HOCKEY IS BACK!!! :clap:
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The NHL and the players' association announced Wednesday that they had reached reached an agreement in principle on the terms of a new Collective Bargaining Agreement. Details were not released, pending the formal ratification process by NHLPA members and the NHL board of governors.
However, in his Insider Weblog, ESPN The Magazine's E.J. Hradek -- with the help of key sources on both sides of the table -- offered a look at some of the expected terms:
Term: Six years.
Salary rollback: All remaining contracts will be rolled back 24 percent. The rollback will also impact players who must be given qualifying offers for new deals. Those qualifying offers will be based on a player's salary in his last contracted year, minus the 24 percent rollback.
2004-05 contracts: Those contracts will simply disappear from the ledger. Players, however, will be credited with a "year of service." Years of service can determine a player's free-agent status.
Salary cap: Each team must meet a minimum, but not exceed a maximum payroll number. For the 2005-06 season, the high-end threshold will be approximately $37-$39.5 million. The low-end threshold will be between $21.5-$24.5 million.
The numbers are based on the league's projection of revenue for the 2005-06 season. The projection is approximately $1.7-$1.8 billion. According to the league, total revenues for the last complete season (2003-04) were $2.1 billion.
If revenues increase, the salary cap thresholds will increase on a season-to-season basis. If revenues decrease, the salary cap thresholds will decrease on a season-to-season basis.
Buyouts: Teams will be allowed a window of time to buyout player contracts. A player can be bought out for two-thirds of the total remaining value of his contract, minus the 24 percent rollback. A team will not be allowed to re-sign a player they have bought out for a still to be determined amount of time. The money spent to buyout a player will NOT count against the salary cap.
Escrow: A still to be determined percent of players salaries will be placed in an escrow account. In the new deal, league-wide payroll can't exceed 54 percent of total league-wide revenue. If league-wide payroll is determined to be more than 54 percent of revenues, the escrow account will be passed back to the clubs. If league-wide payroll is determined to be less than 54 percent of revenues, the escrow account will go to the players.
Individual team-by-team player cap: No single player can earn more than 20 percent of his team's total payroll. For example, a team with a total team payroll of $37.5 million couldn't pay a single player more than $7.5 million.
Revenue-sharing: The top 10 revenue clubs will contribute to a pool that will be redistributed to the bottom 10 revenue clubs. The NHLPA proposed a similar revenue sharing component in 1994 during the league's first lockout.
Unrestricted free agency: It will remain frozen at age 31 for the first year of the new CBA. It will gradually decrease to age 28 during the life of the deal.
Salary arbitration: The club and the player will both have ability to elect to go to arbitration. Although not confirmed, I believe NHL will go to a baseball-style arbitration system that calls for both sides to submit a salary figure and an arbitrator to decide on one number or the other. There will be a limit on the number of times a team or player can go to arbitration. And, the clubs will have a limited number of times they can walk away from an arbitrator's decision. Under the old system, the clubs could not take players to arbitration.
Qualifying offers: Players making less than $660,000 must be tendered qualifying offers of 110 percent of their final contracted season's salary. Players making between $660,000.01 and $1 million must be tendered qualifying offers of 105 percent of their final contracted season's salary. Players making over $1 million must be tendered qualifying offers of 100 percent of their final contracted season's salary.
Entry level contracts: Entry level contracts will be capped $850,000 per season, with a maximum signing bonus at 10 percent of salary per season. The contracts will be three years in length.
Minimum salary: The minimum salary will be $400,000. Under the old agreement, the league minimum was $175,000.
2006 Winter Olympics: The NHL will shut down operations in February 2006 to allow players to participate in the Winter Olympics. To accommodate the scheduling issues, the league will cancel its 2005-06 All-Star Weekend (scheduled for Phoenix).
thank you nick, i hadn't heard yet. well it is about time. my only fear now is that the rangers Win the sydney crosby draft lottery and ruin the games next big star.
so nick i will be in montreal over labor day, what are the chances of seeing les canadiens training camp or exhibition game?
so the next week should be interesting a lot of players have no contracts and imsure a few teams are over the new cap
hockey is back!!!!!!
frank smarra wrote: thank you nick, i hadn't heard yet. well it is about time. my only fear now is that the rangers Win the sydney crosby draft lottery and ruin the games next big star.
so nick i will be in montreal over labor day, what are the chances of seeing les canadiens training camp or exhibition game?
so the next week should be interesting a lot of players have no contracts and imsure a few teams are over the new cap
hockey is back!!!!!!
In the coming weeks we'll see a lot of UFAs after they start buying out those big contracts. Should be a lot of movement.
frank smarra wrote: thank you nick, i hadn't heard yet. well it is about time. my only fear now is that the rangers Win the sydney crosby draft lottery and ruin the games next big star.
so nick i will be in montreal over labor day, what are the chances of seeing les canadiens training camp or exhibition game?
so the next week should be interesting a lot of players have no contracts and imsure a few teams are over the new cap
hockey is back!!!!!!
Tough to say right now... they will probably release the pre-season schedule later this year... 
well if not i at least want a nice picture of us in front of the Rockey Richard Statue.
the rosters are going to be crazy, i know the Islanders have like 5 guys under contract, kenny jonsson is rumored to be staying in sweden, thats a big loss.
i need to start looking to see who will be available, the league will be wide open, what are detroit, colorado and the rangers going to do they must be way over the cap even with the rollbacks, this will be interesting.
yah im originally from detroit so i always root for them but now that im in florida i get to root for the lightning too. i went to the parade too =)
awesome job finding the details on that. i was bowling and espn was on, they just showed scenes of the lightning winning i didnt know what was going on
frank smarra wrote: well if not i at least want a nice picture of us in front of the Rockey Richard Statue.
the rosters are going to be crazy, i know the Islanders have like 5 guys under contract, kenny jonsson is rumored to be staying in sweden, thats a big loss.
i need to start looking to see who will be available, the league will be wide open, what are detroit, colorado and the rangers going to do they must be way over the cap even with the rollbacks, this will be interesting.
Frank, are you a fellow Islander fan?
With the buyout option included in the CBA I would think teams like the Rangers and other big spenders will opt out of those heavy contracts. I wouldn't be surprised if the Isles used that to get out of Yashin's contract.
i am an Islanders fan, i would love to keep yashin if he would just play to his potential, but obviously if they can dump his contract at a reasonable price i think they Should. we still have a strong Defensive core(jonsson supposedly sint coming back, that hurts , he is very underrated), good but yet unproven goaltending, but we do need scoring. parrish is to streaky, peca hasnt done anything since the darcy tucker thing, and kvasha is kvasha, and we still have to see if Trent Hunter is Consistent, I Think Mattias Weinhadl is for real he will score 25-30 goals consistently as will papineau, once they get some experience that is.(i still think we should have kept Raffi Torres instead of throwing him away to the oilers in that horrible deal for Janne Niinimma(I HATE HIM 
. hopefully mad Mike Milbury will make some smart deals
i am dying to see what teams like the rangers and detroit do to shed some payroll, and will messier finally retire or is he going to demand to be the rangers highest paid player
shit look at all the stuff i wrote about hockey, i love it!
this new agreement shold give teams, like my hometown team, Buffalo Sabres, a fighting chance.
Now if only baseball would do this.
leeharveyoswald1963 wrote: this new agreement shold give teams, like my hometown team, Buffalo Sabres, a fighting chance.
Now if only baseball would do this.
If baseball would have done this, there would have been no team in Washington...!!
Maybe it's fortunate, but nobody in his right mind in Canada was stupid enough to buy the Expos when you see the Yankees with a 200M$ payroll... 
The good thing about this new CBA is that superstar players will actually pick the team they want to go, and not go there because of the money...
Since there is a salary cap where no player can have more than 20% of the payroll, most big teams will offer the exact same salary for that player.
Of course, they will find a way... I can see this from here.. "If you come to New York, you'll get sponsorships from x and y, etc"... but what can you do?!
We Are All On Drugs wrote: are the Stars still in Dallas, or did they move back to Minnesota?!?!?!
there still there, and Minnesota has a new team
That's this idiot commissioner's biggest mistake... don't send hockey where there is no winter... 
They should have done a european division!
Spotnick wrote: That's this idiot commissioner's biggest mistake... don't send hockey where there is no winter...
They should have done a european division!
Hey...what's wrong with having teams in the south???
Last time I checked...Dallas had done alright...won Lord Stanley's Cup and all...blah blah blah...oh...can I show this again???
Well Jeff, sorry to say this, but it's quite stupid to have teams in Carolina (sorry Trevor!) and in, hum, Florida, where people don't give a shit about hockey, instead of Winnipeg and Quebec City were the arenas were full all the time...
Back then, our dollar was 0.62$ US, now it's 0.82$ US, maybe the tide has turned.... who knows!
(Just realize this mean that suddenly, the owners are paying their players 33% less t han what they used to... that's huge!)
Spotnick wrote: Well Jeff, sorry to say this, but it's quite stupid to have teams in Carolina (sorry Trevor!) and in, hum, Florida, where people don't give a shit about hockey, instead of Winnipeg and Quebec City were the arenas were full all the time...
Not mention the difference between cities with ICE and cities WITHOUT ice.
Am I the only one who thinks this threads title is HOOKEY IS BACK!!! every time I see it? 
Church of the KLF wrote: So which teams do you think will have the best shots at the Cup this year?
it is impossible to tell there is going to be a mass player movemenet in the next month, most teams have 4 or five players under contract, some have to get under the cap, so look for a lot of buyouts, mass unrestricted free agency and some forced retirements.
also i agree with nick some of these places have no business having a team, they dont support them unless they are winning, i mean look at tampa, the january before they won the cup they couldnt fill the building with the most exciting team in the league, of course everyone and their mother showed up for the victory parade but big deal.'
as far as i can remember the Nordiques were sold out for years, the jets too. and neither of them won anything.
i would have loved to have gotten rid of two or four teams but that isnt goin gto happen, bettman did go overboard with expansion in the 90's.
so i think its next thursday that they decide who gets the 1st pick(sydney Crosby)
im sure the Poor Rangers will land him
buffalo, columbus, pittsburgh, and the Rags have the best chance to land the 1st pick , but everyone has a shot at him
is he the real deal?
frank smarra wrote:
Church of the KLF wrote: So which teams do you think will have the best shots at the Cup this year?
it is impossible to tell there is going to be a mass player movemenet in the next month, most teams have 4 or five players under contract, some have to get under the cap, so look for a lot of buyouts, mass unrestricted free agency and some forced retirements.
also i agree with nick some of these places have no business having a team, they dont support them unless they are winning, i mean look at tampa, the january before they won the cup they couldnt fill the building with the most exciting team in the league, of course everyone and their mother showed up for the victory parade but big deal.' as far as i can remember the Nordiques were sold out for years, the jets too. and neither of them won anything. i would have loved to have gotten rid of two or four teams but that isnt goin gto happen, bettman did go overboard with expansion in the 90's. so i think its next thursday that they decide who gets the 1st pick(sydney Crosby) im sure the Poor Rangers will land him buffalo, columbus, pittsburgh, and the Rags have the best chance to land the 1st pick , but everyone has a shot at him.
I have a nasty feeling the Rangers are going to win the lottery. I'm sure the NHL would love to have Crosby in NYC.
Rian wrote: Shit. Now all the good swedish hockeyplayers will return to NHL.
well i know from what i hear Kenny Jonsson will not be returning to the N.H.L. Big loss for the Islanders.
also can colorado afford both sakic and Forsberg? impossible under this CBA so maybee forsberg will stay in sweden where he can command a lot of money and play at home, i think he has said he might do that.
frank smarra wrote:
Rian wrote: Shit. Now all the good swedish hockeyplayers will return to NHL.
well i know from what i hear Kenny Jonsson will not be returning to the N.H.L. Big loss for the Islanders.
also can colorado afford both sakic and Forsberg? impossible under this CBA so maybee forsberg will stay in sweden where he can command a lot of money and play at home, i think he has said he might do that.
The Isles D could be a problem this year with Jonsson staying in Sweden and Aucoin and Hamrlik being UFAs.
frank smarra wrote: so i think its next thursday that they decide who gets the 1st pick(sydney Crosby) im sure the Poor Rangers will land him buffalo, columbus, pittsburgh, and the Rags have the best chance to land the 1st pick , but everyone has a shot at him
He dreams to be a Habs though :D
What's funny is that Toronto actually won the showcase draft 
anybody has a shot, but it would be stupid if he ends up in Detroit, Colorado or any team that won division championships recently...
So, the only important thing now is, where will Sydney go?
Hopefully in the east... tired of seeing most stars in the west!
the Draft order "Lottery" is being held behind closed doors and i would be shocked if he wasn't awarded to the New York Rangers, i hate them but the league wants them to be strong and marketable. we will find out tomorrow
Spotnick wrote: Actually, now it WILL be on TV
...says the guy who lives in Canada. I don't know if ESPN will show it. Be sure to post the winner here ASAP.
i just read that its Only on TSN. oh well. they say this weekend will be crazy, with buyouts and whatnot then August 1st starts the free agent frenzy, lets see what happens
If the Rangers gets Crosby, their will be a riot across all hockey cities
Seriously, they have done SO BAD in the last decade that they shouldn't get a free ride like that!!
Keep your fatly paid players to yourself and avoid the rookies ;)
i couldnt agree more nick, he would look nice in an Islanders sweater
or canadians, hopefully the leafs dont get him, i really cant stand the teams they have had in the past few seasons, it went downhill when they got rid of Gilmour;)
what if pittsburgh gets crosy he can learn from Super Mario, too bad i think the pens will be somewhere else in a couple of seasons, unless they get a new building, even with cost certanty, they will have trouble.
Sources have told TSN that the NHLPA has accepted the league's proposal for a new collective bargaining agreement. Some 225 players were in Toronto Thursday for the vote, with the other 500 or so casting their ballots electronically. The meeting will be followed by an afternoon news conference with both NHLPA boss Bob Goodenow and commissioner Gary Bettman.
i hear that goodenough is planning to step down as leader of the Players Association, i dont know how true it is though.
well come october things will be as they should be. hopefully the islanders can build a competitive team in the next 2 weeks
frank smarra wrote: i hear that goodenough is planning to step down as leader of the Players Association, i dont know how true it is though. well come october things will be as they should be. hopefully the islanders can build a competitive team in the next 2 weeks
Expect him to step down because he said he would never agree on a cap and linkage to revenues..
And expect Mark Gartner to take over...
FinalMoment wrote: What is hockey? - PAH!!! Patiently waiting for the college basketball and the NBA:\ohwell:
i went to watch the NY Knicks Vs some team in January....god basketball has to be the most boring sport in the world...they strectched a 52min game or whatever it is not even an hr anyway to just shy of 3hrs with all the stopping and pissing about....basketball= rubbish
frank smarra wrote:
Rian wrote: Shit. Now all the good swedish hockeyplayers will return to NHL.
also can colorado afford both sakic and Forsberg? impossible under this CBA so maybee forsberg will stay in sweden where he can command a lot of money and play at home, i think he has said he might do that.
That's what I heard too. That Forsberg will stay in Sweden.
His only problem is that he have never played as good hockey in Sweden, compared to NHL.
Oh well.
New rules for 2005-2006:
- Allowing the two-line pass (no red line) like international hockey;
- Reduction in goalie equipment;
- Using the AHL crease and limits on goaltender puck handling;
- No tie games; using a penalty shootout after overtime;
- No-touch icing;
- Bringing back tag-up offside;
- Move nets back two feet towards end boards.
Ok, and the lock out is official over ;)
So far..
30 - Lightning 29 - Panthers 27 - Avalanches 26 - Flames 25 - Oilers 24 - Blues 23 - Devils 22 - Bruins 21 - Maple Leafs
20 - Flyers 19 - Red Wings 18 - Predators 17 - Coyotes 16 - Rangers 15 - Islanders 14 - Capitals 13 - Sabres 12 - Sharks 11 - Kings
Damn it, we're out of 10 in Montreal 
10 - Canucks 9 - Senators 8 - Trashers 7 - Black Hawks 6 - Blue Jackets 5 - Canadiens 4 - Wild 3 - Hurricanes
Spotnick wrote: 20 - Flyers 19 - Red Wings 18 - Predators 17 - Coyotes 16 - Rangers 15 - Islanders 14 - Capitals 13 - Sabres 12 - Sharks 11 - Kings
Damn it, we're out of 10 in Montreal
Eh, 15 is about where the Isles would be picking anyway. At least the Rangers didn't get Crosby. Bring on the buyouts!
Can't fookin believe the Habs will pick so high, they should have been 18th or higher!
They actually got the best pick for the 1 ball teams..!
Forum ghosts are will there ;)
...but will people care? even friends of mine here in toronto are less interested. i can't imagine what it's like in the southern U.S.
has the damage been done?...
Unagiboy wrote: ...but will people care? even friends of mine here in toronto are less interested. i can't imagine what it's like in the southern U.S.
has the damage been done?...
No one in the Southern US cared to begin with. The new rules and financial structure should provide more interest. Either way, I certainly care. I can't wait.
Unagiboy wrote: ...but will people care? even friends of mine here in toronto are less interested. i can't imagine what it's like in the southern U.S.
has the damage been done?...
I though I wouldn't care, but if they DO help the game to be more interesting my applying the damned rules, I'll go back anytime and my interest will peak with the playoffs.
I'm not a super junkie, but when comes the playoffs, I can't get enough of it.
I hope so. I'll take hockey over any of the crappy shows the networks put on last year like, So You Think You Can Dance-With-The-Stars-And-Marry-My-Father-With-An-Extreme-Makeover!!
Happy to see it...but alas my Washington capitals will suck huge time.....and of course the League loves Mario-so he gets Sidney Crosby! and my caps get #14!!
I love it not only do the Rangers Pick.. 16TH!
the Islanders got the 15TH slot!!!
don maloney looked like he was just stabbed in the heart, and milbury could barley contain his smile.
i think crosby is a good fit with the pens, what a disaster if the Ducks Landed him.
all the rule changes are good too, except the point for losing in Overtime, whats with that if you lose you get Nothing, thats the way it Should be.
word is the leafs will be trying to lure forsberg to TO, When the free agency Period Opens.
will be a busy few weeks
Ed Dalder wrote: Happy to see it...but alas my Washington capitals will suck huge time.....and of course the League loves Mario-so he gets Sidney Crosby! and my caps get #14!!
You probably have the rookie of the year in Washington in Ovechkin... so I'd watch them closely if I were you!
Crosby might be good, but Ovechkin is one year older and not that far behind.
frank smarra wrote: I love it not only do the Rangers Pick.. 16TH! the Islanders got the 15TH slot!!!
I agree that the point for a loss in overtime is not a good idea.. at first I thought it would be one, but rather than forcing the team to play offensively to get the extra point (as they should have done), it made the team play defensively to preserve the tie in the 3rd period to at least get one point....
So it should be abolished... and lose the point system and go to a W/L only standing...
Detroit Reportedly to Buy Out, Darian Hatcher, Ray Whitney and Darren McCarty, also former hab Brian Savage to be Bought out by the Coyotes
You probably have the rookie of the year in Washington in Ovechkin... so I'd watch them closely if I were you!
Crosby might be good, but Ovechkin is one year older and not that far behind.
True but remeber that the caps played The Pens something like 7 or 8 times in the playoffs lost 7 times including blowing 3-1 leads twice.....so mario is a personal bad guy and responsible for a lot of bad karma.....oh how I hate Mario! Spotnick-you grew up happy as a Habs fan
Unagiboy wrote: I hope so. I'll take hockey over any of the crappy shows the networks put on last year like, So You Think You Can Dance-With-The-Stars-And-Marry-My-Father-With-An-Extreme-Makeover!!
Don't give FOX any new ideas dude...PLEASE NO!
Nice to see some hockey fans here!
If they serious about respecting the rules (obstruction), we can expect to have a pretty exciting season.
A lot of rookies should be hot this year, Corsby is tha main event but I think the rookie of the year will be Thomas Vanek from Buffalo (42 goals last here in is rookie AHL season).
I'm a ex-Quebec Nordiques fan so is tough for me to love the Habs but Gainey seems to wants real changes. Brisebois is out and maybe Koivu will be buy.
Any Minnesota Wild fans here? That's my team. Thanks to NHL Center Ice to help me see their games.
Thanks to NHL Center Ice to help me see their games.
Hey how does that work?? I have been interested so I can get maximum puck
Ed Dalder wrote:
Hey how does that work?? I have been interested so I can get maximum puck
If you get TV by a satellite dish, just call your provider and ask for it. It cost me 250 or 300$ in canadian funds for a year.
Every night you can watch every game on different channels. Two year ago I had even acces to Maple Leafs pre-season games.
Of course, I came to realize that I'm more of a Habs fan than a hockey fan, because I only watch Habs games and can't enjoy a game without a team to root for...
So for me, I only need the basic cable package to get RDS where the 82 games are televised...
Mark Dickey wrote:
Ed Dalder wrote:
Hey how does that work?? I have been interested so I can get maximum puck
If you get TV by a satellite dish, just call your provider and ask for it. It cost me 250 or 300$ in canadian funds for a year.
Every night you can watch every game on different channels. Two year ago I had even acces to Maple Leafs pre-season games.
Center Ice is so worth it. Especially if you don't live near your team and you'd otherwise be stuck with the local bunch of scrubs (Panthers).
Spotnick wrote:
So for me, I only need the basic cable package to get RDS where the 82 games are televised...
I'm a french canadian and I'm not 100% billingual (as you can read my mistake in my posts), but I just can stand the way Pierre Houde describe a game. He seems lost so often and he even sends greetings to friends in hospital during the gameplay!!!!! A real shame!!!
Dan Delgado wrote:
Mark Dickey wrote:
Ed Dalder wrote:
Center Ice is so worth it. Especially if you don't live near your team and you'd otherwise be stuck with the local bunch of scrubs (Panthers).
I think the Panthers are on the way to the top. With prospects like Horton, Bouwmeester, Wiess, Stewart, Olesz, Roussin.... Jokinen and Huselius, two talented forward and the best young goaltender in the game; Roberto Luongo, they can't go wrong.
Oh, and Jacques Martin is one of the best coach to develop young players.
Mark Dickey wrote:
Spotnick wrote:
So for me, I only need the basic cable package to get RDS where the 82 games are televised...
I'm a french canadian and I'm not 100% billingual (as you can read my mistake in my posts), but I just can stand the way Pierre Houde describe a game. He seems lost so often and he even sends greetings to friends in hospital during the gameplay!!!!! A real shame!!!
Disons que ça ne me dérange pas.. ce qui aide.
Encore heureux que c'était pas à RDS de 1995 à 1999 lorsque j'ai fait mon bac à l'UQAC... !! je n'avais pas le câble à ce moment!
Just remembered today that my vacation will start on October 2, this means I might actually miss the first game
Since I'm doing a cruise, and should be between Quebec and Chicoutimi, I hope they can catch local TV on those...
I have a feeling I'll miss Depeche Mode, but THIS TOO? ah crap... !! ;)
What a crazy week!
I was happy to see the Habs sign unconsistancy itself Mr Kovalev back... too bad they can't do better, but they have a projected payroll of 35M$, so it would be hard to add anything.
Only logical addition at this point would be Teamu Selanne to play with Saku Koivu...
good for you-man I swear wheever see I see puck this year-I will need a program!! This CBA has unleashed parity (Kariya to the Predlies? like wow)
and someone fill me on the various offense oriented rules changes this year?
my head is in spin cycle
How do you feel about the Wings bringing Osgood back? I'm not sure if I trust him to take them to the Cup...But perhaps he was the best they could do, given Khabibulin's contract with the Hawks. I am very curious to see how it pans out.
Forseberg signed with the Flyers.of the N.H.L.
bobby clarke went over the cap and had to trade Roenick to L.A.
Supposedly lindros is almost signed to the Leafs, 1 year at 1.6 million, they are negotiating over bonuses, they are going to be total crap this season.
i like Osgood, he was great for the islanders and i think he will be solid in Detroit. i also like what the islanders have done Satan & Zhitnik were good signings, and the peca trade was great, york is on the way up as where peca was dOne after tucker took his knees out. i wish they would have gotten Aucoin back though, we have holes in the Defense with aucoin, jonsson and Hamrlik gone. janne niinimma is probaby the worst d -man they have, they guy gives up the puck in front of his own net at least 3 times a game, yet they sign him for 3 years? oh well thats mike milbury.
Frank, I do have the schedule!
Sept. 18th Atlanta in Montreal
Sept. 20th Tampa Bay in Montreal
Sept. 22nd Montreal in Toronto
Sept. 24th Toronto in Montreal
Sept. 27th Boston in Montreal
Sept. 28th Montreal in Boston
Oct. 1st Montreal in Ottawa
Oct. 2nd Ottawa in Montreal
I forgot to tell you i will be in montreal from September 3rd to the 6th, so i wont get to see the habs while im there.:(
im staying downtown at Novotel Montreal Centre 1180 Rue De La Montagne
do you know where it is? are you close to it? we are taking your advice and spending a day in Quebec City, probably the 5th. so we have to meet up for a drink if you have time, maybe dinner?
i already have a few requests for Rimouski/Crosby Jerseys.
so how are les canadiens fans reacting to the small moves the habs have made? i know that the leafs fans were livid but they seem happy enough with having tie Domi back and the prospect of Signing Lindros:dead:, maybe they will pressure Ferguson to bring back GILMOUR!
