John Lennon

Shug wrote: Has anyone got Jennon Lennon Live In New York 1972 on DVD?

Been after this for ages but never thought to ask on here, if anywan can help shugsludden@hotmail.com

You PISSED

It's a phase he's going through MICK

Lennon was a wanker

He only started giving it the peace shit when he had loads of money.

What was that Rolls Royce about? If that wasnt materialistic decadent look-at-me shite then what is?

Hippy fookin Bling

Sorry Shug mate

John Lennon had the best voice in rock. Period.

bLuE oRdEr wrote: John Lennon had the best voice in rock. Period.

eer, but he never rocked Bluey

Erm...

A Hard Days Night Help Ticket To Ride

bLuE oRdEr wrote: Erm...

A Hard Days Night Help Ticket To Ride

are you being serious?

bLuE oRdEr wrote: John Lennon had the best voice in rock. Period.

mAYBE................but who the fcuk is JENNON LENNON that SHUGZV mantioned?:D

patrick stewart appreciation society wrote:

bLuE oRdEr wrote: Erm...

A Hard Days Night Help Ticket To Ride

are you being serious?

Those were straight-ahead rock songs.

Most of his music was more experimental. He once said in an interview that it bugged him that in the studio, his songs were always given the experimental treatment, while McCartney's songs were always given the pop song treatment. In the end, his work holds up better, because it explored new territory. But his music, for the most part after about 1965, also wasn't straight-ahead rock songs. There was always something more introspective, more poetic, in his work after 1965.

Rocket Mick wrote:

bLuE oRdEr wrote: John Lennon had the best voice in rock. Period.

mAYBE................but who the fcuk is JENNON LENNON that SHUGZV mantioned?:D

Excellent point, ROCKET! We'll have to have Shug sort that one out. Probably a third cousin once removed.

bLuE oRdEr wrote:

patrick stewart appreciation society wrote:

bLuE oRdEr wrote: Erm...

A Hard Days Night Help Ticket To Ride

are you being serious?

Those were straight-ahead rock songs.

Most of his music was more experimental. He once said in an interview that it bugged him that in the studio, his songs were always given the experimental treatment, while McCartney's songs were always given the pop song treatment. In the end, his work holds up better, because it explored new territory. But his music, for the most part after about 1965, also wasn't straight-ahead rock songs. There was always something more introspective, more poetic, in his work after 1965.

well neither him nor the beatles or any of the off shoots, wings macca solo etc are my cup of tea. i find lennon one of the if not THE most over-rated artists ever. i've tried to listen to him and i just find him boring.

patrick stewart appreciation society wrote:

bLuE oRdEr wrote:

patrick stewart appreciation society wrote:

bLuE oRdEr wrote: Erm...

A Hard Days Night Help Ticket To Ride

are you being serious?

Those were straight-ahead rock songs.

Most of his music was more experimental. He once said in an interview that it bugged him that in the studio, his songs were always given the experimental treatment, while McCartney's songs were always given the pop song treatment. In the end, his work holds up better, because it explored new territory. But his music, for the most part after about 1965, also wasn't straight-ahead rock songs. There was always something more introspective, more poetic, in his work after 1965.

well neither him nor the beatles or any of the off shoots, wings macca solo etc are my cup of tea. i find lennon one of the if not THE most over-rated artists ever. i've tried to listen to him and i just find him boring.

You're listening out of context. If you were around then, they would have been terribly exciting for you, because there was NOTHING happening musically until they cme along. Look at the charts just before the Beatles charted. I don't know who was on there, but I can assure you it was crap. The Beatles vchanged that, and after them came the Stones and the rest of the British invasion. They changed music from pre-fab teen idols singing crap songs pounded out by ADULTS working in song-writing houses in New York, to rock bands singing ROCK songs that the band members wrote themselves. Unheard of (not counting some of the black rock 'n' rollers from the fifties that the Beatles so admired)until the Beatles came along.

Post-Beatles, I think their music suffered artistically, Macca's worst of all.

bLuE oRdEr wrote:

patrick stewart appreciation society wrote:

bLuE oRdEr wrote:

patrick stewart appreciation society wrote:

bLuE oRdEr wrote: Erm...

A Hard Days Night Help Ticket To Ride

are you being serious?

Those were straight-ahead rock songs.

Most of his music was more experimental. He once said in an interview that it bugged him that in the studio, his songs were always given the experimental treatment, while McCartney's songs were always given the pop song treatment. In the end, his work holds up better, because it explored new territory. But his music, for the most part after about 1965, also wasn't straight-ahead rock songs. There was always something more introspective, more poetic, in his work after 1965.

well neither him nor the beatles or any of the off shoots, wings macca solo etc are my cup of tea. i find lennon one of the if not THE most over-rated artists ever. i've tried to listen to him and i just find him boring.

You're listening out of context. If you were around then, they would have been terribly exciting for you, because there was NOTHING happening musically until they cme along. Look at the charts just before the Beatles charted. I don't know who was on there, but I can assure you it was crap. The Beatles vchanged that, and after them came the Stones and the rest of the British invasion. They changed music from pre-fab teen idols singing crap songs pounded out by ADULTS working in song-writing houses in New York, to rock bands singing ROCK songs that the band members wrote themselves. Unheard of (not counting some of the black rock 'n' rollers from the fifties that the Beatles so admired)until the Beatles came along.

Post-Beatles, I think their music suffered artistically, Macca's worst of all.

how can i be listening out of context? music is a personal thing it either clicks with you or it doesn't, the Beatles and such affiliates don't click with me.

If you were around when they broke, it would have clicked with you. There's a cultural context-- the youth culture of the baby boomers-- that the Beatles clicked with.

The Beatles music needs to be placed in the temporal context in which it was released. At that time, it was cutting edge. You're listening to it in a completely different context and saying it doesn't click with you. That's OK, but it's still out of context. Take New Order's best song, whatever that might be, and play it to someone young 40 years after it was released. They'll have the same reaction to it, that it doesn't click with them, because it'll be out of it's cultural context.

Lennon's one of those "love him or hate him" figures in RNR, he did some incredible stuff with the Beatles but started getting indulgent when Yoko suddenly appeared (she didn't break up the Beatles, but she widened the rift between John and the other three). I've always held him up as a musical god myself, it doesn't hurt that I have the same birthday and identify with the whole "absent father" situation. Plus, the fact that Sir Paul has proven himself to be such a dickhead ever since helps settle "who is your favorite Beatle?" polls for me

As for "Live In New York", Shug, I used to have the CD, but it doesn't have the same effect as watching the performance (which I saw on VH1 back before they got taken over by "I Love The Insert-Any-Decade-Here" shows). I don't have it anymore, and I haven't seen any DVD of the performance around

bLuE oRdEr wrote: If you were around when they broke, it would have clicked with you. There's a cultural context-- the youth culture of the baby boomers-- that the Beatles clicked with.

The Beatles music needs to be placed in the temporal context in which it was released. At that time, it was cutting edge. You're listening to it in a completely different context and saying it doesn't click with you. That's OK, but it's still out of context. Take New Order's best song, whatever that might be, and play it to someone young 40 years after it was released. They'll have the same reaction to it, that it doesn't click with them, because it'll be out of it's cultural context.

i don't agree with you at all about the 'if you we're there' at all but...

i can see your a big fan of the beatles and very passionate about them so i can't be bothered getting into an argument about the 'then and now'.

we can just leave it as you like them i don't

I was there when they first made it in the U.S., so I remember.

If you appreciate that your favorite bands write their own songs, and that those songs speak to something in you, instead of having some 60 year old professional songwriter write what he thinks will get you to shell out for some phony pre-packaged teen idol's latest record, that was the Beatles' doing.

But you're right, no point arguing about it. I don't really listen anymore anyway, but I do have a fond spot in my heart for them.

Now New Order, there's a band I listen to every day.

Lennon was just a dirty rotten scouser..

but I have Manc tinted specs

Homer Simpson [playing with Ned Flanders' Beatles bobblehead dolls]: "Look, I'm Brian Epstein!"

I was there for Vanilla Ice, so if your favorite artist are white kids from the suburbs who want to pretend they're black and from the street, and not some 60-year-old trying to act all "hip" and write songs for those performers, you really have Ice to thank for that :p

From the Brill Building:

I'm Vanilla Ice and I'm here to say, support hose really make my day.

yea,he was all-peace man.he was bad really.didnt lennon once mug a german!!!! emmmmmmmmmmm wait a minute,actually

bansheeman wrote: yea,he was all-peace man.he was bad really.didnt lennon once mug a german!!!! emmmmmmmmmmm wait a minute,actually

If by "mug" you mean "have sex with" and "a german" mean "Astrid Kirchherr, the female photographer who documented their Hamburg days", then no, that was Stuart Sutcliffe.

But Lennon early on was a bit of an ass. He changed as he got older, and he didn't deserve to be taken so soon. Paul might've, but not John :p

Taboo # 7 wrote:

bansheeman wrote: yea,he was all-peace man.he was bad really.didnt lennon once mug a german!!!! emmmmmmmmmmm wait a minute,actually

If by "mug" you mean "have sex with" and "a german" mean "Astrid Kirchherr, the female photographer who documented their Hamburg days", then no, that was Stuart Sutcliffe.

But Lennon early on was a bit of an ass. He changed as he got older, and he didn't deserve to be taken so soon. Paul might've, but not John :p

no,i am sure i read that he did actually MUG someone then again whoopy goldberg 'ugly'mugs us all whenever she appears on screen

And Macca's Band on the Run is up there with em all...Don't laugh,just cos Wings were Gash..B on the R is the best either did,two songs in one,needs to be listened to all the way through to be appreciated.I am sooo uncool I know.Download it and like my mates you will be won over too.Its a right laugh,but class too..I would'nt recommend any other WINGS offerings tho,don't get me wrong..Band on the Run is quality

Beatles? Lennon? Dylan?

You're a bit of a softie, aren't you Shug?

His Holiness, The Pope wrote: Beatles? Lennon? Dylan?

You're a bit of a softie, aren't you Shug?

Yes he is a Big Softie :D

Shug wrote: So basically no bastard has this DVD then? ;)

I never used to rate Lennon on his own at all, but me mate Mark had Legend and continually brought it round for parties (in between neworder and all my Madchester stuff) and I fucking loved Mother the more I heard it, he was ace at the autobiographical material, in the same way Help was brilliant for The Beatles.

I went on a neworder type trek with Lennon and started off by buying the Plastic Ono Band album then Imagine and so on. He wasn't the nicest of people at times, but then again, we've probably all been caught short once or twice with regrettable incidents, I know I have!

Anyway to me, Lennon's solo stuff is right up there with the best of The Beatles, and I have all of The Beatles albums I think. It's a shame he was taken away, cos he was writing some of his best material at the time, Nobody Told Me and Watching The Wheels are up there with the best stuff he recorded either by himself or with the band.

My dad used to have live in NY, and I remember watching it and thinking it was shite, but having seen snippets on the TV since I would really like to get masel a copy.

Listen to his vocals on Do You Want To Know A Secret, a crap song from 1962, I think. Listen to the part where he sings "Say the words you want to hear, I'm in love with you." The best voice in rock. Listen to his vocals on Mother. He was in primal scream therapy at the time, and he incorporated that into Mother, so some of it is marred by the primal screaming, but his vocals are superb.

Lennon's critics here are totally misunderstanding the man. He wasn't some hypocritical peace & love type going around mugging people in his Rolls Royce. He was a working class kid from Liverpool with a father who ran out on the family and a mother who died when he was young; he started out a Rocker from the streets and transcended that to become an introspective poet and an advocate for peace. He was just a human being, with human faults, who did his best to rise above his faults. For the most part, he succeeded; sometimes he failed. He was just a human being.

I was gutted beyond words when he was murdered.

Shanker wrote:

His Holiness, The Pope wrote: Beatles? Lennon? Dylan?

You're a bit of a softie, aren't you Shug?

Yes he is a Big Softie :D

Big? You've obviously never stood next to him. :D

bLuE oRdEr wrote:

Shug wrote: So basically no bastard has this DVD then? ;)

I never used to rate Lennon on his own at all, but me mate Mark had Legend and continually brought it round for parties (in between neworder and all my Madchester stuff) and I fucking loved Mother the more I heard it, he was ace at the autobiographical material, in the same way Help was brilliant for The Beatles.

I went on a neworder type trek with Lennon and started off by buying the Plastic Ono Band album then Imagine and so on. He wasn't the nicest of people at times, but then again, we've probably all been caught short once or twice with regrettable incidents, I know I have!

Anyway to me, Lennon's solo stuff is right up there with the best of The Beatles, and I have all of The Beatles albums I think. It's a shame he was taken away, cos he was writing some of his best material at the time, Nobody Told Me and Watching The Wheels are up there with the best stuff he recorded either by himself or with the band.

My dad used to have live in NY, and I remember watching it and thinking it was shite, but having seen snippets on the TV since I would really like to get masel a copy.

Listen to his vocals on Do You Want To Know A Secret, a crap song from 1962, I think. Listen to the part where he sings "Say the words you want to hear, I'm in love with you." The best voice in rock. Listen to his vocals on Mother. He was in primal scream therapy at the time, and he incorporated that into Mother, so some of it is marred by the primal screaming, but his vocals are superb.

Lennon's critics here are totally misunderstanding the man. He wasn't some hypocritical peace & love type going around mugging people in his Rolls Royce. He was a working class kid from Liverpool with a father who ran out on the family and a mother who died when he was young; he started out a Rocker from the streets and transcended that to become an introspective poet and an advocate for peace. He was just a human being, with human faults, who did his best to rise above his faults. For the most part, he succeeded; sometimes he failed. He was just a human being.

I was gutted beyond words when he was murdered.

"Do You Want To Know A Secret" was a George vocal, actually... (I made the same mistake for years, and considering how close George is in mimicing John, it's natural to assume so. But George found his own voice thankfully).

Anyway, all this Lennon talk has forced me to go back to my music files and make a "Lennon playlist". It was going to be "best of Beatles and Solo" according to my tastes, but ended up being pretty much some of my favorite John vocals during the Beatles years. I might try a more balanced attempt later (and post a list of the first one, so you can say "hey, that's a great list!" or "Gosh, my thumb is great!" or even "Man, I didn't even know my toes were on my feet!")

Harrison was the best voice in rock. period. :p

bLuE oRdEr wrote: Listen to his vocals on Do You Want To Know A Secret, a crap song from 1962, I think. Listen to the part where he sings "Say the words you want to hear, I'm in love with you." The best voice in rock.

Phhhh....... everybody knows it's George Harrison's vocal.

In early days Harrison tried to imitate either Lennon or Mccartney on Beatles records, hence the similarity.

Okay, my list (with brief explanations for some of the choices)

Twist and Shout

Please Please Me

I Want To Hold Your Hand

Baby, It's You (very tender Lennon vocal here)

Please Mr. Postman (very energetic take on a warhorse of early rock, with an inspired call- response between Lennon and the other two)

This Boy (achingly earnest in the middle, with John solo for the first time in the song)

A Hard Day's Night

I Don't Want to Spoil the Party (so-so track from "Beatles for Sale" that always stuck with me as more than just what it purports to be, perhaps)

I'm A Loser (in the same vein as previous, but a bit more well-known)

Help!

You've Got to Hide Your Love Away (somewhat too Dylan-esque in places, but brave for 1965 mainstream pop)

It's Only Love (nice love song, piffle really, but Lennon sounds great)

In My Life

Norwegian Wood (probably my favorite Beatles song lyric-wise. Very smart and "daring" for 1965)

And Your Bird Can Sing (easy to dismiss, maybe, but a great performance)

A Day In The Life

Yer Blues

Dear Prudence

Happiness Is A Warm Gun (ironic considering what happened later, but a worthy tune nonetheless)

I Am The Walrus (in a wrestling match between this and "Strawberry Fields", this has to win just for the whole "Edgar Allan Poe being beaten by penguins" line)

All You Need Is Love

Baby You're a Rich Man (nice compare-contrast between these two)

Oh! Darling (better than the overrated "Come Together" when it comes to John's Abbey Road contributions)

The Ballad of John and Yoko

You Know My Name (Look Up The Number) (bizarre b-side that I think reflects John's odd sense of humor best)

I may try for a more balanced list later (beatles and solo)

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bLuE oRdEr wrote: Listen to his vocals on Do You Want To Know A Secret, a crap song from 1962, I think. Listen to the part where he sings "Say the words you want to hear, I'm in love with you." The best voice in rock.

Phhhh....... everybody knows it's George Harrison's vocal.

OK, so George Harrison was imitating John Lennon, the best voice in rock. The sincerest form of flattery. And he did an outstanding job.

By the way, when Harrison found his own voice, and his own style of playing, he became quite outstanding in his own right. His solo work was superb at times.

Taboo # 7 wrote: Okay, my list (with brief explanations for some of the choices)

Twist and Shout

Please Please Me

I Want To Hold Your Hand

Baby, It's You (very tender Lennon vocal here)

Please Mr. Postman (very energetic take on a warhorse of early rock, with an inspired call- response between Lennon and the other two)

This Boy (achingly earnest in the middle, with John solo for the first time in the song)

A Hard Day's Night

I Don't Want to Spoil the Party (so-so track from "Beatles for Sale" that always stuck with me as more than just what it purports to be, perhaps)

I'm A Loser (in the same vein as previous, but a bit more well-known)

Help!

You've Got to Hide Your Love Away (somewhat too Dylan-esque in places, but brave for 1965 mainstream pop)

It's Only Love (nice love song, piffle really, but Lennon sounds great)

In My Life

Norwegian Wood (probably my favorite Beatles song lyric-wise. Very smart and "daring" for 1965)

And Your Bird Can Sing (easy to dismiss, maybe, but a great performance)

A Day In The Life

Yer Blues

Dear Prudence

Happiness Is A Warm Gun (ironic considering what happened later, but a worthy tune nonetheless)

I Am The Walrus (in a wrestling match between this and "Strawberry Fields", this has to win just for the whole "Edgar Allan Poe being beaten by penguins" line)

All You Need Is Love

Baby You're a Rich Man (nice compare-contrast between these two)

Oh! Darling (better than the overrated "Come Together" when it comes to John's Abbey Road contributions)

The Ballad of John and Yoko

You Know My Name (Look Up The Number) (bizarre b-side that I think reflects John's odd sense of humor best)

I may try for a more balanced list later (beatles and solo)

My dear... there's no Don't Let Me Down???

bLuE oRdEr wrote:

|| | ||| 6217|| 8 || 3 wrote:

bLuE oRdEr wrote: Listen to his vocals on Do You Want To Know A Secret, a crap song from 1962, I think. Listen to the part where he sings "Say the words you want to hear, I'm in love with you." The best voice in rock.

Phhhh....... everybody knows it's George Harrison's vocal.

OK, so George Harrison was imitating John Lennon, the best voice in rock. The sincerest form of flattery. And he did an outstanding job.

By the way, when Harrison found his own voice, and his own style of playing, he became quite outstanding in his own right. His solo work was superb at times.

Wheras Ringo still struggles to make intelligle sounds come out of his mouth

Just kidding...some of Ringo's better-known solo stuff is pretty good.

And we all know who the greatest voice in rock belongs to...

[note: I was going to post a picture of one of the following: David Hasselhoff/Neil Diamond/Ray Stevens/Tom Waits, but I figured that was just cheap and easy laughes. And it might offend some people. And it might open the door to countless disucssions of how Stevens'"The Streak (They Call Me)" revolutionized rock and addressed for the first time the short-lived craze of public streaking. So I'm taking the high road this time, folks. Don't get used to it, but do thank me later if you please :p )

Oh Darling is sung by McCartney... phhhh.... what an ignorance...

Having said all that, I am not a Beatles fan. I prefer punk rock.

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Taboo # 7 wrote: Okay, my list (with brief explanations for some of the choices)

Twist and Shout

Please Please Me

I Want To Hold Your Hand

Baby, It's You (very tender Lennon vocal here)

Please Mr. Postman (very energetic take on a warhorse of early rock, with an inspired call- response between Lennon and the other two)

This Boy (achingly earnest in the middle, with John solo for the first time in the song)

A Hard Day's Night

I Don't Want to Spoil the Party (so-so track from "Beatles for Sale" that always stuck with me as more than just what it purports to be, perhaps)

I'm A Loser (in the same vein as previous, but a bit more well-known)

Help!

You've Got to Hide Your Love Away (somewhat too Dylan-esque in places, but brave for 1965 mainstream pop)

It's Only Love (nice love song, piffle really, but Lennon sounds great)

In My Life

Norwegian Wood (probably my favorite Beatles song lyric-wise. Very smart and "daring" for 1965)

And Your Bird Can Sing (easy to dismiss, maybe, but a great performance)

A Day In The Life

Yer Blues

Dear Prudence

Happiness Is A Warm Gun (ironic considering what happened later, but a worthy tune nonetheless)

I Am The Walrus (in a wrestling match between this and "Strawberry Fields", this has to win just for the whole "Edgar Allan Poe being beaten by penguins" line)

All You Need Is Love

Baby You're a Rich Man (nice compare-contrast between these two)

Oh! Darling (better than the overrated "Come Together" when it comes to John's Abbey Road contributions)

The Ballad of John and Yoko

You Know My Name (Look Up The Number) (bizarre b-side that I think reflects John's odd sense of humor best)

I may try for a more balanced list later (beatles and solo)

My dear... there's no Don't Let Me Down???

Nah, doesn't quite...*do it* for me (for some reason, I felt the urge to put a pregnant pause in the response. Then again, it doesn't really work in writing...so just ignore it.)

Anyway, I might go ahead and do the list now...or be lazy and wait 'til tomorrow after I get off work. I gotta do something with the two blank CDs I have left, if my CD player will actually read and play them

|| | ||| 6217|| 8 || 3 wrote: Oh Darling is sung by McCartney... phhhh.... what an ignorance...

Dammit, I'm exposed as the secret Macca lover that I am

For some reason I thought it was a Lennon song...shows what I know, Mr. "Number One Beatles Expert" over here

Oh Darling is McCartney's exercise on Little Richard's vocal technique. So is John Fogerty's Travelin' Band.

Taboo # 7 wrote:

|| | ||| 6217|| 8 || 3 wrote: Oh Darling is sung by McCartney... phhhh.... what an ignorance...

Dammit, I'm exposed as the secret Macca lover that I am

For some reason I thought it was a Lennon song...shows what I know, Mr. "Number One Beatles Expert" over here

I guess you can be sure about the Ballad of John and Yoko

Taboo # 7 wrote: I Want To Hold Your Hand

A teenage love song, but if you weren't there when it was released, you don't know the emotions it taps when you hear it.

"Oh yeah you've got that something, I think you understand, When I see that something, I want to hold your hand"

The Stones resonded with "Let's spend the night together." :p

You've Got to Hide Your Love Away (somewhat too Dylan-esque in places, but brave for 1965 mainstream pop)

Exactly what I meant by PS listening out of context. The adult commentators thought the Beatles were just a passing teenage fad; insetad, they transformed themselves from teen pop idols (Epstein's makeover) to artists. Poets. Dylan ent electric because of the Beatles. And the Beatles went folk because of Dylan. This was the result.

Norwegian Wood (probably my favorite Beatles song lyric-wise. Very smart and "daring" for 1965)

Again, the Beatles were cutting edge. Like Blue Monday was cutting edge in 1983.

Happiness Is A Warm Gun (ironic considering what happened later, but a worthy tune nonetheless)

Another great Lennon vocal.

I Am The Walrus (in a wrestling match between this and "Strawberry Fields", this has to win just for the whole "Edgar Allan Poe being beaten by penguins" line)

And another.

You forgot I'm only sleeping off Revolver. A classic Lennon song.

|| | ||| 6217|| 8 || 3 wrote: Oh Darling is McCartney's exercise on Little Richard's vocal technique. So is John Fogerty's Travelin' Band.

McCartney was always a HUGE Little Richard fan.

Glad I didn't include any comment alongside "Oh! Darling" like (Lennon's vocal was superb here, almost as if he's channeling bandmate Paul)

I thought about "I'm Only Sleeping", but it's always been just on the periphery of Beatles album tracks that I recommend people listen to (people who might have "gotten into" the Beatles because of Number Ones (I despise those people, btw).

It's a good song, but never really struck me as "this should be on a future list of favorite John performances with the band, albeit with a stupid mistake over 'Oh Darling' which is actually Paul's performance". Nope, the thought never crossed my mind

If anyone needs stereo versions off the vinyl, I have recorded some Beatles records onto a CD.

I'm Only Sleeping is a classic Lennon tune in every sense of the word-- lyrically, musically, the experimental backwards looped instrumental at the end; it's the perfect Lennon song.

bLuE oRdEr wrote: I'm Only Sleeping is a classic Lennon tune in every sense of the word-- lyrically, musically, the experimental backwards looped instrumental at the end; it's the perfect Lennon song.

I may concur. Have you heard the vibraphone version?

No.

It's instrumental. Can be found on Anthology.

Two more Lennon classics from Revolver:

She Said She Said Tomorrow Never Knows

Here's a list of my favourite artists (who influenced me or only entertained).

FOREWORD

It doesn't mean that I still listen to some of these artists on daily basis. JD & NO are excluded for obvious reasons.

KraftwerkThe Sex PistolsElvis PresleyThe Velvet UndergroundThe ClashFuture Sound Of LondonFront 242Dead Can DanceEddie CochranThe BeatlesThe KinksThe Beach BoysPet Shop BoysUltravoxLadytronThe ShamenThe Happy MondaysUltravoxLittle RichardChuck BerryThe FallLeftfieldBlurGeri HalliwellThe Crystal Method808 StateAmanda LearABBACreedence Clearwater RevivalThe Hollies

Thought this was amusing when it made the rounds a few days ago (The FBI was releasing files on those they considered "Communist subversives" in the entertainment industry). Haven't read all of this, but it's just great to know that the FBI used to waste their time even less efficently than when they investigated Clinton's blowjob and not the unususally high number of young Arab men enrolling in flight schools

FBI thought Lennon was too stoned to start a revolution By David Usborne in New York Published: 23 September 2005 It was apparently with much relief that the FBI had a sudden revelation about the former Beatle John Lennon, back in 1972. For months the agency had been fretting that the singer-turned-activist was preparing to disrupt the Republican National Convention in Miami. Then somebody said it: Lennon was far too stoned to be a real threat. The moment when the FBI concluded that pot had got the better of the late rock star is recorded in one of a myriad of files on deceased celebrities released by the US government this week under freedom of information statutes.The same collection of papers reveals how far the agency went to spy on other celebrities, ranging from Marilyn Monroe - supposedly a Communist - to Liberace, who apparently had a gambling problem.There has never been any secret about the preoccupation of the US government with Lennon after his arrival in America from Britain with his second wife, Yoko Ono, in 1971. Their political views and high-profile activism - including the famous Montreal "bed-in" in which they expounded on world peace while wearing pyjamas - caused deep suspicion in the Nixon administration.The surveillance only really ended in 1976 after Lennon won his battle with the Immigration and Naturalisation Service for the right to remain in the US. In possession of his precious green card he vanished into virtual seclusion with his wife at their apartment in the Dakota Building in Manhattan - the scene of his murderfour years later.In one memorandum from 1972 an FBI agent writes that Lennon wanted a visa extension only so he could "engage in disruptive activities surrounding the Republican convention that renominated Richard Nixon for a second term.But an informant advised the FBI not to get so exercised about the singer from Liverpool. He said that although Lennon "appears to be radically oriented", he did not give the impression of being seriously committed to any cause, "since he is constantly under the influence of narcotics".The travails of Lennon as he tried to make America his new home through the 1970s while battling against the suspicions of its government will be explored in a new documentary film.Due for release in the middle of next year, The US vs John Lennon, to be directed by David Leaf, is described as a chronicle of the surveillance of the ex-Beatle until 1976, when a Democrat, Jimmy Carter, won the presidency. Yoko Ono, who still lives in the same Dakota Building apartment, 25 years after her husband's death, has co-operated on the project. She was also involved in a Broadway musical, Lennon, that opened to poor reviews six weeks ago. The musical lingers on Lennon's battle to win residency in the US. The show failed to impress either critics or theatre-goers and will close after a final performance tomorrow.This week, the BBC revealed that in November it plans to broadcast for the first time in Britain an hour-long interview that was given by Lennon to Jann Wenner, the founder of Rolling Stone magazine, just after the break-up of the Beatles. The interview will be broadcast on Radio 4. It was apparently with much relief that the FBI had a sudden revelation about the former Beatle John Lennon, back in 1972. For months the agency had been fretting that the singer-turned-activist was preparing to disrupt the Republican National Convention in Miami. Then somebody said it: Lennon was far too stoned to be a real threat. The moment when the FBI concluded that pot had got the better of the late rock star is recorded in one of a myriad of files on deceased celebrities released by the US government this week under freedom of information statutes.The same collection of papers reveals how far the agency went to spy on other celebrities, ranging from Marilyn Monroe - supposedly a Communist - to Liberace, who apparently had a gambling problem.There has never been any secret about the preoccupation of the US government with Lennon after his arrival in America from Britain with his second wife, Yoko Ono, in 1971. Their political views and high-profile activism - including the famous Montreal "bed-in" in which they expounded on world peace while wearing pyjamas - caused deep suspicion in the Nixon administration.The surveillance only really ended in 1976 after Lennon won his battle with the Immigration and Naturalisation Service for the right to remain in the US. In possession of his precious green card he vanished into virtual seclusion with his wife at their apartment in the Dakota Building in Manhattan - the scene of his murderfour years later.In one memorandum from 1972 an FBI agent writes that Lennon wanted a visa extension only so he could "engage in disruptive activities surrounding the Republican convention that renominated Richard Nixon for a second term.But an informant advised the FBI not to get so exercised about the singer from Liverpool. He said that although Lennon "appears to be radically oriented", he did not give the impression of being seriously committed to any cause, "since he is constantly under the influence of narcotics".The travails of Lennon as he tried to make America his new home through the 1970s while battling against the suspicions of its government will be explored in a new documentary film.Due for release in the middle of next year, The US vs John Lennon, to be directed by David Leaf, is described as a chronicle of the surveillance of the ex-Beatle until 1976, when a Democrat, Jimmy Carter, won the presidency. Yoko Ono, who still lives in the same Dakota Building apartment, 25 years after her husband's death, has co-operated on the project. She was also involved in a Broadway musical, Lennon, that opened to poor reviews six weeks ago. The musical lingers on Lennon's battle to win residency in the US. The show failed to impress either critics or theatre-goers and will close after a final performance tomorrow.This week, the BBC revealed that in November it plans to broadcast for the first time in Britain an hour-long interview that was given by Lennon to Jann Wenner, the founder of Rolling Stone magazine, just after the break-up of the Beatles. The interview will be broadcast on Radio 4.

They keep you doped with religion and sex and tv. And, uhh, dope.

bLuE oRdEr wrote: They keep you doped with religion and sex and tv. And, uhh, dope.

Mr. Mysterioso, you know it better. You've got a degree.

L'Angelo Misterioso-- which Beatle, Mr. Barcode?

sorry I'm unconscious.

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Although he was uncredited on the White Album, Eric Clapton played lead guitar on George Harrison's most famous song, While My Guitar Gently Weeps. Later, George played on Cream's last studio album, Goodbye Cream; he was credited as L'Angelo Misterioso.

bLuE oRdEr wrote:

|| | ||| 6217|| 8 || 3 wrote: sorry I'm unconscious.

Although he was uncredited on the White Album, Eric Clapton played lead guitar on George Harrison's most famous song, While My Guitar Gently Weeps. Later, George played on Cream's last studio album, Goodbye Cream; he was credited as L'Angelo Misterioso.

I am well aware of Clapton's contributions on the White Album. But I don't go to Clapton's realm. Fortunately this man is far beyond my interest.

Happy birthday, btw!

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Danke Schön!

BTW, Shug, have you got a hold of the DVD?