C'est bien triste, , mais je comprends ton point de vue.

Anybody knows if Fac33 is still running?

Thanks for everything, Nic. It's been a blast.All the best.

Can't deny I'm gutted but thank you for everything and in particular the notice. This has always been the best place to be a JD/NO fan. I loath FB, so no idea where I'll wander next...

I'll be sorry to see it go, but I understand. This has been in ideal forum for me because there's not too many people.

It’s been a great site to visit over the years so thanks for keeping it going for as long as you have.

It’s good to see it will carry on until the end of 2025 to hopefully give us chance to discuss the Technique box set, definitely a very anticipated box set set from (most) NO fans

This is sad news, indeed.

But completely understandable.

Thanks for providing this service for so many years. Much appreciated.

Hmm. Perhaps we ought to get some sort of celebration planned.

Maybe an online video chat or something. Just to say hello... and then goodbye . (I'd also possibly be up for a meeting in real life, if a few of us were up for it. Manchester would probably seem most appropriate, given the subject of this forum).

Anyway, it's a way off yet, so no need to think about things for a long while.

In terms of "the keys" - what is involved in hosting it?

I have a webhosting package that I pay for anyway - which I used to host an old (non-New Order) forum, but now is just static webpages of various stuff

Even if we stop using it, it seems a shame to lose the huge archive of discussion about the minutiae

Put simply - if I can rehost it then I will

Thanks Mr Spotnick, by far the best and probably only NO site I visit. I don't find FB useful and it's full of really odd people.

I've been hinting for a while and think it would be best all round if NO ceased trading the same time NOO.com does. Fair play to anyone that could keep it going (the forum, not the band)

Sad news, as this has been the main place to keep updated about the band and there’s a lovely lack of tossers on here. As someone else has posted, it would be fitting if the news of the Technique box set was shared here before the end, marking the end of the Factory albums.

yes, i will miss this place.

thanks for keeping it running all these years.

this is the best place for hardcore new order fans, and newer ones to get and share all the obscure information.

i know someone will archive it, it will be a great resource.

there's not much to say now for the last couple of years, now that the deluxe editions are pretty much done. and the tours have been pretty much repeats.

i'll check on reddit or somewhere else.... but it won't be the same.

thanks to all the great commenters here, and all the cool new order projects that came out of them.

i might not comment on everything, but i read most of it.

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Now, where am I going to meet my next wife...?

I think peak NOOL was around 2005-2006 and the WFTSC album era. There was a massive amount of people and activity on the board around then. It was almost impossible at times to keep up with the number of threads, debates, discussion, banter and indeed silliness.I remember the old Temptation forum from around 1999-2000 but then i kind of drifted away from it all for a few years. Then came back and joined in about 2004 the new forum which i think Nic had started up around September 2001(?) and Get Ready.

I always felt it was around 2007 when a lot of people started to move away from NOOL to things like Facebook, it was a slow decline of activity for many years after that.

Like neg1, i read most of the threads still but don't post on all, especially if i've nothing to add.

Maybe tapebias has a point and it's time the band also called it a day. But, if Bernard and all the others still love gigging and touring then good for them. Amazes me though how, trying to say this in a diplomatic way but probably failing, someone of Steve's age can still bash the drums for 1.1/2 hours at a gig.

It would indeed be good if the Technique definitive edition box was released before this forum closes down for good but who knows. Fingers crossed.

Nic - massive kudos to you for maintaining NOOL. It was the successor to the old Ceremony email list (which came out of rec.music.alternative Usenet), and as others have said has been THE place for the hardcore to discuss important things 😂

And you've all been critical input-providers to my book and earlier discography sites. Thank you.

If someone can pick it up for hosting - ace, otherwise I'll see you all on other platforms. Reddit is ok, but a lot of the chat on r/NewOrder is a bit lame. r/NOOL maybe? Most of the FB NO groups are lacklustre. Open to suggestions. A home for aging Vikings LOL!

You can all reach me on Insta via @listentoTranscom or X/Twitter via @trans_com, and probably elsewhere too but I'm personally most active there.

Dennis

Will be sorry to see this board go, but hoping someone can takeover ownership and move it to another server. All the other social media alternatives are lame and full of intrusive advertising. If I have to find an alternative platform, I'd want to go wherever Johnny James heads to, as in recent years I've found his insider information about all the re-releases fascinating!

Nic, thanks for all your efforts!

Going through some really old music files on my hard drive the other night i found this old 'Cozzie on Campbell' thing. An Irish guy Steve Campbell used to post on here a lot back in around mid 2000s. His posts were often many, many paragraphs long and usually the ramblings of a mad man, detailing his obsessions in tortuous detail of the merits of Linux over Windows and his ongoing medical problems with his testacles. Ugh.

'Cozzie' was a very young kid from Florida. Think her surname was Cozumel (?) or something. Her username changed frequently but she mostly went by the name Sunshine. She posted equally mad ramblings as Campbell.

They got into an gargantuan online to and fro argument on here about which i can't remember what . Various and numerous arguments. This was in the days when that kind of thing happened a lot on here. A lot if it got pretty heated and vicious.

Anyways, somehow Steve Campbell got hold of a 6 minute audio recording of this 'Sunshine' girl ranting on about Steve. He proceeded to make a track using the audio recording. It's kind of like a bad , dubby track The Orb might have knocked up and then discarded but with the Florida accented ramblings of this young woman stuck on over the top, with trippy echo effects added in for good measure.

Why am i telling you this? Dunno, i just re discovered the audio file ( Campbell put it up for download on here back in the day) and it reminded me of those old, often mad, days of the forum circa 2005-2006.

Anyone's interested in hearing it and remember these 2 posters Cambo and Sunshine from back then drop me a PM.

Edit: listening again, not sure it's so much of her going on about Cambo, seems to be more about her enthusing about Harvey Keitel and the Bad Lieutenant film. Maybe. Difficult to make out in places what with all the dubby echo.

Bad Lieutenant is an interesting coincidence!

Dennis Remmer wrote:

If someone can pick it up for hosting - ace, otherwise I'll see you all on other platforms. Reddit is ok, but a lot of the chat on r/NewOrder is a bit lame. r/NOOL maybe? Most of the FB NO groups are lacklustre. Open to suggestions. A home for aging Vikings LOL!

I've found reddit a bit rubbish, threads can spring up and vanish so quickly. Also its default sort order is very confusing when you want to go back and find that obscure thread.

Spotnick wrote:

I am willing to give the keys if anyone wants to keep it, just message me privately, but for me, I think it's time to move on.

How much space do the forums take (I assume php/mysql?). I do know of a few mega cheap ways to do hosting.I cant imagine cpu capacity would be an issue once some blocks to prevent bots go in place.

I logged on here after all these years just to say thank you Nic.

I still treasure the albums from the Community project, as well as many good memories of the time I spent on this forum exchanging information about the best band in the world, among other things.

It's the end of an era, but not of a passion. Let's move on.

Best Spider

Note of endless appreciation here as well, Nic. And to everyone on these forums. I have very rarely posted, but confess that checking these forums has been part of my daily internet routine for many, many years. This community will be greatly missed.

Like everyone else here it seems, NOOL has been part of my daily routine as long as I can remember, all the way back to the Community mail group, even if I haven't posted nearly enough in recent times. Eternally grateful to Nic and the input from everyone here over the years! I'm heartened that a few have indicated they might be able to re-host it somewhere...20 years ago I would have been all over that but I think it's beyond me now. Happy to contribute in other way$ though?

I've already said so privately, but I would also be prepared to hand over some ££ if anyone were able to take over hosting.

I DMed Spotnick and offered to take it on when he first announced it, but no reply. I guess because he's not planning to close it down til December, there is no urgent need yet

GotBlueEyes wrote: I DMed Spotnick and offered to take it on when he first announced it, but no reply. I guess because he's not planning to close it down til December, there is no urgent need yet

Fingers crossed! I mean, would be cool if the actual band kicked in a few clams too - could be wrong but I seem to remember NOOL even being listed in the credits of something official once...maybe the Singles comp?

Did anyone get a response from Nick?

I tried contacting him via a couple of methods, and no response

I'm hoping someone managed to get him and they have a plan for the forum - not long now until the end of the year cut-off

wow I spent so many years on this forum, I will really miss it when it goes.

so we are approaching december, did anything happen.

or are we counting down to goodbye..

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negative1 wrote: so we are approaching december, did anything happen.

or are we counting down to goodbye..

later || || | | n e gative 1

There are some folks on the New Order Reddit sub that recently expressed interest in helping out in different ways. Also a few not-so-positive comments about the current state of the band on there, so take it for what it's worth.

Subvulture wrote:

negative1 wrote: so we are approaching december, did anything happen.

or are we counting down to goodbye..

later || || | | n e gative 1

There are some folks on the New Order Reddit sub that recently expressed interest in helping out in different ways. Also a few not-so-positive comments about the current state of the band on there, so take it for what it's worth.

ok, a countdown then...

25 days to go...

then thats it... say your goodbyes..

see you on reddit i guess.

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I didn't know that the old discography wasn't an archive anymore and became a real URL again.

https://purple.niagara.edu/neworder/

Will be gutted to see this forum go, it's been part of my daily routine for years! The collective knowledge on here has always amazed me! I'm still hoping we'll get a stay of execution with the several offers to keep it going

negative1 wrote:

Subvulture wrote:

negative1 wrote: so we are approaching december, did anything happen.

or are we counting down to goodbye..

later || || | | n e gative 1

There are some folks on the New Order Reddit sub that recently expressed interest in helping out in different ways. Also a few not-so-positive comments about the current state of the band on there, so take it for what it's worth.

ok, a countdown then...

25 days to go...

then thats it... say your goodbyes..

see you on reddit i guess.

later || || || ne gative 1

Reddit isn't the best, theres a lot of fairly low effort posts on the new order sub reddit (Hookys favourite socks and that kind of thing..ok I made that up). And you really need to have some self discipline to keep out of the 1000s of other subreddits although there are settings to force your default view the sub Reddits you are subscribed to.

I've never used Reddit and have absolutely no idea how to. I do use the Steve Hoffman music forum where there's one or two ongoing JD/NO threads . The members who post on those threads do seem well informed and knowledgeable.

Fotz wrote: I've never used Reddit and have absolutely no idea how to. I do use the Steve Hoffman music forum where there's one or two ongoing JD/NO threads . The members who post on those threads do seem well informed and knowledgeable.

I'm happy to write up a guide so that it's only the new order subreddit you can see. I use it for other things job related so have lots of other ones visibl. Oh another thing, ai generated slop.Anyone browsing it the last few days will know what I am talking about.(New music announcement from Bernard was this week's nonsense)

prog99 wrote:

Fotz wrote: I've never used Reddit and have absolutely no idea how to. I do use the Steve Hoffman music forum where there's one or two ongoing JD/NO threads . The members who post on those threads do seem well informed and knowledgeable.

I'm happy to write up a guide so that it's only the new order subreddit you can see. I use it for other things job related so have lots of other ones visibl. Oh another thing, ai generated slop.Anyone browsing it the last few days will know what I am talking about.(New music announcement from Bernard was this week's nonsense)

I should clarify--the folks on the Reddit sub offered to help keep this site up and running.

You can read the comments here. The post was How Can We Save Neworderonline:

https://www.reddit.com/r/neworder/comments/1p3ui7z/how\_can\_we\_save\_neworderonline/

Subvulture wrote:

prog99 wrote:

Fotz wrote: I've never used Reddit and have absolutely no idea how to. I do use the Steve Hoffman music forum where there's one or two ongoing JD/NO threads . The members who post on those threads do seem well informed and knowledgeable.

I'm happy to write up a guide so that it's only the new order subreddit you can see. I use it for other things job related so have lots of other ones visibl. Oh another thing, ai generated slop.Anyone browsing it the last few days will know what I am talking about.(New music announcement from Bernard was this week's nonsense)

I should clarify--the folks on the Reddit sub offered to help keep this site up and running.

You can read the comments here. The post was How Can We Save Neworderonline:

https://www.reddit.com/r/neworder/comments/1p3ui7z/how\_can\_we\_save\_neworderonline/

I know

I never post but often check the forum. Would be a pity if it goes away. Reddit is not an alternative...

What's that line from Alien 3, "You've been in my life so long, I can't remember anything else." Will be very sad to see NOOL go - although I rarely post thanks everyone here (many from back on the old Ceremony mailing list) for being part of my daily routine.

we've reached the midpoint of the month.

another 2 weeks or so to go.

happy holidays, and best wishes to everyone here.

will miss all the information, and now we have to wait for official updates from their social media, i guess.

i liked having the inside track with johnnyjames, and others..

also, will miss all the details and version corrections from mr discography, and others.

take care everyone, was a pleasure discussing things here..

later | || || | || ne gative 1

Sad to see this coming to a close. I wish I could live in the summer of 1990 listening to Technique with life stretched out ahead of me, or in that period when Get Ready was coming out, I found this website and it seemed the band was primed for a run of great new albums. I appreciate everyone who ever answered a question, passed along a bootleg or just lent their enthusiasm to the discussions.

Sad to see this coming to a close. I wish I could live in the summer of 1990 listening to Technique with life stretched out ahead of me, or in that period when Get Ready was coming out, I found this website and it seemed the band was primed for a run of great new albums. I appreciate everyone who ever answered a question, passed along a bootleg or just lent their enthusiasm to the discussions.

What's the consensus if this forum can't be salvaged/preserved then? Where will regulars from here migrate to? Is there a Facebook group or Reddit alternative? Guessing not, as there'll be too many casual fans and bog standard casual comments, with less space for the sorts of specialised fan comments and questions we have on here.

Where will you go off to instead?

Mr Discography wrote: What's the consensus if this forum can't be salvaged/preserved then? Where will regulars from here migrate to? Is there a Facebook group or Reddit alternative? Guessing not, as there'll be too many casual fans and bog standard casual comments, with less space for the sorts of specialised fan comments and questions we have on here.

Where will you go off to instead?

While I don't want to diminsh the contribution of any one of the Dry 201 Message Pub patrons, I think it's worth pointing out that Johnny James is our only connection to an official source of information regarding the heritage releases. A lot rides on where he would be comfortable engaging with us.

Andy wrote:

Mr Discography wrote: What's the consensus if this forum can't be salvaged/preserved then? Where will regulars from here migrate to? Is there a Facebook group or Reddit alternative? Guessing not, as there'll be too many casual fans and bog standard casual comments, with less space for the sorts of specialised fan comments and questions we have on here.

Where will you go off to instead?

While I don't want to diminsh the contribution of any one of the Dry 201 Message Pub patrons, I think it's worth pointing out that Johnny James is our only connection to an official source of information regarding the heritage releases. A lot rides on where he would be comfortable engaging with us.

That's a good point. I've loved hearing about all the box set behind the scenes info. What are your plans Johnny?

Mr Discography wrote: What's the consensus if this forum can't be salvaged/preserved then? Where will regulars from here migrate to? Is there a Facebook group or Reddit alternative? Guessing not, as there'll be too many casual fans and bog standard casual comments, with less space for the sorts of specialised fan comments and questions we have on here.

Where will you go off to instead?

I'm not Johnny James (please see comments above, Mr Z) but I vote: Reddit.

Why? because Reddit is a 'specialist' kinda place where people go to discuss a particular subject (such as a band). Contrast that with Facebook where NO posts just become part of someone's casual FB feed. Also musicians -includng Peter Hook- have done AMA's (Ask Me Anything) on Reddit.

I don't really know where else is appropriate unless you do a Discord group, but the problem with Discord is that comments just kinda fly up the screen and get lost when new comments are made. It's fine for say, a listening party, but not so great for having subjects/threads that are easy to go back to, AFAIK. As for Telegram, i think that's way too private. (I'm happy to be corrected on these thoughts, I'm just spitballing here.)

Also I hold a grudge against Facebook for decimating this place! There are some very knowledgeable people in the NO FB groups (some people from here for e.g), but the general low level of the posts can be a bit tedious and repetitive too.

So, Reddit.

Debaser wrote:

Mr Discography wrote: What's the consensus if this forum can't be salvaged/preserved then? Where will regulars from here migrate to? Is there a Facebook group or Reddit alternative? Guessing not, as there'll be too many casual fans and bog standard casual comments, with less space for the sorts of specialised fan comments and questions we have on here.

Where will you go off to instead?

I'm not Johnny James (please see comments above, Mr Z) but I vote: Reddit.

Why? because Reddit is a 'specialist' kinda place where people go to discuss a particular subject (such as a band). Contrast that with Facebook where NO posts just become part of someone's casual FB feed. Also musicians -includng Peter Hook- have done AMA's (Ask Me Anything) on Reddit.

I don't really know where else is appropriate unless you do a Discord group, but the problem with Discord is that comments just kinda fly up the screen and get lost when new comments are made. It's fine for say, a listening party, but not so great for having subjects/threads that are easy to go back to, AFAIK. As for Telegram, i think that's way too private. (I'm happy to be corrected on these thoughts, I'm just spitballing here.)

Also I hold a grudge against Facebook for decimating this place! There are some very knowledgeable people in the NO FB groups (some people from here for e.g), but the general low level of the posts can be a bit tedious and repetitive too.

So, Reddit.

I find Reddit quite annoying, and I'd probably not visit very often. I'd say a general New Order thread on Steve Hoffman forums is more like what we are used to, in that it's forum-based and is moderated (and will be around for the foreseeable). I know a few of us are on there already

My preferences in order would be

1. this forum gets handed over to a new host (seems unlikely given the radio silence)
2. someone sets up a brand new forum to mirror this one and we start again
3. a general NO thread on Steve Hoffman
4. reddit
5. definitely not Facebook!

Subvulture wrote:

prog99 wrote:

Fotz wrote: I've never used Reddit and have absolutely no idea how to. I do use the Steve Hoffman music forum where there's one or two ongoing JD/NO threads . The members who post on those threads do seem well informed and knowledgeable.

I'm happy to write up a guide so that it's only the new order subreddit you can see. I use it for other things job related so have lots of other ones visibl. Oh another thing, ai generated slop.Anyone browsing it the last few days will know what I am talking about.(New music announcement from Bernard was this week's nonsense)

I should clarify--the folks on the Reddit sub offered to help keep this site up and running.

You can read the comments here. The post was How Can We Save Neworderonline:

https://www.reddit.com/r/neworder/comments/1p3ui7z/how\_can\_we\_save\_neworderonline/

Thanks but yes, there seems to be a few more than capable people on Reddit ( by what they said) keen to take over the running of this place and say they have tried to contact Nic but have had no response, sadly. Why hasn't Nic responded to them?

Well i actually vote Steve Hoffman forum. Been a member on there for a couple years now and as i said, there's some knowledgeable NO/JD folks on the NO/JD ongoing threads.

As it stands, it's nearly the end for this place. For since forever it's been a great place for disc4ussion, info and laffs. Best wishes to all.Thanks to Nic, Johnny James and all the old and current members .

made a wget archive of the forum.. about 30,000+ pages ..

i havent checked all the links, but the most recent posts works, images, and links should work..

file size is 21 MB zipped, expands to 2 Gigs.... all you have to do is drop the .html files into a browser. there is an index file, or try default.aspx@g=forum.html , any of those should work..

links that dont work, will point back to the web (until the site goes down).

Download link https://we.tl/t-tQadkVhRht

1 item forums-neworderonline-com.7z 20.8 MB

====================================

go ahead and check it out, took about 9 hours to download.

if you want, download wget for your OS (windows, mac, linux)...and then run:wget -r -c -p -k -E -e robots=off http://username:password@www.domain.com

after its done, it will then convert the files and links to use the local files.

merry christmas...and happy new year.

later || | || ne gative 1

Thanks for doing this -1!

negative1 wrote: made a wget archive of the forum.. about 30,000+ pages ..

i havent checked all the links, but the most recent posts works, images, and links should work..

---

file size is 21 MB zipped, expands to 2 Gigs.... all you have to do is drop the .html files into a browser. there is an index file, or try default.aspx@g=forum.html , any of those should work..

links that dont work, will point back to the web (until the site goes down).

Download link https://we.tl/t-tQadkVhRht

1 item forums-neworderonline-com.7z 20.8 MB

====================================

go ahead and check it out, took about 9 hours to download.

if you want, download wget for your OS (windows, mac, linux)...and then run:wget -r -c -p -k -E -e robots=off http://username:password@www.domain.com

after its done, it will then convert the files and links to use the local files.

merry christmas...and happy new year.

later || | || ne gative 1

I did something similar to make an offline mirror of the website, using HTTRACK. It took well over 24 hours and is about twice the size of your download, so maybe it included some additional stuff? But anyway, if and when the site goes down, I can host the mirror as a static online archive, then if someone wanted to start a new forum, at least the old forum is still visible to check previous discussions. I'm just conscious of how many times we see the phrase "I think that was discussed before..."

Again, thanks for this, GBE.

It's good that people are trying to preserve this useful resource.

Merry Christmas all - might be the last time we get to say that in this illustrious space

Thank God it's Chritmas

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dK0Hbhpihqc

Merry Christmas, happy new year, and most of all thank you to everyone who created this place and posted here. You made it such a wonderful community to visit!

It is over

Sage reporting in. I'll miss all of you, and this forum.

What a place this has been.

Thank you all.

Well, it was fun while it lasted - cheers and bye to all. CTB

Thanks everyone, its been a blast 🙂

I am grateful to Nic for this forum over the years. I didn't start posting until around '05 as I didn't have the internet - so I'd lurk whilst at work. Nonetheless that's 20+ years of NOOL for me and that's pretty good. I'm also a little bit sad that Nic hasn't responded to any PM's. But of course that's Nic's choice and I wish him well for the future. FWIW, I did manage to contact Nic on FB back in the spring to let him know that someone (not me) was showing an interest in "the keys", and he said he would respond to them. But I'm not aware of anything since.

We know that Bernard has talked about being ready to go and make more music and that he intimated that it was down to others that it hadn't started yet. If there is to be one more "oeuvre" from the mighty NO, it would be nice to still have the forum. Indeed it would be nice if someone from NO would chuck a few quid at the thing. They could easily afford to, i imagine.

Thanks for the memories NOOL.

Now then... A YouTuber put together an edit of the full length vocal mix of Here To Stay and the Extended instrumental from Retro Disc 3, and I think he did a good job. I always felt that the original full length wasn't as long or as complete as it could have been. The forum may not be here to stay, but the music of NO will always stay in my heart [*touches chest dramatically*]. Feel free to puke if you're a "football hooligan" fan, or shed a tear if you're a "spotty student" fan.

Thanks all. Despite little band activity, I was still checking in here daily.

I first found the New Order online community in 1997 with the Ceremony mailing list.

If anyone is looking for the Recycle files, you can download them here (plus a few other surprises). Most of my website is down at the moment while I restructure it. The three megamixes I did in 2006-2007 will be re-uploaded there.

Hoping for a miracle to keep things up and running as we look forward to the Technique and Joy Division boxes.

Jeb

And it’s goodnight from me too. Loved this forum which I discovered around Get Ready release 2001.

I was going to write a piece on how and why new order mean so much to me. That if I listed my 100 favourite records and was honest about it a good 30 of them at least would be new order and Joy division. Why since the formation of JD around 78 right through to the release of Technique in 89 NO were simply the best band of all time with an amazing set of albums and singles. Even after 89 they could still dazzle and delight with brilliance scattered across their subsequent catalogue right up to what looks like their final album MC. How some of my best nights were had at new order concerts, the majority of which were post the 1998 reformation. Why the original 4 members will always hold a special place in my heart and have significantly improved my life and help me laugh cry love and at times despair. Why I will be at the next Hooky gig and hopefully a new order gig next year. I would have loved the time to say more but it now seems the curtain on the site being drawn. Oh it’s the last time…..

50poundnote wrote: Thanks all. Despite little band activity, I was still checking in here daily.

I first found the New Order online community in 1997 with the Ceremony mailing list.

If anyone is looking for the Recycle files, you can download them here (plus a few other surprises). Most of my website is down at the moment while I restructure it. The three megamixes I did in 2006-2007 will be re-uploaded there.

Hoping for a miracle to keep things up and running as we look forward to the Technique and Joy Division boxes.

Jeb

Fingers still crossed here too. Hey, thanks for everything you've done over the years too - the Recycle project has definitely been one of the highlights of being part of this splendid community

if you want some places on steve hoffmans forums to post about, here are a few:

new order

favorite albums : https://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/your-favorite-joy-division-new-order-albums.1239099/page-4

definitive vinyl versions : https://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/definitive-new-order-vinyl-versions.1238746/

anything about joy division, new order : https://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/joy-division-new-order-albums.738006/page-150#post-38095445

new order atmos mixes : https://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/new-order-atmos-mixes-coming-from-steven-wilson.1209021/page-5#post-38074992

hope to see some of you over there.

happy new year to everyone, was a pleasure being here.

later || | || ne gative 1

Everybody, face up!

— AKA The Japanese One

Happy New Year everyone, all the best for 2026 !

See you all somewhere!

I’ve got a feeling we’re still in Kansas…

What year and month is it today?

MOBIL AVE

Thanks to everyone who has invested time, love, and indeed money to keep this gathering place going for so long. The enthusiasm and scholarship has been unmatched anywhere else.