Weekly Song Review: KRAFTY

1. Instruments (drums, bass, synths)
2. Seems a tiny bit safe
3. Love it because it's catchy and very New Ordery
4. 78%
5. Surprise me

1. the neworderish interaction between loops, sequencers and real instruments
2. rhyme or die
3. 'cos it's simply new order
4. 75%
5. a live-clip of "Love Vigilantes" :bag:

1. Best bit : Hooky's bass
2. Worst bit : Lyrics are shite
3. Why do you love/hate it? Cause it's catchy, fresh and new. Ask me this question in a year from now and I'll be able to give you a proper answer then.
4. % Rating: 85%
5. What you you like to see enhanced on NewOrderOnline? I don't want the NOOL to change, I like the way it is, Just give me one more wish ...

1. Hooky's bass. The bit in the middle.
2. "But out there the world is a beautiful place With mountains, lakes and the human race"
3. Predictable retread of old material. Get remixing asap.
4. 60%
5. I love you just the way you are.

1. Opening beats, wobbly bit and end guitar riffs
2. The bit after the wobbly bit before the dancy beats...sounds too much like Such a Good Thing!
3. Its just classic and very catchy...even my Mrs likes it.
4. 96%
5. Neworderstory in downladable format.

1. Best bit: Hooky's bass
2. Worst bit: Lyrics, forcedly catchy chorus
3. Why do you love/hate it?: They're back / The last comeback was better
4. % Rating: 59%
5. What you you like to see enhanced on NewOrderOnline? Nic read please: All the messages of a subscribed forum (and not only thread) received on E Mail account, possibly with daily digests!

1. Lyrics
2. Lyrics
3. Love it because it makes me feel how New Order used to do - but haven't since Regret...
4. 90%
5. More old live audio tracks please :)

1. Best bit - Sweeping synths after first chorus, chimes before the last one.
2. Worst bit - downplayed vocals
3. Why do you love/hate it? - Love it cos it's closer to BLT than anything off Get Ready. Hate it cos it's too understated.
4. % Rating 65%
5. What you you like to see enhanced on NewOrderOnline? Nothing

1. The overall catchiness and singalong feel to it.
2. Simplistic and dull lyrics.
3. Like I said, the catchiness is great. I have to hear it on CD-quality for me to meaningfully affix a love or hate to it. So far though, I like. :)
4. 85%
5. Hmm, it seems top-notch as it is! Whatever happened to the chat function? Nearly everytime I had tried no one was ever in there. What about an IM function? These are all trivial suggestions though. I sincerely think you do a fantastic job as it is!

All Shite even Blue Monday is better

EXTREMELY DISSAPOINTED WITH KRAFTY! If they put this out as a single then the albums going to bomb! Same OLD stuff,nothing new,can't believe i'm saying this though! Will still buy the single & album in every format,but still dissapointed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

1. Hooky's and synth bass at the beginning and the end / stop-and-go at the end / greaaaat drums
2. The verses, the string break after 1st chorus, the small bell during the chorus...
3. Too poppy ! Childish tune !
4. 55%
5. I'm OK with NOOL so far !

1. Hooky's bass, Barney's singing, the instrumental middle section

2. Lyrics I suppose, I'm the sort who doesn't pay attention to most of 'em.

3. Like it a lot, and while it maybe a bit too derivative of some past sounds, still blows away most everything else I've heard yet this year.

4. Give it 80%

5. Search engine as well.

1. Best bit - it's quite catchy in its own way
2. Worst bit - typically banal lyrics
3. Why do you love/hate it? - I don't, yet
4. % Rating - solid 50%, I'm a hard taskmaster
5. What you you like to see enhanced on NewOrderOnline? - The live section is not conducive to being used, each gig on its own page is very resource-intensive and wasteful, and it is not all that easy to navigate. Plus the database seems to have problems with certain tracks still. I can understand the wish to have ticket/setlist scans, but the repeating of images common to a particular tour doesn't offer very much. I'd prefer the live index to be more along the lines of Sam's site, where you can see the sets of a range of dates easily, and can follow hyperlinks to relevant additional information where appropriate. Without wishing to be critical of all the work Nick has put into this site (and like all of us I do appreciate just what has gone into making this the most popular New Order site out there), certain aspects just don't sit right, like the "rating" facility for the records (this ain't Amazon) or the "my collection" (what's that all about?). That said, this place is still the best there is, and is the only website that I don't own that has held my interest for four years.

1 - i loved the drums. i think thei're great 2 - the lyrics, but i think that Barney always wrote simple lyrics 3 - is 100% New Order 4 - 85% 5 - i like the way it is, but it would be great to have more rarities for download or to hear

I FUCKING LOVE IT :)

1. Best bit catchy, pacey and wrapped in neworderesqueness

2. Worst bit I cant believe people are slagging it off

3. Why do you love it? Barneys lyrics, Hookys guitar, Steves drums.. ;)

4. % Rating Too early to rate it but its damn good!

5. What you you like to see enhanced on NewOrderOnline? Its all good :)

Originally posted by Major Tarantino I FUCKING LOVE IT :)

I second that CTB

Thank you God! What else can I say :)

1-Best Bit is the opening. 2-Worst Bit: too catchy and poppy. 3- Overall 80% 4- I have much neglected visiting NOOL of late but it seems more or less as usual. Nearly perfect. Bring back Huntsy and Patrick, though.

Overall is a grower, first time I heard it I was disappointed.
Now I've heard it six or seven times I am happier. Crystal it ain't though. Superb intro and nice, catchy chorus. Lyrically impaired as usual. I'm itching to listen to stronger flavoured mixes.

Now, how can I take the blooming thing with me!!! I do not have Internet at home and can't wait till tomorrow to listen to it again. I guess I could stay at the office but...

Originally posted by CTB > Originally posted by Major Tarantino I FUCKING LOVE IT :)

I second that CTB

I third it! Here's my proper review:

1. Best bit: It's a classy comeback song
2. Worst bit: The vocals are a little too low in the mix
3. Why do you love/hate it?: I love it because it's New Order, it's good and it makes me smile like the crazy fool I am! :D
4. % Rating: 89%
5. What you you like to see enhanced on NewOrderOnline?: Nothing, it's fine the way it is

1. Best bit - Bass in the beginning
2. Worst bit - Not yet
3. Why do you love/hate it? - Been done before apart from the wobbly bit but it sounds fresh. Catchy chorus. I likee.
4. % Rating - 80%, may yet advance.
5. What you you like to see enhanced on NewOrderOnline? The forum menu returned as it was.

Best bit - Hooky's bass in the middle Worst bit - None really although the chiming bit at end of instrumental break is VERY reminiscent of Such A Good Thing (possibly, not such a good thing) Love it because - I think it gets better with every listen - a real grower and it's just what i was hoping for(my housemate's just wandered in and proclaimed "my god, that's sooooo New Order) Rating - 90% Enhance? - Nothing, your perfect as you are.

1 the music + chorus 2 the verses 3 they're back 4 on first listen, 50%, now edging toward 75% 5 the news and forum aspects are fine

1. Best bit - When Hooky's bass kicks in
2. Worst bit - Barney's voice too 'sweet' and lyrics too 'ordinary'
3. Why do you love/hate it? It's definitely a grower and if you just think of the lyrics as Barney taking the piss (right, er, mountains, lakes and... f*** it, 'the human race'? - that 'ill do)they're bearable
4. Rating - 7/10
5. What you you like to see enhanced on NewOrderOnline? More audio downloads (80's gigs, Barney's crowd banter), 80s TV appearances and 80s magazine interviews - I think there's a theme here...

1. drumming and guitars are fine
2. lyrics suck, meaningless pop song, not what I expect from NO
3. neither love nor hate, been just a bit dissapointed
4. 40% for a NO-song
5. love it the way it is, only the NOOL-Forum doesn't work that well with Firefox, Microsoft sucks.

1. That great synthy-keyboardy bit about halfway through
2. Well... Barney's corny lyrics
3. It's catchy, but too poppy for my liking
4. 50%
5. It's a top site, would like more videos though and more listens to the rarer remixes in their discography

best bit- intro worst bit- the rest of the song percent rading- 10% why i hate it/love it- the intro came i heard the drums and the hookster and im like yeah new order is coming back, then i heard the chorus, sounds like a michelle branch song with poppy figured Rhythms with vocals and guitar, its lame. sounds like a lame version of regret... maybe im just too stuck on the old new order sound, something that will never return NEWORDERONLINE IS A- OK to me :)

1. catchy melody with noisy instruments
2. lyrics as usual,but I don't mind and I'm happy about it.
3. reminds me of the old NO songs and that's why I love and hate this song. Very hard to explain.
4. I say 75% for thier comeback song, but NO didn't surprise me as they did the last time in 1993.
5. I'm a newcomer but some data (live) are not very useful, though I like here so much.;)

1. Best bit Hooky/music
2. Worst bit barney's lyrics
3. Why do you love/hate it? I dont
4. % Rating 63%
5. What you you like to see enhanced on NewOrderOnline search format. also more stats please(im a nerd:()

1. Bass
2. "human race" lyrics
3. It's NO, gotta love it, I've alraedy snapped at my missus who criticised it as bland. 4.70% increasing to 77% with more listens.
4. you're too kind already.

1. The production is superb and fresh.
2. Some of the lyrics.
3. I don't love it or hate it, but has good/catchy music and a great drum/bass rythm.
4. Well Crystal for me is over 90% so this one should be about 80%-83%
5. I like it as it is... except from the "undefined" error at line 226 I get from the dropdown menu :p

1. Best bit : Defenitely the production and Hooky's bass. And of course the lyrics.:D
2. Worst bit : The chorus is catchy but not classic; I like the verses better.
3. Why do you love/hate it? It's 2005 and New Order is still making music. Plus it sounds more like the 'old' New Order then most that's on Get Ready. Really looking forward to the album.
4. % Rating : 75

Like most new order records i hate it at first and then i wont get it out of my head til i DIE!!!

Im coming across the pond to see them all the way from NYC...someone show the bronx kid some love there!!!

peace

DJ eCKOh

WELCOME Tommy .....Tommy.Sorry about the echo!:D

It sounds like Monaco, also it reminds me of something off side A of Brotherhood. I like it, just not better than the old stuff, e.g. Brotherhood. As for the site, I've no complaints, I really love everything it boasts, Nic!

1. Best bit - When Bernard sings "I've gotta let you know" in his "smooth, musical" voice and when the music stops briefly - cool.
2. Worst bit - The wobbly instrumental bit in the middle.
3. Why do you love/hate it? - Love it cos it is New Order although I think it's a bit ordinary, as in not stand-out wow! like Regret or the energy of some on Get Ready.
4. % Rating - 75%
5. What you you like to see enhanced on NewOrderOnline? Nothing much - it's quiet and classy!

But that wobbly bit (which sounds fabulous loud!) is the little distinctive bit that separates this song (apart from the vastly superior production) from its Brotherhood compatriots!

01 best bit - the opening and chorus 02 worst bit - the verses 03 Why do you love/hate it? - can't say i particularly love it, it's just pleasant. i only hate the fact that barney continues to pull lyrics out of his ass. 04 % rating - 75% 05 what you you like to see enhanced on NewOrderOnline? the new album available for stream/download before its release :D

Am I wrong in thinking it sounds very much like AIIWIW?

1. Best bit - all the instrumental bits
2. Worst bit - the korny lyrics
3. Why do you love/hate it? - it's katchy but I neither love nor hate it
4. % Rating - 60% 5. What you you like to see enhanced on NewOrderOnline? NOOL is just about perfect, it's just the search option that never seems to work.

Re: But that wobbly bit (which sounds fabulous loud!) is the little distinctive bit that separates this song (apart from the vastly superior production) from its Brotherhood compatriots!

You are right I guess...I just picked my "least favourite" bit. When I first started getting into New Order music I felt that many songs sounded the same but as I listened over & over I grew to love the different little features which made each song become individual. I think this song for me will be like many others have been - at first it sounds kinda average and just "New Ordery" but as I listen more it will establish a place in my heart!! Just not at the top of the list, that's all. But who knows?! When I first heard "Regret" I wasn't that impressed but now I wonder what in sam hell was I thinking? I love that tune and every remix and think it's one of their best.

1. Best bit - The chorus makes me happy to be alive. It reminds me of 'Pet Sounds' believe it or not.

2. The music itself is too conventional. The teen sex video looks like it was directed by Larry Clark. I'd be very surprised if it gets shown on MTV.

3. Love it. It's a zesty upbeat tune that isn't insincere or stupid. I really don't understand why some people think it's shit. If you don't like this you don't like New Order.

4. 90% But I'll probably get sick of it soon because the chorus is so catchy it's already permanently etched in my brain.

1. Best bit - The instrumental bridge between the first chorus and the second verse. It's lovely and completely unrelated to the rest of the song. Classic New Order touch.

2. Worst bit - My mother taught me that if you can't say anything nice about New Order's universally dreadful lyrics, then don't say anything at all. So I won't.

3. Why do I love it? - Well, while it's true that "Krafty" breaks absolutely no new ground, it's still pretty damn delicious. All the expected sonic hallmarks are there - the mammoth doodling bass, the criscrossing swaths of synth majesties, a rhythmic steadiness that'd do Charlie Watts proud, and Barney's crispy naïve guitarring. They can do this stuff in their sleep (and probably do), but since it's their signature sound, and no one does it better, I'm giving it more slack than is probably necessary. Still, it's easily their best single since "Regret."

4. Rating - I'd give it an 85 for the time being.

5. Enhancements? - Well, I'm new here. I've barely seen the entire site! It all looks pretty good to me.

Patrick wrote: Am I wrong in thinking it sounds very much like AIIWIW?

It reminds me more of "All the way," actually. The first few times I heard it, I kept wanting to break into "Who do you think you're talking to?" on the choruses.

Oh, and for what it's worth, it's getting a shitload of airplay out here.

Best Bit - The heartbreaking chorus

Worst bit - The string break

Why do I love it - Because it sums up everything New Order mean to me. I don't understand why people moan about the lyrics. They're classic Sumner lyrics. I love them because they're simple, naive, almost childlike, but at the same time optimistic and heartfelt. They're the type of lyrics anyone could write (but never will). They completely lack any pretention and do the business of giving us an honest account of why life is both brilliant and rubbish and frustrating and beautiful. Honesty. That's what New Order have always been about, and these lyrics are honest. That's what makes them brilliant.

best bit is the bass and the synth part halfway through and the drumming at the end

barneys lyrics are always made up on the spot but someone has made a decent video out of them so its not all bad

sounds like crystal and regret

better than the rest of the re-hashed crap in the charts

ill give it 7 out of ten

hope the rest of the album is as good as waiting for the the sirens call track

1. it's new NO, no? catchy. intro/backing synth line. wobbly bit.

2. too lightweight poppy. not as decent as crystal or Here to stay

3. 70%

4. bring back the search option!

1. Best Bit - The synth breaks, especially the second one after the wobbly bit - The Bells The Bells.

2. Very hard to pick out a worst bit it's all good

3. Love/Hate: Love the lyrics, classic Barney it is part of NO's charm that Barney WILL write corny lyrics, The synths, drums, Hookey bass guitar. Hate: Nothing

4. 212 Fahrenheit %

5. The site is fine as it is.

Hang on all you lyric slammers, aren't Barney's cute rhyming couplets a big part of why you love New order?! It's like being 15 forever!

I like Krafty; it's just poppy newordery nice. Not very special but just nice like favourite old tshirt.

Not every piece of work has to be your best work.

Neworderonline looks pretty good to me so far...

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1. Dun Dun Dun Dun Dun Dun etc...
2. Worrying whether or not I liked it the first few times I heard it.
3. Love it - Barney's lyrics seem to be getting more optimistic in his old age.
4. 80%
5. More moderation.

1. Best bit

2. Worst bit

3. Why do you love/hate it?

4. % Rating

5. What you you like to see enhanced on NewOrderOnline?#

6. Lyrics. Life affirming.

7. The end.

8. It's Regret, older, wiser and still full of hope.

9. 95%

10. Nothing particularly comes to mind.

1. Best bit: The brief pause after the instrumental bit in the middle...
2. Worst bit: For me the chorus doesn't quite live up to the brilliance of the the rest of the song...
3. Love it: As always a fantastic first single off an album - a great POP song, makes me smile...
4. Rating: 80%
5. To enhance NOOL: nothing I can think of right now...

Snorri xxx

This song remind me to Plcebo "Second Sight" and NO "Close Range". I like it. I think the video is brutal... :) Krafty - it`s just guitar and voice over shooting...:)

1. Best bit - Everything about the song. From the lyrics to the music, something quite wonderful. But especially the lyrics... especially the second verse. That's my favorite verse. 'Nuff said.

2. Worst bit - When it actually ENDS.

3. Why do I love it? - First of all, it was proof to me that not only were New Order still alive but that they were also STILL making music! That song led me enough to buy the album, which is hands down one of the greatest albums of all time... well, at least in my humble opinion anyway.

4. Rating - 99.9%, 'cause the full 100% rating belongs to one other NO song...

5. Enhancements? - None that I know of... aside from MORE REMIXES, PLEASE! :D

Its just, er? Poptastic innit?

1. (Best bit) - simply because it's New Order
2. (Worst bit) - sounds like jpop, and the Japanese Version fits very well to a Japanese anime opener.
3. (Why do you love/hate it?) - same as #1, and I don't hate the song.
4. (% Rating) - B
5. (What you you like to see enhanced on NewOrderOnline?) - a search feature for the forums.

Indeed!

8/10