So If people can drag themselves away from the new Killing Joke album, this is a fucking good listen.
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Thanks for that, I was gonna go to HMV during my lunch hour, now I will avoid it like the plague 
How touching of you to mention Killing Joke in the same space as Morrissey, but I'll pass.
First things first.
Snoopy wrote: Got the Morrissey album on Saturday, must admit its very impressive
Hector's House?
went into His Masters Voice to buy Killing Joke. £9.99. they were bleedin playin Morrissey over the tannoy. Fuck that. turn up the volume, and put the Joke on instead.
:p
J.A.K wrote: went into His Masters Voice to buy Killing Joke. £9.99. they were bleedin playin Morrissey over the tannoy. Fuck that. turn up the volume, and put the Joke on instead.
:p
I'm just sore cos you never did me a record reading - you heartless cad
I was waiting for the right cosmic circumstances.
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I am polishing my Balls now
You never did mine as well.
The first single you ever owned: Batdance - Prince
The first LP you ever owned: The Ultimate Movie Soundtrack
The first gig you went to: Red Hot Chili Peppers - Slaine Castle
The last gig you went to: Nine Black Alps, Spring and Airbrake
Most embarrassing record in your collection: My Oh My - Aqua
Your favourite LP: Killing Joke (1980)
Your favourite Video: Another Brick In The Wall - Pink Floyd
Your favourite piece of memorabilia in your collection: Technique, signed by Hooky
Join the back of the queue Owens!
The first single you ever owned: Pet Shop Boys - West End Girls The first LP you ever owned: Raiders of the Lost Chart (bad 80's compilation album) The first gig you went to: Mary J Blige The last gig you went to: New Order Manc v Cancer Most embarrassing record in your collection: Another Level Your favourite LP: Substance 1987 Your favourite Video: True Faith Your favourite piece of memorabilia in your collection: NO - Rare copy of Brotherhood. Non-NO - Hacienda 1st Birthday poster.
Gee Fanks Mister
Christopher Owens wrote:
Most embarrassing record in your collection: My Oh My - Aqua
None. coz i've always had good taste in music. Aqua. haha. i can't stop laughing Chris.
of course an equally valid explanation for having no embarrassing records is that he's just never worked out what a load of Ballix he's been buying 
Steve Campbell wrote: of course an equally valid explanation for having no embarrassing records is that he's just never worked out what a load of Ballix he's been buying
Well he like KJ, so I'll let him off.
budge over you pair of budgies.
The first single you ever owned: Message in a bottle by the Plod.
The first LP you ever owned: Double Fantasy by John Lennon
The first gig you went to: Stray Cats, Perth WA. bunked in. didn't pay.
The last gig you went to: Belle & Sebastien, Pool of Life, England.
Most embarrassing record in your collection: Would have said Movement by New Order. Except i aint got it. So, None.
Your favourite LP: Night Time by Killing Joke or Low Life by New Order
Your favourite Video: this is a bullshit question. maybe Eighties by Killing Joke.
Your favourite piece of memorabilia in your collection: Fuck all. not into all that crap.
Christopher Owens wrote:
J.A.K wrote:
The first LP you ever owned: Double Fantasy by John Lennon
i know i know. but i was 10 after all.
ANALOGUE Mike wrote:
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Nicely hijacked Mike!
He still writes great lyrics but the actual music is so hum drum ,mundane.Just cant listen to him without Johnny Marr
His voice was always the turn off with the Smiths for me....great lyrics, great music, but I dunno, his voice is.....hmmmm is "forced" the right word? unnatural, same as fat bob.
New Order really have done me irrepairable damage in terms of musical honesty.
I listened to "Pretty Girls Make Graves" on myspace. I think I know what you mean by forced voice, Cambo. But isn't the reason why Mozza's voice sounds forced is that his parents were from Ireland? I'm not a Mozza fan, Cambo, but I am curious with your input.
[magenta]cozmonite61[/magenta] wrote: But isn't the reason why Mozza's voice sounds forced is that his parents were from Ireland? I'm not a Mozza fan, Cambo, but I am curious with your input.
I think he means 'crap with no emotions.'
Johnny "Two Sheds" Jackson wrote: He still writes great lyrics but the actual music is so hum drum ,mundane.Just cant listen to him without Johnny Marr
But in all honesty, what has Marr done since 1987!? You'll find Moz solo much, much easier to listen to than Johnny's Boomslang album...
Steve Campbell wrote: Childhood exposure to Yoko Ono...help us stamp it out .
You are the man!
Christopher Owens wrote:
[magenta]cozmonite61[/magenta] wrote: But isn't the reason why Mozza's voice sounds forced is that his parents were from Ireland? I'm not a Mozza fan, Cambo, but I am curious with your input.
I think he means 'crap with no emotions.'
i.e depressingly fuckin dreary. yep!!!!
i sign up for the AMG ALL music latest release list. Disiswotdesay. ahhh
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check out the "moods" bottom left
Twatto wrote: Well i like it anyway Liam
Ditto 
A fantastic album and he seems to be on top form. Managing a number 3 single with fuck all airplay and next to no TV appearances is pretty impressive I thought. Life Is A Pigsty is the best track on the album so far (for me).
I understand what some people are saying about his backing music being a little uninspired but I don't really listen to a Morrissey album for groundbreaking sounds. It's pretty much accepted there's very few people out there (maybe Neil Tennant of PSB) who can write lyrics as well as him. It says it all when you read Hooky calling him a twat in one sentence but then admitting Morrissey's words are very very good in another.
I think folk who won't listen to Moz because Marr's no longer involved are depriving themselves of some bloody good albums and tunes. Vauxhall & I is up there with any Smiths LP as are Viva Hate and Your Arsenal.
Kill Uncle is shite mind, might want to avoid that one 
Roll on the gigs!
Uncle Liam wrote: too fookin right! roll on the gig!
two weeks to go!
What happened to typing properly, Liam?
And I thought it was rude to shout....?
Uncle Liam wrote: too fookin right! roll on the gig!
The gig?
Come now young Liam, you're doing all 400 dates aren't you?
All right smartarse. Think i'm doing 12 at the moment. Cant make aberdeen which is annoying, but have almost got tickets to oxford and birmingham, thanks the the NHS and my step dad having to work!
Uncle Liam wrote: All right smartarse. Think i'm doing 12 at the moment. Cant make aberdeen which is annoying, but have almost got tickets to oxford and birmingham, thanks the the NHS and my step dad having to work!
Oooooooh a few typo's in there Liam, and have you forgotten the apostrophe altogether?
I have not listened to the Dead since the first Saturday of February. And that was at a friends house. Its not all guitar jams, it is a blend of folk and country and rock.
Morrissey has put out quite a few good albums but this one is kinda shitty. Or maybe just boring - although I was kinda wasted and maybe expecting something better last night when I gave it a first listen. I'll have to throw it on later now that I'm sober and feeling like crap.
Twist, singer of the Blessing Way wrote: I have not listened to the Dead since the first Saturday of February. And that was at a friends house. Its not all guitar jams, it is a blend of folk and country and rock.
Don't forget jugband.
:barf:
[brown]alistair[/brown] wrote:
Twatto wrote: Well i like it anyway Liam
Kill Uncle is shite mind, might want to avoid that one
Its certainly not my favourite Moz album but there are few good songs in there. Our Frank, Sing Your Life, King Leer & Driving your girlfriend home.
King Leer? 
Kill uncle is so bad, i'm not sure i own a copy. I've think i have it on vinyl, but i borrowed the CD to somebody years ago and never bothered to get it back.
Christopher Owens wrote:
[magenta]cozmonite61[/magenta] wrote: But isn't the reason why Mozza's voice sounds forced is that his parents were from Ireland? I'm not a Mozza fan, Cambo, but I am curious with your input.
I think he means 'crap with no emotions.'
No, I meant that it's not his voice. Barney sings with his own voice, Hooky sings with his own voice. Mozzer doesn't...he sings with a made up "mozzer voice" likewise fat bob's is an Affectation. Dave gahan...made up, Martin Gore, real. Bowie...both.
See what I'm driving at?
If anyone wants to decide where Brian Ferry and Dylan fit in considering how they speak, work away :D
Steve Campbell wrote:
Christopher Owens wrote:
[magenta]cozmonite61[/magenta] wrote: But isn't the reason why Mozza's voice sounds forced is that his parents were from Ireland? I'm not a Mozza fan, Cambo, but I am curious with your input.
I think he means 'crap with no emotions.'
No, I meant that it's not his voice. Barney sings with his own voice, Hooky sings with his own voice. Mozzer doesn't...he sings with a made up "mozzer voice" likewise fat bob's is an Affectation. Dave gahan...made up, Martin Gore, real. Bowie...both.
See what I'm driving at?
If anyone wants to decide where Brian Ferry and Dylan fit in considering how they speak, work away :D
Bollocks. I'm think its likely that I've seen morrissey live more times than you steve, and from this i can tell you there is no way that Morrissey is singing in what you appear to be describing as a 'fake voice.' Whatever that is anyway. You know what he sounds like when he is singing? He sounds like steven patrick morrissey singing!
Have you ever thought that Bernard sings in his own voice because he's not a particularly great vocalist? And that Morrissey and Robert Smith are just better singers?
I never said he was a bad singer Liam, just that I personally do not like that style of forced voice (fake is too strong,sorry). His voice grates me is all, which is a sodding shame to be honest cos he's a remarkable songwriter.
As for Barney, you may be on to someting....but there's another possibility, I myself for instance sing in quite a light girlish voice because the only other "natural" one in me is a fucking terrifying operatic tenor that can rattle windows and ring ears.
Mayhaps Barney is secretly placido domingo on his days off?
Steve Campbell wrote: I never said he was a bad singer Liam, just that I personally do not like that style of forced voice (fake is too strong,sorry). His voice grates me is all, which is a sodding shame to be honest cos he's a remarkable songwriter.
As for Barney, you may be on to someting....but there's another possibility, I myself for instance sing in quite a light girlish voice because the only other "natural" one in me is a fucking terrifying operatic tenor that can rattle windows and ring ears.
Mayhaps Barney is secretly placido domingo on his days off?
In what way is it forced?
Uncle Liam wrote:
In what way is it forced?
dunno...just sounds that way to my ear.
Least he han't resorted to a retard compensator (or pitch corrector as they are also know) like our Barnster has of late.
Steve Campbell wrote:
Uncle Liam wrote:
In what way is it forced?
dunno...just sounds that way to my ear.
Least he han't resorted to a retard compensator (or pitch corrector as they are also know) like our Barnster has of late.
Any particular examples?
Uncle Liam wrote:
Steve Campbell wrote:
Uncle Liam wrote:
In what way is it forced?
dunno...just sounds that way to my ear.
Least he han't resorted to a retard compensator (or pitch corrector as they are also know) like our Barnster has of late.
Any particular examples?
Mozzer? no not realy it's just his style....maybe he really sounds that way I dunno.
Barney? Krafty STINKS of antares autotune.
to my ears Morrisey DOES have a forced voice when he gets to a certain range. Probably coz he cant do it naturally.
Kylie & Madonna do the same...but they get away with it because they have good buttocks.
~Morrissey gigs would scare me to death. coz whenever i've seen his gigs on the telly, its just fanatical 30 something blokes with flowers, who look like they're about to invade the stage and jump on his neck.
do any tarts go to his gigs?
J.A.K wrote: ~Morrissey gigs would scare me to death. coz whenever i've seen his gigs on the telly, its just fanatical 30 something blokes with flowers, who look like they're about to invade the stage and jump on his neck.
do any tarts go to his gigs?
Painful bearded lezzers most likely, wearing boiler suits and DM's.
Definitely Barney Army wrote: to my ears Morrisey DOES have a forced voice when he gets to a certain range. Probably coz he cant do it naturally.
Kylie & Madonna do the same...but they get away with it because they have good buttocks.
never thought of it like that, but I supppose it IS a kind of falsetto. All I know is, that for any normal human to make the same noise as Mozza, they have to pull some hellish odd throat and gob shapes.
having said that, he's a dead cert for number 1 album at the weekend. 20,000 sold so far.
KJ have sold about 85. haha
Steve Campbell wrote:
J.A.K wrote: ~Morrissey gigs would scare me to death. coz whenever i've seen his gigs on the telly, its just fanatical 30 something blokes with flowers, who look like they're about to invade the stage and jump on his neck.
do any tarts go to his gigs?
Painful bearded lezzers most likely, wearing boiler suits and DM's.
Wrong! although they are a few. Nice people though, a pair of them gave me a lift home after a gig a few years ago.
Some right little fitties at gigs the last few years. And at the Morrissey disco as well.
Fair play to ya Liam...at least you didn't deny their existence.
(but if they are nice, thay can't be painful...if they were, they'd kill you for being a man)
But thats his WORST song ever. And i include Striptease with a Difference in that. And Death At Ones Elbow.
J.A.K wrote: ~Morrissey gigs would scare me to death. coz whenever i've seen his gigs on the telly, its just fanatical 30 something blokes with flowers, who look like they're about to invade the stage and jump on his neck.
do any tarts go to his gigs?
Thats the impression I got. But when I went to see him at the You are the Quarry Tour the place was packed with young people my age and younger, male and female.
i still get the cold shakes when i think about the november spawned a monster video and him shagging that desert boulder in that black see thru shirt made out of womans tights.
guhhhhhhhh!!!!
that's when i decided RIP THE SMITHS!!! (now move on jk)
J.A.K wrote: ~Morrissey gigs would scare me to death. coz whenever i've seen his gigs on the telly, its just fanatical 30 something blokes with flowers, who look like they're about to invade the stage and jump on his neck.
Is it me or are Morrissey obsessives the very people who never saw the Smiths live and have got the Wrong End of the Stick as a result.
Too much of the myth and not enough of the reality?
Saw the Smiths once (Brixton Academy 85) and it was fcukin' BEDLAM! Few wankers but mainly just lads moshing.
Just like New Order were in their hey-day.
And Wolfram's arguably seen the Smiths more times than anyone here could ever remember and he's not exactly yer archetypal NHS spectacle wearing vegan in a cardigan, now is he?
too bloody right. And i remember the gigs on the last tour. Blackpool was like a riot. Leeds Festival was like a war with White Stripes fans, and the Move festival gig was just violent. Its always mayhem. Wouldnt go otherwise!
Uncle Liam wrote: too bloody right. And i remember the gigs on the last tour. Blackpool was like a riot. Leeds Festival was like a war with White Stripes fans, and the Move festival gig was just violent. Its always mayhem. Wouldnt go otherwise!
you remember the gigs on the last smiths tour? you went in your nappies, liam?
Definitely Barney Army wrote: Bloody New Order fans.......always banging on about the '80s
It's the only time any of us can remember with any clarity.
My long-term memory's untouchable but my short-term memor... er, fcuk, what am I doing at this keyboard? Whose desk is this?! Where am I?!
Uncle Liam wrote: dont you have work to be doing? :D
it's wednesday--no students 'til 1:00 now. what's YOUR excuse, son?
Many excuses actually:
1- Cant Be Arsed 2- I hate my job 3- I'm a manager with a very good position in the office for skiving 4- Everyone else is really busy 5- Its much more interesting to annoy everyone on here than it is to teach some idiot, (in this case, our HR manager!) what equity is.
AgentWood wrote:
Al Jarvis wrote: Haven't you two got MSN?!
not at work.
why? jealous?
Er, Liam's a nice lad, but he's so not my type.
Al Jarvis wrote:
AgentWood wrote:
Al Jarvis wrote: Haven't you two got MSN?!
not at work.
why? jealous?
Er, Liam's a nice lad, but he's so not my type.
*whistles*
Back to the original topic,
Just bought the album today. Quite excited as I was skipping through the songs and they all have a certian catchiness. His albums always need a few listens before I can really enjoy them, but this one is looking REALLY good.
And for all those that hate the Moz, my condolances. . .but I find it surprising since everyone I've ever met in real life that loves NO, loves the Moz. . .maybe are there some fake NO fans out there?????
JHC
68 Pontiac wrote: Back to the original topic,
Just bought the album today. Quite excited as I was skipping through the songs and they all have a certian catchiness. His albums always need a few listens before I can really enjoy them, but this one is looking REALLY good.
And for all those that hate the Moz, my condolances. . .but I find it surprising since everyone I've ever met in real life that loves NO, loves the Moz. . .maybe are there some fake NO fans out there?????
JHC
or forced new order fans
Aunt Lillian wrote:
Bollocks. I'm think its likely that I've seen morrissey live more times than you steve, and from this i can tell you there is no way that Morrissey is singing in what you appear to be describing as a 'fake voice.' Whatever that is anyway. You know what he sounds like when he is singing? He sounds like steven patrick morrissey singing!
Have you ever thought that Bernard sings in his own voice because he's not a particularly great vocalist? And that Morrissey and Robert Smith are just better singers?
Flip's sake. What happened to the Caps Lock?
Didn't you start a thread moaning about the use of text writing and the low standards of writing on the board?
Can everyone go and buy this, make it a triple platinum seller, then he can retire and go away!
ive played the album twice.its o.k. back in the day i was heavily into smiths.havent followed his solo as much and only have 4 of his albums but some belting tracks on them. his lyrics are unique,he is a legend.everybody knows his voice.i like his voice and no one could sing his songs better.forced or otherwise
as for any suggestion that smiths fans might be a bit girly,i was at preston guild hall in 1985 and it got stopped after just 2 minutes because of crowd trouble
get down the blackburn king georges gig and call people girly
Craig W wrote: Can everyone go and buy this, make it a triple platinum seller, then he can retire and go away!
[brown]alistair[/brown] wrote:
Craig W wrote: Can everyone go and buy this, make it a triple platinum seller, then he can retire and go away!
Couldn't agree more!
Did any of you know that Jesse Tobais, Morrissey guitar player, was in the RHCP and played with Alanis Morrsette?
Craig W wrote: Can everyone go and buy this, make it a triple platinum seller, then he can retire and go away!
and will you chip in ? take time out to listen to the mans lyric, you may grow to like them even.
bansheeman wrote:
68 Pontiac wrote: Back to the original topic,
Just bought the album today. Quite excited as I was skipping through the songs and they all have a certian catchiness. His albums always need a few listens before I can really enjoy them, but this one is looking REALLY good.
And for all those that hate the Moz, my condolances. . .but I find it surprising since everyone I've ever met in real life that loves NO, loves the Moz. . .maybe are there some fake NO fans out there?????
JHC
or forced new order fans
Could be. . .possibly. . .mmmmmmmmmm... interesting thought.
Still listening to the Morrissey album,it just gets better and better and then even more betterer.
spam wrote: Still listening to the Morrissey album,it just gets better and better and then even more betterer.
Hope to get this next week but it will only be a COPY.What difference does it make?
Moz has been performing a song called "My Life Is A Succession Of People Saying Goodbye". I don't know this one, is it a new b-side
Snoopy wrote: Moz has been performing a song called "My Life Is A Succession Of People Saying Goodbye". I don't know this one, is it a new b-side
It's a b-side from the First Of The Gang To Die single.
It isn't the best. His tour in 2002 had a great setlist as did his Christmas gigs at the end of the YATQ tour.
