perspexorange wrote:
GotBlueEyes wrote:
b) PC&L, Blue Monday and the giant leap forward the band made;
... Rising from the ashes of Joy Division. A bit like a Phoenix... Lucky Ash didn't have the same fate. After the bleak mid-90s, with the box sets and this they're finally getting the proper treatment. But feels like I've been here before. But like the sweet thief, takes all sorts. And yes, the quote fuckion's funking up.
Transmissions Podcast: The Definitive Story of Joy Division & New Order (Trailer)
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The quote function clearly doesn't like you Mr Monkhouse. 🤔
Well if Mr 🍊 can't convince you, maybe this little article can.
perspexorange wrote: Good spot.
Also, reading further down the page:
“The first series of eight episodes, or ‘Transmissions’, will cover the journey from Joy Division up until 1983’s Blue Monday.”
So there’s gonna be at least two series.
I thought it odd that they didn’t list Phil & Tom as interviewees. This explains it. They’ll probably get interviewed for a later series.
Ah OK, makes sense - at this pace it needs to be about 5 series
An entire episode devoted to the Hacienda?
This promises to be the least compelling one to date.
I've enjoyed the series overall though.
Cranelane wrote: An entire episode devoted to the Hacienda?
This promises to be the least compelling one to date.
I've enjoyed the series overall though.
another great episode, enjoyed it a lot.
cool little music interludes, and mixes in there too.
later -1
negative1 wrote:
another great episode, enjoyed it a lot.
cool little music interludes, and mixes in there too.
later -1
I listened in but apart from a few laughs here and there I can't say it was unmissable, it just seems a waste to devote an entire episode to the Hacienda with the promise of more to follow.
Episode 7 will cover Power, Corruption & Lies, back to the music.
lee wrote: Peter Saville bores me to tears
I thought his comments about Ian Curtis in episode 4 were odd.
Ultimately, it was Ian whose sacrifice was the capital that was then going to sustain factory for a decade. You know, Ian died and that precipitated this unprecedented sale of records....You can't put that in a marketing plan. You can't put that in a business model. it just happened.
I have quoted what Saville said, people can interpret his words for themselves.
Cranelane wrote: Ultimately, it was Ian whose sacrifice was the capital that was then going to sustain factory for a decade. You know, Ian died and that precipitated this unprecedented sale of records....You can't put that in a marketing plan. You can't put that in a business model. it just happened.
I mean, he's not wrong. He's just being matter-of-fact about it, which has always been Saville's way in an interview.
Ian died 40 years ago. Yes, it was sad, but I don't have this reverential "must never be talked about" attitude about it. Factory started cashing in a year later with Still, which in Wilson's own words was to head off the bootleggers.
The tragic death of a young pop star is not the kind of thing you can put in a business model, but it will generate cash.
Personally I didn't mind the Factory rehashes. Still was shoddy but at least it was bringing out material that was otherwise unavailable. And the two Substances earned their keep cos they were compiling tracks that had become hard to track down. The shameless cash-ins started with London and cuntributed to my lack of interest. Seriously though, did someone die? Better check this series out after all
Cranelane wrote: t just seems a waste to devote an entire episode to the Hacienda with the promise of more to follow.
Although I'm not massively interested in the Haçienda, it's still a huge part of the part's history and part of what makes their story so incredible. One episode out eight seems pretty fair, considering that the band, by opening the place, changed club culture and helped bring out Acid House.
Besides, this series will only take us up to 1983. With any luck, they'll commission a second series (or beyond) to cover the later years.
I enjoyed the Haç episode. Nice of them to interview people we don't usually hear from (Ben Kelly, and that DJ who's name escapes me).
perspexorange wrote:
Cranelane wrote: t just seems a waste to devote an entire episode to the Hacienda with the promise of more to follow.
Although I'm not massively interested in the Haçienda, it's still a huge part of the part's history and part of what makes their story so incredible. One episode out eight seems pretty fair, considering that the band, by opening the place, changed club culture and helped bring out Acid House.
Besides, this series will only take us up to 1983. With any luck, they'll commission a second series (or beyond) to cover the later years.
I enjoyed the Haç episode. Nice of them to interview people we don't usually hear from (Ben Kelly, and that DJ who's name escapes me).
DJ was Hewan Clarke
It was interesting, but I had a feeling throughout that it was more a part of the Factory Records story than that of Joy Division/New Order I get that it's integral to both, but there wasn't much input from the band members, or much about the music
Always curious when rent-a-hyperbolic-quote Nobo pops up on these things. Does he proffer his pearls of wisdom or do the doco makers seek them out? He obviously holds NO / JD in some esteem but I can't really imagine it working the other way.
M1 wrote: Always curious when rent-a-hyperbolic-quote Nobo pops up on these things. Does he proffer his pearls of wisdom or do the doco makers seek them out? He obviously holds NO / JD in some esteem but I can't really imagine it working the other way.
They have been known to mention U2 from time to time in interviews, whether or not they are fans is irrelevant really.
We heard some deep insights from Karen O on episode 7, I for one am grateful for that.
Good episode, I enjoyed the anecdote about the cover of Power, Corruption & Lies.
The thing I love most about these podcasts is that I can pretend that Barney, Hooky, Gillian, and Steve are all sitting together and chatting together.
Apparently the next episode will be the final one of the season. Feels like this will be a three-season show -- I can't imagine they could go through Lowlife to Music Complete in 8 episodes. I bet they'll conclude season 2 with Republic -- the last time our fab four played together, right? I hope they'll do an episode with all the side projects: Electronic, Revenge, The Other Two, and Monaco.
I know we've all heard this story before, but I have to tell you, it's just a joy to listen to their old music again. :)
It's been a fabulous series and I've enjoyed it thoroughly.
It's turning into a pretty definitive history of the band, with it (presumably) running to about 5 hours. It's about time that a decent documentary was made that covers both bands (Grant Gee's excellent documentary only covers the JD story).
My only slight niggle is that it's audio only. I would've liked to have seen the interviewees and, perhaps, some archive footage. But that is a minor quibble. It's been utterly brilliant.
enjoyed the finale.
a great way to end the series.
looking foreward to future ones.
later -1
Magnificent series.
Congrats / thanks to Bernard, Peter, Steve, Gillian, Maxine and all involved.
Eminently worthy of the stature of the band.
Excellent! Something to look forward to.
Also, has it really been 4 years since the last one?! Crikey. That depresses me.
Great news, can't wait - season 1 was awesome! Shame it's not Maxine Peake narrating again. Roll on August
Strange that Season 2 hasn't dropped was advertised as August, wonder if the Brotherhood Boxset was getting dropped at the same time but with all the Oasis news taking all the spotlight they've decided to push back.
S2E1 - Confusion has dropped
New Order, joined by Johnny Marr and Billy Corgan, recount act two of the band’s story. From a raucous miners’ benefit concert to signing for Quincy Jones’ label, hear how the band courted America’s electro club scene.