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Didn't see it. Hope to catch a repeat on my cable tv thingy.

Did it make any reference to the CIA backed overthrow of Mohammed Mossadegh in 1953? He was Iran's 1st (and only) democratically elected leader. Pissed off the West when he tried to nationalise Iranian oil. Couldn't blame him seeing as how Royal Dutch Shell were raking in most of the revenue whilst many Iranians lived in poverty, were illiterate etc. Wanna know why many Iranians hate America? Look to 1953

He was Time Magazine's Man of The Year in 1952 don't you know

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Thought it was quite entertaining. Obviously parts of it are fictionalised, and more could of been made of the history of bin Laden, instead of just introducing him as the financer of some bombers.

really, it's just a watered down version of the parts of the truth (such as bin laden's previous dealings with the US arent mentioned) but what else do you expect? the truth would be nice, but it just aint gonna happen:shrug:

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(The Good Doctor) Martin Fradley wrote: I'm struggling to see the show as right wing (a few glib swipes at Clinton aside) given that it appears to be moving towards claiming that 9/11 could/should have been prevented. I've said it before and I'll say it again: conspiracy theorising is just a defence mechanism against the much scarier thought that the American Satans ain't really in control: perhaps, scarily enough, real 'freedom' is the freedom to climb on board a jet armed with a penknife and end up killing nearly 3000 people??

People want to believe that someone's the boss and that someone's in control and shaping everything. It's hopelessly Oedipal: we hate daddy USA but need them at the same time. Anyhow, just flicking through the paper today shows what a fiasco any so-called 'conspiracy' has been: Bin Laden off the map; Iraq a disaster; Taliban still kicking arse in Afghanistan.

I thought the show was good. Keitel was on autopilot (again) and it was a bit weird to see that lad from 'Eastenders' as a rabid jihadist, but, y'know, quality TV. I find it amazing that people believe they can can draw lines between "the facts" and "propaganda". How come geeks all over the globe stuck in front of his/her PC can see through the bullshit??? It's vain and narcissistic and self-aggrandising, to say the least. The paranoid style, anyone???

[Oh, it was hopelessly macho, natch!: "Are there any men left in Washington anymore??"!!!!]

Amazingly, I completely agree with you. Now obviously ABC did mostly for ratings (money), but I wonder if they made it public of a docudrama, instead of a documentary, to kill the conspirecy theories out there? A bit of reverse psycology?

JHC

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jonathan wrote: yeah i'm watching it and its slanted to the right. Not really paying attention tho. its just fooking stopid that their showing it on the eve of 9/11. Its the media (not to mention bush)that keeps reminding us to be scared and live in fear. everyday its something.hope this is coherent. A bit to drink tonite.

I completely agree with you, as it is slanted, but so are Micheal Moore's and Oliver Stone's crap, yet peoplebuy into that all the time. People love dirt on others and conspirecy theories.

There is a time to draw a line in the sand, so to speak. It is when factual based info is in higher ratio than the opinionated based info. When people add their opinion, and only seek out the info to back their assumption, well then they are just jack-asses...... or if done a little more they are Moore asses.

JHC

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Tell you what is REALLY disgusting...... Some affiliates pulled this show in the US last night because they feared an FCC and AFA backlash...because it features firefighters swearing.....pious cunts, I'm sure if a plane hit THEM they'd say "oh gosh"

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:abovelol:

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Hmmm. Second part went downhill for me. Endlessly masculinist, hopelessly melodramatic, wildly populist with more than a hint of the Dirty harry about it (damn those bureaucrats (sp.?) and wussy politicians!). Best bit was the obvious love affair between handsome leader of Northern Alliance and Donnie Wahlberg.

Lust in the dust!!!

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Yep, it went a bit downhill with the second part.

I was expecting worse to be honest, but overall it was well put together and didn't stray too far into the fantasism side of things.

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But on a more positive note, The Daily Show/Colbert Report returned with new shows last night. Kicks the crap out of some smarmy docudrama.

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