Upcoming Closer 40th Anniversary & JD Singles Reissues
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M1 wrote: Anyone in Oz see a better option than Piccadilly? JB's prices are taking the piss
JB's prices for these are truly extortionate but this is more about the basket case that is Inertia/Warner AU than JB. Even buying them direct from Warner's AU store will set you back well over $200. There'll be some copies hitting smaller retailers but I wouldn't be surprised if they're asking for $50 a 12".
I'm not up with Piccadilly's AU shipping rates but to be honest you could do far worse than grabbing the bundle from the New Order store.
Cheaper again is the Warner EU store, with underquoted AU shipping prices here. Assuming they'll be back to regular shipping schedules come July.
M1 wrote: Anyone in Oz see a better option than Piccadilly? JB's prices are taking the piss
Oz pricing derived from what Warners themselves are charging, which generally speaking is a shit-tonne these days. I mean AU$50 for a 12" FFS... ![[nonono]](/emoticons/nonono2.gif){kind=small}
I typically go through one of the Indie stores here in Brisbane, like Sonic Sherpa or Rocking Horse; both of which have membership programs where u get 10/15% off and get that smug feeling for supporting an Indie store over a JB or similar...
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Peter Saville was on 6Music to day and talked a little about the small changes to the UP and Closer reissue sleeves 2 hours and 4 minutes in here
Thanks Fotz. I would've missed this.
A fascinating discussion. Great to hear his thoughts on the sleeve changes and whether he thinks they will work at this early stage.
Also very interesting to hear his thoughts on the four group members.
Thanks once again.
perspexorange wrote:
Also very interesting to hear his thoughts on the four group members.
Yes , think he said if he had to choose between the 4 of them which one he had to sit next to on a long flight he would choose Steve.
depthcharge wrote:
M1 wrote: Anyone in Oz see a better option than Piccadilly? JB's prices are taking the piss
JB's prices for these are truly extortionate but this is more about the basket case that is Inertia/Warner AU than JB. Even buying them direct from Warner's AU store will set you back well over $200. There'll be some copies hitting smaller retailers but I wouldn't be surprised if they're asking for $50 a 12".
I'm not up with Piccadilly's AU shipping rates but to be honest you could do far worse than grabbing the bundle from the New Order store.
Cheaper again is the Warner EU store, with underquoted AU shipping prices here. Assuming they'll be back to regular shipping schedules come July.
Piccadilly is about half of Warner and a third of JB. They remove the VAT, don't charge the GST and postage is better than most. If I don't get it locally, Piccadilly has been my go-to for some time
Fotz wrote:
perspexorange wrote:
Also very interesting to hear his thoughts on the four group members.
Yes , think he said if he had to choose between the 4 of them which one he had to sit next to on a long flight he would choose Steve.
I think I'd be reaching for the oxygen mask if I was sat next to Bass Thruster. "I used to be in a band" ARGH!
Maybe could have a conversation about yachts with Bernard although my yachting knowledge is limited.
I'd spend a year next to Spazzy Morris. Anything to keep The Other Two out of the studio. Apologies. He's their secret weapon!
M1 wrote: Piccadilly is about half of Warner and a third of JB. They remove the VAT, don't charge the GST and postage is better than most.
My basket comparisons pulled different results.
WarnerStore and Piccadilly approx the same landed. $2-3 dollars variation with currency movements. I don’t think either charge GST so there’s a risk at customs.
NewOrder Store about $18 more. Warner AU 50% more. JB double.
Local indie stores won’t be forced to deal with Warner AU so are likely to end up more than Piccadilly/WS, but less than JB.
TL;DR - Stick with Piccadilly if you’re only focussed on price!
perspexorange wrote: Oh, and yeah, the terrible remixing certainly started around then. However, I would bring it forward two singles.
Those Sly and Robbie remixes for RIAD were just the pits.
It’s funny, but at that point in New Order’s history, we had very little inkling about how bad the remixing was going to get (both in quality and quantity). ‘Regret’ wasn’t served with particularly good remixes (the New Order one and the Fire Island one being reasonable, but the rest being pretty poor), but we really had no idea that the shitstorm of terrible remixes was just around the corner.
I remember that, at the time, I really couldn’t believe that all the mixes on that second RIAD CD were so bad. In fact, I think I thought my CD was faulty, with the same remix being repeated throughout the disc.
to me, most of the music complete mixes were just as terrible and bad as those mixes.
i actually liked a lot of the techno versions of blue monday 95, and those on the rest of new order, because i liked the mixers, and their styles, and their takes on the songs, which sometimes didn't sound like the originals.
the problem with the tons or current remixes, is they are all very pre-programmed with very little thought or creativity. and half of them are dubs or instrumentals, which aren't that great. maybe it was because the source material songs weren't that good in the first place, sometimes a remix could save them.
i think the extended mixes were more than enough for those songs, without having to make 10 more of each one.
looking back, they might have seemed interesting or had promise at the time, but haven't aged well, haven't listened to them in years now. unlike those from earlier eras.
later -1
Feels like I've been here before http://forums.neworderonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=27773#post27773 I actually picked up the Complete Music double CD and gave up after Restless. Severely Razormade.
negative1 wrote:
liked the mixers, and their style
That's what I objected to. It was a ripoff cos they were using the NO banner to flog their own stuff.
I wonder if the closer Remaster will come with a download code? I don’t think unknown pleasures did last year. Failing that, I wonder if Amazon will have autorip for it. It would be nice to get a digital copy of the remaster.
I think you're right - I don't think the UP reissue came with a download code. Or, at least, it didn't come sealed in the vinyl that I purchased from my local HMV.
I guess it's possible that the New Order store (who I've ordered these records from) might send download emails with vinyl purchases, or maybe a code within the parcel.
It's a bit annoying really, isn't it? If they want us all to buy vinyl again (and the record labels have been pushing it like crazy the last few years), you'd think that they'd make it as enticing as possible, i.e. by including digital copies (preferably lossless). I guess they want us to all buy the vinyl (for the nostalgia, packaging, warmth of sound etc.) but they also want us to buy the digital formats as well (for the superior sound quality and ease of loading onto 'phones etc.).
Why give away something for nothing, when you can charge people twice for the same product? I'm starting to sound cynical. :-)
So what is the consensus on this remaster? It's the 2007 audio for the album and only the singles are newly remastered? Did the B-sides get the remaster treatment or only the A-sides?
BazG wrote: I've just got an email stating my bundle has been shipped and is arriving today.
Can I ask where you ordered yours from?
Mine was ordered from the New Order store. I haven't received notification from them yet though.
No download codes. Transmission has the embossed cut out on the rear of the cover.
I ordered mine from the New Order store. Arrived via Yodel.
Got the email from the New Order store around 6.30pm yesterday so you might get one this evening in anticipation of it arriving tomorrow.
I had some other New Order stuff in with mine I had been waiting on for ages.
BazG wrote: No download codes. Transmission has the embossed cut out on the rear of the cover.
I ordered mine from the New Order store. Arrived via Yodel.
Got the email from the New Order store around 6.30pm yesterday so you might get one this evening in anticipation of it arriving tomorrow.
I had some other New Order stuff in with mine I had been waiting on for ages.
Thanks. Fingers crossed for tomorrow, but no worries if not.
Shame there’s no download codes but not really a surprise, I guess, considering they didn’t with the NO 12”s.
It’s a bit annoying and I might end up buying lossless versions. Would’ve been nice to not have to pay twice for them.
Just had the email.
Looking at my order, it looks like I chose ‘standard shipping’. I’m guessing this means mine will be delivered by Royal Mail rather than Yodel etc.
perspexorange wrote: Just had the email.
Looking at my order, it looks like I chose ‘standard shipping’. I’m guessing this means mine will be delivered by Royal Mail rather than Yodel etc.
I spent over £50 and got free shipping so maybe that's why?
Hope yours turns up tomorrow for you.
Don't forget, Tim's twitter listening party for Closer this coming Saturday night 18th July 10pm where Hooky will be joining in
Thanks for the reminder, Fotz. It had slipped my mind. I don't think I'll be able to make it tonight, but will hopefully try to listen to it on 'catch up' here:
From The Guardian Fri 17 Jul 2020 09.50 BST
Joy Division: all of their songs, ranked! https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2020/jul/17/joy-division-all-of-their-songs-ranked
My vinyl set arrived yesterday. They are pretty functional reissues in terms of "this is it".
As expected there is no download code however they are available on the usual digital stores to purchase in a variety of formats. Assume they have also hit streaming services like Spotify.
It has been mentioned elsewhere in a previous reply but yes, Frank Arkwright is responsible for these new masters.
