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Stumbled on this by accident tonight.Too incredible for words,but a thought-provoking P.S. for anyone who watched the recently released clip of the "plane" that hit the Pentagon...
If you've got the time (1 hr 29 mins),it's definitely worth the watch. Left a bad taste in the mouth.There'll be a large rally of people in Manhattan on Monday 11th September.
It's almost as full of shit as the US Govt. Couple of major factual errors in it as well as bending time in the edit room.
Example: To support the assertion that buildings do not fall down when struck by aircraft, they bring up the Empire State building's accident in the 40's. They say it surrvived a direct impact with a B52...a HUGE 8 (jet)engined monster larger than a 747. In fact it was a B25, a MUCH smaller, wooden hulled, piston engined plane, a VERY different prospect for coliding with a building.
Having said that, this movie asks some VREY good questions even if it does not always offer god answers. In particular, listing the number of full motion colour cameras covering the face of the Pentagon which was hit...yet the "only" pictures available are those recently released which show fuck all.....despite the FBI and CIA sezing all the tapes from the other cameras, so they have them.
I would never have question the facts,if only for that recent film footage of the Pentagon.I was stuggling to find a plane on it.
Here is a good article from a completely unbiased magazine, and one that I think that can credibily debunk all these damn conspericy theories:
http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/defense/1227842.html
JHC
I had this link as my signature for ages-only changed it 2 weeks ago. When i first saw it i was pretty much convinced,hence the signature. However as time passes and things move on,i doubt it was in inside job now. Or is that how the US Goverment want me to feel?
I think the government knew it was going to happen and allowed it to go on so they could justify their pre-determined plans to attack Iraq and turn back to clock to the 19th Century. Sitting back and doing nothing about impending disaster seems all too easy for the Bush administration (ahem, Katrina).
But does anyone really think that this same administation could actively plan and execute that sort of grand scheme with military precision and keep it a secret? They're far too incompetent for anything like that. Or is the whole incompetence thing all just an act to make everyone think that it couldn't be possible? Nope, must be the former.
Why bother flying planes into buildings, or allowing others to do so, when you are the only remaining superpower and you can do exactly what you want, when you want, almost entirely without the support of anyone else? Jesus, do you not think if "they" were that smart and calculating they'd have made a better job of Iraq?
Like, dude, where's my war???
(The Good Doctor) Martin Fradley wrote: Why bother flying planes into buildings, or allowing others to do so, when you are the only remaining superpower and you can do exactly what you want, when you want, almost entirely without the support of anyone else? Jesus, do you not think if "they" were that smart and calculating they'd have made a better job of Iraq?
Like, dude, where's my war???
Without some sort of tramatic Pearl Harbor-type event to use as a rallying cry and creator of a climate of fear, the American people would have (probably) never even gotten behind this whole nebulous "War on Terror" in the first place. Regardless of whether or not attacking Afganistan and Iraq were pre-planned events, it's doubtful that the majority of U.S. citizens would have jumped aboard invading those countries without some reason (albeit an invented reason like WMDs). Had it not been for 9/11, the supposed threat of terrorist attacks (via WMDs) would not have been such a hot issue and typical American complacency would have won the day. Even if they sat back and did nothing about impeding terror attacks on 9/11 (easy enough to do), the Bush administation is clearly not smart or calculating enough to run their own wars with the sort of John Wayne World War II mentality they've exhibited. Deciding to take advantage of a likely terrorist attack is one thing, but thinking that Americans would be greeted as liberators while completely ignoring the fragile ethnic/religious schisms within Iraq is another.
68Pontiac wrote: Here is a good article from a completely unbiased magazine, and one that I think that can credibily debunk all these damn conspericy theories:
http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/defense/1227842.html
JHC
Yeah POPULAR MECHANICS was mentioned in the LOOSE CHANGE video.The whole thing does seem incredible,though very convincingly put. There again you only have to look at the M.O. of the recent bombings/attempted bombings to think this was anyone other than Al-Queda. What is more disturbing,especially in the light of rumours that the Bush Administration knew something like this was going to happen,that certain bigwigs would "plan ahead". The part of the documentary which shed light,that a short time before,the owner of the Twin Towers insured them for terrorist cover to the tune of billions.What was more alarming was that there was a sudden influx of "PUT" Shares put on American Airlines. "PUT" Shares being a stake made that a certain stock was going to fall...
Monty,The Cook,The Wife and Her Lover wrote:
68Pontiac wrote: Here is a good article from a completely unbiased magazine, and one that I think that can credibily debunk all these damn conspericy theories:
http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/defense/1227842.html
JHC
Yeah POPULAR MECHANICS was mentioned in the LOOSE CHANGE video.The whole thing does seem incredible,though very convincingly put. There again you only have to look at the M.O. of the recent bombings/attempted bombings to think well,THIS wasn't made up! What does seem more convincing,especially in the light of rumours that the Bush Administration knew something like this was going to happen,that certain bigwigs would "plan ahead". The part of the documentary which shed light,that a short time before,the owner of the Twin Towers insured them for terrorist cover to the tune of billions.What was more alarming was that there was a sudden influx of "PUT" Shares put on American Airlines. "PUT" Shares being a stake made that a certain stock was going to fall...
Living in Didsbury warping your bonce, Monty?
Monty,The Cook,The Wife and Her Lover wrote:
68Pontiac wrote: Here is a good article from a completely unbiased magazine, and one that I think that can credibily debunk all these damn conspericy theories:
http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/defense/1227842.html
JHC
Yeah POPULAR MECHANICS was mentioned in the LOOSE CHANGE video.The whole thing does seem incredible,though very convincingly put. There again you only have to look at the M.O. of the recent bombings/attempted bombings to think this was anyone other than Al-Queda. What is more disturbing,especially in the light of rumours that the Bush Administration knew something like this was going to happen,that certain bigwigs would "plan ahead". The part of the documentary which shed light,that a short time before,the owner of the Twin Towers insured them for terrorist cover to the tune of billions.What was more alarming was that there was a sudden influx of "PUT" Shares put on American Airlines. "PUT" Shares being a stake made that a certain stock was going to fall...
Ok let's see here. When it comes to credibility, who has more to loose? A web page video or Popular Mechanics? Which tends to have scientific data and not political based? Add in that the Discovery Channel and PBS have done shows debunking all the theories as well. Why are people putting faith in these fly-by-night websites with no actual authority on any matter?
That the Bush administration knew is propostious! Are you aware of how much info comes into intel...plus the added fact that before 9/11 FBI and CIA didn't have good working relationships. Ummm, that might be closer to the truth.
This wasn't the first terrorist attack on the towers...thus why they were insured. I think this is common sense.
American Airlines has been a target for terrorist attacks since the 80s and has is one of the hardest hit airlines, especially when the airline companies were already having issues just prior to 9/11. A couple were saved from bankruptcy just before 9/11, is that some how connected too?
Come on people, this is just silly. I'm suprised with the intellegence we have on this board that anything like this is even being considered.
JHC
There is good evidence to prove both sides. But it just depends how you interpret thae said evidence.
Jeffari-al-Texani wrote: I think the Cylons destroyed the WTC...
disprove THAT!!
Now we're getting somewhere!!!
JHC
steveone wrote: I had this link as my signature for ages-only changed it 2 weeks ago. When i first saw it i was pretty much convinced,hence the signature. However as time passes and things move on,i doubt it was in inside job now. Or is that how the US Goverment want me to feel?
I don't believe the link was your signature. Prove it.
