Has anyone got Jennon Lennon Live In New York 1972 on DVD?
Been after this for ages but never thought to ask on here, if anywan can help shugsludden@hotmail.com 
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Shug wrote: Has anyone got Jennon Lennon Live In New York 1972 on DVD?
Been after this for ages but never thought to ask on here, if anywan can help shugsludden@hotmail.com
You PISSED
Lennon was a wanker
He only started giving it the peace shit when he had loads of money.
What was that Rolls Royce about? If that wasnt materialistic decadent look-at-me shite then what is?
Hippy fookin Bling
Sorry Shug mate 
Nae bother, I am still hoping some kind soul's gonnae sort me out though :D
Going through a big stage of collecting music DVD's other than JD/NO/Electronic.....I know, I know. I'm a cunt ;)
I have quite a few Dylan / Beatles / Lennon / Faces stuff to trade with.
Rocket Mick wrote:
Shug wrote: Has anyone got Jennon Lennon Live In New York 1972 on DVD?
Been after this for ages but never thought to ask on here, if anywan can help shugsludden@hotmail.com
You PISSED
That's the result of too much Speed, Acid and E as a youngster
bLuE oRdEr wrote: John Lennon had the best voice in rock. Period.
eer, but he never rocked Bluey
bLuE oRdEr wrote: John Lennon had the best voice in rock. Period.
mAYBE................but who the fcuk is JENNON LENNON that SHUGZV mantioned?:D
patrick stewart appreciation society wrote:
bLuE oRdEr wrote: Erm...
A Hard Days Night Help Ticket To Ride
are you being serious?
Those were straight-ahead rock songs.
Most of his music was more experimental. He once said in an interview that it bugged him that in the studio, his songs were always given the experimental treatment, while McCartney's songs were always given the pop song treatment. In the end, his work holds up better, because it explored new territory. But his music, for the most part after about 1965, also wasn't straight-ahead rock songs. There was always something more introspective, more poetic, in his work after 1965.
Rocket Mick wrote:
bLuE oRdEr wrote: John Lennon had the best voice in rock. Period.
mAYBE................but who the fcuk is JENNON LENNON that SHUGZV mantioned?:D
Excellent point, ROCKET! We'll have to have Shug sort that one out. Probably a third cousin once removed.
bLuE oRdEr wrote:
patrick stewart appreciation society wrote:
bLuE oRdEr wrote: Erm...
A Hard Days Night Help Ticket To Ride
are you being serious?
Those were straight-ahead rock songs.
Most of his music was more experimental. He once said in an interview that it bugged him that in the studio, his songs were always given the experimental treatment, while McCartney's songs were always given the pop song treatment. In the end, his work holds up better, because it explored new territory. But his music, for the most part after about 1965, also wasn't straight-ahead rock songs. There was always something more introspective, more poetic, in his work after 1965.
well neither him nor the beatles or any of the off shoots, wings macca solo etc are my cup of tea. i find lennon one of the if not THE most over-rated artists ever. i've tried to listen to him and i just find him boring.
patrick stewart appreciation society wrote:
bLuE oRdEr wrote:
patrick stewart appreciation society wrote:
bLuE oRdEr wrote: Erm...
A Hard Days Night Help Ticket To Ride
are you being serious?
Those were straight-ahead rock songs.
Most of his music was more experimental. He once said in an interview that it bugged him that in the studio, his songs were always given the experimental treatment, while McCartney's songs were always given the pop song treatment. In the end, his work holds up better, because it explored new territory. But his music, for the most part after about 1965, also wasn't straight-ahead rock songs. There was always something more introspective, more poetic, in his work after 1965.
well neither him nor the beatles or any of the off shoots, wings macca solo etc are my cup of tea. i find lennon one of the if not THE most over-rated artists ever. i've tried to listen to him and i just find him boring.
You're listening out of context. If you were around then, they would have been terribly exciting for you, because there was NOTHING happening musically until they cme along. Look at the charts just before the Beatles charted. I don't know who was on there, but I can assure you it was crap. The Beatles vchanged that, and after them came the Stones and the rest of the British invasion. They changed music from pre-fab teen idols singing crap songs pounded out by ADULTS working in song-writing houses in New York, to rock bands singing ROCK songs that the band members wrote themselves. Unheard of (not counting some of the black rock 'n' rollers from the fifties that the Beatles so admired)until the Beatles came along.
Post-Beatles, I think their music suffered artistically, Macca's worst of all.
bLuE oRdEr wrote:
patrick stewart appreciation society wrote:
bLuE oRdEr wrote:
patrick stewart appreciation society wrote:
bLuE oRdEr wrote: Erm...
A Hard Days Night Help Ticket To Ride
are you being serious?
Those were straight-ahead rock songs.
Most of his music was more experimental. He once said in an interview that it bugged him that in the studio, his songs were always given the experimental treatment, while McCartney's songs were always given the pop song treatment. In the end, his work holds up better, because it explored new territory. But his music, for the most part after about 1965, also wasn't straight-ahead rock songs. There was always something more introspective, more poetic, in his work after 1965.
well neither him nor the beatles or any of the off shoots, wings macca solo etc are my cup of tea. i find lennon one of the if not THE most over-rated artists ever. i've tried to listen to him and i just find him boring.
You're listening out of context. If you were around then, they would have been terribly exciting for you, because there was NOTHING happening musically until they cme along. Look at the charts just before the Beatles charted. I don't know who was on there, but I can assure you it was crap. The Beatles vchanged that, and after them came the Stones and the rest of the British invasion. They changed music from pre-fab teen idols singing crap songs pounded out by ADULTS working in song-writing houses in New York, to rock bands singing ROCK songs that the band members wrote themselves. Unheard of (not counting some of the black rock 'n' rollers from the fifties that the Beatles so admired)until the Beatles came along.
Post-Beatles, I think their music suffered artistically, Macca's worst of all.
how can i be listening out of context? music is a personal thing it either clicks with you or it doesn't, the Beatles and such affiliates don't click with me.
If you were around when they broke, it would have clicked with you. There's a cultural context-- the youth culture of the baby boomers-- that the Beatles clicked with.
The Beatles music needs to be placed in the temporal context in which it was released. At that time, it was cutting edge. You're listening to it in a completely different context and saying it doesn't click with you. That's OK, but it's still out of context. Take New Order's best song, whatever that might be, and play it to someone young 40 years after it was released. They'll have the same reaction to it, that it doesn't click with them, because it'll be out of it's cultural context.
Lennon's one of those "love him or hate him" figures in RNR, he did some incredible stuff with the Beatles but started getting indulgent when Yoko suddenly appeared (she didn't break up the Beatles, but she widened the rift between John and the other three). I've always held him up as a musical god myself, it doesn't hurt that I have the same birthday and identify with the whole "absent father" situation. Plus, the fact that Sir Paul has proven himself to be such a dickhead ever since helps settle "who is your favorite Beatle?" polls for me 
As for "Live In New York", Shug, I used to have the CD, but it doesn't have the same effect as watching the performance (which I saw on VH1 back before they got taken over by "I Love The Insert-Any-Decade-Here" shows). I don't have it anymore, and I haven't seen any DVD of the performance around 
bLuE oRdEr wrote: If you were around when they broke, it would have clicked with you. There's a cultural context-- the youth culture of the baby boomers-- that the Beatles clicked with.
The Beatles music needs to be placed in the temporal context in which it was released. At that time, it was cutting edge. You're listening to it in a completely different context and saying it doesn't click with you. That's OK, but it's still out of context. Take New Order's best song, whatever that might be, and play it to someone young 40 years after it was released. They'll have the same reaction to it, that it doesn't click with them, because it'll be out of it's cultural context.
i don't agree with you at all about the 'if you we're there' at all but...
i can see your a big fan of the beatles and very passionate about them so i can't be bothered getting into an argument about the 'then and now'.
we can just leave it as you like them i don't
I was there when they first made it in the U.S., so I remember.
If you appreciate that your favorite bands write their own songs, and that those songs speak to something in you, instead of having some 60 year old professional songwriter write what he thinks will get you to shell out for some phony pre-packaged teen idol's latest record, that was the Beatles' doing.
But you're right, no point arguing about it. I don't really listen anymore anyway, but I do have a fond spot in my heart for them.
Now New Order, there's a band I listen to every day.
Homer Simpson [playing with Ned Flanders' Beatles bobblehead dolls]: "Look, I'm Brian Epstein!" 
I was there for Vanilla Ice, so if your favorite artist are white kids from the suburbs who want to pretend they're black and from the street, and not some 60-year-old trying to act all "hip" and write songs for those performers, you really have Ice to thank for that 
:p
From the Brill Building:
I'm Vanilla Ice and I'm here to say, support hose really make my day.
yea,he was all-peace man.he was bad really.didnt lennon once mug a german!!!!
emmmmmmmmmmm wait a minute,actually 
bansheeman wrote: yea,he was all-peace man.he was bad really.didnt lennon once mug a german!!!! emmmmmmmmmmm wait a minute,actually
If by "mug" you mean "have sex with" and "a german" mean "Astrid Kirchherr, the female photographer who documented their Hamburg days", then no, that was Stuart Sutcliffe. 
But Lennon early on was a bit of an ass. He changed as he got older, and he didn't deserve to be taken so soon. Paul might've, but not John :p
Taboo # 7 wrote:
bansheeman wrote: yea,he was all-peace man.he was bad really.didnt lennon once mug a german!!!! emmmmmmmmmmm wait a minute,actually
If by "mug" you mean "have sex with" and "a german" mean "Astrid Kirchherr, the female photographer who documented their Hamburg days", then no, that was Stuart Sutcliffe.
But Lennon early on was a bit of an ass. He changed as he got older, and he didn't deserve to be taken so soon. Paul might've, but not John :p
no,i am sure i read that he did actually MUG someone then again whoopy goldberg 'ugly'mugs us all whenever she appears on screen
So basically no bastard has this DVD then? ;)
I never used to rate Lennon on his own at all, but me mate Mark had Legend and continually brought it round for parties (in between neworder and all my Madchester stuff) and I fucking loved Mother the more I heard it, he was ace at the autobiographical material, in the same way Help was brilliant for The Beatles.
I went on a neworder type trek with Lennon and started off by buying the Plastic Ono Band album then Imagine and so on. He wasn't the nicest of people at times, but then again, we've probably all been caught short once or twice with regrettable incidents, I know I have!
Anyway to me, Lennon's solo stuff is right up there with the best of The Beatles, and I have all of The Beatles albums I think. It's a shame he was taken away, cos he was writing some of his best material at the time, Nobody Told Me and Watching The Wheels are up there with the best stuff he recorded either by himself or with the band.
My dad used to have live in NY, and I remember watching it and thinking it was shite, but having seen snippets on the TV since I would really like to get masel a copy.
And Macca's Band on the Run is up there with em all...Don't laugh,just cos Wings were Gash..B on the R is the best either did,two songs in one,needs to be listened to all the way through to be appreciated.I am sooo uncool I know.Download it and like my mates you will be won over too.Its a right laugh,but class too..I would'nt recommend any other WINGS offerings tho,don't get me wrong..Band on the Run is quality
