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Is Simple Minds the most underrated band like....EVER???

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Seriously....has there ever been a band that went from shining like a star in the mid 80s to being virtually unknown, the way Simple Minds has? Everyone's heard their anthem, Don't You Forget About Me, but if you ask people today if they've heard of tracks like Up On the Catwalk, The American, New Gold Dream or All the things She Said, they'd gaze at you like a deer in the headlights.

Why has Simple Minds' popularity faded so much since then? They, to me, are the greatest band to ever play music. Seriously....as much as I love New Order, they are nothing compared to Simple Minds.

I started listening to SM way back in 1989. I first heard Alive and Kicking and instantly fell in love. No other band caught my attention the way they did. I was absolutely SPELLBOUNDED by songs like All the Things She Said and Promised You a Miracle. I consider New Gold Dream(the album) absolute perfection, with Street Fighting Years running a very close second.

Yet despite all this, they continue to make music, releasing album after album and go virtually unnoticed except in places like their hometown of Scotland. Why is this? What is wrong with America? Why are Americans listening to shit like the Offspring and Coldplay, when a band like Simple Minds are still out there going unnoticed? Why have Simple Minds' album sales decreased over time, despite them being at least competent if not remarkable, and very valiant efforts?

What is your favorite Simple Minds album? And what kind of sound would you like them to return to/create? What direction would you encourage them to go in, to get umm, noticed again?

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Are Pepsi and Shirlie the most underrated band of all time - that is what I want to know!:confused2: :nuts: :confused2:

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Some may say that Depeche Mode are the most underrated, simply because they are just as good, if not better, an overall package than U2.

Some may say that a-ha, or Talk Talk, or Ultravox were/are so much better than their sales would suggest.

I guess the secret to winning as many fans as possible is NOT to put as much faithful energy and emotion into your concerts, but simply to turn up to as many different venues around the world as you can.

(Or so it seems from where I'm looking in from...)

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Isamu wrote: I started listening to SM way back in 1989.

Surely this is years after everyone stopped listening to Simple Minds, no?!

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They were ace back in the 80's.

This is my order of their best albums.

1 - New gold dream 2 - Life in a day 3 - Sons and fascination 4 - Empires and dance 5 - Sparkle in the rain 6 - Live in the city of light

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Al Jarvis wrote:

Isamu wrote: I started listening to SM way back in 1989.

Surely this is years after everyone stopped listening to Simple Minds, no?!

Yeah. At least for me. Live in the city of light was releaed 1987. After that, I haven't really been listening to them.

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Digital Mike Binoche wrote: NO!

Correct!

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Hows about Hearsay?:skeptic:

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New Order is the most underrated band in my country

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Erm...I never rated Simple Minds very highly...

but if you like them, more power to you...

at least I don't hear anybody asking if NKOTB were underrated!!!

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Have to say I really quite like a few Simple Minds tracks, but thats about it.

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Well... I still love them (saw then 6 times live yet - next year 7 for sure)... I can't await the release of the new album in September... I tell everybody that they're underrated for 20 years now :D .

My Top Albums:

  1. Once upon a time (was my first ever, so it's No. #1 )
  2. Sons and Fascination
  3. New Gold Dream
  4. Sparkle in the Rain
  5. Street Fighting Years
  6. Our secrets are the same
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YES !

I like them a lot, and I think that's a shame they got somewhat bogged down during the 90s. That said, Cry sounds a very good album to me. For those who spit on SM but who appreciate JoyDivision and/or early NO songs, please listen to SM's compilation "Early Gold". I do hope you'll recognize the sounds you like, cause they are there too ! And quite well-crafted and combined, I should say...

Honestly, I enjoy much more listening to these early golden pieces than suffering the bunch of would-be new Joy Divisions which are launched on the market every two weeks, and which sound no crap but just are NOT JoyDivision and should try to offer us some novelty. Doesn't all this buzz around The Rakes, Editors, Interpol, The Departure and the likes recall you of the desperate search for the "new Beatles", that is a never-ending (and non-sensical) quest. Hopefully, the Darwin's laws will rule once again. Say hello, wave goodbye... welcome to the young men bringing progress to music and communion to the souls.

As did Simple Minds.

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i only knew them through the top 40 stations and MTV during the 1980s since they were pretty big for a while in the US. of course don't you forget about me, but also songs like promised you a miracle, sanctify yourself and alive and kicking were on pretty frequent rotation. then in 1991 i got their album 'real life' and listened to it frequently for about 6 months. i haven't listened to anything by them since, really, except for the occasional 'sentimental' song when i feel like regressing to my pre-teen/teen years.

if i were patsy i certainly would've chosen jim over liam anyday, though.:shrug:

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Jim Kerr is the fucking man.

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Johnny and The Self Abusers. No. Frankly they were huge, but what have they done lately?

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Do you think Spotty would consider creating you a Simple Minds forum...:spit:

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I wouldn't go so far as to say they are the most underrated band of all time (that title goes to the Jesus and Mary Chain), but i did used to love Simple Minds.

Their problem was Jim Kerr's head disappearing up his own (or was it Peter Gabriel's?) arse and joining the embarrassingly earnest back-slapping stadium rock brigade sometime in the late 80s. I like the Real Life album, but really they've done fuck all else since Once Upon a Time.

It's a shame, cos Sparkle in the Rain is one of the best albums of the 80s, and a lot of their early art school pomp rock has been a massive influence on the better new bands of today (Stellastarr for example).

BTW, if anyone uses Soulseek, i have some interesting early SM stuff - demos, live stuff, and some recent (very recent wink wink) stuff as well. My user name is Steve7. :)

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Isamu wrote: Jim Kerr is the fucking man.

maybe but his ex wife Patsy Kensit is fucking amazing:thumb:

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Steve wrote: I wouldn't go so far as to say they are the most underrated band of all time (that title goes to the Jesus and Mary Chain), but i did used to love Simple Minds.

Their problem was Jim Kerr's head disappearing up his own (or was it Peter Gabriel's?) arse and joining the embarrassingly earnest back-slapping stadium rock brigade sometime in the late 80s. I like the Real Life album, but really they've done fuck all else since Once Upon a Time.

It's a shame, cos Sparkle in the Rain is one of the best albums of the 80s, and a lot of their early art school pomp rock has been a massive influence on the better new bands of today (Stellastarr for example).

BTW, if anyone uses Soulseek, i have some interesting early SM stuff - demos, live stuff, and some recent (very recent wink wink) stuff as well. My user name is Steve7. :)

Just added you to my Soulseek list. Downloading some stuff, as we speek. :evil4:

my userid is: RianIam (big r and i)

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Bere wrote:

Nice inofficial website

Bere.....on that website, they have re-issues of New Gold Dream and Once Upon a Time on what appears to be DVDa(DVD Audio?) format on April 4th of this year. I cannot find any other links regarding the re-issues or how to purchase them. Can you help me out?

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I like their early stuff, Real to Real Cacophony, Empires And Dance, Sons and Fascination and Sister Feelings Call. I think they shared a lot (sound wise) with Joy Division without being clones, they were after all contemporaries. I don't so much like their later, more commercial stuff, too much like stadium rock for my liking.

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digitalwaters wrote: Do you think Spotty would consider creating you a Simple Minds forum...:spit:

Would be nice of him :laugh:

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Isamu wrote:

Bere wrote:

Nice inofficial website

Bere.....on that website, they have re-issues of New Gold Dream and Once Upon a Time on what appears to be DVDa(DVD Audio?) format on April 4th of this year. I cannot find any other links regarding the re-issues or how to purchase them. Can you help me out?

German Amazon has them

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AH! Sons and Fascination/Sisters Feeling Call, superb combo!

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Isamu wrote: Seriously....has there ever been a band that went from shining like a star in the mid 80s to being virtually unknown, the way Simple Minds has? Everyone's heard their anthem, Don't You Forget About Me, but if you ask people today if they've heard of tracks like Up On the Catwalk, The American, New Gold Dream or All the things She Said, they'd gaze at you like a deer in the headlights.

Why has Simple Minds' popularity faded so much since then? They, to me, are the greatest band to ever play music. Seriously....as much as I love New Order, they are nothing compared to Simple Minds.

I started listening to SM way back in 1989. I first heard Alive and Kicking and instantly fell in love. No other band caught my attention the way they did. I was absolutely SPELLBOUNDED by songs like All the Things She Said and Promised You a Miracle. I consider New Gold Dream(the album) absolute perfection, with Street Fighting Years running a very close second.

Yet despite all this, they continue to make music, releasing album after album and go virtually unnoticed except in places like their hometown of Scotland. Why is this? What is wrong with America? Why are Americans listening to shit like the Offspring and Coldplay, when a band like Simple Minds are still out there going unnoticed? Why have Simple Minds' album sales decreased over time, despite them being at least competent if not remarkable, and very valiant efforts?

What is your favorite Simple Minds album? And what kind of sound would you like them to return to/create? What direction would you encourage them to go in, to get umm, noticed again?

your post has a few contradictions , I aint criticising that , it's a trait most people have and lifes a bit more interestin for that, sure most people have heard the anthem has you describe it , but Jim Kerr didn't want it released initialy did he ? Everything they'd worked for was instantly overshadowed by a song they hadn't written , tracks like the american and new gold dream , love song was and is a great bass driven song , it was most often to be heard in places that had a Bowie / Roxy night , it could be heard on the old Temptation night at the Hac , NGD was a perfect pop album , but instead of following for want of a better term , a european muse , they seemed to go after the soundtrack and starship market and I think that was when the original fan base moved on and waited for Bauhaus to fuck up too , which they did when pete murphy decided he didn't want to be an eighties bowie and they covered Ziggy , which was seventies bowie which we'd already had . so I dont think people my age would stare at you like a deer about to be run over as you mentioned the band , they'd probably think back to love song and theme from great cities and think great dance tracks , didn't the singer turn into a twat .

not sure about their hometown of scotland , it's a country , gorra pricey parliament building too

you answer one of your own questions sales decrease , you say the albums are competent yet not remarkable ... now call me old fashioned but I want remarkable albums every time and if I cant get them I'll settle for a fuckin remarkable track like Turn , but do you want people to buy mediocre out of some sense of loyalty to a band who chased and got the dollar anyway ?

as for fav album at the time NGD , not heard it for a while so I may be rose colured tinged , best song overall, lovesong , in fact I'll play that in a moment along with Duel by propoganda which for me are immune to time

incidentaly I thought the new uk single was billy idol when I heard it last week , thing is I dont like billy idol post Gen-X and I thought fuck me, he aint as bad as usual , then the deejay said it was simpleminds which threw me a bit

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I worry about you Isamu. First The Mission, now the Sminds? :laugh:

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oldmonkey wrote: I worry about you Isamu. First The Mission, now the Sminds? :laugh:

Errr, not sure what kind of point you're trying to make monkey:confused2:

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