Originally posted by bLuE oRdEr
> Originally posted by Hydrapelican> Ok...its not their fault but everyone out here in California seems to think that their new music is the second freaking coming...and that the fact that they are touring is a not to miss experience.> > I've heard the new track/single on the radio...its ok..in fact its actually pretty good...but absolutely positively not anywhere near as good as Crystal or several other songs from GR!!> > Where is the love for NO?? It just really pisses me off that GR and Crystal were ignored here and the Cure is suddenly everyone's favorite band.....grrrrrrr
I think your anger is misplaced. The Cure regularly release new material, and regularly tour in support of it. They have kept their fan base alive; New Order hasn't. How many shows did New Order play here when Get Ready was released?
That said, the abysmal state of radio makes it difficult for New Order to get what little new material they do release heard when they (and their contemporaries) can't even get airplay.
Hydrapelican, I am originally from San Jose. I moved to Portland in 2000. Live 105 used to be a great station; by the time I left, it was just another corporate cog in a national chain cranking out the same nu-metal shite every other station in the conglomerate's portfolio was playing. The only way to hear Blue Monday was if they played Orgy's cover. Just out of curiosity, has radio changed in the Bay Area? Are there stations playing the new Cure CD? When I left, the only station playing the old Live 105 roster of artists was also playing 80's crap like, oh, I don't remember, Michael Jackson, for instance. Anything 80's seemed to be their format, rather than (the Brits better brace themselves here) the "alternative" format that Live 105 used to play. So has radio changed for the better since 2000, or is it still nu-metal and "anything 80's"?
The scene has improved quite a bit imho. Channel 104.9 came along and showed up Live 105 for exactly what you mention above. 104.9 usually takes most of the real risks and plays new artists without worrying about whether they will "fit" the format...at least to the extent that any "for profit" radio station can/does (the quake being the only exception I ever knew...that is an OOOLLDD bay area station though and long gone.). 104.9 also plays very cool songs from the 80's and ninetys as well...I would say the mix is about 80% new and 20% 80's and 90's. They do have a good feel for what has stood up well from the past and continue to keep in mixed in. 104.9 also seemed to have given Live 105 a much needed kick in the butt as the new program director actually ran promo spots at the beginning of the year promising to widen the format and to go beyond the songs that everyone knows...and they actually have done that...including playing the killers new track that is super catchy and also heard nowhere else. I have heard NO (Love Viglantes and Regret) on Live 105 in the past 5 months (in addition to TF, BM, BLT). As for other 80's stations...there are actually two pretty good ones: 106.5 and 97.3. They both actually try to play a lot of different songs and their mix is about 70% 80's and 30% current. Finally...my favorite local station has to be 103.3 which is the Santa Clara University station...they have no less than 10 DJ's that are very knowledgeable and play fantastic music.
my 2 cents 
I do realise that Robert Smith's guitar style can be a little like NO's at times, and Hooky might as well have been bassist on alot of their work, but once you get past that, the quality of some of their songwriting becomes clear.