best wishes to george best and family

Al Jarvis wrote:

craig's digitalwaters wrote: The wife beating thing thou', if true, isn't forgivable IMO (drunk or otherwise; he should have punched a wall / door, not his wife).

Indeed, if it's true. Read my comments to Johnny in THIS thread though, and make of it what you will. Am sure the majority of us will remember the incident in Sticky Fingers. It's just whether you want to take it completely out of context, or not.

Missed that thread...

I had no idea that Mr. Best had even had this allegation levelled against him until reading it here, so I doubt it's true...

Think I missed out on the Hooky / Sticky Fingers things 'coz I was on active service (it was during my Army days I think- not sure of the date of the incident)...

A lot of bollocks is always talked about celebrities...

P.S./I.E. What about the ex-Enders laydee having an epeleptic alcohol withdrawal fit in the Jungle yesterday....

Al Jarvis wrote:

Steve Campbell wrote: I found it kinda odd Al, that were willing to grant Mr Best the title of disease sufferer for his chemical dependence, but were not so charitable about your own kicking of the ciggies.

Don't quite get you, Steve. I kicked fags after perhaps 10 or more years, relatively easily. But I can't apply the same logic to George Best, simply because I don't understand the nature of his concerns. It's one thing for me to say, I kicked something, and then assume everyone else can do the same, because patently they cannot. Alcoholism is an illness, so we're told. I'm sure most people here would stop drinking tomorrow if they were told it would kill them, but I don't see why there's a need to deride George Best because he cannot stop drinking for himself. The bloke's got a problem and the best some people can do is point the finger. Charming.

Actually that comment was more from a "more credit for you" rather than a "less credit for george" standpoint, but I see yer logic.

And I aint saying "fook im he's a wanker" as such, more that, if being blitzed and living a shorter time is his gig, then fair play to him, but we shouldn't get over tearful. Maybe he really can't kick it, maybe no fucker will help him (famous and rich people tend to be well specced on hangers-on but a bit short on real friends). But you do have to wonder who the mother of some young kid who needs a liver would feel watchin Bestie havin a ball. then again, as you pointed out, that's a media thing...."look at george, look at george", and I tend to think old bollox's shouldn;t get stuff like that anyway, having had a good innings and so on.

remind me of this if I need something replacing in 10 years :)

EDIT: the hooky thing is a damned good example of the media makin stuff worse. I seem to recall some of the reports made a huge deal of the chap being seriously ill at the time, and not so many had any mention of what kicked it off, which accordin to my wee sister who's read every book about everyone (and that's the extent of the reliability of my inf if it's rong, oooops), was that Hooky spotted New BF rowing with Caroline and went into "micro brained male " mode, I would almost certainly have done the same if I'd seen my ex getting grief from my replacement. But isn't he off the sauce because of stuff like that, or did he just pull that out of his arse on Ch4 that tinme? (what with just saying stuff for the hell of it being totally out of character for NO and all)

I'll get her to clarify her source on this. I also heard a version much as alistair tells it. Either way, i think we all know there's nothing to make a man a prick like booze and chicks. Been there, done that :)

Al Jarvis wrote:

I'm presuming he waited in line the same amount of time as anyone else has for a transplant?

He stayed off drink for a while (a year or something) before joining the transplant list. He made something of the fact that he could have queue-jumped by... erm... something... I'd have to Google the rest!

it is sad to see someone who has brought so much joy to so many go before his time. Its very sad to see anyone go before their time.

No Idea if any of this went out national, but it was on the NI news. Seems the family have gathered round and he aint expected to make it thru the night:(

Seems everything's packing up in short order now, I believe it's his lungs are the actual threat at the moment.

As long as he goes quick and doesn't spend days in pain.

Anyway, I know some of yous'uns are nuts about him, so i thought you should know.

Well I just heard on the news, that Georgey boy has finally left us. Dunno if it's on National news yet ( even tho he's in London).

Thought you guys should know.

Rest In Peace

RIP George

A Norn Iron great

Gawd bless yer sir...

And he's also donating his organs; a fitting end and two fingers to the knockers (and yes, yes, I know it's probably only his corneas and lenses that are fit to be donated, but the gift of sight is a pretty major thing donchano).

RIP.

bye besty i know all man u fans will be very sad today

i became interested in football rather late in my life (around 20) and didn't know much about the sport except for who pele was. once i got into the game, perhaps the first name i heard was george best's. i saw some old footage on the telly from the 1960s and, even in my relative ignorance, i knew he was something special and had a real gift for the sport.

folks have said their piece on here about george best's lifestyle, one way or another. now may he rest in peace.

Fuck peace...... Where george is now, the beer don't do you any harm and the bimbos be plentiful. Like any true Norn Iron man, he'll be shitfaced already, with a winged bint on each arm, and wondering WTF the problem with all the miserable ballixes down here is.

AND he'll be able to run around like a kid and play again.

then again if Jonh Denver's right about Heaven, I reckon our boy will already have slugged an angel in a bid to get expelled.

Keep yer downcast thought for those he left behind, don't mope for George.

And if he was already suffering secondary failures in his body, I doubt even his eyes'd be up to much :(

Still a shock - one of those people you thought would be around forever, as bizarre as that sounds given his illness. Can't argue with Jarvo's sentiments, must be absolutely unbearable for his father, especially since his own wife fell victim to the same disease.

Even as a staunch Liverpool fan, I'll be raising a glass in his honour tonight. Might I recommend his biography "Bestie" by Joe Lovejoy - I know I'll be digging out my copy in the next day or two.

RIP

Steve Campbell wrote: Fuck peace...... Where george is now, the beer don't do you any harm and the bimbos be plentiful. Like any true Norn Iron man, he'll be shitfaced already, with a winged bint on each arm, and wondering WTF the problem with all the miserable ballixes down here is.

AND he'll be able to run around like a kid and play again.

with ollie reed and richard harris, right? that's where i always imagined they'd be.

Rest in Peace.

Remember down my way for playing 3 games and scoring two goals for us. Easily our most famous player ever, even though hardly anyone (probably rightly) remembers that he played for.

I can recall an article in Total Sport about 10 years ago about the top 100 British Sportsmen. It said "He never even played in the world cup let alone won the thing." Amazing really.

Got it in one girl :)

And, as often aseerted, possibly even here on these hallowed fora, God is alledgedly a Man U fan. Actually never mind all the pissheads, he'll be able to see all his old heroes that bought it in that plane crash.

PS I want fookin Richard harris back, that bloke Gambon is a terrible Dumbledor.

Steve Campbell wrote: Fuck peace...... Where george is now, the beer don't do you any harm and the bimbos be plentiful. Like any true Norn Iron man, he'll be shitfaced already, with a winged bint on each arm, and wondering WTF the problem with all the miserable ballixes down here is.

AND he'll be able to run around like a kid and play again.

RIP. The legend is used too often in football but no one can deny George was one.

Sad day for all true footy fans.

YNWA

Al Jarvis wrote:

Uncle Liam wrote: Remember down my way for playing 3 games and scoring two goals for us. Easily our most famous player ever, even though hardly anyone (probably rightly) remembers that he played for.

Who are we talking about here? Los Angeles Aztecs?! Didn't know you'd gone all Stateside on us, Liam.

He played a one-off for Dunstable Town after leaving ManYoo. Hadn't shown up half an hour before kick-off so someone had to be despatched to the Chiltern Hotel to track down Bestie. They burst into his room to find him knee-deep in two blondes. Still made kick-off in time though.

That boy knew how to live.

The most famous team that he ever played for: Stockport County. He was out most famous player, until Carlton Palmer became player manager.

Uncle Liam wrote: Rest in Peace.

Remember down my way for playing 3 games and scoring two goals for us. Easily our most famous player ever, even though hardly anyone (probably rightly) remembers that he played for.

I can recall an article in Total Sport about 10 years ago about the top 100 British Sportsmen. It said "He never even played in the world cup let alone won the thing." Amazing really.

so, he was stockport county's finest!

edit: see you got in there before me.

RIP George. A true football legend. YNWA.

It's sad news. He was a legendary footballer. There isn't that much footage of him playing because he never played in the WC etc, but from what I have seen he was a true great.

One day in the dark streets of Belfast, A young man was born too soon, For had he been born today, boys, This game would know no gloom, For he stood only Five Feet eight inches, He weighed only eight stone, By day he played with his friends there, By night he played on his own. Then early one morning a letter, Arrived in the post at his home: "Will your son please board the ferry, From Ireland to England alone", So a young lad arrived at Old Trafford, Prepared to give his all, But England's a long way from Belfast, And the Emerald Isle did call. It took all of Matt Busby's persuasion, To make him come back for the test, For he knew that he'd found a genius, Who was so far ahead of the rest, He could run at the speed of a greyhound, Turn on a sixpence and shoot, Dribble his way through a minefield, While still only wearing one boot. His playing brought crowds in their thousands, His antics attack from the press, But they still had to bow down in tribute, And acknowledge true genius...George Best!

RIP Bestie. :(