US punk

This is a hard decision. On one hand

The Clash Iggy Pop Television Sex Pistols Dropkick Murphies (Ok I'm American and Ireland IS a part of the UK)

And on the Other

Social Distortion Dead Kennedies Rancid The Misfits Black Flag Germs

UK punk has kind of died out, wheras US punk has kept going (though they do tend to sometimes sound like UK punk). The only thing about US punk that gets me is the political songs tend to be simple minded and boring lyrically. UK political punk is much more intruiging lyrically.

So my Answer: US punk except for politics UK punk for politics

In Offspring's defense, Smash is an excellent album, one of my fav punk albums of all time. Everything else they have done is so commercialized and IS crap.

Green Day just blows manly meat sausage.

JHC

68 Pontiac wrote: This is a hard decision. On one hand

The Clash Iggy Pop Television Sex Pistols Dropkick Murphies (Ok I'm American and Ireland IS a part of the UK)

And on the Other

Social Distortion Dead Kennedies Rancid The Misfits Black Flag Germs

you're not dividing them by country, are you? because iggy pop and television are both american.

WE ARE THE SONS OF REAGAN HEIL!!!!

Christopher Owens wrote:

Comrade Shampanyov, Gentleman wrote:

Bad Religion...Now there's a punk band, don't you think?

Never heard any of their stuff. Can you recommend some stuff?

advoid their most recent releases. Early stuff like fuck argemeddon... this is hell,no control, suffer, generator are must haves.

i was really into the 80's CBGB's Scene, really the Hardcore scene and noboy like the ramones, it was all bout the bad brains, Cro-Mags & Agnostic Front, every sunday they had the Hardcore matinee's there were huge fights, stabbings, im not sure if there were any shooting's while i was around. i saw all those bands a million times killing time(raw deal), leeway, rest in pieces, AF, D.R.I.(from Texas), Gorrilla biscuits, Absolution. not too many of the people were into any other punk, like west coast stuff, although a lot were into Metal bands like Slayer & Motorhead, or they Listened to Oi!

68 Pontiac wrote: This is a hard decision. On one hand

The Clash Iggy Pop Television Sex Pistols Dropkick Murphies (Ok I'm American and Ireland IS a part of the UK)

And on the Other

Social Distortion Dead Kennedies Rancid The Misfits Black Flag Germs

JHC

The Dropkick Murphys are from Boston.

Wow, guess I thought I knew what I listened to. My apologies for listing them wrong. Learn something new everyday. Thanks.

JHC

68 Pontiac wrote: Wow, guess I thought I knew what I listened to. My apologies for listing them wrong. Learn something new everyday. Thanks.

JHC

No biggie.. was surprised anyone had ever heard of them on this site.

Cath wrote:

68 Pontiac wrote: Wow, guess I thought I knew what I listened to. My apologies for listing them wrong. Learn something new everyday. Thanks.

JHC

No biggie.. was surprised anyone had ever heard of them on this site.

They were on with the Sex Pistols at Crystal Palace a few years ago. Seem to remember they had someone playing the bagpipes?

UK punk over US punk for me...Sex Pistols, Buzzcocks, (early) Banshees, Subway Sect, Adverts, Slits, X Ray Spex, Adam and the Ants...

Philip Collins wrote: UK punk over US punk for me...Sex Pistols, Buzzcocks, (early) Banshees, Subway Sect, Adverts, Slits, X Ray Spex, Adam and the Ants...

Thinking of Adam and the Ants, wish they made the Peel Show of the Ants on cd. That was by far the best album they ever put out. I have it on tape but can't figure out how to transfer it to my ipod. JHC

Christopher Owens wrote: Do you prefer it to UK punk? I probably would, due to:

Dead Kennedys Bad Brains Ramones

For me, post punk was more interesting than UK punk, but what's your opinions?

how to compare. Oi ! Punk- Dead Kennedys - In God you Trust-- Culture Shock ! Washed Up 99.

shiny Dead Kennedys sticker on a first *b-o-o-m-box..*ooo. probably prefer the anti- everything- edge that the UK seemed to give their tunes. even as politics suck/ think ethics/ get angry/ do something about it was the common theme.

Christopher Owens wrote: Do you prefer it to UK punk?

I probably would, due to:

Dead Kennedys Bad Brains Ramones

For me, post punk was more interesting than UK punk, but what's your opinions?

The DKs were a top band (though isn't their auto-karoke reincarnation a bit pathetic?), I played 'fresh fruit' to death. But have never cared for the Ramones, 'fraid to me they fall in to the 'all their songs sound the same' catagory. Plus they had too many conservatives in the band. Apart from the DKs I'd prefer UK punk any day.

What do you mean by 'post punk'? PIL? Gang of Four? Au Pairs? All good stuff.

Oh, and the thing about the Clash was that they were _such_ a bunch of posers, but they just posed so damn well you had to forgive them. And their politics were a bit naive, but at least it meant their songs were about something other than 'I luv you, I do'. Better naive politics than shite like "you're beautiful". Same goes for the Dead Kennedys. Never understood the big deal about Husker Du.

68 Pontiac wrote:

Philip Collins wrote: UK punk over US punk for me...Sex Pistols, Buzzcocks, (early) Banshees, Subway Sect, Adverts, Slits, X Ray Spex, Adam and the Ants...

Thinking of Adam and the Ants, wish they made the Peel Show of the Ants on cd. That was by far the best album they ever put out. I have it on tape but can't figure out how to transfer it to my ipod. JHC

It's twice been released on cd over here by the BBC/Strange Fruit - once without Deutscher Girls and Puerto Rican and once with. It's still available at UK Amazon though it shouldn't be too hard to pick up off eBay.

you can't beat a bit of Black Flag & Rollins!

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Christopher Owens wrote: Do you prefer it to UK punk?

I probably would, due to:

Dead Kennedys Bad Brains Ramones

For me, post punk was more interesting than UK punk, but what's your opinions?

What do you mean by 'post punk'? PIL? Gang of Four? Au Pairs? All good stuff.

a question i had as the ramones were founded in, what, 1974? very early punk, if anything!

Philip Collins wrote: It's twice been released on cd over here by the BBC/Strange Fruit - once without Deutscher Girls and Puerto Rican and once with. It's still available at UK Amazon though it shouldn't be too hard to pick up off eBay.

Hey went to ebay and the uk amazon, but only found it incassette tape. Are you talking about the Peel Show or the BBC recordings? I'm looking for the John Peel Show recordings.

JHC

68 Pontiac wrote:

Philip Collins wrote: It's twice been released on cd over here by the BBC/Strange Fruit - once without Deutscher Girls and Puerto Rican and once with. It's still available at UK Amazon though it shouldn't be too hard to pick up off eBay.

Hey went to ebay and the uk amazon, but only found it incassette tape. Are you talking about the Peel Show or the BBC recordings? I'm looking for the John Peel Show recordings.

JHC

It's the same thing! The Complete BBC Radio 1 Sessions (SFRSCD099) consists of the 3 Peel sessions plus a later session from the mid 90s. The Peel Sessions cd (SFRCD115) is missing two tracks from the first session and doesn't include the mid 90s session.

OH MY GOD Phil Collins on NOOL

State of Love and Trust wrote: OH MY GOD Phil Collins on NOOL

That's exactly what I thought!

I don't know how I totally missed this thread, but I agree that it would be tough (at least for me) to choose between US punk and UK punk.

It's all good, in my book. I'm going to have to check out some more albums, though, since you all listed some groups that I hadn't really explored. Thanks for the recommendations!

Christopher Owens, you may like to check out my mate's band ,Painsville.English punk.My mate is the drummer

Painsville -' LIFE IS PAIN' video

That wasn't bad, Johnny. Thanks for that.

they cover some JD songs , Transmission and She's Lost Control.They inivited me to sing Transmission at one gig a while back but i didn't have the bottle:\ohwell:

Johnny wrote: they cover some JD songs , Transmission and She's Lost Control.They inivited me to sing Transmission at one gig a while back but i didn't have the bottle:\ohwell:

I'm ashamed. You being a dead ringer for Ian.

M.D.C, how could I have forgotten them?

Philip Collins wrote: It's the same thing! The Complete BBC Radio 1 Sessions (SFRSCD099) consists of the 3 Peel sessions plus a later session from the mid 90s. The Peel Sessions cd (SFRCD115) is missing two tracks from the first session and doesn't include the mid 90s session.

THANKS!!!! I really miss thatalbum since I rarely listen to cassette anymore. I think that is theAnts at their best, even though it didn't have their biggest hits on it. I'll be sure to get this.

JHC

Phil, Just bought it on ebay for only a penny! Thanks alot!

By the way did anyone else already know Boz Boorer was in Adam & The Ants??? I never knew this before, but just saw his name in the credits. Interesting how music is interlinked. Listen to bands for years and then later find out they have some of the same members. I never linked A& The A with Morrissey. Cool.

JHC

68 Pontiac wrote:

Philip Collins wrote: It's the same thing! The Complete BBC Radio 1 Sessions (SFRSCD099) consists of the 3 Peel sessions plus a later session from the mid 90s. The Peel Sessions cd (SFRCD115) is missing two tracks from the first session and doesn't include the mid 90s session.

THANKS!!!! I really miss thatalbum since I rarely listen to cassette anymore. I think that is theAnts at their best, even though it didn't have their biggest hits on it. I'll be sure to get this.

JHC

Phil,

Just received the Adam and the Ants BBC cd. Exactly what I was looking for!!!! Thanks a million!!!!! It's so great to hear my favorites again. Thought that thing was only on tape and was so bummed. Anyone not heard this cd, got to check it out.

Thanks again Phil.

JHC

as far as bad religion goes, i always liked "against the grain." i have also been slowly getting into the damned, as of late...

but the real reason i was posting was to mention this time i was playing in a band. some record company flew us up to sf to play some industry party... i was 20, pumped full of soma and beer, and don't remember much aside from have to lift my guitar player of the bathroom floor of a denny's somewhere near north beach(?) and seeing beer-bellied jello jump on stage with some mexican punk/psyco-billy band that alternative tentacles had just signed... i remember thinking that jello needed to go for a run and that his freddy crugar pullover and glasses made him look like someone from the "tri-lamdas."