George Bush
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New Hitler 18 (86%)
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Man of God ( and if so, who would Jesus Bomb? ) 3 (14%)
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As an American from a staunchly blue city, I can say that GW Bush hasn't been Hitler, for the fact that he hasn't committed genocide. However, GW Bush is simply a moron with too much power who relies on his cabinet and his elders to help him out.
Well, he isn't half as bad as Hitler, but he's pretty bad. Certainly one of the very worst presidents the US has ever had, if not the worst. Why, he's even worse than Reagan, and perhaps even more incompetent. And THAT'S saying something, considering that good ole' Ronnie probably had Alzheimer's by the time his second term ended.
"They never stop thinking of ways of hurting America, and neither do we." - George W. Bush![]()
i agree, i can't stand him either and i find myself screaming at the TV screen or the newspaper when i read or hear about his policies that piss the hell out of me. but hitler? that's a little excessive. none of my students are required by law to join the 'bush youth,' for example. and while the republicans have control of both houses of congress, bush hasn't banned any political party. he hasn't started building a museum to the 'extinct race' (whichever that may be), either.
there are morons, and then there's hitler (we could possibly throw stalin and pol pot in there, as well). let's keep some perspective.
not to mention, bush is not smart enough to ever become a hitler even if he wanted to. which he doesn't, no matter how despicable some of us may find him.
Its hard to say,when this Punk twat has'nt yet finished his reign of terror ..who knows?history may yet mark him as the catalyst for something terrible..Hindsight is a wonderful thing when assessing HITLER'S LIFE AND CRIMES..Its up to the masses to show desent for this dangerous turkey you call president..History is there to be learned from..I hope, and like to think that people in general won't allow power pissed idiots to abuse their positions in democratic free society anymore...Perhaps that is naive to place faith in human progression,but its not unreasonable with the amount of information to be viewed objectivly
Boatraceface wrote: Its hard to say,when this Punk twat has'nt yet finished his reign of terror ..who knows?history may yet mark him as the catalyst for something terrible..Hindsight is a wonderful thing when assessing HITLER'S LIFE AND CRIMES..Its up to the masses to show desent for this dangerous turkey you call president..History is there to be learned from..I hope, and like to think that people in general won't allow power pissed idiots to abuse their positions in democratic free society anymore...Perhaps that is naive to place faith in human progression,but its not unreasonable with the amount of information to be viewed objectivly
i'd hardly say that the clinton era compared to weimar germany, though. even the neo-cons would have a hard time coming up with a retort to that one.
apples and oranges.
I didnt vote. Bush is not smart enough to be the evil genius that Hilter was.
I also think comparing bush to hilter is doing a disservice to the evil generated by hilter. Not one bone in my body repects, likes, or agrees with Bush but i would not compare him to the furher.
He's my waking nightmare and the most dangerous person on the planet.
Bin Laden is just a sick rich prick with a few nutters, he can kill an cause terror, but he does not consitute a threat to our entire species. Bush believes in fairy tales and has all the bombs under his control ( you may note that his fave book ends in fire).
Said it before and I will say it again, if you reject science you should never be given responsibility for anything technical. How can someone command nuclear forces when they REFUSE to believe the fules of those weapons were made inside dying suns.
It's time we took the power away from the uneducated religious freaks and gave them a nice field somewhere to be humble and pray in.
Steve Campbell wrote: He's my waking nightmare and the most dangerous person on the planet.
Bin Laden is just a sick rich prick with a few nutters, he can kill an cause terror, but he does not consitute a threat to our entire species. Bush believes in fairy tales and has all the bombs under his control ( you may note that his fave book ends in fire).
Said it before and I will say it again, if you reject science you should never be given responsibility for anything technical. How can someone command nuclear forces when they REFUSE to believe the fules of those weapons were made inside dying suns.
It's time we took the power away from the uneducated religious freaks and gave them a nice field somewhere to be humble and pray in.
I agree. I still have faith in the check and balances system in our gov't to keep dumbass in line. It always takes americans awhile to smarten up.
He's a figurehead, so I hate him. Now the people on his cabinet who actually run the country, them I fear.
Taboo # 7 wrote: He's Forrest Gump revisited...
.....except for the fact that GWB has an MBA from Harvard.
BTW, Jesus would have bombed the money changers in the temple.
Tex wrote:
Taboo # 7 wrote: He's Forrest Gump revisited...
.....except for the fact that GWB has an MBA from Harvard.
take your pick of sources. tsurumi is now professor of international business at baruch college, CUNY.
For 25 years, Yoshi Tsurumi, one of George W. Bush's professors at Harvard Business School, was content with his green-card status as a permanent legal resident of the United States. But Bush's ascension to the presidency in 2001 prompted the Japanese native to secure his American citizenship. The reason: to be able to speak out with the full authority of citizenship about why he believes Bush lacks the character and intellect to lead the world's oldest and most powerful democracy. "I don't remember all the students in detail unless I'm prompted by something," Tsurumi said in a telephone interview Wednesday. "But I always remember two types of students. One is the very excellent student, the type as a professor you feel honored to be working with. Someone with strong social values, compassion and intellect -- the very rare person you never forget. And then you remember students like George Bush, those who are totally the opposite." The future president was one of 85 first-year MBA students in Tsurumi's macroeconomic policies and international business class in the fall of 1973 and spring of 1974. Tsurumi was a visiting associate professor at Harvard Business School from January 1972 to August 1976; today, he is a professor of international business at Baruch College in New York. Trading as usual on his father's connections, Bush entered Harvard in 1973 for a two-year program. He'd just come off what George H.W. Bush had once called his eldest son's "nomadic years" -- partying, drifting from job to job, working on political campaigns in Florida and Alabama and, most famously, apparently not showing up for duty in the Alabama National Guard. Harvard Business School's rigorous teaching methods, in which the professor interacts aggressively with students, and students are encouraged to challenge each other sharply, offered important insights into Bush, Tsurumi said. In observing students' in-class performances, "you develop pretty good ideas about what are their weaknesses and strengths in terms of thinking, analysis, their prejudices, their backgrounds and other things that students reveal," he said. One of Tsurumi's standout students was Rep. Chris Cox, R-Calif., now the seventh-ranking member of the House Republican leadership. "I typed him as a conservative Republican with a conscience," Tsurumi said. "He never confused his own ideology with economics, and he didn't try to hide his ignorance of a subject in mumbo jumbo. He was what I call a principled conservative." (Though clearly a partisan one. On Wednesday, Cox called for a congressional investigation of the validity of documents that CBS News obtained for a story questioning Bush's attendance at Guard duty in Alabama.) Bush, by contrast, "was totally the opposite of Chris Cox," Tsurumi said. "He showed pathological lying habits and was in denial when challenged on his prejudices and biases. He would even deny saying something he just said 30 seconds ago. He was famous for that. Students jumped on him; I challenged him." When asked to explain a particular comment, said Tsurumi, Bush would respond, "Oh, I never said that." A White House spokeswoman did not return a phone call seeking comment. In 1973, as the oil and energy crisis raged, Tsurumi led a discussion on whether government should assist retirees and other people on fixed incomes with heating costs. Bush, he recalled, "made this ridiculous statement and when I asked him to explain, he said, 'The government doesn't have to help poor people -- because they are lazy.' I said, 'Well, could you explain that assumption?' Not only could he not explain it, he started backtracking on it, saying, 'No, I didn't say that.'" If Cox had been in the same class, Tsurumi said, "I could have asked him to challenge that and he would have demolished it. Not personally or emotionally, but intellectually." Bush once sneered at Tsurumi for showing the film "The Grapes of Wrath," based on John Steinbeck's novel of the Depression. "We were in a discussion of the New Deal, and he called Franklin Roosevelt's policies 'socialism.' He denounced labor unions, the Securities and Exchange Commission, Medicare, Social Security, you name it. He denounced the civil rights movement as socialism. To him, socialism and communism were the same thing. And when challenged to explain his prejudice, he could not defend his argument, either ideologically, polemically or academically." Students who challenged and embarrassed Bush in class would then become the subject of a whispering campaign by him, Tsurumi said. "In class, he couldn't challenge them. But after class, he sometimes came up to me in the hallway and started bad-mouthing those students who had challenged him. He would complain that someone was drinking too much. It was innuendo and lies. So that's how I knew, behind his smile and his smirk, that he was a very insecure, cunning and vengeful guy." Many of Tsurumi's students came from well-connected or wealthy families, but good manners prevented them from boasting about it, the professor said. But Bush seemed unabashed about the connections that had brought him to Harvard. "The other children of the rich and famous were at least well bred to the point of realizing universal values and standards of behavior," Tsurumi said. But Bush sometimes came late to class and often sat in the back row of the theater-like classroom, wearing a bomber jacket from the Texas Air National Guard and spitting chewing tobacco into a cup. "At first, I wondered, 'Who is this George Bush?' It's a very common name and I didn't know his background. And he was such a bad student that I asked him once how he got in. He said, 'My dad has good friends.'" Bush scored in the lowest 10 percent of the class.
he was just as snobby in prep school, as well. he'd only socialize with other kids from wealthy, well-established families.
Thank you, Michael, for bringing up Bush's "MBA" from Harvard. And let's not forget his undergrad "degree" from Yale. I love to bring those two examples up every time some Republican starts spouting off about how the poor should be held to a merit standard.![]()
Tex wrote: BTW, Jesus would have bombed the money changers in the temple.
Hmm, too bad they didn't have swords and spears in those days. He could have at least killed some moneychangers with those.
Oh wait, they did have swords and spears in those days. My bad.
AgentWood wrote:
Tex wrote:
Taboo # 7 wrote: He's Forrest Gump revisited...
.....except for the fact that GWB has an MBA from Harvard.
take your pick of sources. tsurumi is now professor of international business at baruch college, CUNY.
For 25 years, Yoshi Tsurumi, one of George W. Bush's professors at Harvard Business School, was content with his green-card status as a permanent legal resident of the United States. But Bush's ascension to the presidency in 2001 prompted the Japanese native to secure his American citizenship. The reason: to be able to speak out with the full authority of citizenship about why he believes Bush lacks the character and intellect to lead the world's oldest and most powerful democracy. "I don't remember all the students in detail unless I'm prompted by something," Tsurumi said in a telephone interview Wednesday. "But I always remember two types of students. One is the very excellent student, the type as a professor you feel honored to be working with. Someone with strong social values, compassion and intellect -- the very rare person you never forget. And then you remember students like George Bush, those who are totally the opposite." The future president was one of 85 first-year MBA students in Tsurumi's macroeconomic policies and international business class in the fall of 1973 and spring of 1974. Tsurumi was a visiting associate professor at Harvard Business School from January 1972 to August 1976; today, he is a professor of international business at Baruch College in New York. Trading as usual on his father's connections, Bush entered Harvard in 1973 for a two-year program. He'd just come off what George H.W. Bush had once called his eldest son's "nomadic years" -- partying, drifting from job to job, working on political campaigns in Florida and Alabama and, most famously, apparently not showing up for duty in the Alabama National Guard. Harvard Business School's rigorous teaching methods, in which the professor interacts aggressively with students, and students are encouraged to challenge each other sharply, offered important insights into Bush, Tsurumi said. In observing students' in-class performances, "you develop pretty good ideas about what are their weaknesses and strengths in terms of thinking, analysis, their prejudices, their backgrounds and other things that students reveal," he said. One of Tsurumi's standout students was Rep. Chris Cox, R-Calif., now the seventh-ranking member of the House Republican leadership. "I typed him as a conservative Republican with a conscience," Tsurumi said. "He never confused his own ideology with economics, and he didn't try to hide his ignorance of a subject in mumbo jumbo. He was what I call a principled conservative." (Though clearly a partisan one. On Wednesday, Cox called for a congressional investigation of the validity of documents that CBS News obtained for a story questioning Bush's attendance at Guard duty in Alabama.) Bush, by contrast, "was totally the opposite of Chris Cox," Tsurumi said. "He showed pathological lying habits and was in denial when challenged on his prejudices and biases. He would even deny saying something he just said 30 seconds ago. He was famous for that. Students jumped on him; I challenged him." When asked to explain a particular comment, said Tsurumi, Bush would respond, "Oh, I never said that." A White House spokeswoman did not return a phone call seeking comment. In 1973, as the oil and energy crisis raged, Tsurumi led a discussion on whether government should assist retirees and other people on fixed incomes with heating costs. Bush, he recalled, "made this ridiculous statement and when I asked him to explain, he said, 'The government doesn't have to help poor people -- because they are lazy.' I said, 'Well, could you explain that assumption?' Not only could he not explain it, he started backtracking on it, saying, 'No, I didn't say that.'" If Cox had been in the same class, Tsurumi said, "I could have asked him to challenge that and he would have demolished it. Not personally or emotionally, but intellectually." Bush once sneered at Tsurumi for showing the film "The Grapes of Wrath," based on John Steinbeck's novel of the Depression. "We were in a discussion of the New Deal, and he called Franklin Roosevelt's policies 'socialism.' He denounced labor unions, the Securities and Exchange Commission, Medicare, Social Security, you name it. He denounced the civil rights movement as socialism. To him, socialism and communism were the same thing. And when challenged to explain his prejudice, he could not defend his argument, either ideologically, polemically or academically." Students who challenged and embarrassed Bush in class would then become the subject of a whispering campaign by him, Tsurumi said. "In class, he couldn't challenge them. But after class, he sometimes came up to me in the hallway and started bad-mouthing those students who had challenged him. He would complain that someone was drinking too much. It was innuendo and lies. So that's how I knew, behind his smile and his smirk, that he was a very insecure, cunning and vengeful guy." Many of Tsurumi's students came from well-connected or wealthy families, but good manners prevented them from boasting about it, the professor said. But Bush seemed unabashed about the connections that had brought him to Harvard. "The other children of the rich and famous were at least well bred to the point of realizing universal values and standards of behavior," Tsurumi said. But Bush sometimes came late to class and often sat in the back row of the theater-like classroom, wearing a bomber jacket from the Texas Air National Guard and spitting chewing tobacco into a cup. "At first, I wondered, 'Who is this George Bush?' It's a very common name and I didn't know his background. And he was such a bad student that I asked him once how he got in. He said, 'My dad has good friends.'" Bush scored in the lowest 10 percent of the class.
Aside from his grade, this is article is what's know as "one man's opinion".
Speaking of opinions.............
Gore's Dubious School Record Author: By JENNIFER C. BRACERAS Date: 09/07/2000 Page: A15 Section: Op-Ed
JENNIFER C. BRACERAS Jennifer C. Braceras is an attorney and research fellow at Harvard Law School. Her column appears regularly in the Globe.
When will the liberal media stop treating left-wing ideology as a proxy for intelligence? For months the press has questioned the intellect of Republican candidate George W. Bush, while describing Al Gore as "serious," "intellectual" - even "wonkish."
The basis for the media's unfair attacks on Bush's intelligence is his 30-year-old Yale College transcript (purloined last fall and published by The New Yorker). Yet The Washington Post's subsequent revelation of Gore's unimpressive academic record has done little to alter the media's false portrayal of Gore as "the smartest kid in the class." It is a record that is worth reviewing, if only to debunk the myth of Gore as a serious student.
Gore's undergraduate transcript from Harvard is riddled with C's, including a C-minus in introductory economics, a D in one science course, and a C-plus in another. "In his sophomore year at Harvard," the Post reported, "Gore's grades were lower than any semester recorded on Bush's transcript from Yale." Moreover, Gore's graduate school record - consistently glossed over by the press - is nothing short of shameful. In 1971, Gore enrolled in Vanderbilt Divinity School where, according to Bill Turque, author of "Inventing Al Gore," he received F's in five of the eight classes he took over the course of three semesters. Not surprisingly, Gore did not receive a degree from the divinity school. Nor did Gore graduate from Vanderbilt Law School, where he enrolled for a brief time and received his fair share of C's. (Bush went on to earn an MBA from Harvard).
But whereas the liberal press has described Bush's college days as a time of misspent youth, media accounts of Gore's undergraduate years are grossly fawning. (The New York Times: "As Mr. Bush was frolicking around Yale, a young man named Al Gore was studying at Harvard"; "Harvard nurtured the part of [Gore] that is in love with the world of ideas." The New Republic: "At Harvard, Gore set himself formidable intellectual challenges.")
And then there is the laughable October issue of Psychology Today. As part of a cover story entitled, "Gore and Bush on the Couch," the magazine reports the results of a spurious "analysis" of 10 of the candidates speeches and/or interviews. The authors claim that the study "verifies" the popular stereotype that "Bush is not as deep a thinker as Gore."
Two pages later, readers will be shocked - shocked! - to learn that the magazine's (no doubt scientific) study of the candidates' facial gestures reveals that Gore is the "more serious, constrained, controlled, weighty, ponderous, [and] dominant of the two candidates." More ponderous, perhaps . . . but, please, spare me the pop psychology.
Biased reporters, however, are not the only ones to blame. Indeed, the vice president himself has cultivated this genius persona (one of many). Thus, he did not correct PBS News anchor Gwen Ifill when she referred to him as a graduate of Vanderbilt Law School. Even more significant was the line in Gore's convention acceptance speech in which he stated, "I know my own imperfections. I know that sometimes people say I'm too serious, that I talk too much substance and policy." Poor Al, he's just too smart for the job.
Of course, the stereotyping of conservative candidates as dumb and liberal candidates as "brilliant" is nothing new. During the 1950s, the media lionized Democrat Adlai Stevenson as an intellectual, while ridiculing Republican Dwight Eisenhower as an ineffectual simpleton. Back then, the members of the press knew full well that Stevenson attended Harvard Law School and, yet, had not received a degree. But the media gave Stevenson a pass. (Sound familiar?) Had resourceful journalists investigated, they might have learned (as we now know from Stevenson's biographer John Bartlow Martin) that Harvard Law School Dean Erwin Griswold had hidden Stevenson's transcript in a locked cabinet in his office. What was he hiding? Stevenson, the so-called "thinking man's candidate," had, in fact, flunked out of Harvard Law.
In the end, neither intellect nor academic performance is an especially important criterion by which to judge our presidents. Ronald Reagan and Harry Truman were no scholars, but they rank among the best presidents in our country's history. And what about many liberals' favorite president - Franklin Roosevelt? Social, popular, and famously unserious as an undergraduate at Harvard, FDR had an undistinguished academic record. Yet, later in life, Roosevelt's charisma and his ability to persuade, compromise, and lead helped him to become a "reformer with results."
This election is not an I.Q. test; it is about which candidate has better judgment. And that is why, despite the media's love affair with the celluloid image of Al Gore the policy-wonk, it is the affable, authentic, and sensible Bush who would make the better leader.
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bLuE oRdEr wrote:
Tex wrote: BTW, Jesus would have bombed the money changers in the temple.
Hmm, too bad they didn't have swords and spears in those days. He could have at least killed some moneychangers with those.
Oh wait, they did have swords and spears in those days. My bad.
No, Jesus did not use swords or spears. But, he did fashion a whip out of cords and drive *CRACK* the money changers from the temple. So, yeah, it was non-lethal force. But it was a projection of physical power nonetheless.
Tex wrote:
Aside from his grade, this is article is what's know as "one man's opinion".
when i taught high school international relations, my students could express their political views as they pleased (within the limits of school rules). however, if these views were not backed up by factual information and primary sources, their opinion is exactly that, an opinion. educators can distinguish which students are knowledgeable about subjects and which aren't. the piece by bush's former professor was not an opinion. it was based on the syllabus and rubric of the course, the extent of bush's knowledge, and class observation. this is how students are graded; he's correct--the high achievers stand out, but so do the low achievers and 'obnoxious' students.
as far as gore's college record--perhaps he received poor grades for the same reason. but that doesn't justify bush's behaviour or lack of knowledge about the subject at hand.
Just the evil in person can consider atom bombs as first strike weapons. And that's what they (Rumsfeld) do(es)...
Tex wrote:
bLuE oRdEr wrote:
Tex wrote: BTW, Jesus would have bombed the money changers in the temple.
Hmm, too bad they didn't have swords and spears in those days. He could have at least killed some moneychangers with those.
Oh wait, they did have swords and spears in those days. My bad.
No, Jesus did not use swords or spears. But, he did fashion a whip out of cords and drive *CRACK* the money changers from the temple. So, yeah, it was non-lethal force. But it was a projection of physical power nonetheless.
Well, that settles it then. Bombs away! I vote for nuking the middle east; the fundamentalist Muslims are always interpreting their holy book to justify their violence.