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Hi there everyone, just noticed that Steve's new book is on amazon.co.uk - to be published 15 May 2019.

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"Stephen Morris has had a distinguished career, spanning nearly forty years, as a pivotal member of Joy Division and New Order with his trademark machine-like drumming. After the death of Joy Division's singer, Ian Curtis, in 1980, Bernard Sumner, Peter Hook, Morris and his wife Gillian formed New Order, one of the most critically acclaimed and influential bands of the late twentieth century. New Order became the flagship band for Tony Wilson's Factory Records and, alongside him, opened the infamous Hacienda nightclub, the centre of the acid house movement. In 2015, after a ten-year hiatus, New Order released Music Complete; which charted at #2 in its first week of release (the band's highest position in over twenty years).

Stephen's book won't be that typical music autobiography, which tends to be high on mischief and low on the music. Part memoir, part aural history, it will be a hybrid memoir in Stephen's wry and witty voice. Stephen will weave a dual narrative of growing up in the North West during the 1970s with how the music actually works. It will also explore what it is to be part of a mythologised band and the idea of what you do becoming who you are."

Also an Oral History of Joy Division by Jon Savage due Apr 2019:

This searing light, the sun and everything else: Joy Division: The Oral History

"Joy Division emerged in the mid-70s at the start of a two-decades long Manchester scene that was to become much mythologised. It was then a city still labouring in the wake of the war and entering a phase of huge social and physical change, and something of this spirit made its way into the DNA of the band. Over the course of two albums, a handful of other seminal releases, and some legendary gigs, Joy Division became the most successful and exciting underground band of their generation. Then, on the brink of a tour to America, Ian Curtis took his own life.

In This searing light, the sun and everything else, Jon Savage has assembled three decades worth of interviews with the principle players in the Joy Division story: Bernard Sumner, Peter Hook, Stephen Morris, Deborah Curtis, Peter Saville, Tony Wilson, Paul Morley, Alan Hempsall, Lesley Gilbert, Terry Mason, Anik Honoré, and many more. It is the story of how a band resurrected a city, how they came together in circumstances that are both accidental and extraordinary, and how their music galvanised a generation of fans, artists and musicians. It is a classic story of how young men armed with electric guitars and good taste in literature can change the world with four chords and three-and-a-half minutes of music. And it is the story of how illness and demons can rob the world of a shamanic lead singer and visionary lyricist.

This searing light, the sun and everything else presents the history of Joy Division in an intimate and candid way, as orchestrated by the lodestar of British music writing, Jon Savage."

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Welcome to the forum Benj65. I sometimes see the visitor numbers on here showing anywhere between 50 and 130 (the higher figures especially on Sundays), but see the same few people actually posting. So by all means feel free to add to the number of people who post rather than just lurk.

If you search for the -perhaps unlikely- title of New Order drummer's memoir to Contable you will find a thread already in existence, albeit not visted for a while (I think everyone got tired of waiting for the uh, 2018 release).

And if you search This searing light, the sun... you'll find a thread for that one.

Personally I'd like to know that they've at least started another album by now, but who know knows if they ever will...

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Oh yes, look at that.

Sorry, obviously I need a bit of sharpening up, many thanks Debaser. I haven't checked the forum for a few years so that explains my error(s). I did join 7 years ago but haven't had much to say.

Thanks for the welcome!

I have been a New Order fan since mid-1981, they became my favourite band ever by early 1982 and have remained so since. I have more less given up on them in terms of new music, last time I saw them was the Roxy concert in 2011. I also saw them Wellington 1982 x 2; Auckland 1985 and Brixton Academy 2001.

I will at some stage post a long-ish recollection of the 2 x Wellington gigs of December 1982, the second of which I attended in my school uniform(!), and which I have a good quality tape of, thanks to Student Radio Active 89FM re-broadcast in 1983 from a reel to reel.

I'll probably buy the Steve Morris book, he always makes me laugh when I see him interviewed. Coincidentally or not a good friend of mine lives literally around the corner from Barton St, Macclesfield, every time I visit I see slightly baffled looking foreign fans outside Ian's old gaff. Met a few at the graveyard and all.

If I see the Other Two in the supermarket next time I'm there (2 weeks time), I'll say hello.

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Welcome, benj.

I’m looking forward to Steve’s book. Think it’ll be something more interesting to get my teeth stuck into rather than yet another JD book going over the same old stuff. So i don’t think I’ll bother with Jon Savage’s one.

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Welcome aboard (back!).

It's always good to have new people posting here. There's a few of us trying to keep the board alive (as best we can), as it can be a pretty great place to find things out. If you've got a question to ask, don't be afraid to post. There's lots of knowledgeable people here and, even if they don't respond directly in the thread, they may well send you a PM.

Incidentally, I find this board far more preferable for finding information out than the 3 New Order Facebook groups I'm a member of. Those places just seem full of people endlessly quoting lyrics and asking what other fans favourite tracks are. Not that there isn't a place for that; it's just that you get the same questions being asked on an almost daily basis, which gets a bit tiring. Ask anyone a significant question on there and you get virtually no response (aside from people 'liking' your question, for some reason).

1981, eh? Wow. That's pretty impressive and would put you ahead of most of us in terms of years (1987 for me). Will be interested to hear your recollections from the two NO gigs you mentioned.

Yeah - I'll be getting both books, but am most looking forward to Steve's. Mr Savage's book will likely be fine, but I can't imagine there's going to be too much new information it it (as Fotzepolitic mentioned). Steve's should be full of insider information, though and bound to be a) geeky and b) humourus. So I'm all over that. Trouble is, it just keeps getting pushed back.

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Cheers, people, that's nice. I'm a Facebook refusenik so I'm glad to hear I'm not missing out on much.

At the risk of annoying Perspex, just a couple of things to share from the Colonies back in the day - I became a fan through a wonderful John Peel-like FM show ("ZM All Nighter" syndicated throughout NZ 12-4am), hosted by the truly magnificent Barry Jenkin aka 'Dr Rock'. Me and a few mates imported all the JD/NO records via Adrian's mail order in Essex or my parents purchasing in Australia. They were quite easy to get, and were much better quality than the tepid local versions released.

Once I heard EGG on the FAC Benelux 12" in 1982, that was it, I was convinced. Electronica and dancing was the way to go. Barry J got an advance copy of Blue Monday in early March 1983 and I taped it and took it the next day to a grotty party full of bootboys (local skinheads who wore DMs and who will appear in my Dec 1982 memories being abusive to Barney). It was a SENSATION. I had to play it over and over (8-10 times?) while everyone jumped around like mad. Up and down, rolled on the floor in their delight - they had never heard the like before. Fantastic memory!

For me Power Corruption and Lies remains the best thing ever. Right record, right time. Hearing Age of Consent followed by The Village was like the sun coming out, everything was going to be alright after all. NZ was pretty shit at that point, we had enjoyed a horrible political regime since 1975 which was on its last legs so Your Silent Face hit like a secular hymn (I'm a Good Catholic Boy) whereas Leave Me Alone (oooh! the song's title is in the lyrics!)…

I agree with Hooky that it is a perfect encapsulation of the band. Yadda yadda.

So does anyone know for sure that PCL will get the full treatment like Movement??? I'd love to know.

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^ haha! Loved the bit about the skinheads rolling around on the floor to Blue Monday. Brilliant.

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Benj65 wrote: Cheers, people, that's nice. I'm a Facebook refusenik so I'm glad to hear I'm not missing out on much.

At the risk of annoying Perspex...

Hey - no chance of that. I love hearing stories of that nature. The things that get my goat up on FB is the incessant quoting of lyrics and talk about tracks that basically consists of 'do you like True Faith, 'cos I do..?' (there's probably a fair degree of NO fans that like True Faith, I would imagine). It wouldn't bother me as much, if it wasn't that the groups were filled with multiple example of this type even day.

Good old honest reflections and / or critical analysis of tracks are great and are certainly welcome here.

Sounds like you discovered the band at a great time. EGG / Procession is a personal favourite single of mine. EGG, especially, must've sounded amazing at the time; it certainly did when I first heard it in '87, on 'Substance'. It's a giant leap forward for the band and seems to be the start of a trend by the band of having the 12" be the official version, with the 7" being an edited down version of the main track. New Order 12"s were always worth getting for this reason. If you compare them to other similar (!) bands' 12" records, they are in a different league. Other 12"s just seem to stretch the songs; NO's seemed much more densely packed.

I've also always thought 'Everything's Gone Green' is a brilliant song title too. One of their best.

As regards PC&L, fingers crossed. No official news as of yet and I haven't heard murmurings, like we had with 'Movement' (A while back, mastering engineer, Frank Arkwright had tweeted that he had been listening to Movement demos, so a deluxe edition seemed likely (although I'm not sure whether he was actually on the project in the end)).

I can't see that they won't do a PC&L deluxe, but I guess it may also depend on how well the Movement one does. I guess there's always a risk of doing the NO albums in order. Although there's a certain logic in releasing them in this way, Movement isn't massively popular, even with a lot of New Order fans. If it sells badly, it could, presumably, affect the rest of the project going forward (either by 'killing it' or reducing the size and contents of the box set).

I really hope that it sells well and I personally am massively excited for the release (as you'll notice by me treading into 'trainspotting' territory on the Movement thread).[eek3]

One or two people on this board (I think) have been involved with Movement deluxe, so they may know whether a PC&L set has been 'green-lit', but they may not be able to comment on this (New Order Official Secrets Act etc. [;)] )

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perspexorange wrote: this board far more preferable for finding information out than the 3 New Order Facebook groups

FB groups are, in the words of Shakespeare, fucking shit:

  1. Someone puts a random lyric from a song that came out 30 years ago and went out of date the day before - preferably with 1 misqoutation and 2 spelling mistakes.
  2. Someone else puts another lyric from the song - preferably with 1 misqoutation and 2 spelling mistakes and 3 exclamation marks.
  3. Someone writes the name of the song. Well done, you're a fan.
  4. Someone writes, 'Love that song!' Well done, you're a fan.
  5. Someone writes, 'Gonna play that song now!' Well done, you're a fan.
  6. Repeat until you find someone to fuck. Can't be arsed with Steve's bollocks. As for more Savage bull, I'd rather have my eyes gouged out by a white-hot needle dripping mucous from a member of One Direction's armpit.
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Michael Monkhouse wrote:

perspexorange wrote: this board far more preferable for finding information out than the 3 New Order Facebook groups

FB groups are, in the words of Shakespeare, fucking shit:

  1. Someone puts a random lyric from a song that came out 30 years ago and went out of date the day before - preferably with 1 misqoutation and 2 spelling mistakes.
  2. Someone else puts another lyric from the song - preferably with 1 misqoutation and 2 spelling mistakes and 3 exclamation marks.
  3. Someone writes the name of the song. Well done, you're a fan.
  4. Someone writes, 'Love that song!' Well done, you're a fan.
  5. Someone writes, 'Gonna play that song now!' Well done, you're a fan.
  6. Repeat until you find someone to fuck. Can't be arsed with Steve's bollocks. As for more Savage bull, I'd rather have my eyes gouged out by a white-hot needle dripping mucous from a member of One Direction's armpit.

Your team lost at the weekend?

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Excerpt from 'I am Monkey', Steve's forthcuming buke: 'Writing a buke now! Aye, writing me buke! And everyone's like, 'Yeah, yer tourin' mate?' No mate, can't be touring cos I'm writing me buke, like! 'Ere ang on, ain't someone else wote a buke before? And I'm like, yeah well, I guess, so, but it's my turn now! So what do you think of it so far? Me buke? 'Ere ang on, gimme a chance! Gotta buke to write ain't I'?' Excerpt from 'Sound and and Oeuvre Acai', Jon Savage's book which has totally fuck all to do with Joy Division except the title: 'Ah yes, the green moist graspings of elevenfold ennui shattering the enlisted unfisted shock of the old amid 54 blackened rabbits springing like mice at Witner in Summer dew, no trees coiffeured by Alan Williams for he knew and knew not he was unspilt, and where was Ian? For Hook told me to fook off, a brave and unwise gesture of ill-gotten mongeese shredding denouement, the new moment, was this the final propitious pursed lipped pigmy? Ah not Ian.'

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I've been to Bernard and Peters book signings (the Hacienda in Peters case, I have a copy of the Substance book signed by him but wasn't there to witness it so it might have been signed by his dustman for all I know), here's hoping Steve does a signing tour for this one too.

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Michael Monkhouse wrote: Excerpt from 'I am Monkey', Steve's forthcuming buke: 'Writing a buke now! Aye, writing me buke! And everyone's like, 'Yeah, yer tourin' mate?' No mate, can't be touring cos I'm writing me buke, like! ...

Michael Monkhouse wrote: Can't be arsed with Steve's bollocks.

I think this may be because Steve is quite funny without aspiring to be a stand up comedian.

Jealousy is a terrible thing Mr M!

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Ken Doherty wrote:

I've been to Bernard and Peters book signings (the Hacienda in Peters case, I have a copy of the Substance book signed by him but wasn't there to witness it so it might have been signed by his dustman for all I know), here's hoping Steve does a signing tour for this one too.

I have a rare unsigned copy.

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Debaser wrote:

Jealousy is a terrible thing Mr M!

The only person I'm jealous of is Matt Cardle because he has kissed Mel C. Strange cos I don't really want to kiss Matt.

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A playback of Unknown Pleasures followed by a Q&A and book signing announced for the Social at the end of May : The Quietus

Just booked a ticket, now have to hope that Gillian will be next and I'll have books signed by all four members of New Order.

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It seems this is to be vol 1 of 2 vols. This one JD, next ('early 2020') will be NO.

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Yeah, found out about this earlier today.

On the one hand, I’m pleased that we’re getting two books. On the other hand, I’m disappointed that we will have to wait a while for the New Order volume, as that’s where the technical bits will really shine, I would imagine (and definitely the bits I’m most interested in). I guess Steve could go into detail about Hannett’s production work in that first volume, but I really want to read about all the bonkers stuff they put into songs like The Perfect Kiss, Fine Time etc.

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perspexorange wrote: Yeah, found out about this earlier today.

On the one hand, I’m pleased that we’re getting two books. On the other hand, I’m disappointed that we will have to wait a while for the New Order volume, as that’s where the technical bits will really shine, I would imagine (and definitely the bits I’m most interested in). I guess Steve could go into detail about Hannett’s production work in that first volume, but I really want to read about all the bonkers stuff they put into songs like The Perfect Kiss, Fine Time etc.

Yep me too.

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Not sure if this has already been posted, but Steve has announced a series of Book Signings, Q&A's, DJ-Sets for the book launch:-

May 9th - Manchester, Dancehall* May 13th - Liverpool, British Music Experience* May 17th - Hebden, Trades Club* May 22nd - London, The Social^ May 23rd - Glasgow, Mitchell Theatre

* Interviewed by Dave Haslam / DJ Set from Stephen ^Unknown Pleasures Playback

Check out New Order's website for details/links & what-have-you

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I just got my ticket for the 22nd in London. It's about 100 yards from where I work so couldn't be better.

I wouldn't even have know it was happening if it wasn't for this forum - cheers Ken Doherty - I am well pleased [:)]

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Blue 5 wrote: I just got my ticket for the 22nd in London. It's about 100 yards from where I work so couldn't be better.

I wouldn't even have know it was happening if it wasn't for this forum - cheers Ken Doherty - I am well pleased [:)]

You're welcome [:)]

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That's great.

He was daft as a brush back then too. :-)

Can't wait for this book. I have a hard copy pre-ordered but I'm probably going to shell out for a digital copy too. Much easier to read in bed and no chance of spilling tea and biscuits on it.

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Steve is on the Radcliffe & Maconie show tomorrow morning (Saturday 11th May) 7am til 10am on 6Music.

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It looks like some people on Facebook have got copies of the book already (some from the signing(s) and some from independent bookshops).

Pretty annoying as mine isn't due to arrive from Amazon until 16/05/19, which also appears to be the digital release date.

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perspexorange wrote: It looks like some people on Facebook have got copies of the book already (some from the signing(s) and some from independent bookshops).

Pretty annoying as mine isn't due to arrive from Amazon until 16/05/19, which also appears to be the digital release date.

Was listed on U.S. Amazon site as "unavailabe". Now not listed at all. So I ordered it from amazon.uk. Who knows when the fuck I'll get it!

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Fotzepolitic wrote: Steve is on the Radcliffe & Maconie show tomorrow morning (Saturday 11th May) 7am til 10am on 6Music.

I recorded, edited out songs (though the start and ends of songs still included), joined together and uploaded the file to MediaFire.Grab it here.

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What do you call a cross between Stephen Morris and Gillian Gilbert? Tracey Thorn.

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My copy has landed - looking forward to this - see you in a couple of days. :D

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I cancelled mine from Amazon a few days ago and pre-ordered a signed copy from Rough Trade instead.

Annoyingly, it still hasn’t dispatched yet. Typical.

Will buy a digital copy tonight anyway, which will tide me over.

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My copy was dispatched from Amazon UK yesterday and will arrive...June 4th.

No spoilers!

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Mine arrived today from amazon. Pissed off there’s signed ones at roug trade. First new order book not signed.

Had to miss his talk and book signing in Manchester. As already had tickets for sleaford Mods I in Derby. Did anyone go to any of Steve’s book signings? Anyone ask if they are going to record some new music?

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Amazon tell me mine is arriving on, erm, Sunday. Sunday? An odd day to have something delivered but hopefully I’ll be home.

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I’ve had items delivered on a Sunday before from amazon, so. Think you’ll be ok

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My signed copy has been dispatched. Should be at my home tomorrow.

Read a chapter and a half of the digital edition last night.

What I’ve read so far is nice and breezy.

Looking forward to getting to the meat and potatoes of the book.

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The Shadow wrote: I’ve had items delivered on a Sunday before from amazon, so. Think you’ll be ok

Yep. Amazon reliably deliver on a Sunday. Even had stuff on a Bank Holiday.

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Sunday, Bloody Sunday... You’ve got to mow the lawn, wash the car.

I bloody love Partridge. I could quote him all day.

Badly tarmacked drives... in this country.

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I want to stop quoting Alan Partridge, but it's such a-haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaard thing to do.

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My copy was delivered this morning in the end. Good timing as I’d just woken up. Looks great, some fantastic pics on first glance through.

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Just ordered this myself....been in two minds as i don't like joy division but caved in

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Steve started writing his book way back in 2005? At the start he writes about being in a hotel in Tokyo as New Order are in Japan to play the Fuji Festival and the last time they played at that was 2005, right?

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Went to the Book Q&A at Hebden Bridge Trades last Friday and thoroughly enjoyed it.

Steve was extremely witty (as expected) with his anecdotes, ably helped-out by Haslam's lines of questioning.

The book-signing was great, with Steve allowing time for a bit of chat with each person who queued - seeing as I asked him, he did share that plans are well advanced for the Definitive boxset for PC&L …….….. YES!!!!!

Gillian attended also & the banter went back and forth from the stage during the Q&A - at the end, she was also good enough to add her signature to the copies of the book signed by Steve.

All in all, a crackin' night

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Sportak-Mustgo wrote: he did share that plans are well advanced for the Definitive boxset for PC&L …….….. YES!!!!

Good news, indeed! Can’t bloody wait.

Glad you had a good time. Man, I love the pair of them. They come across as lovely, normal people.

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Andy wrote: My copy was dispatched from Amazon UK yesterday and will arrive...June 4th.

No spoilers!

A tip of the hat to Royal Mail.

The book arrived Monday evening even though the Amazon UK site still is stating delivery on June 4th!

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I went to the Q&A/signing at the Social last night - it was a good night (although maybe it went on just a little bit too long), apart from the three or four twats sat near the front shouting rubbish at each other throughout the playback of Unknown Pleasures: I don't think people should be expected to sit in hushed reverence, but I don't want to hear a moron shouting out about how he didn't like the last episode of Game of Thrones, and similarly brain dead musings FFS.

Gillian was again there, other people were asking for autographs and pictures but I decided to leave it until she does something similar for her book (if/when one ever comes out) I had a very brief chat with Stephen - I was near the end of the queue to get books signed and thought it best to keep it brief by the time I got to meet him: amongst other things he told me that for the European tour later in the year, they decided to go to places they haven't been to before, and also with the live album coming out in the summer , there is supposed to be a DVD coming out at some point too.

I had a quick flick through the book on the train on the way home, but I probably won't get round to actually trying to read it until I go on holiday in August.

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Ken Doherty wrote: with the live album coming out in the summer , there is supposed to be a DVD coming out at some point too.

This is good news. Hope it happens. Thanks for the info.

Glad you had a good time and hopefully it wasn't too spoiled by the inconsiderate a**eholes.

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Ken Doherty wrote:

...although maybe it went on just a little bit too long...

Yeah - I left after an hour when the host was still playing his own records and presenting his little history of punk and the 70s.

I figured that with UP still to play + Mr Morris finally appearing + the queuing to get the book signed it'd be over 4 hours in that tiny hot basement which is fine, but this is a New Order forum and I am a New Order fan. So 9 minute long tracks from the Velvet Underground are not for me. Fair play to anyone who stayed though and is primarily a JD fan - I respect that period, but my mistake. I didn't realise what the content would be Morris free for so long and it wasn't for me.

Gutted I didn't get the book signed or to meet the legends (or even see them) :-)

Guess I'll be back when Volume 2 is released next year instead.

I was at the front too and you were right about those pricks. A contributing factor to my early exit.

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Three quarters way through the book now.Such a difference between it and say Barney's book is the detail.Barney's book was vague in places and skipped and breezed through a lot.Steve's detailing of recording sessions and musical equipment/recording techniques/studio stuff is in stark contrast to Barney's book.Some of it can be a bit heavy going at times but you can always rely on Steve to lighten and relieve things with a cracking bit of humour.

Slime! Haha, i remember that slime in a jar stuff from the late 70s.The joke shop stuff that Steve writes about trying to get into Wilson's pocket at the battle of the bands thing; i remember that slime stuff.And Steve's account of other staples of late 70s life- Space Invaders etc

And who knew it's him twinkling the piano towards the end of Transmission (though you have to listen hard)?

Steve was quite the precocious teenager eh? Expelled form school.

I guess one of my strongest memories of Joy Division was buying Unknown Pleasures on cassette ( only had a "ghetto blaster" in those days) in the balmy hot summer of 1984 and being totally blown away by it.The drums, wow.Listening to the album late at night those summer nights and finally drifting off to sleep to the sound of those lift shafts and breaking glass on last track I Remember Nothing.

Oh and Gillian in the photo at the opening page of the How I Met Your Mother chapter; wow.Moody and beautiful.

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I’m not as far through the book as you, but I’m absolutely loving it. I’ve only just got to the Warsaw era.

Steve has a lovely relaxed style of writing and, as expected, is full of his wit and humour. Although I enjoyed Hooky’s books, I found his grammar and writing style a little awkward in places. Like he was writing as he speaks. Not so with Steve’s, which flows really well.

One of the many things I like so far about the book is the way that he peppers the text with photos to support his statements. Like the notice in ‘Shy Talk’ fanzine about Warsaw wanting a drummer or the cover of the Rudolph Hess book that Barney was reading that instigated that (in)famous line. Interesting to note that that line (which came back to haunt them many times) only came about due to the fact that there were three microphones of stage, ready for the next band on the list.

As a self-confessed Uber-geek Of JD/NO, this sort of stuff is wonderful. But geekiness aside, it also helps to break down the text, literally illustrates Steve’s points and helps us connect with the author.

Loving it so far. Back to the reading...

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Finished the book. Really enjoyed it. Looking forward to volume 2 next year and Steve covering the New Order years. Though he covers the start of New Order and the September 1980 trip to New York in the last chapter of this one. Thought it’d made more sense to leave that til his New Order book? Either he’s going to repeat himself at the start of volume 2 or he’s going to start after the New York trip?

Interesting that The Doors’ ‘The End’ randomly came into his head just hours before he learnt the news about Ian Curtis. Debbie Curtis had dreamt about listening to the same song earlier that morning . A strange coincidence that Steve acknowledges and mentions in the section.

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Oh and the synthesisers or one of them on Atmosphere were bought from Woolworths??? A Bakelite synth?

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This is far too Trainspottery for me. The doctor says I only have 35 years to live.

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Steve was on BBC Radio 4 A Good Read with Harriet Gilbert (no relation) yesterday, much to my surprise. He chose one book and commented on the two Harriet and guest Pippa Evans chose.

Books were:

  1. The Shepherd's Hut by Tim Winton
  2. This Is Memorial Device by David Keenan
  3. The Story of Lucy Gault by William Trevor

Whose chose what? - you decide.

Actually, he did very well, Michael (only mentioned the book once), strung a couple of sentences together and turns out to have read the only Tim Winton novel I have read: Dirt Music. Top man.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m0005mkl

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Pretty great interview. Thanks for the link.

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John Lennon to Ian Curtis: I know you're depressed, but nothing to get hung about.

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