Hezbollah...

... Fucking Cunts If you ask me

very wealthy cunts, with lots of support from various nations.

I got approached today, by an Islamic charitable organisation ollecting in aid of Lebanese people displaced by the recent campaign.

I took him to task and ended up getting into a full blown argument.

I asked him the following questions, without any decent answers.

i) Why is a Moslem charity collecting money for a largely Christian country?

ii) Why are most Moslems fundamentally opposed to Israel and its existence?

iii) Why do Hezbollah, a supposedly Shia Moslem organisation,choose to hide themselves amongst an alien (i.e. Lebanese civilian population), if Islam is so peaceful?

iv) and do you really think I'm that f_____ stupid to believe that any money i donate will go into Lebanese relief efforts?

v) What's wrong with donating to the Red Cross?

Be wary out there folks..

Mebbe I'm just being over-suspicious.. I dunno.

'Hezbollah, Nooooooooooooo, we will not let him go,'Hezbollah, Nooooooooooooo, we will not let him go, Beelzebub has a devil put aside for meeeeeeee'

I also got approached by people today asking me to donate to charity on behalf on the Palestinan people.

I told them to go fuck themselves.

Uncle Liam wrote: I also got approached by people today asking me to donate to charity on behalf on the Palestinan people.

I told them to go fuck themselves.

Hey.. I would donate possibly, to a fund for either Palestinians or Lebanese.. Lotta sympathy there all round.

BUT.. need to know its going in the right hands. Red Cross are fine by me.

I just find it bizarre that a charity, idealogically opposed to Judaism can offer to help out a largely Christian nation.

I did ask him if such a fund was set up after 911, and he said he didn't know.

Burt Reynolds wrote:

Uncle Liam wrote: I also got approached by people today asking me to donate to charity on behalf on the Palestinan people.

I told them to go fuck themselves.

Hey.. I would donate possibly, to a fund for either Palestinians or Lebanese.. Lotta sympathy there all round.

BUT.. need to know its going in the right hands. Red Cross are fine by me.

I just find it bizarre that a charity, idealogically opposed to Judaism can offer to help out a largely Christian nation.

I did ask him if such a fund was set up after 911, and he said he didn't know.

Wow, finally agree with you on something. Good actions you both took. That does sound a bit fishy.

JHC

Burt Reynolds wrote: I got approached today, by an Islamic charitable organisation ollecting in aid of Lebanese people displaced by the recent campaign.

I took him to task and ended up getting into a full blown argument.

I asked him the following questions, without any decent answers.

i) Why is a Moslem charity collecting money for a largely Christian country?

ii) Why are most Moslems fundamentally opposed to Israel and its existence?

iii) Why do Hezbollah, a supposedly Shia Moslem organisation,choose to hide themselves amongst an alien (i.e. Lebanese civilian population), if Islam is so peaceful?

iv) and do you really think I'm that f_____ stupid to believe that any money i donate will go into Lebanese relief efforts?

v) What's wrong with donating to the Red Cross?

Be wary out there folks..

Mebbe I'm just being over-suspicious.. I dunno.

No, I think you did the right thing in not giving anything. You have no proof of where that money is going. Although, it's probably just as likely to go towards drugs and partying that night as it is to go towards humanitarian aid... or to Hezbollah weapons for that matter.

EDIT: Also, regarding question 2, I'd venture to say that MOST Moslems have no problem with the existence of Israel. Although they might have a problem with some of the things Israelis have done against Moslems.

So persons seeking charity donations are all spending the money on partying? Or is it just the brown skinned ones who do that?

I tend to agree that this was a little fishy myself, but the instant suspicion that anyone brown must be up to no good is a bit much.

Of course, in fairness I have to admit that the IRA were funded in great part via this exact means, but I should also point out they were/are pale blue not brown.

both bunches of terrorists if you ask me, israel, well the current form of israel, formed by a bunch of terrorists, against another terrorists, wish they both get sense in their silly little heads before they imflame a war

^ wisdom

Doctor? wrote: So persons seeking charity donations are all spending the money on partying? Or is it just the brown skinned ones who do that?

Did I say anything about them being brown? I don't think the person telling the story even mentioned if they were brown or not.

Also, I didn't say that was where the money was most likely going. I said it's just as likely to go there as anywhere else, i.e. you can't have any idea where it's going because you don't really know who they were or their motives.

If someone comes up to me claiming to collect donations for a group I've never heard of, I'm going to be suspicious. I couldn't care less if they're black, white, brown, English, Spanish, Brazilian, Moslem, Hindu, Catholic, Southern Baptist, gay, straight, or transexual Sikhs.

Uncle Liam wrote: ... Fucking Cunts If you ask me

I think Israel is winning in the cunt stakes seeing as they just blew up a load of kids who had no hope of escaping...

...not that HezB is that much better...

Craig W wrote:

Uncle Liam wrote: ... Fucking Cunts If you ask me

I think Israel is winning in the cunt stakes seeing as they just blew up a load of kids who had no hope of escaping...

...not that HezB is that much better...

There sure are cunts on both sides.

I don't think this issue will be solved at all. Never.

Burt Reynolds wrote: I got approached today, by an Islamic charitable organisation ollecting in aid of Lebanese people displaced by the recent campaign.

I took him to task and ended up getting into a full blown argument.

I asked him the following questions, without any decent answers.

i) Why is a Moslem charity collecting money for a largely Christian country?

Last time I stepped out the door this was a largely secular country, not "Christian". Perhaps I missed something?

(The Good Doctor) Martin Fradley wrote:

Burt Reynolds wrote: I got approached today, by an Islamic charitable organisation ollecting in aid of Lebanese people displaced by the recent campaign.

I took him to task and ended up getting into a full blown argument.

I asked him the following questions, without any decent answers.

i) Why is a Moslem charity collecting money for a largely Christian country?

Last time I stepped out the door this was a largely secular country, not "Christian". Perhaps I missed something?

that is right, but what do people say they are when they get asked about their religion. 3/4 here will probably put down christian in their census form here next week, even if they are lucky to visit a church once a year and haven't got a foggiest what Christianity is all about.

it is what people identify with, not what they actually are, so technically this is still a christian country no matter the actual reality. i think it is the same in all western countries.

Uncle Liam wrote: ... Fucking Cunts If you ask me

concerning all wild east. I can't get it.

Burt Reynolds wrote:

Uncle Liam wrote: I also got approached by people today asking me to donate to charity on behalf on the Palestinan people.

I told them to go fuck themselves.

Hey.. I would donate possibly, to a fund for either Palestinians or Lebanese.. Lotta sympathy there all round.

BUT.. need to know its going in the right hands. Red Cross are fine by me.

I just find it bizarre that a charity, idealogically opposed to Judaism can offer to help out a largely Christian nation.

I did ask him if such a fund was set up after 911, and he said he didn't know.

Lebanon is largely moslem tho. Well there has been no accurate census in a dogs age but population projections indicate the moslem's have likely surpassed catholics as a percentage of the population

That said, the money is probably to fund Hezbollah anyway so good on you for not donating. The UK govt has turned a blind eye to the Hezbollah within its borders. Maybe this current war will force your govt to kick them the fuck out already

lebanon is roughly 60% muslim and 40% christian (give or take a few). the bombings have united the two factions for the first time in decades. strange bedfellows considering they were trying to destroy one another in the early '80s.

(The Good Doctor) Martin Fradley wrote:

Burt Reynolds wrote: I got approached today, by an Islamic charitable organisation ollecting in aid of Lebanese people displaced by the recent campaign.

I took him to task and ended up getting into a full blown argument.

I asked him the following questions, without any decent answers.

i) Why is a Moslem charity collecting money for a largely Christian country?

Last time I stepped out the door this was a largely secular country, not "Christian". Perhaps I missed something?

Secular countries don't dictate the religion of their leaders. The president must be Catholic...and there's a certain number of moslems that have to in in different posts as well. Can't remember off the top of my head....I'm sure wikipedia has a breakdown

(The Good Doctor) Martin Fradley wrote:

Burt Reynolds wrote: I got approached today, by an Islamic charitable organisation ollecting in aid of Lebanese people displaced by the recent campaign.

I took him to task and ended up getting into a full blown argument.

I asked him the following questions, without any decent answers.

i) Why is a Moslem charity collecting money for a largely Christian country?

Last time I stepped out the door this was a largely secular country, not "Christian". Perhaps I missed something?

burt was referring to lebanon...not the UK.

(The Good Doctor) Martin Fradley wrote:

Burt Reynolds wrote: I got approached today, by an Islamic charitable organisation ollecting in aid of Lebanese people displaced by the recent campaign.

I took him to task and ended up getting into a full blown argument.

I asked him the following questions, without any decent answers.

i) Why is a Moslem charity collecting money for a largely Christian country?

Last time I stepped out the door this was a largely secular country, not "Christian". Perhaps I missed something?

You've moved to Lebanon, Fradders?

ok.. the figures on the news i saw were something like 50% Christian, 40% Moslem 10% assorted others. I'm sure that these figures were not set in stone.

What ever the figures are, its pretty much split down the middle.

I got approached off a couple of middle class scruffy, student twats in Durham yesterday asking to sign some shite left wing Palastine pro Muslim non-democratic organisation/charity.& support (ie: give cash) some refugee or other. When i replied NO I AM Pro-Jewish 7 right-wing(not anti-Muslim however) the stupid bint went into one. Daft cow. You would think i had just said i was in the NF or summat. Maybe it was my Ulster Red Hand flag & St. Georges Cross badges on but still.. I just carn't be doing with em'

Burt Reynolds wrote:

(The Good Doctor) Martin Fradley wrote:

Burt Reynolds wrote: I got approached today, by an Islamic charitable organisation ollecting in aid of Lebanese people displaced by the recent campaign.

I took him to task and ended up getting into a full blown argument.

I asked him the following questions, without any decent answers.

i) Why is a Moslem charity collecting money for a largely Christian country?

Last time I stepped out the door this was a largely secular country, not "Christian". Perhaps I missed something?

You've moved to Lebanon, Fradders?

Ah, my mistake. Still, just seen on the news that 54 civilians were killed by Israeli missiles today. Which is surely the statistic that counts, eh? Bombs generally aren't religous bigots last I heard.

Andrew Sayer wrote: I got approached off a couple of middle class scruffy, student twats in Durham yesterday asking to sign some shite left wing Palastine pro Muslim non-democratic organisation/charity.& support (ie: give cash) some refugee or other. When i replied NO I AM Pro-Jewish 7 right-wing(not anti-Muslim however) the stupid bint went into one. Daft cow. You would think i had just said i was in the NF or summat. Maybe it was my Ulster Red Hand flag & St. Georges Cross badges on but still.. I just carn't be doing with em'

Hope you ain't going to see the Primals on their next tour 'cos they've had pro-Palestinian groups handing out leaflets inside their gigs for at least the last decade....

(The Good Doctor) Martin Fradley wrote: Bombs generally aren't religous bigots last I heard.

No bombs are devices that maim people. Hezbollah sent over 90 of them yesterday too. Not really understanding your point there, Fradders.

Mr disco 99 wrote:

Doctor? wrote: So persons seeking charity donations are all spending the money on partying? Or is it just the brown skinned ones who do that?

Did I say anything about them being brown? I don't think the person telling the story even mentioned if they were brown or not.

Also, I didn't say that was where the money was most likely going. I said it's just as likely to go there as anywhere else, i.e. you can't have any idea where it's going because you don't really know who they were or their motives.

If someone comes up to me claiming to collect donations for a group I've never heard of, I'm going to be suspicious. I couldn't care less if they're black, white, brown, English, Spanish, Brazilian, Moslem, Hindu, Catholic, Southern Baptist, gay, straight, or transexual Sikhs.

Sorry bout that, I put 2 and 2 together and got about 17 and 1/2.

Doctor? wrote: Sorry bout that, I put 2 and 2 together and got about 17 and 1/2.

Heheh. It's OK. :)

You don't bomb children or shell civilians. Nobody seems to learn this. I understand Israel's need to stop the rocket attacks but for the love of peace please do not kill children. Might as well get Sir A Harris and Curtis LeMay to direct the bombers if this is the course they want to take.

I'm really trying to give up having any opinions on this topic. I was bought up to have strong knee-jerk reactions and now find I have to keep reminding myself (a) its all way more insanely complicated than I was bought up to believe and (b) it's not really my business.

All I will say is that the enthusiasm that both Israel and the Iran/Syria backed Hezbollah seem to have for this conflict makes me think of two gangs of rival football hooligans amicably arranging to have a huge violent punch up. The poor bugger Lebanese being the unfortunate locals who happen to live in the neighbourhood chosen as the venue.

Plus I agree with the guy on radio four who pointed out that 'Hezbollah' sounds like something one should say when performing some sort of magic trick.

404 error wrote: I have to keep reminding myself (a) its all way more insanely complicated than I was bought up to believe and (b) it's not really my business.

There's nothing like having an inqusitive and questioning mindset eh?

Doctor? wrote: So persons seeking charity donations are all spending the money on partying?

No, they're using it all to pay the people who work for the charity. That's why I don't give too often.

its time the fighting stopped, too many people have been killed already Israel will have to agree to release its prisoners and ultimately trade illegally occupied land for peace. Just like the UK government agreed to release all the IRA prisoners, its just something that has to be done to break the never-ending cycle of violence. We could argue all day about whos right and wrong but the road map for peace and a viable two state solution needs to happen. If Bush wanted to do it he could force all involved to the negotiating table.

404 error wrote:

Plus I agree with the guy on radio four who pointed out that 'Hezbollah' sounds like something one should say when performing some sort of magic trick.

ok. now that's funny.

GlasVegas wrote:

404 error wrote: I have to keep reminding myself (a) its all way more insanely complicated than I was bought up to believe and (b) it's not really my business.

There's nothing like having an inqusitive and questioning mindset eh?

Indeed. Having been bought up to belive it _was_ my business, I have since questioned that belief!