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Weekly Song Review: Here To Stay

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In a shameful attempt to relaunch the Weekly Song Review and to do some activity around here, I will present a new contender, and advise you that I have created an archive forum for the song reviews from the past, so Major T, Benny, Shug & Jeff, you are moderators of that one, even if it will probably be quiet, but who knows :D

So, for those not familliar with this, you have to do your opinions on one song, plus answering a random question...

So here it is...

This week's review is.. Here To Stay

  1. the best bit
  2. the worst bit
  3. why you love/hate it
  4. a percentage rating
  5. What is your opinion on the Community project?

So here you go, it's up to you! answer any question you want!

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1 New Order getting back to business with a stormer of a dance track.

2 Nothing to dislike about the song, but I was never a big fan of the video.

3 Best memories of this song, was one of the early NewOrderOnline piss ups in Manchester, there were loads of us, and the Muffmeister brought us all a copy of the single 2 weeks before it was released. Liv and Kezzie got one of the Dj's in a pub round the corner from where the Hac used to be, to play the track, and the sight of several Onliners doing the "Barney" dance was a joy to behold. This was also the song that christened the flat where myself and my two cousins still stay.

4 90%

5 Where's my free copy?

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ok the video didn't mean anything but style of it is great. its all i could do to stop myself buying a 16mm film camera and a bucket load of monchrome film :)

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  1. Best bit - bass sequencer kicks ass !
  2. Worst bit - crap video and not played live
  3. Love/hate - a statement of intent from the boys, great track
  4. Percentage - 85%
  5. Community ? - a great idea, and one in which I have enjoyed participating.

Where's this archive forum based then ? It isn't showing up on the forum menu list.

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  1. New Order is still making music, and the first minute of the song

  2. Chorus that gets annoying very soon

  3. Other than the chorus, every part of the song is perfect :thumb:

  4. 85%

  5. Community? What is this Community thing I keep on hearing about??? :evil4:

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Great track,it's on my top 10, 87,25% :thumb:

Community :scratch:

Ah ! Now I got it :evil4:

Maybe you will hear my crap version for Temptation someday.I was more a joke than a cover anyway :evil4:

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Originally posted by Reginald Bumswizle 1. Best bit - bass sequencer kicks ass !2. Worst bit - crap video and not played live3. Love/hate - a statement of intent from the boys, great track4. Percentage - 85%5. Community ? - a great idea, and one in which I have enjoyed participating.Where's this archive forum based then ? It isn't showing up on the forum menu list.

check under in the forum index, it's the forum at the bottom of the list

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1.) The opening part sends chills down my spine

2.) It gets old after a few listenings in a row

3.) It's New Order doing what they do best

4.) 85%

5.) Can't wait for the release :thumb:

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Originally posted by Reginald Bumswizle 1. Best bit - bass sequencer kicks ass !2. Worst bit - crap video and not played live3. Love/hate - a statement of intent from the boys, great track4. Percentage - 85%5. Community ? - a great idea, and one in which I have enjoyed participating.Where's this archive forum based then ? It isn't showing up on the forum menu list.

I didn't put it yet in the menu... go to the forum index!

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One of my favourite new tracks, highly underrated I think

  1. the best bit - as soon as barney's guitar kicks in
  2. the worst bit - when it ends
  3. why you LOVE it - superb dance track! Nearly 20 years after perfect kiss, blue monday and bizarre love triangle they've still got it and are still at the top of their game!
  4. a percentage rating - 98%
  5. What is your opinion on the Community project? - I think it's great, perfect way to keep the fan site cooking. :thumb::thumb::thumb:
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  1. Best bit: The intro - when you hear it you just know the song's going to be good
  2. Worst bit: The end
  3. Why I love it: Statement of intent. Here To Stay? I hope they are!
  4. Percentage rating: 89%
  5. Opinion on the Community project: A cool way for the more musically-inclined fans out there to show their appreciation for Manchester's finest. Still think Digital Republic would've been a better name, though.
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  1. The actual 'Here To Stay' vocal line at the end.
  2. The intro - think it sounds dated.
  3. I played this one to death when it arrived, but don't bother with it at all now. Usually it's the other way round with New Order - learning to love something given time. But with this one I loved it immediately, then the attraction waned somewhat.
  4. 40%
  5. I can't say I'm fussed with projects like this but I have sat down and listened to just about everything that's on offer. Well impressed by the unique takes on tracks that some people have done, like the dance versions of Disorder and Face Up.
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  1. The haunting "Here To Stay" chorus.

  2. The video.

  3. I really like the Chemicals production. Plus, it's nice to know that New Order are still able to make a great dance track.

  4. 85%

  5. The tribute is something to keep us busy in this forum while New Order don't release a new album. I had loads of fun taking the promotional pictures (although it's not visible on my face) and recording the track. :)

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  1. Best bit - the last bit with the combination of the "Here to stay" vocal, the guitar and bass all together - combination of melodies
  2. Worst bit - lags a bit in the middle
  3. I liked it straight away and now I absolutely love it -it has the classic NO sound, it just sounds effortless and compared to all the other songs released around the same time it kicks arse.
  4. 94%
  5. Community - some awesome versions mixed in with some very average ones - to be expected I suppose. Just hope all my favourites get voted into the final 15. :)
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  1. the best bit

  2. the worst bit

  3. why you love/hate it

  4. a percentage rating

  5. What is your opinion on the Community project?

  6. Best- when the "here to stay" line comes in.

  7. worst- I like it the was it is

  8. Just as good as any of their dance classics

  9. 80

  10. COMMUNITY? I must say that I am pleased with the support and participation from all of you here at NOOL. When we first started this IDea, it looked vitually impossible to pull it off. it wasn't a tight competition as far as organization:rolleyes:, but i am please with the progress. And like some of you guys mentioned, it gives us something to look forward to while we wait for another NO release

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  1. the best bit: the video. i thought it was a great idea. also i love black&white images!

  2. the worst bit: i feel the song is good but weak. all the NO elements seem to be there but they don´t EXPLODE as on other tracks.

  3. why you love/hate it: i´m kinda inbetween. i didn´t listen to it that much even though i have the single. and i can´t hate it because there´s nothing to hate, really. i know they could do better, that´s all.

  4. a percentage rating: 50%, for what i said

  5. What is your opinion on the Community project? it´s excellent! :lol: seriously, i think we have many good songs. i think nobody will be disappointed with the tracklisting whatever it will be. and also, making a totally virtual album is a thing that (personally) i never heard before. it´s been hard work but surely a lot of fun too. and we still have the best part to go in the near future! :thumb:

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  1. Well, the lyrics, the opening, the video.
  2. The scum frog dub version of the song and the fact that they didn't "play" it on TOTP.
  3. The opening just grabs me and the first verse of the lyrics are haunting. The images in the video went well with the song, although half of the images were just scenes from 24HrPP.
  4. 95% - it's one of my top songs.
  5. Well, on the songs I've voted on, most sound good, although no one's covered HTS yet.
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  1. The best bit: Very catchy tune from the start, just like Al said, this is rare in a New Order track, but I loved it from the start. I loved the chorus and the "we're here to stay bit"..
  2. The worst bit: In my opinion, the full length version is too long, the radio edit is more powerful. And also, it's a shame this song wasn't on Get Ready, because its release made the band stopping to release singles from Get Ready after releasing 60 Miles An Hour, we all know they could have done good things with other tracks of this album, plus Here To Stay would have been the best opener there is for Get Ready, mixes well with the single version of Crystal.
  3. Why you love/hate it: I never tought New Order would do such a track at this stage of their career, but IMHO, this track has been underrated and should have got a lot more exposure, I still don't get why it didn't get any air play over here.. maybe the lack of promotion from the band.. who knows.
  4. a percentage rating: 85%
  5. What is your opinion on the Community project?: Quite simple, when I was proposed this project, my reaction was: :rolleyes:, yeah right, it will sound horrible with people making acapella version of songs with their computer mike.. but let's say I was pleasently surprised, and I have no doubt in my mind this will be the best tribute album from New Order once the selection will be done, because it's made by the fans for the fans.
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This week's review is.. Here To Stay

  1. the best bit - it's bouncy, perfect neworder
  2. the worst bit - it ends
  3. why you love/hate it - i love it because it's a fun and bouncy song and i can sing with it
  4. a percentage rating - 100%
  5. What is your opinion on the Community project? - haven't been able to participate very much but i hope it's successful...i can't wait to get it!
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but Nicos...I thought we already did HTS?!?!?!

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Right, I've updated the thread titles in this new forum so we can see which songs were done, and have also added some new ones for you to get your teeth into - Ceremony, Blue Monday, Crystal, 586 and Let's Go.

If you can't find the forum, go to the Forum Index link on the Forum tab and choose the Bottom One !

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love the intro hate(d) the cringe making totp performance similar to jarvo...i thrashed the knackers off this one when i first got it...now it is gathering dust!!!

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Originally posted by PAUL TROWELL love the introhate(d) the cringe making totp performancesimilar to jarvo...i thrashed the knackers off this one when i first got it...now it is gathering dust!!!

I haven't played it for nearly a year either !

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Hey what a great idea to bring back an OLDIE but GOODIE!:clap:I'll just give it a play tonight before answering.

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  1. Bass sequencer
  2. n/a
  3. The instrumental just rocks
  4. 85%
  5. Can't wait for the CD / T-Shirts
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  1. the best bit - Single not off the album. Upbeat and dancy with hidden pain. Near to a classic single.
  2. the worst bit - The mimed performance on TOTP, and it was the first time I was able to see them on TOTP on our telly !
  3. why you love/hate it - It's among the best work they've done of late. Not on par with the all time classics, but good.
  4. a percentage rating - 80 %
  5. What is your opinion on the Community project? - Wonderful to see so many people colaborating in such a troubled world. Again, lookin forward for the CD/ T-shirt.:thumb:
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Originally posted by Jeff White but Nicos...I thought we already did HTS?!?!?!

If you did, the little didn't have "weekly song review" in it.. because this is the found I found them all.

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  1. Catchy song and electronic in style from the old days.
  2. Hmm, the song might benefits with more lyrics.
  3. Loved it when I first heard it; didn't need to let it grow on me like a lot of the other songs off Get Ready. The chorus at the end, "We're here to stay" gives me hope that New Order are here to stay with more songs to do and release before they officially call it quits.
  4. 85%
  5. Excellent, and the people who contribute and make it happen (heh heh) should know we really appreciate your time and effort. Keep up the fine work, all of you! :thumb:
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thought I'd give it a listen again as it hasn't been played since I got my 6-track australian cd just because it had player in the league on it! It got too much play at the time and I got bored with it. Out of the 5 mixes on this one I prefer the original edit.

  1. I like the lyrics, simple but without embarassing lines (like some songs I could mention)
  2. the video
  3. it's cheerful and possesses a lot of the usual NO trademarks
  4. 70%
  5. Great idea, well organised, just a shame that your efforts should be marred by some disputes, one of which I unwittingly started myself and I profoundly apologise for that. I have enjoyed listening to all the tracks submitted and it'll be a gem when it finally sees the light of day.

well, cd finished. back in the drawer for another year ?!?

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What's so bad with the video?

At least THIS time, the actors are linked to the band!

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Originally posted by Spotnick What's so bad with the video?

I don't know...it's far better than the TOTP "performance" !

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Originally posted by Al Jarvis 1. The actual 'Here To Stay' vocal line at the end.2. The intro - think it sounds dated.3. I played this one to death when it arrived, but don't bother with it at all now. Usually it's the other way round with New Order - learning to love something given time. But with this one I loved it immediately, then the attraction waned somewhat.4. 40%5. I can't say I'm fussed with projects like this but I have sat down and listened to just about everything that's on offer. Well impressed by the unique takes on tracks that some people have done, like the dance versions of Disorder and Face Up.

I'm glad you liked Disorder. :)

  1. Best bit: It's the first real dance track New Order has done since Republic (not counting re-releases of other singles).
  2. Worst bit: I really don't see anything wrong with this track.
  3. Why I love/hate it: I love it because the drums remind me of their earliest stuff, the approach reminds me of their 80's dance style, and the rest remind me of their newest stuff. A perfect song (almost) getting the best parts of their entire career in 5 minutes.
  4. 97%
  5. Community is the best thing to happen to me. Not only did it finally get me to spill out my covers, it has inspired me to make more music as well, when before I never had a deadline, so I was never as enthused.

Funny thing actually, before any rules were set and we were just suggesting the tribute idea, I was going to cover Here To Stay. I probably still will. Anyways, thank you to our awesome webmasters for bringing this to a reality and allowing me to participate. :)

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Wonder why I wasn't able to see this thread yesterday.. weird!

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  1. one the their best singles, the "here to stay" chorus at the end
  2. none
  3. yes, one of their best singles indeed...better than anything on Get Ready...all good stuff
  4. 99%
  5. aside from "some slight problems," it's a great idea/opportunity and should turn out quite well!
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This week's review is.. Here To Stay

  1. the best bit
  2. the worst bit
  3. why you love/hate it
  4. a percentage rating
  5. What is your opinion on the Community project?

So here you go, it's up to you! answer any question you want! the vocal tryin to find it on the week before release wish I'd wrote it 100

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best bit the guitars and bass during the outro chorus worst bit - none love it, one of the best NO dance tracks, should have been on Get Ready as the opening track 100%

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1.The lyrics, the sound, practically everything 2.None 3.100% 4.I love the video, even though New Order themselves aren't in it. 5.?

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  1. the best bit 2. the worst bit 3. why you love/hate it 4. a percentage rating 5. What is your opinion on the Community project?

  2. NO show they can still do electronica.

  3. 'This open book, yet to be read. This second look, this reap of hair.':nono:

  4. 'We're here to stay.' A statement of defiance.

  5. 90%

  6. Love to hear it.

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Christopher Owens wrote: 2. 'This open book, yet to be read. This second look, this reap of hair.':nono:

I always heard the last bit as 'this leap ahead'

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It's a tremendous song. Am amazed that its not made it into a live set. Perhaps we could put in a request for Manc. v Cancer.

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Wasim wrote:

Christopher Owens wrote: 2. 'This open book, yet to be read. This second look, this reap of hair.':nono:

I always heard the last bit as 'this leap ahead'

You could be right, but I still cringe at the line.

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  1. the best bit
  2. the worst bit
  3. why you love/hate it
  4. a percentage rating
  5. What is your opinion on the Community project?

  1. the lyrics, made eerie by the video, for one. it's a darn glorious song.

  2. perhaps that I saw all the elements combine beautifully within this song, but I wanted to hear real drums to complete the sound.

  3. I love it because the moment I heard it, I began getting chills and bumps all over and actually was asked by my friend if I was alright. :laugh: I was struck by a NO trance. :laugh:

  4. 90%, could definitely be improved, IMO, with real drums.

    • this is a bit old as a question, project seems to have worked out quite well. ;)
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(1. the best bit 2. the worst bit 3. why you love/hate it 4. a percentage rating 5. What is your opinion on the Community project?)

  1. the synthesizer and bass sequencer. Nice video, but...(see # 2)
  2. John Simm does an obvious lipsync in the video. Plus, New Order must play this live. It will be appropriate it this would be the first song on their reunion gig.
  3. Its the kind of sound that I like/miss about the 80s New Order
  4. A-
  5. Will there be a Community 3?
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Interesting song ...

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  1. Their catchiest pop tune since Regret
  2. The lyrics are OK, but not great or anything
  3. As with most NO songs, I love the music iteself. Excellent synths here
  4. 97%
  5. what's a commmunity project? :scratch:
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7/10

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  1. The "Here To Stay" chorus, definitely.
  2. Hooky's bass is mixed too low during the choruses, and you can tell it's a great, complex part too.
  3. I feel that, much like Crystal, it's like a wonderful hybrid of the dark, foreboding feeling of Joy Division combined with the electro/dance aesthetic of New Order.
  4. 95%. Great song.
  5. I haven't heard the community stuff yet, but I think it was a great idea and it shows what a cool fanbase this band has.
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350125go wrote:

  1. I feel that, much like Crystal, it's like a wonderful hybrid of the dark, foreboding feeling of Joy Division combined with the electro/dance aesthetic of New Order.

I couldn't agree with you more. I really like both of those songs & Krafty as well but I couldn't figure out or articulate why.

I didnt even know this song existed until recently & when I heard it, I was floored.

I just like the driving beat of it. The lyrics seem to go well with the music as well. It's great to listen to in the car as you're driving along.

The only drawback is the repititiveness of the chorus at the end.

What I love about it? It doesn't sound like any other New Order song!

80%

Community? I like that people are that inspired by New Order's music. Cool.

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Lovely track, combined elements of previous hits whilst doing something new. For what it was, it seemed a fitting tribute to the film with lyrics that hint at Ian.

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Several years late on my response, but... One of my fave tracks from the "later" period. Take the (radio edit) intro and slap it on the (full length vocal) and it is a monster of a track. My daughter asked me who the band was, we had a long chat=) Oh to be 16 again and enjoying my new copy of Brotherhood...

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