Hook – New Order have only seen fit to release 'Lost Sirens', a selection of out-takes from their last proper, lacklustre album 'Waiting For The Sirens' Call'. Hardly the action of a band overflowing with confidence at their capacity for sharp new material.

But maybe they'll turn around and hit us full in the face with half a dozen new 'Thieves Like Us'-es. That'd be good, but sourfaced pessimism says otherwise. History has made us feel like this Read more at http://www.nme.com/blogs/nme-blogs/do-we-really-want-new-music-from-new-order#1grL0ILEBCxZ5Emv.99

Oh piss off NME and get back to immortalising your landfill indie crap.

NME = No more entertainment & where did the journo get his info ! mmmh NOOL I suspect.

The NME will probably criticise, no matter what they do.

Not read the NME in years, but the last issue I checked out was a pale shadow of the once excellent music weekly, with articles seemingly written by - and aimed at - attention-span-deficit 13 year olds.

Anyway.... in answer to the question:

"Do we really want new music from New Order?"

I'd say "The NME and it's current readership may not, but some people do, yes."

I do, but I'm also hoping for something a bit more exciting than Lost Sirens (although I quite like most of Waiting for the Sirens Call - I actually prefer it to to Get Ready.)

HTH.

I think the NME needs to look closer to home if it wants to find something that's past its best and now merely a shadow of its heyday.

Johnny James wrote: I think the NME needs to look closer to home if it wants to find something that's past its best and now merely a shadow of its heyday.

Even if they believed that New Order are past it's best...it's hypocritical coming from a magazine such as NME.[And at this point, the NME will criticise if they release something, and they criticise if they tour.

DO WE REALLY WANT NEWS FROM NME?

nope. bunch of twonks.

Who cares about NME?

NME would sooner listen to a load of bands that sound like new order.

the new tracks are for us the fans not NME current readers whoever they may be.

NME is all just pictures these days isn't it? Their website is their biggest embarrassment though. It's fucking apalling. Just one big mess.

bad lieutenant and lost sirens and numerous assorted unknown , to me ,singles (brutal,miracle cure,such a good thing etc.) emerged and filled in nicely. they are again in the studio with numerous ideas, so instead of searching for newish music on you tube or expecting anything remarkable by any other old band , or trusting a friend's suggestions ; i trust bernard , steven, gillian, phil, and tom to create interesting, brilliant new songs , and continue until they cannot, many, many years from now. those that libel new order have an enormous army of fans to deal with. nme may pick on u2, or bob dylan, or fleet foxes, but insulting new order is blasphemy.

They have TO2 & Bad Lieutenant material from studio. Think that they can rework those songs again as Now Order and produce some nice songs.

If the NME want to sneer they should do so at the bands who have got back together and have not made any attempt to write new music. I am thinking of bands like The Pixies who have been on the reunion trail since 2004 and have recorded one new song in the meantime. I just hope New Order will release some new material this year and that we don't have to wait until 2016 for new tunes. Speaking of band reunions, how long before REM get back together...

Totally depends on the quality of the music. If it's shit or even just ok, then maybe it's time to stop. If it's good then I'm sure we'll all be thrilled. Let's hope the lyrics on the first new song they release don't start with...

Cranelane wrote: I am thinking of bands like The Pixies who have been on the reunion trail since 2004 and have recorded one new song in the meantime.

Er, which is one more song that the current line-up of New Order have released in that time.

El Jarvo wrote:

Cranelane wrote: I am thinking of bands like The Pixies who have been on the reunion trail since 2004 and have recorded one new song in the meantime.

Er, which is one more song that the current line-up of New Order have released in that time.

Still, I don't understand why they're only criticising New Order. If this was a general feature about older bands touring nowadays, with several other bands mentioned, then I understand, but why are they only criticising New Order? Like I've said, NME will probably complain if New Order tour, and they will probably complain if they release anything new. You can never satisfy them and their indie hipster fanbase.

leather-girl wrote:

El Jarvo wrote:

Cranelane wrote: I am thinking of bands like The Pixies who have been on the reunion trail since 2004 and have recorded one new song in the meantime.

Er, which is one more song that the current line-up of New Order have released in that time.

Still, I don't understand why they're only criticising New Order. If this was a general feature about older bands touring nowadays, with several other bands mentioned, then I understand, but why are they only criticising New Order? Like I've said, NME will probably complain if New Order tour, and they will probably complain if they release anything new. You can never satisfy them and their indie hipster fanbase.

They are not just criticizing New Order, the article that I see mentions many other 80s and 90s bands. I think it is a rather fair, if snarky, criticism. Unless New Order releases something new by the end of the year, that will be two years of oldies, not exactly a sign of an inspired band.

On the other hand, why dis New Order for at least trying new material, unlike Pavement and the Pixies? They are not optimistic that the new music will be good. Bad Lou was mostly ignored, will the latest New Order be worthy of attention or an embarrassment? Personally, I would wait and see and find out what they actually do, and have low expectations... this is a band at the back end of their career.

leather-girl wrote:

El Jarvo wrote:

Cranelane wrote: I am thinking of bands like The Pixies who have been on the reunion trail since 2004 and have recorded one new song in the meantime.

Er, which is one more song that the current line-up of New Order have released in that time.

Still, I don't understand why they're only criticising New Order. If this was a general feature about older bands touring nowadays, with several other bands mentioned, then I understand, but why are they only criticising New Order? Like I've said, NME will probably complain if New Order tour, and they will probably complain if they release anything new. You can never satisfy them and their indie hipster fanbase.

I presume with The Pixies there are issues between certain members of the band to contend with and maybe that is why Frank Black continues to record as a solo artist between tours with his old band who when they tour go through the motions on stage and then go their separate ways with their hefty paychecks afterwards.

Actually it is quiet possible for all that we know that if New Order had not reconvened last year Bernard would have go on to make that album with Stuart Price which was once rumoured to be in the pipeline..

their main rivals, u2, and the bunnymen have been in my opinion boring, nearly unlistenable , for 10 years. bernard and mates ,alternatively, have released numerous songs that have gotten at least 1000 listens by me in that same time. and compared to mccartney , dylan, stones, clapton,and dozens more of my beloved music makers, bernard has outdistanced himself from all to a stellar degree. the young man is blessed, very much a favorite of the son of god. there will be more songs of the very same standard .

I couldn't care less about the NME anymore. I used to read it, but its just pretentious hipster bullshit. I mean, they are so bad now and have such a declining readership they had to put Rhianna on the front cover. That was an awful issue anyway, especially Jack Whites bit.

They can say what they want, but at least New Order are going to record something, rather than nothing.

Charmingman93 wrote: I couldn't care less about the NME anymore. I used to read it, but its just pretentious hipster bullshit. I mean, they are so bad now and have such a declining readership they had to put Rhianna on the front cover. That was an awful issue anyway, especially Jack Whites bit.

They can say what they want, but at least New Order are going to record something, rather than nothing.

I can't stand her or her b-friend. They can both go far away forever with Bieber.

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Easy question this.

If it's an album Working Overtimes, Californian Grasses and Rock The Shacks then NO!

If it's an album with tracks as strong as Crystal then YES!

Agreed, Californian Grass is one of the best on the release, instrumentally if not lyrically... Best of all is I'll Stay With You. I consider it a ghost single as in the same ilk as Regret and Crystal it's both the initial and the strongest track! Plus I think it's the only one they've played live, at least so far...?

Linus Solanki wrote: http://www.nme.com/blogs/nme-blogs/do-we-really-want-new-music-from-new-order

Alarming news on the wires that New Order are readying some new tracks for mass consumption. Obviously the reanimated Manchester legends could be coming up with something a cut above the satisfactory rock they've churned out periodically over the last 20 years, but don't bet your die-cut 'Blue Monday' sleeves on it.

That's the thing about getting the old band back together – the creative impetus tends to wither when you've got all that lovely back catalogue to plunder. Since their reunion two years ago – four years after splitting permanently with Peter Hook – New Order have only seen fit to release 'Lost Sirens', a selection of out-takes from their last proper, lacklustre album 'Waiting For The Sirens' Call'. Hardly the action of a band overflowing with confidence at their capacity for sharp new material.

But maybe they'll turn around and hit us full in the face with half a dozen new 'Thieves Like Us'-es. That'd be good, but sourfaced pessimism says otherwise. History has made us feel like this Read more at http://www.nme.com/blogs/nme-blogs/do-we-really-want-new-music-from-new-order#1grL0ILEBCxZ5Emv.99

yes we do.

maybe try this question on a different website.

Ah... sorry... now I see; the title of the NME article is the title of the thread.

Well, if NME really don't want any more new order they should stop celebrating everything NO and JD have done in the past in order to remove any confusing potential encouragement.

Saddos!

there isn't anyone else on earth creating such consistently great songs . i trust new order to continue where they left off. for example bernard's cover of 'in the ghetto' is better than elvis' original. and bad lieutenant songs are great. compare working overtime or rock the shack with anything by anyone else of the last decade. california grass is gorgeous. and blank and jones miracle cure with bernard was another stellar song . there isn't the slightest possibility for these guys to put out anything but first class timeless songs . is this a new order site

If they are writing music to satisfy themselves that's great! Cause if it's not they will be all shit!

Remember the 80's: "We write the music we want to play!".

They do not need a new album or whatever, just sell the songs on the internet. Make theirs fans happy and go home!

Money? Go on tour again!