US punk

Do you prefer it to UK punk?

I probably would, due to:

Dead Kennedys Bad Brains Ramones

For me, post punk was more interesting than UK punk, but what's your opinions?

What a song.

Hmmmm... I think in the U.S., UK punk has greater cachet. Billy Joe made his career mimicking U.K. punk. That said, The Ramones are one of my top 5 all time favorites, and the U.K. punk scene was a direct response to The Ramones.

Was gutted when Joey died. Gutted again when Strummer died.

U.S. or U.K. punk? Hard to say...

If I can talk my friends into it, I'm going to ask them to take my photo at Joey Ramone Place tomorrow. Hope they brought their camera...

Christopher Owens wrote:

What a song.

Lucked out on seeing them once. Went to a club in SF, had no idea who was playing that night, turned out to be the DKs. What a show.

But there is the argument that the US had bands who were more political and had longevity, because the scene was so underexposed, while the opposite occured in the UK, where the tabloids jumped on the bandwagon.

Comrade Shampanyov, Gentleman wrote:

Lucked out on seeing them once. Went to a club in SF, had no idea who was playing that night, turned out to be the DKs. What a show.

I...HATE...YOU

Lucky bastard. What was Jello like?

OUT OF CONTROL!!!!! The venue was the On Broadway, the inside was done up in red velvet wallpaper, looked like a bordello. It was a great, great show! Too bad Jello and the rest of the band had that falling out.

Hey, I saw Jello do one of his spoken word performances last year; a friend had an extra ticket and gave it to me gratis. He ummm, doesn't care much for George Bush. But then you probably knew that. :)

When i think of US punk always the shit like offspring, green day and stuff like that spring to mind

Christopher Owens wrote: But there is the argument that the US had bands who were more political and had longevity, because the scene was so underexposed, while the opposite occured in the UK, where the tabloids jumped on the bandwagon.

Yeah, punk was hard to find here for a long time. When punk first hit, we didn't even really have a good idea of what it was. I mean, bands like AC/DC were being played alongside bands like The Adverts. I think bands like The Clash had to have influenced the politics of the U.S. bands, though.

One of the top 3 shows I've ever seen was a double bill: Social Distortion with The Ramones headlining.

Bad Religion...Now there's a punk band, don't you think?

I've heard he's the Michael Moore who does his research. Be good to see him and Henry Rollins on a tour.

Jello's working with the Melvins. They did a version of 'California Uber Allies' with the lyrics referencing Governer Ahrnold.

You're right. It is sad to see them fall out. This is interesting.

A crying shame that the remaining members have been reduced to this. :(

Happier days.

patrick stewart appreciation society wrote: When i think of US punk always the shit like offspring, green day and stuff like that spring to mind

Ditto

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patrick stewart appreciation society wrote: When i think of US punk always the shit like offspring, green day and stuff like that spring to mind

Ditto

Listen to the bands me and Comrade have listed.

Then come back and try typing that.

Comrade Shampanyov, Gentleman wrote:

Bad Religion...Now there's a punk band, don't you think?

Never heard any of their stuff. Can you recommend some stuff?

Christopher Owens wrote:

Comrade Shampanyov, Gentleman wrote:

Bad Religion...Now there's a punk band, don't you think?

Never heard any of their stuff. Can you recommend some stuff?

You can't be serious...

OK I only have three of their CDs... Stranger Than Fiction and The Gray Race, both top notch CDs, I also have Suffer, but I haven't listened to it in a while, so I can't tell you with absolute certainty that it's good, but my impression is that I've yet to come across a Bad Religion CD that wasn't good. Check 'em out.

Christopher Owens wrote:

Comrade Shampanyov, Gentleman wrote:

Bad Religion...Now there's a punk band, don't you think?

Never heard any of their stuff. Can you recommend some stuff?

I like their record "Stranger than Fiction"

Christopher Owens wrote:

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patrick stewart appreciation society wrote: When i think of US punk always the shit like offspring, green day and stuff like that spring to mind

Ditto

Listen to the bands me and Comrade have listed.

Then come back and try typing that.

I did listen. I never took The Ramones seriously: brief monotonous rock'n'roll melodies. Where's the anarchy, destroy-everything attitude? So what that they inspired the British punk-rockers? They are source material. They had long hair.

Dead Kennedys were quite fun. I remember their concert - people from the audience jumped up on the stage, ran thru and jumped back. It was hillariously chaotic :)

Ever since I've become an avid JD/NO fan, Brit Punk packs more punch than American Punk.

I think Christopher Owens will soon be posting a Bad Religion thread.

Here's another early San Francisco punk band that I'm sure at least one NOOLer can appreciate: The Avengers.

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Christopher Owens wrote:

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patrick stewart appreciation society wrote: When i think of US punk always the shit like offspring, green day and stuff like that spring to mind

Ditto

Listen to the bands me and Comrade have listed.

Then come back and try typing that.

I did listen. I never took The Ramones seriously: brief monotonous rock'n'roll melodies. Where's the anarchy, destroy-everything attitude? So what that they inspired the British punk-rockers? They are source material. They had long hair.

Dead Kennedys were quite fun. I remember their concert - people from the audience jumped up on the stage, ran thru and jumped back. It was hillariously chaotic :)

You just don't get it.

Christopher Owens wrote:

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patrick stewart appreciation society wrote: When i think of US punk always the shit like offspring, green day and stuff like that spring to mind

Ditto

Listen to the bands me and Comrade have listed.

Then come back and try typing that.

Thanks for the tip, but i have listened to them and i'm sorry to say but punk just ain't my bag

I'm not going to pick one over the other but there are good American punk bands that aren't the Offspring or Green Day. My favorite US punk band that is still alive and kicking would have to be Rancid. I also like Rancid side project the Transplants.

American punk had it's last death in 1985. No major bands just lots of small venue raiders. Still it was a great scene.

Twist's fave punk shows

The Clash Black Flag MDC Drednex T.A.R.

I never really cared for the second wave of the UK punk bands that much, especially the Oi! lot, but I did really go for the likes of Dead Kennedys, Husker Du, early Meat Puppets, Black Flag, Big Black, Naked Raygun, Crucifucks, Fear, Necros, Meatmen, etc.

The Kennedys were insane live, helluva good time, it's too bad that some neandrethals in Portland were the inspiration for their song Night Of The Living Rednecks, a true story of harrassment, with Jello being trapped inside a phone booth, which happened by the Kentucky Fried Chicken and Fred Meyer on Burnside (west side of the river) after a gig.

Right down the street from me, although there's no KFC there now. Rocket must've carted it off.

aye, green. husker du. now there's a band that many bands wish they could be.

how about the stooges? or patti smith, television, blondie, richard hell and the voidoids and lots of other max's kansas city and CBGB bands from 1974 onwards.

Bad Brains S/T might be the best hardcore punk LP of all time. HR recorded vocals to some songs over the phone from JAIL. Hard. Also, Bad Brains' homophobic/Rastafarian beliefs have no bearing on their legacy.

others to look into:

Cro-Mags Misfits Descendents/All Crucifucks DOA Agnostic Front Minor Threat Dag Nasty The Big Boys
Flipper Reagan Youth Naked Raygun

And if I may add a few of others...

Jodie Fosters Army (JFA)This was Bones Brigade member Stevie Caballero's skate band

Flipper

Murphy's Law (saw these guys at a strip mall bar in Cape Coral, Florida, we actually tore the dry wall, and ceiling tiles down! Lost a shirt and agined a black eye in the process.)

TSOL (True Sounds of Liberty)

and my favorite OINGO BOINGO!Long live Danny Elfman, Vatos rocks!

A great compilation on vinyl if you can find it, "Let Them Eat Jellybeans". For you youngsters its a reference to Ronaldus Maximus. It feature DK's, Black Flag and others mentioned before.

A lot of punk rock was tied to the skate scene. Living in a rather tucked away corner of Florida, Skateboareder mag and Thrasher were ties to the West Coast music scene after New York started to age out.

dav-O

also: Rocket from the Tombs, protopunk from 1973 to 75, split up, thus begat the Dead Boys and the godlike Pere Ubu.

AgentWood wrote: aye, green. husker du. now there's a band that many bands wish they could be.

To paraphrase MXC, right you are AgentWood.

How the hell did I forget Flipper? Generic Flipper is an all-time classic, and the locked groove 45 of Brainwash is an excellent way to get rid of unwanted people in the house.

All together now......It's Life! Life! Life is the only thing worth living for!!!!

How the hell did I forget the Dead Boys???????