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Jack_H wrote: Don't the USA have an amazing like 16/17 year old player called Freddy Adu??

I heard he was the hottest young player around at the moment...will he be playing in the world cup? any americans enlighten me on this??

I think he's going to the World Cup but they rarely play him. Although I reckon he'll play some sort of part in the finals.

Anyway, hottest young player around is that Rooney fella :thumb:

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Steve Broad wrote:

Bobby Convey

It's a football competition, not diving! :evil4:

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I wonder if Canada will someday be part of this... :confused2:

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Barney Army wrote:

Jack_H wrote: Don't the USA have an amazing like 16/17 year old player called Freddy Adu??

I heard he was the hottest young player around at the moment...will he be playing in the world cup? any americans enlighten me on this??

I think he's going to the World Cup but they rarely play him. Although I reckon he'll play some sort of part in the finals.

Anyway, hottest young player around is that Rooney fella :thumb:

Freddy Adu Pobably Wont go to the world cup, he hasnt panned out and its said he has a bad Attitude, he is the highet paid player in the league here(or 2nd to landon donovan) but his coach doesnt play him all that much, i dont watch the MLS so i m not sure why but he really is nothing compared to the young talent in europe and South America

Cant wait to see rooney in the world cup, i think he will do well, also would love to see Argentina's Lionel Messi in the world cup but im not sure if he will make it

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all you english seem to forget that the us team has been ranked as high or higher than england for the last six months or so. we've been in the top 10 (well, 11,) for the past couple of years. maybe since 2002. we aren't a pushover anymore.

from FIFA: 05 ENG/USA Nov 9/8 Oct 9/7 Sept 11/7 Aug 7/6 July 8/6

(sorry, i can't get the chart to look so good... but it goes month, english rank, american rank...)

personally, i think we should be ranked higher than mexico... we beat them nicely a couple of months ago... and why was spain moved up so much recently? hmm?

i think we'll make it out of our group... the czechs will most likely win the group, but we should be able to beat italy and ghana. but, if we get second place in the group, i think we go against brazil (when they win their group...) in the next round. and that's not good.

england's draw looks good for them. but the english don't really test well, do they now?

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jesse steichen wrote: all you english seem to forget that the us team has been ranked as high or higher than england for the last six months or so. we've been in the top 10 (well, 11,) for the past couple of years. maybe since 2002. we aren't a pushover anymore.

from FIFA: 05 ENG/USA Nov 9/8 Oct 9/7 Sept 11/7 Aug 7/6 July 8/6

(sorry, i can't get the chart to look so good... but it goes month, english rank, american rank...)

personally, i think we should be ranked higher than mexico... we beat them nicely a couple of months ago... and why was spain moved up so much recently? hmm?

Ever crossed your mind that FIFA rankings mean fuck all?

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observations:

-Arena may bring Adu along on the team but it is very doubtful and he certainly won't play...he's not ready yet.

-England's draw is not nearly as difficult as the USA's is. I predict that they'll go on to the round of 16 but with Sven as coach they'll have virtually no chance of advancing more than one game at most.

-USA wont be able to sneak up on teams like they did last go around...they basically had one offensive schema last time aroud...pack it in on defense and run Donovan and Beasly out for counters. That being said...team USA is much more balanced this time around. I'll be satisfied if they make it to the round of sixteen and happy if we win one game there.

-No team in the world can come close to Brazil (on an off day for Brazil Argentina can give them a good game if Argentina plays perfectly).

-Canada's Dwayne DeRosario was one of the best players in the MLS last year (should have been MVP imo). He could play in the premiership (or at the very least do very well in the championship division). Other than that...Canada is at least 8 years away from qualifying.

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jesse steichen wrote: all you english seem to forget that the us team has been ranked as high or higher than england for the last six months or so. we've been in the top 10 (well, 11,) for the past couple of years. maybe since 2002. we aren't a pushover anymore.

from FIFA: 05 ENG/USA Nov 9/8 Oct 9/7 Sept 11/7 Aug 7/6 July 8/6

(sorry, i can't get the chart to look so good... but it goes month, english rank, american rank...)

personally, i think we should be ranked higher than mexico... we beat them nicely a couple of months ago... and why was spain moved up so much recently? hmm?

i think we'll make it out of our group... the czechs will most likely win the group, but we should be able to beat italy and ghana. but, if we get second place in the group, i think we go against brazil (when they win their group...) in the next round. and that's not good.

england's draw looks good for them. but the english don't really test well, do they now?

Yer still a bunch of cunts. Don't test well? WTF?

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ShaunRyder wrote: The very same - and I did not say the F word once - impressed ?

Pity about yer e-mail address eh Schoey?

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whatever sod said about it being england and not "the brits". Up your hole!

  1. I support whichever of the teams from this little group of islands hasn't yet been sent home.
  2. English TV types are always really quit to call a winner a Brit, but a loser is always a scot/welshman/uslterman. Can't have it both ways you know :D 3.WE KNOCKED BALLS OUT OF YOU :rofl: You losers..have you any idea what a sack of shit you went down to? Still I doubt you'll be troubled by team freedom the freedomball team from jesusland, save to scrape em off yer boots :)

:D:D:D:D US win WC :D:D:D I may never stop enjoying hearing that put forward as a sensible proposition.

Sorry...I know dick about football but I will start to care more as the real deal approaches.

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Much as I'd like to see it happen, it appears to be a much more difficult task than what happened in Korea 2002. The US record for playing in Europe isn't particularly impressive, and the first opponent in the second round, if the team should make it, would almost certainly be Brazil, yet another tall order to fill. Still, stranger things have happened....and the last one involving the US and England in football occurred in 1950 :lol:

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oldmonkey wrote:

Yer still a bunch of cunts. Don't test well? WTF?

let's see: there's been pakistan, bangladesh, sri lanka, india...oops! wrong sport.

;)

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Think the venue is important - with the exception of Brazil, how many teams have won the World Cup away from their own continent? European conditions are familiar to all European players so they will have the advantage - I really dont see the US beating Italy in the country next door and please dont start with this offense/MVP crap - this is soccer not your 'football'! The team that doesnt 'test' well is Spain. England just seem to f up the penalty shoot outs so if Rooney and Owen deliver as they should maybe this time it wont get to that?

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World Cup to Argentina!

Well if you change the rules , so that FAT OVERATED CHEATING BASTARDS can use their hands , then yes they have a chance.

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all the americans seem to be forgetting that we, england, played you lot in a friendly only recently, and if my memory serves me correctly, we won!! so shush!

two goals from keiran richardson, and hes a man united player too :thumb:

come on man united & england!!

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Isnt Richardson on loan somewhere else?? How can you let Everton score against you after just six minutes?! And if Bent had played a half decent ball you'd have lost in the last minute too, imho..!

Nobody talks about Germany having a chance yet they have the home advantage and they made the last World Cup final dont forget..

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Please can the USA boys stick to the "sports" they know - Baseball, American Football,etc.

Leave the proper world sport - football - to the people who live and breath it ( i.e. the rest of the world ).

We all know the USA just "do not get football" - which is great - we like that - they would never understand the passion and the skill involved.

Talk to any Brit, Dutchman , Italian , Spanish, etc - then you may one day understand.

Not having a go - honest - I love the USA - but please do not get involved in something you could never comprehend.

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No worries, I don't even follow sports! :thumb:

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digital mike binoche wrote:

World Cup to Argentina!

Well if you change the rules , so that FAT OVERATED CHEATING BASTARDS can use their hands , then yes they have a chance.

Get over it my friend maradona beat your asses Almost 20 years ago now. and as a show of good faith and friendship i changed my avatar back because i know how fond you are of it

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frank smarra wrote:

digital mike binoche wrote:

World Cup to Argentina!

Well if you change the rules , so that FAT OVERATED CHEATING BASTARDS can use their hands , then yes they have a chance.

Get over it my friend maradona beat your asses Almost 20 years ago now.

and now his ass is bigger than the whole of england.

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ShaunRyder wrote: Please can the USA boys stick to the "sports" they know - Baseball, American Football,etc.

We all know the USA just "do not get football" - which is great - we like that - they would never understand the passion and the skill involved.

please. that's just a silly generalization. plenty of americans watch/play/follow soccer. "never understand..." it's not rocket science. it's a fairly simple sport... i played for about 10 years, reffed for 3, and have watched the WC since 1990 (in 1986, i was 7 years old...), held season tickets to a highly ranked college men's team, and have been to several premiership games. there are cable channels devoted just to international soccer. like anything else, soccer is there if you want it. i don't care about it like i used to, but i care enough to follow the past two freaking years of qualification. we're in this thing, too, so we'll talk about it if we want to talk about it. besides, we don't have to do what you say anymore... :\peek:

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AgentWood wrote:

frank smarra wrote:

digital mike binoche wrote:

World Cup to Argentina!

Well if you change the rules , so that FAT OVERATED CHEATING BASTARDS can use their hands , then yes they have a chance.

Get over it my friend maradona beat your asses Almost 20 years ago now.

and now his ass is bigger than the whole of england.

in poularity? yes

havent you seen the New Improved Maradona?

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frank smarra wrote: havent you seen the New Improved Maradona?

awww...an oompa-loompa takes the field. :evil4:

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the greatest oompa loompa to ever lace up a pair of football boots:)

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Wonder what they will call the Us version of soccer thwn they create it after finally proving their internaional suckage at it..... on previous form.... Suck at Formula1: create IRL/CART Suck at LeMans: create ALMS[1] Suck at Rounders: create baseball Suck at Netball: create basketall Suck at Rugby: strap on pads and create American football Suck at Soccer:mmmmmmm open for names

[1]OK not exactly true, the yanks do OK in Le mans, and ALMS IS a nice chance for the cars to get another few runs in the year.

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Steve Campbell wrote:

Suck at Rugby: strap on pads and create American football

dude, i don't think you understand what a 375 pound linebacker would do to a pasty brit if they met up. american football players wear pads because the players are so massive. also, because of the forward pass, the game is more open than rugby, which leads to harder collisions. the pads and helmets were introduced because people were dying on the field:

"Columbia, Rutgers, Princeton, and Yale Universities met in New York City to formulate the first intercollegiate football rules for the increasingly popular game. These four teams established the Intercollegiate Football Association (IFA) and set 15 as the number of players allowed on each team.

Within a decade, concern over the increasing brutality of the game led to its ban by some colleges. Nearly 180 players had suffered serious injuries, and eighteen deaths had been reported from the brutal mass plays that had become common practice. So in 1905, President Theodore Roosevelt called upon Harvard, Princeton, and Yale to help save the sport from demise." --www.hornetfootball.org/documents

american football is actually quite an intricate and entertaining game. it translates well to t.v. because of the colors and the glitz, but what doesn't translate is the speed and brutality of the game. comparing rugby to american football is like comparing (in no particular order) a steak to ground beef. sure, they both come from the same source (which is where soccer comes from as well), but they are not the same thing.

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jesse steichen wrote: american football is actually quite an intricate and entertaining game..

Er, if any of this were actually true don't you think many other countries would've picked up on the spectacle by now?!

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jesse steichen wrote:

Steve Campbell wrote:

Suck at Rugby: strap on pads and create American football

dude, i don't think you understand what a 375 pound linebacker

A 375 pound linebacker...where the hell have you seen one of those??? and at that size, he'd never even CATCH a pasty Brit...

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Steve Broad wrote: Hi all, I am a Reading FC season ticket holder and just want to say that Bobby Convey and Marcus Hahneman are class players and are playing a big part in our potential (likely?) promotion to England's top flight. Both are great although I known there are a couple of keepers in the USA team ahead of Marcus. That said I'm sure England will go further than USA - sorry!

Did these 2 Americans play in the carling cup match at Highbury? Just wondered how they are gonna handle world class opposition when they couldn't hack a second string Arsenal team :()

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78681 wrote:

jesse steichen wrote:

Steve Campbell wrote:

Suck at Rugby: strap on pads and create American football

dude, i don't think you understand what a 375 pound linebacker

A 375 pound linebacker...where the hell have you seen one of those??? and at that size, he'd never even CATCH a pasty Brit...

the only 375 pound players on a football team(american football) are the offensive linemen and they dont run they just block.

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