YouTube Vids (and similar)

I've just got around to uploading some of my rarer New Order / Factory clips to YouTube and thought I'd share.

I've never seen these online before, so there's a reasonable chance that you lot 'might' not have seen them.

I transferred these from my VHS tapes a couple of years ago. The tapes had degraded somewhat so some of the recordings are pretty shoddy, but they're still very watchable.

I may post some more, if I spot some other rare clips (and providing the clips mentioned above aren't pulled down for copyright reasons).

Here's my channel:

https://www.youtube.com/user/perspexorange

Hope somebody finds something relatively interesting there.

PS As I've said above, some of my tapes were quite badly degraded. If any of you guys have anything rare on tape, I'd advise you to get these transferred asap before they get any worse and share the love. I transferred mine using this gadget. It wasn't perfect, but it did the job (there's probably better / newer models available now):

https://www.amazon.co.uk/ClimaxDigital-VCAP800-Camcorder-Windows-Copy-Internet/dp/B002Y4GTVO/ref=sr\_1\_1?keywords=ClimaxDigital+VCAP800+VHS+%26+Camcorder+USB+Video+Capture+Kit&qid=1575635289&s=electronics&sr=1-1

I subscribed.

My favourite clip is Paris '87 one. You might consider putting True Faith in the description/title for more "views".

Seeing it takes me back to my first New Order gig a few months before it (although my memories are in colour). I doubt I'm not the only one that would like them to revert back to this arrangement as the Perfecto one is getting long in the tooth.

Bonus: There's a great bit of Barney dancing after he loses the guitar towards the end.

Thanks, Andy I really appreciate it. 😊

Feel the need to try and dig out some other gems now.

I know Revenge isn’t everyone’s cup of tea, but those two interviews have got to be rarer than rocking horse poo. 😁

That ‘87 Sky Channel interview with Hooky and Steve has got to be fairly uncommon too.

Andy wrote: My favourite clip is Paris '87 one. You might consider putting True Faith in the description/title for more "views".

Seeing it takes me back to my first New Order gig a few months before it (although my memories are in colour). I doubt I'm not the only one that would like them to revert back to this arrangement as the Perfecto one is getting long in the tooth.

Bonus: There's a great bit of Barney dancing after he loses the guitar towards the end.

I think you’re right - I’ll change the description. Still not used to this YouTube malarkey.

Count me in as somebody who’s cheesed off with the Perfecto mix of True Faith. I’d love them to revert back to the classic sound.

Talking of which, although I liked the Hague mix of TF (it’s what got me into the band), I much prefer the live versions from that period. Steve’s live drums are what makes that song. Just superb.

The version of True Faith as played live '87-'93 really does sound immense, doesn't it? I miss a lot of little keyboard details that aren't in the Perfecto mix.

Awesome! The ET clip is too funny, with Leeza Gibbons somehow saying Jethro Tull made New Order possible. Huh?

LostSiren wrote: Awesome! The ET clip is too funny, with Leeza Gibbons somehow saying Jethro Tull made New Order possible. Huh?

Yep. Bizarre!

Bernard is strangely prophetic in that clip, with 'alternative' music definitely becoming the mainstream a year or so later (think the whole Britpop era).

Some rare clips there, P.Thanks for sharing.Had never seen those.

Be wary of uploading to YouTube, there's a high chance others will rip your upload and re upload it on their own channel and claim it as a rare find they've uncovered themselves.Or a particular Viking that posts the YouTube link on their Twitter without acknowledging the original source and take the credit for your work.Call me cynical but be careful - there's some real lazy bastards out there, eager to take credit and acclaim for others work.

Fotzepolitic wrote: Some rare clips there, P.Thanks for sharing.Had never seen those.

Be wary of uploading to YouTube, there's a high chance others will rip your upload and re upload it on their own channel and claim it as a rare find they've uncovered themselves.Or a particular Viking that posts the YouTube link on their Twitter without acknowledging the original source and take the credit for your work.Call me cynical but be careful - there's some real lazy bastards out there, eager to take credit and acclaim for others work.

That’d be a bit annoying. To be honest, though, I mainly posted just so that others could get to see them.

Still, it would be nice to have a little bit of love on the channel I have seen a couple of people post the lyrics to Gillian’s bit on Doubts Even Here on Facebook (or similar). I know I’m possibly not the first person to work out exactly what they were, but considering nowhere on the internet had them before I posted my video, it seems likely they’d viewed my vid. Would’ve been nice for those people to link to the video itself. (Especially considering, with my rubbish editing skills, how much effort it took for me to sync the lyrics).

Still, I don’t really mind. As long as somebody found it interesting.

I still kind of want to do another ‘project’ like that one or the ‘Don’t Do It’ / ‘Murder’ samples videos. So, if anyone has a good suggestion, just let me know.

Thanks for this. 😀 Title changed.

I’ve uploaded a few more videos today and have a few more from my old VHS tapes that I’ll upload over the next few days. I’ve had to edit a few to remove any promo videos as they continually get automatically blocked. If anyone actually wants the full clips, just PM me. Same goes for anyone who wants anything specific that I’ve not already posted. I have a tonne of clips and am happy to share.

Would be great for others to post stuff here too. I’m always on the lookout for ‘new’ stuff and suspect that we’ve all got little gems tucked away on either old tapes or hard-drives.

Just posted a few more videos:

1 x 15 minute interview with the band from MTV's 'Post-Modern' programme from May / June 1993; 2 x 3 minute Electronic interviews; 1 x Revenge performance of '& Reasons on German TV; 1 x short clip of Hooky and others (Gloria Estefan, Luthor Vandross etc.) commenting on Michael Jackson. *

* I think this was round about the time that the Jordan Chandler allegations about MJ first came out (August 1993).

Enjoy!

OK. I've just posted a few more:

2 x Electronic interviews (one very brief) 2 x The Other Two interviews 1 x Barney interview (again, very brief) 1 x regional programme (Close Up North) which features an interview with Tony and a chat with Hooky and Rob over breakfast (!) 1 x end credits to a TV series that featured music by Revenge (actually Monaco, before the name change) 1 x real oddity - a news article about New Order being online with CompuServe (!) in June 1994.

That's about it for the "rare" clips that I have transferred from my personal video tape collection. The rest of the stuff I have is stuff I've either got off others or I've downloaded from YouTube etc. (so you've possibly seen all these before). So, I probably won't be posting anything else for a little while (unless I can think of anything that might be of interest).

I hope you guys at least found some of these vids interesting.

Best,

C

Thanks, p.

Had a browse through a selection of some of your latest uploads.

I remember now that tv show The Big Trip.Kind of a show about young people backpacking i recall.I guess it was late 90s when i used to watch it and i remember thinking oh that music must be Revenge or something.I didn't buy Monaco's Music For Pleasure til about 2000! So didn't know the track Junk before then but recognised it as being the one i'd heard on The Trip or an updated version of it.

Liked the Other Two interview clips on the set of recording the Selfish video.Was that Hammersmith Apollo it was recorded at? I heard Hammersmith mentioned.Steve looking funny , and possibly a bit hot and bothered, in his gorilla suit and Gillian looking beautiful.She mentions in this clip again like she did in another clip that the song is partly adressed to a certain person and that person knows who she is but we never find out who of course!

Is that presenter on the Compu Serve clip Lisa I'Anson ? (90s Radio 1 DJ) Yep an odd little item.

I vaguely remember seeing some of those MTV clips (like the Other Two Selfish vid interview one)around 1993 but didn't record them.I think i even saw that Barney one where he talks about what the lyrics to Regret are about around the time of Reading 93 but of course that was probably a repeat from April 93 as MTV were always repeating stuff.Interesting to hear Barney explain what the Regret lyrics are about, wanting to get back to a "normal" life after years in a "rock" band etc.

That's weird. Somehow i posted that under an old login that i lost the password to ages ago.When i logged in i thought it said it was under my current username.Dunno what happened there.

EDIT: it's done it again.It says i'm logged in as Fotzepolitic but the post says my username is my old one, The Singing Detective.I seem unable to change it to Fotzepolitic.Oh well nevermind.

Fotzepolitic wrote: Thanks, p.

Had a browse through a selection of some of your latest uploads.

I remember now that tv show The Big Trip.Kind of a show about young people backpacking i recall.I guess it was late 90s when i used to watch it and i remember thinking oh that music must be Revenge or something.I didn't buy Monaco's Music For Pleasure til about 2000! So didn't know the track Junk before then but recognised it as being the one i'd heard on The Trip or an updated version of it.

Liked the Other Two interview clips on the set of recording the Selfish video.Was that Hammersmith Apollo it was recorded at? I heard Hammersmith mentioned.Steve looking funny , and possibly a bit hot and bothered, in his gorilla suit and Gillian looking beautiful.She mentions in this clip again like she did in another clip that the song is partly adressed to a certain person and that person knows who she is but we never find out who of course!

Is that presenter on the Compu Serve clip Lisa I'Anson ? (90s Radio 1 DJ) Yep an odd little item.

I vaguely remember seeing some of those MTV clips (like the Other Two Selfish vid interview one)around 1993 but didn't record them.I think i even saw that Barney one where he talks about what the lyrics to Regret are about around the time of Reading 93 but of course that was probably a repeat from April 93 as MTV were always repeating stuff.Interesting to hear Barney explain what the Regret lyrics are about, wanting to get back to a "normal" life after years in a "rock" band etc.

Thanks for the positive comments, Fotzepolitic (or Singing Detective ;-) !)

Yep, The Big Trip was about young, hipster types back-packing around the world, probably all paid for the BBC (I'm such a cynic!).

I seem to think that, when the Monaco LP came out, I recognised 'Junk' but couldn't place exactly where I'd heard it. It was only in later years that I realised where.

MTV did really reuse and reuse their clips, didn't they? The interviews that the band gave in Rome around the release of 'Regret' seemed to appear on every New Order related item for a year or so. One thing that used to annoy me about those clips they used was the fact that they used to use different ones in each 'news bulletin'. You'd end up seeing one clip at lunch time and you'd get your VHS ready for the tea-time bulletin to record it and you'd get a completely different clip (or, even more annoying, nothing at all). The collector in me got mildly vexed that I was 'missing' clips.

This is what makes me think there are tonnes of clips out there that we haven't seen; all the various MTV news bulletins.

Yep, Steve does look a trifle uncomfortable in his gorilla suit. And you're right, Gillian does look lovely. It's funny, at the time, the short hair didn't do too much for me (as Ms Gilbert's biggest admirer) but, in hindsight, I think it kind of suited her. I can't remember where the video was shot, but Hammersmith Apollo seems possible (and familiar).

Yep. That's Lisa I'Anson. She was a familiar face on MTV Europe around then. We got Sky late 1992 / early 1993 and I seemed to spend a lot of time taping New Order clips from MTV in 1993. Although, there was a lot of repetition in shows, I rather liked MTV Europe back in the day. Shows like 120 Minutes & Post-Modern were great and I discovered a few bands watching them.

I didn't have a computer in 1993, so have no real idea what CompuServe looked like. I'm guessing it was some sort of photo-internet thingie.

Fotzepolitic wrote: That's weird. Somehow i posted that under an old login that i lost the password to ages ago.When i logged in i thought it said it was under my current username.Dunno what happened there.

EDIT: it's done it again.It says i'm logged in as Fotzepolitic but the post says my username is my old one, The Singing Detective.I seem unable to change it to Fotzepolitic.Oh well nevermind.

Weirdly, when I quoted you above, it's put your correct name.

Just watched the Post Modern interview.

Did anyone get the vibe that Steve was annoyed with Bernard the whole time? Especially the slight about "the 2 Brats." Gillian didn't say much and Hooky didn't seem irritable or anything.

Wax wrote: Just watched the Post Modern interview.

Did anyone get the vibe that Steve was annoyed with Bernard the whole time? Especially the slight about "the 2 Brats." Gillian didn't say much and Hooky didn't seem irritable or anything.

I just watched it. Not sure that Steve was pissed off with Bernard the whole time but maybe that bit when Bernard tells him he’s wrong after Steve says about there being two places called Seattle. I didn’t follow that or what the joke was and can’t make out what Bernard says . I couldn’t make out what is being said apart from Steve saying there’s 2 Seattle’s . I guess it’s some joke as there’s only 1 Seattle as far as I know but I’m happy to be told otherwise.

The “2 brats” thing was actually “ 2 Bretts” . They were talking about Brett Anderson of Suede. It was a joke about if they found another Brett they could form a band called the 2 Bretts. Bernard had pointed out there’s a Bernard in suede , think Steve says they could form a band called the 2 Bernards.

Fotzepolitic wrote:

I just watched it. Not sure that Steve was pissed off with Bernard the whole time but maybe that bit when Bernard tells him he’s wrong after Steve says about there being two places called Seattle. I didn’t follow that or what the joke was and can’t make out what Bernard says . I couldn’t make out what is being said apart from Steve saying there’s 2 Seattle’s . I guess it’s some joke as there’s only 1 Seattle as far as I know but I’m happy to be told otherwise.

There are two Washingtons: State and DC Seattle is in Washington State. I'm guessing that's the joke.

It's been a few years since I've seen all this stuff. Mad really - I transferred it all a couple of years ago, but didn't get around to watching it all.

Having said that I probably wouldn't be uploading any more stuff for a while, I've just added a new one.

It's a segment from the 'New Order Sunday' event that MTV Europe had on 16/05/93. Basically, this event was split into three segments, IIRC:

1. An hour's worth of NO vids (inc. adverts);
2. 'New Order: Past, Present & Future' - a set of interviews and brief video clips, all either taken from the Rome 1993 MTV interviews or from the same time as the 'Post-Modern' interview I posted earlier.
3. A couple of hours worth of New Order hosting MTV, where they pick their favourite videos (both by them and by other bands). Again, this was obviously filmed at the same time as the 'Post-Modern' interview.

I'd quite like to upload the 'Past, Present & Future' interview, but there's so many clips of videos, that it would take ages editing these bits out to get past the censors (i.e. interview, bit of 'Regret' video, another bit of interview, bit more of the 'Regret' video, another interview, yet another 'Regret' clip etc.). So it'd be a nightmare to edit.

Oh dear, I remember that day. Had just gotten MTV a couple of months before. Sat in my room watching throughout the day although most of the shows didn't feature New Order. Things I would do for them back then. Usually there were band-themed weekends, so it was a bit disappointing they only got a day.

I thought they were badly hung over during the hosting. Still remember the bit when they were picking their fave songs and Bernard picks Grandmaster Flash's The Message and Steve asks him what the message is and Bernard says something like "the message is brush your teeth cause your breath smells vodka". Also Hooky picked David Lee Roth and Barney wouldn't watch the video as he claimed it was sexist. Always wondered why Hooky never formed a proper metal band after New Order.

The documentary was quite disappointing, very little not seen before in various news/120 minutes segments, and nothing I haven't known before generally.

They also played the 120 Minutes Factory special, although they mentioned it was filmed before Factory went bankrupt.

Jul wrote: They also played the 120 Minutes Factory special, although they mentioned it was filmed before Factory went bankrupt.

Yep _ i think you're right. I'd forgotten that that was shown. Looking at my tapes, I have that documentary directly after the third part of the day (i.e. the 'hosting' segment). I think I forgot about it when indexing my hard-drive as I have that documentary labelled with the date it was first shown (26/01/92 or thereabouts).

It's funny you should mention that 'filmed before Factory went bankrupt' caution before the documentary. They actually said that before the 'Past, Present & Future' documentary, according to my tapes (Rebecca de Ruvo introduces it). This makes absolutely no sense, as the 'documentary' is purely made up of interviews (i.e. no narration / presentation) and these are clearly taken from the Spring 1993 interviews in Rome and the MTV Europe studio. Therefore, there's no real reason for anyone to refer to Factory as still alive. I haven't watched it in a while but I can't see how the band would've referred to Factory as anything but well and truly 'over'.

I can't say whether the 'Factory' documentary also had this 'introductory caution' as my copy is missing the intro (but that's certainly possible). However, it seems possible that they 'messed up' and issued the warning in front of the 'PP&F' doc (made in 1993, after the 'Factory' bankruptcy) instead of the 'Factory' documentary (made in 1992, before the bankruptcy).

Funny - I remember it as before the special (can never be 100% sure as it was eons ago) but I don't remember Post Modern the show at all. Just 120 mins and later Alternative Nation (was it on VH1?). I had MTV Europe.

Jul wrote: Funny - I remember it as before the special (can never be 100% sure as it was eons ago) but I don't remember Post Modern the show at all. Just 120 mins and later Alternative Nation (was it on VH1?). I had MTV Europe.

It was definitely on before the 'Past Present & Future' documentary, but, yeah, it was possibly on before the 'Factory' special too. I only have the intro for 'PP&F' though and that goes:

'And now a special on New Order, "Past, Present & Future", but please note that this programme was made before the demise of Factory Records'.

I'm not sure how long 'Post-Modern' was on MTV Europe for, but don't think it was around for very long. I always remember it being presented by Pip Dann and I seem to think that '120 Minutes' was also on during the same period. So, it wasn't like it replaced '120 Minutes'.

If I recall correctly, it was a little less hardcore than '120 Minutes' or, especially, 'Alternative Nation'. Whilst you were likely to get Husker Du, Pixies and Nine Inch Nails on those programmes, you were more likely to get the 'pop' side of 'alternative' on 'Post-Modern'. Think New Order, Devo, Sparks or Talking Heads.

That's how I remember the programme anyway, but I may be completely wrong (it was 27 years ago, after all).

Wikipedia states:

"PostModern MTV was a nightly program in the late 1980s and very early 1990s on MTV, originally hosted by Kevin Seal and later by Dave Kendall featuring such pre-grunge "alternative" artists as The Cure, They Might Be Giants, Depeche Mode, Siouxsie and The Banshees, and Love and Rockets. The show was essentially a weeknight version of the Sunday night program 120 Minutes, with an emphasis on a more mainstream appeal.

After the departure of the original host, a reworked program entitled Alternative Nation was introduced, which followed a similar format and feel. The MTV Europe Edition of the PostModern show was hosted by Pip Dann in the 1990s.

So, yeah, kind of how I remember the programme. Seem to remember liking it in 1993. Although I was always an 'indie kid', back then I was definitely more into the 'mainstream' indie (New Order, Depeche, PSBs etc.) than the stuff I got into a bit later.

Just been viewing YouTube videos of the show. It's got me very nostalgic for MTV, as it was back then. I spent many an hour watching the channel. Whether it was keenly watching '120 Minutes', 'Post-Modern' or 'First Look' to discover cool new (to me) bands, or just generally 'dipping in' to see if there was anything decent to watch in amongst all the crappy Bon Jovi or Guns 'n' Roses videos that were inevitably featured.

Why can't we have channels like that anymore? I guess that's what YouTube's for, eh?

Anyone who loved the daftness of MTV Europe (like me) may appreciate this wonderful parody by the utterly brilliant satirist, Chris Morris (who plays every character in the clip). For anyone that doesn't know, this was from 'The Day Today', which was a spoof news programme that was broadcast in the mid-90s.

I honestly think that this is the funniest piece of TV I've ever seen (which possibly says something about my humour). Just to bring this back to NO related, it also contains a (rather tasteless) JD reference.

Here you go:

perspexorange wrote:

Anyone who loved the daftness of MTV Europe (like me) may appreciate this wonderful parody by the utterly brilliant satirist, Chris Morris (who plays every character in the clip). For anyone that doesn't know, this was from 'The Day Today', which was a spoof news programme that was broadcast in the mid-90s.

I honestly think that this is the funniest piece of TV I've ever seen (which possibly says something about my humour). Just to bring this back to NO related, it also contains a (rather tasteless) JD reference.

Here you go:

Ive got a bit lost with all this what New Order 120 Minutes Factory special/'filmed before Factory went bankrupt' or not/'Factory' documentary/ what was filmed/not filmed before/after Factory went bankrupt/ but just to agree yes, The Day Today and Chris Morris is in my opinion the funniest tv series ever (though Nathan Barley runs it close).And yes that also says a lot about my sense of humour too.I bought the DVD of The Day Today some years back.An absolutely essential purchase.

Pretty much anything done by Morris is magnificent: Brass Eye, Blue Jam, The Day Today. Even him announcing Jimmy Savile's death live on Radio 1 a full seventeen years before the twat actually shuffled off to Hell:

"NEWSREADER: The main stories so far: Jimmy Savile drops dead at the Stoke Mandeville Boxing Day bash—but the patients are far from mourning. CORRESPONDENT: The majority, if not all of them, are extremely relieved that he’s now dead, although I suspect that some of them will be sorry that he didn't suffer a great deal more. –Chris Morris Music Show, Boxing Day 1994

From all accounts, Sir Jimmy was most upset and it spoiled his Christmas. Shame.

Somehow the radio 1 series Blue Jam passed me by but the tv version on Channel 4, Jam was brilliant. In fact so good it was another essential DVD purchase. Chris Morris is superb. Well that word doesn’t really cover it but, you know

Odd and a bit frustrating, although I'm totally sure Post Modern existed I can't remember anything about it. Blank. And I can remember other shows - 3 from one, the news ones - and even ones I wasn't remotely interested in, Yo MTV raps and Soul of MTV and others. Haven't heard of Chris Morris before, will check him out. Seems interesting. On topic of 90s music programs, anyone remember Les Inrockuptibles show on MCM? I think it was sponsored by the french magazine of the same name. The channel was in French although it might have been based in Monte Carlo (MCM would have been for Monte Carlo Music). It also featured an interview with New Order during the Republic era in 93, should have most of it on video somewhere, the trouble is the tapes are not marked and I don't have a VHS player anymore! Barney was well dressed and not in baggy or jeans, also made jokes of Steve. Covered all the usual topics - Ian's death, Madchester, fall of Factory and the new album. Don't think I've seen it anywhere - but I haven't searched very diligently.

Hadn’t heard about that Inrockuptibles interview. Would love to see it if you ever find it.

BTW I’ve had a few ‘copyright’ claims on my channel, so am probably going to be removing most, if not all, of the videos later just so that I feel a little more at ease. If anyone comes to this thread late, just PM me and I can send you anything you’ve missed. I’m probably just being paranoid and can’t imagine Warners / MTV etc. coming after me for posting a few interviews (without music) that will probably never be shown again.

That sucks, I had subscribed. Will definitely let everyone know, I'd even pay for the transfer unfortunately my tapes mostly aren't marked!

I would encourage you not to overreact and pull everything down. There are literally millions of videos on YouTube for which a copyright claim could be made.

We had both Recycle and Extra Track (And A Tacky Badge) online for over a year and never received takedown notices. We live in a post-Napster age where it's expected media will be shared.

Thanks. That is reassuring.

I have been having second thoughts myself throughout the day.

I’ll leave stuff up for a while, but just so that people know that, if I do have a skittish moment, I may pull them down fairly quickly.

Oh I’m always getting copyright claims against my YouTube uploads. The videos just get removed , it’s not like you’re going to get a lawsuit filed against you!

Sometimes I get a copyright claim but oddly the video isn’t removed. Stranger still are the claims that come through only after a video had been up for years.

Thanks. Again, this definitely helps.

Unless you're making money off your videos. Don't worry too much.

I've had tons of copyright claims, and i've ignored every single one of them.

I could care less if they take them down. I'll just repost them again under a different account.

Oh, and by the way youtube sucks, vimeo or dailymotion all the way.

later -1

Hmm, where did JD/NO pics get this from?

[TWITTER]1208381668672839680[/TWITTER]

negative1 wrote: Unless you're making money off your videos. Don't worry too much. -1

Thanks. Appreciated.

Debaser wrote: Hmm, where did JD/NO pics get this from?

[TWITTER]1208381668672839680[/TWITTER]

Yeah, I wonder. Ah, it's no problem really. I'm just happy for people to get to see them.

Andy wrote: My favourite clip is Paris '87 one. You might consider putting True Faith in the description/title for more "views".

Seeing it takes me back to my first New Order gig a few months before it (although my memories are in colour). I doubt I'm not the only one that would like them to revert back to this arrangement as the Perfecto one is getting long in the tooth.

Bonus: There's a great bit of Barney dancing after he loses the guitar towards the end.

Has this Paris 87 True Faith disappeared from the YouTube page? Watched it a few days back and now can't see it there.

Yep - sorry, that was me pulling the video as that was one of the problematic ones.

I pulled the following for copyright reasons:

Rapido 12/87 (the one you mentioned above) XPO 04/93 (Rome interview; I'm currently re-editing that to see if I can put it back up). 'Murder' samples video 'Countdown' ('Blue Monday' alternate take #2)

There may have been another one, but I can't remember.

If you want to see any of the above, just drop me a PM with your email address and I'll send them over via WeTransfer (or similar).

The re-edit of the XPO interview is back up, if anyone didn't see it the first time.

World in Motion remastered in HD:

later -1

The entire taras svenchko show is up:

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLQevjdGcwa3n4Xc9wXyoO6v1yEXkSaq20

later -1

I wonder whether Taras Chavwanko was why they edited Reading for the first DVD. Shame cos I'd rather have had the complete Reading show than something I had on vid anyway. They erased whole songs and banter such as my personal favourite, Thanks, you've been a fucking brilliant audience. And we've been a fucking brilliant band... The interview was hardly essential either.

perspexorange wrote:

Jul wrote:

'And now a special on New Order, "Past, Present & Future", but please note that this programme was made before the demise of Factory Records'

For wot it's worth, the Past, Present and Future doc I saw was def Summer 1993. Around that time, the Barnster told NME, We've done three documentaries... This, Radio One's How Does It Feel and of course New Order Whorey.

I've just uploaded a new clip.

It's a blink-and-you'll-miss-it appearance by the Viking himself.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlfwJQSkSSI

Nothing Earth-shattering, but it was new to me. Thought it an interesting enough curiosity to upload. Thanks to my good friend, Glenn, for providing.

Just in case anyone was wondering if something went wrong with my upload. Nope - there's no sound from Hooky's bass. At least not in the clip I received.