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whether or not you want to become a set of udders or not you'll be treated that way by your doctor...

niice way to not recognize women who may choose alternate paths in life.

another way that women are told all along that having crotch fruit is normal and that if they want something more in life than that then they are deficient and will grow up and change their mind some day.

edit: aww shit. even I can't go through with the above windup. But still the article is interesting.

Forever Pregnant Guidelines: Treat Nearly All Women as Pre-Pregnant

By January W. Payne Washington Post Staff Writer Tuesday, May 16, 2006; HE01

New federal guidelines ask all females capable of conceiving a baby to treat themselves -- and to be treated by the health care system -- as pre-pregnant, regardless of whether they plan to get pregnant anytime soon.

Among other things, this means all women between first menstrual period and menopause should take folic acid supplements, refrain from smoking, maintain a healthy weight and keep chronic conditions such as asthma and diabetes under control.

While most of these recommendations are well known to women who are pregnant or seeking to get pregnant, experts say it's important that women follow this advice throughout their reproductive lives, because about half of pregnancies are unplanned and so much damage can be done to a fetus between conception and the time the pregnancy is confirmed.

The recommendations aim to "increase public awareness of the importance of preconception health" and emphasize the "importance of managing risk factors prior to pregnancy," said Samuel Posner, co-author of the guidelines and associate director for science in the division of reproductive health at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), which issued the report.

Other groups involved include the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists, the March of Dimes, Dartmouth Hitchcock Medical Center, the National Center for Chronic Disease Prevention's Division of Reproductive Health and the National Center on Birth Defects and Developmental Disabilities.

The idea of preconception care has been discussed for nearly 20 years, experts said, but it has drawn more attention recently. Progress toward further reducing the rate of unhealthy pregnancy results, including premature birth, low birthweight and infant mortality, has slowed in the United States since 1996 "in part because of inconsistent delivery and implementation of interventions before pregnancy to detect, treat and help women modify behaviors, health conditions and risk factors that contribute to adverse maternal and infant outcomes," according to the report.

Nearly 28,000 U.S. infants died in 2003, according to the National Center for Health Statistics (NCHS). The infant mortality rate increased in 2002 for the first time in more than 40 years to seven deaths per 1,000 live births, but it did not change significantly in 2003. Birth defects, low birthweight and sudden infant death syndrome (SIDS) were the leading causes of infant death in 2003, according to NCHS.

The U.S. infant mortality rate is higher than those of most other industrialized nations -- it's three times that of Japan and 2.5 times those of Norway, Finland and Iceland, according to a report released last week by Save the Children, an advocacy group.

Preconception care should be delivered by any doctor a patient sees -- from her primary care physician to her gynecologist. It involves developing a "reproductive health plan" that details if and when children are planned, said Janis Biermann, a report co-author and vice president for education and health promotion at the March of Dimes.

"The recommendations say we need to be opportunistic," or deliver care and counseling when opportunities arise, said Merry-K. Moos, a professor in the University of North Carolina's maternal fetal medicine division who sat on the CDC advisory panel. "Healthier women have healthier pregnancies."

Women should also make sure all vaccinations are up-to-date and avoid contact with lead-based paints and cat feces, Biermann said.

The report recommends that women stop smoking and discuss with their doctor the danger alcohol poses to a developing fetus.

Research shows that "during the first few weeks (before 52 days' gestation) of pregnancy" -- during which a woman may not yet realize she's pregnant -- "exposure to alcohol, tobacco and other drugs; lack of essential vitamins (e.g., folic acid); and workplace hazards can adversely affect fetal development and result in pregnancy complications and poor outcomes for both the mother and the infant," the report states.

The CDC report also discusses disparities in care, noting that approximately 17 million women lack health insurance and are likely to postpone or forgo care. These disparities are more prominent among minority groups and those of lower socioeconomic status, the report states.

The NCHS data also reflect these disparities. Babies born to black mothers, for example, had the highest rate of infant death -- 13.5 per 1,000 live births. Infants born to white women had a death rate of 5.7 per 1,000.

Obstacles to preconception care include getting insurance companies to pay for visits and putting the concept into regular use by doctors and patients. Experts acknowledge that women with no plans to get pregnant in the near future may resist preconception care.

"We know that women -- unless you're actively planning [a pregnancy], . . . she doesn't want to talk about it," Biermann said. So clinicians must find a "way to do this and not scare women," by promoting preconception care as part of standard women's health care, she said.

Some medical facilities have already found a way to weave preconception care in with regular visits. At Montefiore Medical Center in Bronx, N.Y., a form that's filled out when checking a patient's height, weight and blood pressure prompts nurses to ask women, "Do you smoke, and do you plan to become pregnant in the next year? And if not, what birth control are you using?"

"It's a simple way of getting primary care providers to think about preconception care," said Peter Bernstein, a maternal fetal medicine specialist who sat on the advisory committee that helped produce the report. "It's simple and [it] costs nothing." ·

Comments: paynej@washpost.com.

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ChrissMari wrote: edit: aww shit. even I can't go through with the above windup.

Moving on from college then? :evil4:

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yeh, but they're also pre-dead. So may as well booze & smoke, coz death is sometimes not planned.

errr, to put a slightly negative on the article :\ohwell:

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Barney Army wrote: yeh, but they're also pre-dead. So may as well booze & smoke, coz death is sometimes not planned.

errr, to put a slightly negative on the article :\ohwell:

exactly.

it's kind of a weird idea..

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Comrade Shampanyov, Gentleman wrote:

ChrissMari wrote: edit: aww shit. even I can't go through with the above windup.

Moving on from college then? :evil4:

people in glass houses or something...

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:confused3: what?

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[magenta]shedmonite61[/magenta] wrote: :confused3: what?

basically they think doctors should treat us (and we should treat ourselves) as if we will get pregnant at any minute so that the little crotch fruits will be healthy and happy.

It's an interesting idea, but it still kind of reinforces the notion that we all have to be living to drop one.

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ChrissMari wrote:

Comrade Shampanyov, Gentleman wrote:

ChrissMari wrote: edit: aww shit. even I can't go through with the above windup.

Moving on from college then? :evil4:

people in glass houses or something...

Or something. Whilst you were nailing up the LUG manifesto, I was busy composing my manifesto of LUGs I'd Nail, but then I realized I can't be arsed. :shrug:

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so dose that mean all men are pre inseminating?

just that concept really bakes my noodle

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Grateful Shed wrote: so dose that mean all men are pre inseminating?

Yep. :)

Bit different biology, though, what with the fetus residing in the woman.

Half of all pregnancies end in miscarriage, without the woman ever being aware she was pregnant. According to this article, half of all successful pregnancies are unplanned. So from a pre-natal care standpoint, raising the awareness of women is a good thing.

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Surely this is a different way of advising people to stay healthy?

Staying healthy for having a baby means that you're healthy for other things like housework and sex.

Fit, healthy women are more useful. More attractive too.

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[black]Diamond[/black] wrote: Surely this is a different way of advising people to stay healthy?

Staying healthy for having a baby means that you're healthy for other things like housework and sex.

Fit, healthy women are more useful. More attractive too.

I dunno to me it smells more likt eh Nazi ideology of keeping the women at home popping out the puppies. They had a name for it that eludes me, some wonderfully nazi sloganistic name, like those the US and UK Govt are obsessed with these days......

("HM treasuryin:fucking you in the ass" for instance.)

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Steve, that's just geeky, proley paranoia.

It's the responsibility of good governments to promote healthier lifestyles. Not just for moral reasons either, it costs less to have healthy citizens.

And it's the job of people sitting in front of computers to mistrust their motives and think that it's part of some massive conspiracy to turn us all into naked, hairless morons who live in baths of chemicals and have cables stabbed into our heads.

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[black]Diamond[/black] wrote: Steve, that's just geeky, proley paranoia.

It's the responsibility of good governments to promote healthier lifestyles. Not just for moral reasons either, it costs less to have healthy citizens.

And it's the job of people sitting in front of computers to mistrust their motives and think that it's part of some massive conspiracy to turn us all into naked, hairless morons who live in baths of chemicals and have cables stabbed into our heads.

LOL tis the natural order of things indeed :D In my defence, I mistrust the true conspiracy nuts just as much, I am the paranoia MACHINE matey!

Paranoia is merely awareness on a finer scale. Just cos yer paranoid doesn't they AREN'T out to get you. I'm not actually paranoid, it just that you all think I am

etc etc :D

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[black]Diamond[/black] wrote: It's the responsibility of good governments to promote healthier lifestyles.

So how come it's always the people who have "healthy" lifestyles who die first, while the ones who don't exercise, eat fried food etc. live for years? In my country, you get teenagers dropping dead on rugby pitches and England had a 16-year-old die of breast cancer last year (the youngest woman ever to die from it, for the record). That, to me, proves that we're all being conned by the so-called "experts". I once heard all this health "advice" being described as Puritanism in another guise and I don't think that's so far from the truth.

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Miss Disco wrote:

[black]Diamond[/black] wrote: It's the responsibility of good governments to promote healthier lifestyles.

So how come it's always the people who have "healthy" lifestyles who die first, while the ones who don't exercise, eat fried food etc. live for years? In my country, you get teenagers dropping dead on rugby pitches and England had a 16-year-old die of breast cancer last year (the youngest woman ever to die from it, for the record). That, to me, proves that we're all being conned by the so-called "experts". I once heard all this health "advice" being described as Puritanism in another guise and I don't think that's so far from the truth.

So you recommend drink, drugs, fags and lounging around for a long life?

Ace!

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Well, I know who i'm coming to for health advice in the future!

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Uncle Liam wrote: Well, I know who i'm coming to for health advice in the future!

ME?:lol:

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SHED wrote:

Uncle Liam wrote: Well, I know who i'm coming to for health advice in the future!

ME?:lol:

Nah, with yr new healthy(er) lifestyle you're on a slippery slope, by the look of things, Mick... :lol:

SHEDi xxx

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