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..and if not, due to the 'health risks', should alcohol therefore be outlawed?
Discuss.
(This is in response to the recent UK Government review of the downgrade of cannabis from class B to class C, in which they decided to leave it as class C, but have (again) advised that it may not be very good for you).
Jimll wrote: ..and if not, due to the 'health risks', should alcohol therefore be outlawed?
Discuss.
(This is in response to the recent UK Government review of the downgrade of cannabis from class B to class C, in which they decided to leave it as class C, but have (again) advised that it may not be very good for you).
YES! so many things out there that are legal and no good for you, what's the difference?
Jimll wrote: ..and if not, due to the 'health risks', should alcohol therefore be outlawed?
Discuss.
(This is in response to the recent UK Government review of the downgrade of cannabis from class B to class C, in which they decided to leave it as class C, but have (again) advised that it may not be very good for you).
Not a lot to say really is there. course it aint good for you NOTHING fun is. But in terms of it's intended effetcs vs it's side effects it's probably the best compromise for a drug of choice that I have yet found. You don't turn in to a total dickbrain and start stabbing yer mates, you don't throw up (usually :D) Besdies, legalize it and it will not make that many more people smoke, those who do will get quality gear and not rat shite and coffee grounds bound with glue(source: legalize cannabis alliance study), so if anything potential health problems will decrease. And MOST importantly it will remove a massive amount of income from hoods....something that is VITAL in a place like NI or any inner city.
You cannot say weed is bad and booze is good, it's daft, and you'll go a long way to find a doctor (who's on no one's payroll) who'll say anything so dumb....actually the Govts chief medical officer once stated that alcohol was inherently more dangerous and toxic than heroine!
Let me ask a quickie tho...
Anyone here consider suddenly taking it up if it were legalized? After all, increased consumption is a major "anti" argument.
Yes ....it should. And this has nothing to do with the 'frivolity' aspect; but there have been proven health issues on this...my Sis-inLaw has had chronic arthritis in her hands since she was 16 years old! and her hands are uttlerly deformed. She has had enormous amounts of new treatment now, most of which are steroids, which invariably cause awful side effects. The only things that now give her any relief are those related to cannibis; I know there has to be a fine line, but the Govt are OK for us to drink ourselves silly and smoke ourselves silly - it's a bit of a joke where the 'weed' is concerned really...
Might I add on this, despite all that, she is a very strict irish catholic and related or not, she has very strong moral issues on just about EVERYTHING - so, she has issues with it........she now works a 40 hour week for the NHS and is now a single parent with a 16 year old lad. She has to support him and her singlehandedly; she's in pain a lot of the time - what would you do? Cos I know I would!
It's along the lines of 'should drugs be tested on animals'?; in theory no, but if they weren't I would probably be dead - or in a vegetative state anyway...much the same. I wouldn't wear fur, I don't wear make up tested on animals, but you know, we are human and we need certain things at certain times..........legalise it for gods sake.........everyone's gonna use it anyway and kids are od'ing on booze and e's everyday of the week...... it's a bit like saying shall we give 15 year olds contraception...........speech over.....relax now.:)
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Be there ! Be aware ! Be there ! See you there ! Open on Saturday seven to nine
I'm a real Pothead Pixie The green planet Gong is my home I live everywhere but in case I'm not there You can reach me by Radio Gnome
Somebody somewhere has got to be high
Hey Joe, you gotta know the Pot Head Pixies I am - you are - we are - crazy ! Hey-ho, they come and they go, the Pot Head Pixies I am - you are - we are - crazy ! Hey Pete, get up on your feet and catch a taxi I am - you are - we are - crazy ! Oh oui, we're gonna meet the Pot Head Pixies I am - you are - we are - crazy !
Now so Now you know Here and now They come and go
Bom bom bom bom... Good afternoon
Wino wrote: Yes ....it should. And this has nothing to do with the 'frivolity' aspect; but there have been proven health issues on this...my Sis-inLaw has had chronic arthritis in her hands since she was 16 years old! and her hands are uttlerly deformed. She has had enormous amounts of new treatment now, most of which are steroids, which invariably cause awful side effects. The only things that now give her any relief are those related to cannibis; I know there has to be a fine line, but the Govt are OK for us to drink ourselves silly and smoke ourselves silly - it's a bit of a joke where the 'weed' is concerned really...
Might I add on this, despite all that, she is a very strict irish catholic and related or not, she has very strong moral issues on just about EVERYTHING - so, she has issues with it........she now works a 40 hour week for the NHS and is now a single parent with a 16 year old lad. She has to support him and her singlehandedly; she's in pain a lot of the time - what would you do? Cos I know I would!
It's along the lines of 'should drugs be tested on animals'?; in theory no, but if they weren't I would probably be dead - or in a vegetative state anyway...much the same. I wouldn't wear fur, I don't wear make up tested on animals, but you know, we are human and we need certain things at certain times..........legalise it for gods sake.........everyone's gonna use it anyway and kids are od'ing on booze and e's everyday of the week...... it's a bit like saying shall we give 15 year olds contraception...........speech over.....relax now.:)
Am i gald to see you!
I will add at this point, just to avoid any later confusion, that I am completely in favour of it being legalised. 
I am all for freedom of choice, and if I am allowed to go out and drink myself stupid, why can't I smoke myself stupid? (and where stupid is concerned, smoking is the better of the 2). My brother is a Psychiatric Nurse, and has looked after far more patients because of the effects of alcohol than those affected by cannabis. I really don't believe that millions of people are suddenly going to rush out and buy weed just because it is legal - if you want some now, you can get it, everyone knows someone.
Maybe some input from The Dutch Order may be useful?
Christopher Owens wrote:
DUDE, talk about fucking your own point over :D
New Order=shitfaced for MANY years Westlife=not wasted any questions?
EDIT****IMPORTANT***EDIT LOL
I've been drinking and couldn't tell the difference between Vegas's avatar and Owens'
I'll get my coat.
GlasVegas wrote: No.
The drug choice of the terminally dull. We don't want to be encouraging them.
Encouraging who exactly? The terminally dull.........do you live on the same planet as me.....I think probably not.
Wino wrote:
GlasVegas wrote: No.
The drug choice of the terminally dull. We don't want to be encouraging them.
Encouraging who exactly? The terminally dull.........do you live on the same planet as me.....I think probably not.
Yes! The terminally dull. We don't want to be encoraging them. Thought my post was pretty clear. Have you been smokin'?
GlasVegas wrote: No.
The drug choice of the terminally dull. We don't want to be encouraging them.
I think you may have just called a large % of NOOL's 'terminally dull'...and of course, New Order are therefore 'terminally dull'?
Ok....discuss please.
It's a matter of opinion. Whatever get's you through the night..........and all that. The question was whether it should be legalised or not, and not should it only be legal or if you a richard!:) Sir.
I think that alcohol kills more people every year than cannabis does.
I say no more....
Cheers! 
Rian wrote: I think that alcohol kills more people every year than cannabis does.
I say no more....
Cheers!
Correct.
Jimll wrote:
GlasVegas wrote: No.
The drug choice of the terminally dull. We don't want to be encouraging them.
I think you may have just called a large % of NOOL's 'terminally dull'...and of course, New Order are therefore 'terminally dull'?
Ok....discuss please.
I'm havin a laugh fella. Whatever turns you on. It's just never pushed my buttons. I don't get the buzz. In fairness I'm usually using it to try and knock myself uncoscious after tanning loads of Class A's so I'm probably not the best judge.
Professional "smokers" are dull though. I satnd by that. Drugs of any kind aint good for ya long term. Holding one up as being somehow more honourable and "like, totally natural man" is wrong.
Rian wrote: I think that alcohol kills more people every year than cannabis does.
I say no more....
Cheers!
It's true, and alcohol effects people in a way having a puff don't!
No, it makes you dopey (hence its name), and it robs you of drive, determination, aspiration, and achievement. It also causes you to become mentalist later in life. (schiziophenic? Im bleedin quadrophenic ! to quote one Jimmy Cooper from a well known WHO film) I know you will all say but yeh, what about alcohol ?, but beer causes cheer whilst dope crushes all hope.
I'm havin a laugh fella. Whatever turns you on. It's just never pushed my buttons. I don't get the buzz. In fairness I'm usually using it to try and knock myself uncoscious after tanning loads of Class A's so I'm probably ......
AN IDIOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
darran clarke wrote: No, it makes you dopey (hence its name), and it robs you of drive, determination, aspiration, and achievement. It also causes you to become mentalist later in life. (schiziophenic? Im bleedin quadrophenic ! to quote one Jimmy Cooper from a well known WHO film) I know you will all say but yeh, what about alcohol ?, but beer causes cheer whilst dope crushes all hope.
I hope that is a joke? Is that the same 'cheer' people have whilst in the process of wrapping a bottle of becks around some poor sod's head, because he looked at someone's girlfriend 'the wrong way' (or spilt a pint)?!!
darran clarke wrote: No, it makes you dopey (hence its name), and it robs you of drive, determination, aspiration, and achievement. It also causes you to become mentalist later in life. (schiziophenic? Im bleedin quadrophenic ! to quote one Jimmy Cooper from a well known WHO film) I know you will all say but yeh, what about alcohol ?, but beer causes cheer whilst dope crushes all hope.
the fatal dose is however....a 10 kilo block/bale dropped on your head from 100ft.
Shall I ring casualty in the morning to see how many shiney happy cheery beer drinkers popped in tonight :D I been fairly hammered all and I've recorded and half mixed two songs, cooked the dinner and cleaned me house.
Jimll wrote:
darran clarke wrote: No, it makes you dopey (hence its name), and it robs you of drive, determination, aspiration, and achievement. It also causes you to become mentalist later in life. (schiziophenic? Im bleedin quadrophenic ! to quote one Jimmy Cooper from a well known WHO film) I know you will all say but yeh, what about alcohol ?, but beer causes cheer whilst dope crushes all hope.
I hope that is a joke? Is that the same 'cheer' people have whilst in the process of wrapping a bottle of becks around some poor sod's head, because he looked at someone's girlfriend 'the wrong way' (or spilt a pint)?!!
You said it........
Steve Campbell wrote:
darran clarke wrote: No, it makes you dopey (hence its name), and it robs you of drive, determination, aspiration, and achievement. It also causes you to become mentalist later in life. (schiziophenic? Im bleedin quadrophenic ! to quote one Jimmy Cooper from a well known WHO film) I know you will all say but yeh, what about alcohol ?, but beer causes cheer whilst dope crushes all hope.
the fatal dose is however....a 10 kilo block/bale dropped on your head from 100ft.
Shall I ring casualty in the morning to see how many shiney happy cheery beer drinkers popped in tonight :D I been fairly hammered all and I've recorded and half mixed two songs, cooked the dinner and cleaned me house.
It IS a killer in some respects, but booze and drugs whilst both being addictive, are totally different in every possible aspect.....OK depends upon the drug and the one in question is cannabis......different story to different narcotics!
GlasVegas wrote:
Jimll wrote:
GlasVegas wrote: No.
The drug choice of the terminally dull. We don't want to be encouraging them.
I think you may have just called a large % of NOOL's 'terminally dull'...and of course, New Order are therefore 'terminally dull'?
Ok....discuss please.
I'm havin a laugh fella. Whatever turns you on. It's just never pushed my buttons. I don't get the buzz. In fairness I'm usually using it to try and knock myself uncoscious after tanning loads of Class A's so I'm probably not the best judge.
Professional "smokers" are dull though. I satnd by that. Drugs of any kind aint good for ya long term. Holding one up as being somehow more honourable and "like, totally natural man" is wrong.
What exactly is a professional smoker? I wouldn't like to do it for a living particularly, although it would be better than my current job!!
Jimll wrote:
GlasVegas wrote:
Jimll wrote:
GlasVegas wrote: No.
The drug choice of the terminally dull. We don't want to be encouraging them.
I think you may have just called a large % of NOOL's 'terminally dull'...and of course, New Order are therefore 'terminally dull'?
Ok....discuss please.
I'm havin a laugh fella. Whatever turns you on. It's just never pushed my buttons. I don't get the buzz. In fairness I'm usually using it to try and knock myself uncoscious after tanning loads of Class A's so I'm probably not the best judge.
Professional "smokers" are dull though. I satnd by that. Drugs of any kind aint good for ya long term. Holding one up as being somehow more honourable and "like, totally natural man" is wrong.
What exactly is a professional smoker? I wouldn't like to do it for a living particularly, although it would be better than my current job!!
Send me your email address and I'll let you have the job description!
Oh all sorts of things can kill you if you overdose. take 25 paracetamol sme times and see how you feel. Fine, for 3 days, then you die from liver failure. there is however no documented fatal dose of cannabis....that's not to say it doesn't exist, I mean, by the time your blood is 20% THC it's unlikely to flow properly. But it does mean, no one's ever needed to get that wasted :D Nicotine in it's pure form is fatal on skin contact !
( I smoke fags BTW, I'm just poiting out the sillines)
Steve Campbell wrote: Oh all sorts of things can kill you if you overdose. take 25 paracetamol sme times and see how you feel. Fine, for 3 days, then you die from liver failure. there is however no documented fatal dose of cannabis....that's not to say it doesn't exist, I mean, by the time your blood is 20% THC it's unlikely to flow properly. But it does mean, no one's ever needed to get that wasted :D Nicotine in it's pure form is fatal on skin contact !
( I smoke fags BTW, I'm just poiting out the sillines)
Oh, great now you tell me. I have like, 20-30 square red patches all over my body...............everybody trying to quit - sod it, light a fag instead and get rid of those patches - or those very very very determined - just go cold turkey and stop dreaming about 4ft rabbits! LOL Steve.
Wino wrote:
Jimll wrote:
GlasVegas wrote:
Jimll wrote:
GlasVegas wrote: No.
The drug choice of the terminally dull. We don't want to be encouraging them.
I think you may have just called a large % of NOOL's 'terminally dull'...and of course, New Order are therefore 'terminally dull'?
Ok....discuss please.
Professional "smokers" are dull though. I satnd by that. Drugs of any kind aint good for ya long term. Holding one up as being somehow more honourable and "like, totally natural man" is wrong.
What exactly is a professional smoker? I wouldn't like to do it for a living particularly, although it would be better than my current job!!
Send me your email address and I'll let you have the job description!
ha ha....
I think I have my own job description really, just wanted to see Class A man's version!
I'm no angel...done my fair share of drugs
but NO. Not a good idea to legalise any sort of drugs.
It would be no fuckin fun takin drugs if they were legal :\ohwell:
and who would want their children takin drugs?
BA wrote: I'm no angel...done my fair share of drugs
but NO. Not a good idea to legalise any sort of drugs.
It would be no fuckin fun takin drugs if they were legal :\ohwell:
and who would want their children takin drugs?
You're definitely no angel. In whatever context you choose on that one........cos I am in fact, take advantage of the fact, I am in serious mode tonight.
Why is it not a good idea to legalise it? You smoke right? That is an addictive drug.
I of course, dont want my kids to take drugs of any kind - I know my youngest wont ever - but I cant say that for my daughter; I am not the greatest example amd I? Drinks and fags are drugs at the end of the day........but they are legal! This one could go on forever..............:)
i don't know the answer to this question. i am not adverse to the odd smoke. as a matter of fact i had one last week. these days i just don't go looking for it.
there are people who i went to school with who i fully would have expected to run the country by now who have becaome total drop outs, because of it. my best friend at high school became a heavy doper, and it was his only interest in life for many years. he became a very boring person to be with.
then there are the well documented effects on mental health alluded to above. plus don't think it won't give you lung cancer, well you could use a bong, but it is still smoke.
perhaps just leave it as it is. those who want it can always get it.
Wino wrote: I'm havin a laugh fella. Whatever turns you on. It's just never pushed my buttons. I don't get the buzz. In fairness I'm usually using it to try and knock myself uncoscious after tanning loads of Class A's so I'm probably ......
AN IDIOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And who the fcuk are you again?
They got a Flying Teapot, don't need a taxi
One of the greatest lyrics ever Steve, from Flying Teapot - GONG 
Digital Mike wrote:
They got a Flying Teapot, don't need a taxi
One of the greatest lyrics ever Steve, from Flying Teapot - GONG
Actually it's from pot head pixies, but we wont quibble :D
I feel the neighbours may be getting wakenned with that, followed by the good and noble flying teapot, and possible a touch of you can't kill me.
Gong....fucked Michael Bolton..... Drugs are bad mmmmmkay
any questions :D
I think I may just have a cup of tea and another one.
Digital Mike wrote:
Me and REN ( Nooler ) with Daevid Allen, I'm on the right as you look at the picture
:Jealous:
you even have your PHP hats on :(
(BTW, I kinda got confused and forgot the pixies were on the album flyin teapot)
Either way, miquette Giraudy (sp?) steals my heart every time with "crazy" on that tune.
Digital Mike wrote: ... and when she say's HELLO on the Salmon Song
it's her doing "oh me oh my there's a LIGHT in the sky " too aint it .
it's her doing "oh me oh my there's a LIGHT in the sky " too aint it .
Sure is.
Iv'e spoken to her several times, she's ace
Digital Mike wrote:
it's her doing "oh me oh my there's a LIGHT in the sky " too aint it .
Sure is. Iv'e spoken to her several times, she's ace
:more jealous:
My bro is now paying the price for keeping me awake til like 5 or something with ugly trance music ( I was up again at 6:50). Motivation radio at full power. Should do his hangover the world of good, tho I for one can think of few things nicer to wake to than "hello dawn".
My mate, the one I mentioned before, is convinced that the original temptation 12" sounds like searchin for the spark???!!!?!!?!
How can anyone say nasty things about weed and own a hi-fi???
Definitely not. I've already explained my reasons on other threads on this subject before, so I won't bore you lot by going through them all again.
I will say this, though; drink's safer than drugs because when you drink, you know exactly what's going to happen to you and you can take steps to prevent it, or at least to minimise the damage (e.g. drinking water or soft drinks between boozy ones to stop yourself getting drunk). You can't really say the same about drugs; they could have anything in them and once they're in your body, you can't stop whatever's going to happen. I certainly know what one I'll be sticking with.
Miss Disco wrote: Definitely not. I've already explained my reasons on other threads on this subject before, so I won't bore you lot by going through them all again.
I will say this, though; drink's safer than drugs because when you drink, you know exactly what's going to happen to you and you can take steps to prevent it, or at least to minimise the damage (e.g. drinking water or soft drinks between boozy ones to stop yourself getting drunk). You can't really say the same about drugs; they could have anything in them and once they're in your body, you can't stop whatever's going to happen. I certainly know what one I'll be sticking with.
There is not "drink, and drugs" drink is a drug, please be clear on this, there are txable drugs and untaxable drugs is all. Alcohol is one of THE most dangerous and toxic drugs around. As for the issue of adulteration, do you worry about what's in yer fags or booze? no, cos they are legal and quality controlled, exactly the same would be true for cannabis were it legal, not glue, shite, and god knows what. Would you know what you were drinking in the USA under prohibition?
It worries me how many people here take the petty laws of one tiny country as some sort of scientific Cuttoff point. Cannabis is bad cos it's ilegal, drink is good cos it isn't. Thing is, a pot head can go any number of places where it IS legal, where can a drinker go where drink is not a liver toxin.
And of course, next time you see Belfast ripped apart, see how many people are full of drink, and how many are tea-total pot smokers.
legalization will mean more control, an end to dodgy shite being sold and generate huge new tax revenues.
I already asked if anyone here would take it up if legalized and we've had NO takers, so the "increased use" argument falls down (as it did during prohibition of booze in the US).
Ever argument that can be offered against it is based, like yours on an upbringing in a country where it IS ilegal, and lumped in with things like H and ketamine. And that's another point....we tell children 2all drugs are bad, pot and coke are the same thing, just as evil"....so a chap takes a smoke of a joint, doesn't rape anyone, doesn't turn blue, doesn't have a single thing happen to him.....he then thinks he's been lied to, and treats all drugs as just as harmless....result, a Darwin award, like my mate who got Hooked on H and got himself killed....bad luck, we lost a fucktard is all.
booze is SO good for you, it nearly kiled my mother and lead to me living in hell for 5 years.
EDIT: sorry folks I'm only out me pit, reading that back it comes over as nastier and much more "at miss disco" than was intended. Sorry Miss, especially since I found out recently you are "nooler-1" the original y'might say. Another achievment for NI (and no English commentatoers around to steal it :D )
In short, yes.
Would I take it up if it were legal? No.
I like the premise of "government control" as far as legalization goes, but it toes a line in my head with the bangup job the government here is doing already with legal prescriptions being released without adaquate testing and study.
I don't have kids yet, but I don't intend to lie to them about drugs because I was lied to and I wound up testing a lot of stuff out of a purely curious nature. If my kids are going to play chemist, I want to be the one who tells them what to really expect and see if they are so keen on getting on with a lot of it.
Melly you fell in the vat anyway :D
Wise words bout yer kids. Personally I would fucking crack up if any kid of mine started smokin weed or drinking while still being educated, cos NO psychoactive of any kind should be allowed near your brain til it's good and ready. nothing more disgusting than a drunk 12 yrold, tellin you "fuck off cunt".
i WAS about to say your were being daft by comparing prescription drugs to it, since it's the big drug companies that push things out untested, despite the efforts of your FDA, I was also going to point out that most prescription drugs are complex compounds that do not occur in nature, and that weed is a flower (making god's creation a crime tut tut).
Then it occured to me that were it legal, as in totally openly legal, it wouldn;t be long before it got warped and weirded and altered like tobacco has been, new and interesting marketing ploys, delivery methods, the lot. Maybe the best option is like Holland, where it's not a criminal offence as such but under some circumstances you can still be done.
Still, those who believe it's wrong, do what Bill Hicks said, go home, take all your tapes and CD's and burn 'em, cos the guys that made all the wonderful music that has enhanced and enriched your life....REAL fuckin high on drugs. Just think if the police were effective in their anti-drugs measures and the law was 100% enforced, New Order would have been banged up LONG ago.
Hmmm... Tough question.
Maybe it should be legalised to over 21's only or something.
From what i've seen it really can interrupt social development particularly from an early stage of adolescence. Everyone knows a recluse on dope, whilst the majority have dabbled successfully and are completely unaffected (like me).
My brother was one of those who got hooked and freely admits it caused him pretty much to stay in and not get a job from the age of 16 to 24. I remember one New years eve he refused to go out because the pub he was invited to wouldnt allow him out for a quick smoke every half hour or so. He got the odd temporary job but got removed cos of his addiction, and had to resort to setting up a casual gardening business, using customers greenhouses to cultivate his habit.
He is now 31 and misses those years of youth/social development; making friends, etc. Alcohol is more physically damaging but at least it's an interactive drug on a social level ( although this might be because it's legal).
Perhaps the mental problems are caused by the illegality of it (i.e. it makes you insular), but I think it's more than that. No one takes ecstasy on their own and that's far more illegal.
Hell yes. I'd like to be able to grow a headache remedy in my garden. I'd like to have a legal pain reliever that does not burn a hole in my stomach and destroy my kidneys. Increase the fines for Driving While Stoned and Public Highness.
Yes we all know alcohol kills more, destroys more families and is harder on one's body. Why is it legal and weed illegal?
Jimll wrote:
GlasVegas wrote: No.
The drug choice of the terminally dull. We don't want to be encouraging them.
I think you may have just called a large % of NOOL's 'terminally dull'...and of course, New Order are therefore 'terminally dull'?
Not convinced G has. And I think you're wrong about the Order, I hardly think they're full-on potheads.
Which would then make them 'terminally dull'.
And I'd like to think a large % of NOOL'ers prefer something with just a bit more kick!
Al Jarvis wrote:
Jimll wrote:
GlasVegas wrote: No.
The drug choice of the terminally dull. We don't want to be encouraging them.
I think you may have just called a large % of NOOL's 'terminally dull'...and of course, New Order are therefore 'terminally dull'?
Not convinced G has. And I think you're wrong about the Order, I hardly think they're full-on potheads.
Which would then make them 'terminally dull'.
And I'd like to think a large % of NOOL'ers prefer something with just a bit more kick!
I'm with you on this one!
Al Jarvis wrote:
Jimll wrote:
GlasVegas wrote: No.
The drug choice of the terminally dull. We don't want to be encouraging them.
I think you may have just called a large % of NOOL's 'terminally dull'...and of course, New Order are therefore 'terminally dull'?
Not convinced G has. And I think you're wrong about the Order, I hardly think they're full-on potheads.
Which would then make them 'terminally dull'.
And I'd like to think a large % of NOOL'ers prefer something with just a bit more kick!
Well considering a "full on pot head" would be the analogue of a full time piss head, ie a totally worthless bum, I think yer right. But NO...the crisps and cola band? I think not.
Rian wrote: I think that alcohol kills more people every year than cannabis does.
I say no more....
Cheers!
That's because more people drink alcohol.... 
As for legality... not like anybody is doing anything about it over here anyways..
Problem is, if you legalize it, you'll have to live with the consequences of it, like addiction and other stuff... this is going to cost a lot more than it should.
But on some other way, I always wondered why drugs aren't allowed.. if you do them at home and you stay there while using them, who are we to say what you can do or not then?
Just avoid using them in society and nobody will ever complain!
how the heck can SIR Paul "The Prick" McCartney get a knighthood when it was well known that he was a daily pot smoker for 30 years?
what next, Pete Docherty - OBE?
john kershaw wrote: how the heck can SIR Paul "The Prick" McCartney get a knighthood when it was well known that he was a daily pot smoker for 30 years?
what next, Pete Docherty - OBE?
Liz knows old Vic was a toker you see :D
Steve Campbell wrote:
john kershaw wrote: how the heck can SIR Paul "The Prick" McCartney get a knighthood when it was well known that he was a daily pot smoker for 30 years?
what next, Pete Docherty - OBE?
Liz knows old Vic was a toker you see :D
not to mention dead sister Margie!
john kershaw wrote: how the heck can SIR Paul "The Prick" McCartney get a knighthood when it was well known that he was a daily pot smoker for 30 years?
Surely everyone loves Paul 'Fab Macca Wacca Thumbs Aloft' McCartney?
Christopher Owens wrote:
john kershaw wrote: how the heck can SIR Paul "The Prick" McCartney get a knighthood when it was well known that he was a daily pot smoker for 30 years?
Surely everyone loves Paul 'Fab Macca Wacca Thumbs Aloft' McCartney?
The only nice things I can say about him are that he put up with linda quite well ( have alluded before to the value of her monitor mix tapes....wow) and that he could play a Hofner, IN TIME, without actually dying from the pain. Seen him with a rickenbacker once, and apart from it looking 15 sizes too big for him, he handled it like lemmy.
Steve Campbell wrote: Seen him with a rickenbacker once, and apart from it looking 15 sizes too big for him, he handled it like lemmy.
