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I received a quote from a UK vendor this morning.

Some of the components in the device they're offering to sell me come from America.

Before they will sell anything to me, they want me to sign a form that states that I will not export the device to Cuba, Iran, Sudan, Syria, Burma, N Korea or anywhere else that US won't deal with.

So I've got a choice - do I sign the form, thereby taking an active role in with America's pissy foreign policy? Or do I tell them to stick their stupid form up their pipe and go and spend my five grand somewhere else?

Decisions, decisions.

Maybe I should start a poll on here and let you decide :wink:

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Bit of Blue Tack and some Lego,sorted! Bobs Yer Uncle! :laugh:

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If you can't fix it with gaffer tape, visegrips, wd40 and awindows98 boot disc...it's fucked, you'll need a new whateveritis.

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If you can't fix it with duct tape, it don't need fixin....

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we are talking about Diamond White's Anal Intruder Dildo here aren't we?

:scratch:

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Diamond White wrote: I received a quote from a UK vendor this morning.

Some of the components in the device they're offering to sell me come from America.

Before they will sell anything to me, they want me to sign a form that states that I will not export the device to Cuba, Iran, Sudan, Syria, Burma, N Korea or anywhere else that US won't deal with.

So I've got a choice - do I sign the form, thereby taking an active role in with America's pissy foreign policy? Or do I tell them to stick their stupid form up their pipe and go and spend my five grand somewhere else?

Decisions, decisions.

Maybe I should start a poll on here and let you decide :wink:

I'm an American, and I'd tell them to go fuck themselves.

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what do you expect when you buy an "AMCO complete uranium enrichment rod kit" sure you can have it, but the axis of evil.....

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erm...any of you cats running windows have already "digitally" signed an agreement like this one...

of course...it doesn't change the fact that there are a lot of cunts here in the States...

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Jeffari-al-Texani wrote: erm...any of you cats running windows have already "digitally" signed an agreement like this one...

of course...it doesn't change the fact that there are a lot of cunts here in the States...

Cats?

I thought only Huggy Bear and Snoop Dogg said that.

must be in everyday use over there then.

:laugh:

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They actually tried about 3 years ago to do this with canadian companies, and we did tell them to go f**k themselves...

Because Canada does deal with Cuba, and canadians go on vacation to Cuba...

In fact, Cuba has shops in Canada for cigars! that's funny, the government having shops directly... I was told so, never actually seen one.

That was one of the very few times we told the USA to go f**k themselves, the other one was the war in Iraq. But now that was have a conservative prime minister, I don't expect it to happen too often.

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Diamond White wrote: I received a quote from a UK vendor this morning.

Some of the components in the device they're offering to sell me come from America.

Before they will sell anything to me, they want me to sign a form that states that I will not export the device to Cuba, Iran, Sudan, Syria, Burma, N Korea or anywhere else that US won't deal with.

So I've got a choice - do I sign the form, thereby taking an active role in with America's pissy foreign policy? Or do I tell them to stick their stupid form up their pipe and go and spend my five grand somewhere else?

Decisions, decisions.

Maybe I should start a poll on here and let you decide :wink:

If you want the device, sign and buy. If you don't, don't. As for American's being a bunch of c*#t's...let's see...how do we say it in the hood.....oh yeah.. so is yo mamma.

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Tex wrote: so is yo mamma.

'kin 'ell Col, beat that! :eek:

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Cue 100+ "Yo mamma is so fat..."

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I'd like to point out that the title of this thread is a reference to a thread that was posted on here some time ago; a thread which has become a common source of off-line amusement to some of us.

Furthermore, I would like to say that I'm sorry for any offence caused.

I'd like to, but I can't. I couldn't care less.

So bite me, ya yankee morons :finger:

EDIT: Thanks for your advice - there were three quotations on my desk and one of them has gone in the bin. I've made up a technical objection, so the buyers will have to reject it.

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With the assistance of Valerie Singleton and Peter Purves,you could make it yourself,using the cardboard tubes of a toilet roll and some glue....

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Monty Does Dallas wrote: With the assistance of Valerie Singleton and Peter Purves,you could make it yourself,using the cardboard tubes of a toilet roll and some glue....

GET DOWN Shep:lol:

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Diamond White wrote: I'd like to point out that the title of this thread is a reference to a thread that was posted on here some time ago; a thread which has become a common source of off-line amusement to some of us.

Cheevers!

I believe I even got my own private email from you on that one!

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Jeffari-al-Texani wrote: erm...any of you cats running windows have already "digitally" signed an agreement like this one...

of course...it doesn't change the fact that there are a lot of cunts here in the States...

Click-thru EULA's have no teeth. I see nothing wrong with breaking them.

Also, I don't run Windows, and I don't encourage others to do so either.

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Tex mate, you've a lot to learn.......if yer gonna insult someone's mam (even if it is playful banter), it looks a lot beeter if you don't edit the word cunts :thumb:

My mam was down to see me a couple of weeks back and my better half had to apologise for my colourful language.....

My mam replied with they're only words.

My mam's quite cool :viking:

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Shug wrote: My mam replied with they're only words.

My mam washed my mouth out with soap. Uh, when I was a kid.

I have no idea what it was I said. :lol:

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Comrade Shampanyov wrote:

Shug wrote: My mam replied with they're only words.

My mam washed my mouth out with soap. Uh, when I was a kid.

I have no idea what it was I said. :lol:

The CURE?

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harsh thread title. just because you don't agree with some of their government policies. heck what of their policies have we liked here lately and we still love our american noolers.

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NOOLigan wrote: harsh thread title. just because you don't agree with some of their government policies. heck what of their policies have we liked here lately and we still love our american noolers.

Governemt: Of the people For the people BY the people.

ergo what the gov do, the citzens do.

BTW...you can get your money back on windows on a preinstalled PC, just boot the machine first time with a non windows boot media, and format the drive. Then begin re-installing windows, and when the EULA comes up, say "no i do nOT fucking aggree to you having sexual access to my arse mr gates"....and the shop HAVE to give you money back on it. Chap managed to get 50 quid out of Dell just this week by doing same ;)

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Tex wrote:

...how do we say it in the hood...

You live in the ghetto, Tex?

Or do you live in a nice area?

My guess is you live in a nice area and you use phrases like 'your mamma' when you want to sound cool and hard, or when you just want to make little jokes about poor people.

Like most non-poor Americans, you would piss yourself with fear if you actually went anywhere near 'the hood'.

Do I win £40?

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Doctor? wrote:

NOOLigan wrote: harsh thread title. just because you don't agree with some of their government policies. heck what of their policies have we liked here lately and we still love our american noolers.

Governemt: Of the people For the people BY the people.

ergo what the gov do, the citzens do.

Now that's just idiotic logic. As if the average American has any real power in determining what our corrupt government does.

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His Holiness, The Pope wrote:

Doctor? wrote:

NOOLigan wrote: harsh thread title. just because you don't agree with some of their government policies. heck what of their policies have we liked here lately and we still love our american noolers.

Governemt: Of the people For the people BY the people.

ergo what the gov do, the citzens do.

Now that's just idiotic logic.

Coming from an American that's a helluva put down Churchy :laugh:

Sorry, I'll get ma coat ;)

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then why the FUCK do they bang on about democracy and freedom so fucking much it makes us all ill.

You can't give it the whole "we're great, we're free, we vote" shite 24/7 then stick yer hands up and scream " we have no control over these monsters" every time they do something evil. Vote for someone else, well unless of course US democracy is a lie.

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BUSH bangs on about freedom and democracy, every time he wants continued authority to trample on it. Just like he bangs on about compassion when he's buggering the poor.

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One flaw in the Doctor's argument: the Americans DIDN'T vote for Dubya. He cheated by getting his brother Jeb to fix the vote in Florida. The other guy won, he got more votes in more states.

So it's totally wrong to blame the people of America for the actions of the government because most of them didn't vote for them.

Saying that, they did all sit on their fat lardy fucking arses and did fuck all while a party of crooks took over the white house. And since then they've moaned a bit but they've generally sat and done fuck all while the pretend government fucked up their contry and did it's best to fuck up everyone elses country as well.

Any decent country would have had a revolution. What a bunch of fat, lazy, cowardly cunts they are.

I didn't realise I hated them so much until I started typing this.

(It's Diamond, by the way - I logged in a Cheesy and now I can't log out!)

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I'm back :thumb:

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Doctor? wrote: then why the FUCK do they bang on about democracy and freedom so fucking much it makes us all ill.

You can't give it the whole "we're great, we're free, we vote" shite 24/7 then stick yer hands up and scream " we have no control over these monsters" every time they do something evil. Vote for someone else, well unless of course US democracy is a lie.

yeh just like you agree with everything your government does.

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[Baldrick enters, wearing an apparatus on his head which is dangling a piece of cheese from the end of his nose. Edmund begins to speak about something, then notices.] Edmund: [calmly] Why have you got a piece of cheese tied to the end of your nose? Baldrick: To catch mice, My Lord -- I lie on the floor with my mouth open and hope they scurry in. Edmund: ...and do they? Baldrick: Not yet, My Lord. Edmund: Well, I'm not surprised -- your breath comes straight from Satan's bottom, Baldrick. The only sort of mouse you're going to catch is one without a nose. Baldrick: That's a pity, because the nose is the best bit on a mouse... Edmund: Any bit of a mouse would seem like luxury compared to what Percy and I must eat tonight. We are entertaining puritan vegetable folk, Balders; and that means no meat. Baldrick: In that case, I shall prepare my Turnip Surprise. Edmund: and the surprise is...? Baldrick: There's nothing else in it except the turnip. Edmund: So, in other words, the Turnip Surprise would be...a turnip. Baldrick: [realization] Oh yeah...

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That was Shug's entry for 'non sequitur of the year' award.

To vote for Shug dial 0845 383 7484

That's 0845 383 SHUG

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God Bless America !

Well answer me this;

Who would Jesus Bomb?

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Digi Mike Binoche wrote: God Bless America !

Well answer me this;

Who would Jesus Bomb?

The Christians.

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Comrade Shampanyov wrote:

Digi Mike Binoche wrote: God Bless America !

Well answer me this;

Who would Jesus Bomb?

The Christians.

:eek:

Why, what have they done?

(Nothing. For years)

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Doctor? wrote: then why the FUCK do they bang on about democracy and freedom so fucking much it makes us all ill.

You can't give it the whole "we're great, we're free, we vote" shite 24/7 then stick yer hands up and scream " we have no control over these monsters" every time they do something evil. Vote for someone else, well unless of course US democracy is a lie.

The people who rant about democracy and freedom are self-serving demagogues trying to invoke nationalist fervor. US democracy IS a lie when corporations and corrupt officials influence every election and bit of legislation that crosses the table. The American political system is full of shit...and being virtually restricted to a two-party system is much to blame. There's no one to vote for, that's the problem. Both parties are incompetent powermongers, but one of them happens to be much worse.

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i just voted for every third party who ran. none of them won. just the dem's or the rep's.

america is not really a democracy because capitalism holds higher sway. when moral decision are made so that the most money is generated then there is a problem.

my government does not represent my ideals or my beliefs. the liberals are not liberal enough and the conservatives are not conservative enough. then you are given a choice of two schmucks who played greek pranks on each other in college.

no such thing as freedom here.

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Wow, this little bud of a thread has blossomed since I've been out tonight and look what it became, a true thing of beauty :laugh:

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Can I say that even though I don't agree with the Bush administration, I'm proud to be an American?

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[magenta]shedmonite61[/magenta] wrote: Can I say that even though I don't agree with the Bush administration, I'm proud to be an American?

Nope

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Oh, come on Burt... Mom always told me: What I like about America is that you can speak your mind. Japan is a free country, but everybody follows the same way. If someone steps on your rights, fight back...

I'm proud to be an American, but I'm definitely not a Southerner... I need to get out of here someday...

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Cheesy Burek wrote: I logged in a Cheesy and now I can't log out!

Cheevers, Cheesy!

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[magenta]shedmonite61[/magenta] wrote:

I'm proud to be an American, but I'm definitely not a Southerner... I need to get out of here someday...

well the north won't improve your opinion, may i suggest west

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As a matter of fact, that's where I'm thinking of going... :thumb:

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Oh? :cool:

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NOOLigan wrote: harsh thread title. just because you don't agree with some of their government policies. heck what of their policies have we liked here lately and we still love our american noolers.

Even me???:love2:

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EdelBrock wrote:

NOOLigan wrote: harsh thread title. just because you don't agree with some of their government policies. heck what of their policies have we liked here lately and we still love our american noolers.

Even me???:love2:

hey we can have a civilised argument. I value that. :blush:

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His Holiness, The Pope wrote: The people who rant about democracy and freedom are self-serving demagogues trying to invoke nationalist fervor. US democracy IS a lie when corporations and corrupt officials influence every election and bit of legislation that crosses the table. The American political system is full of shit...and being virtually restricted to a two-party system is much to blame. There's no one to vote for, that's the problem. Both parties are incompetent powermongers, but one of them happens to be much worse.

Correction: Democracy and freedom are an idea. A thought as light as a whisper. There are many that try to crush it, and corruption is one....but I'll be damned if the idea dies on my watch.

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EdelBrock wrote:

His Holiness, The Pope wrote: The people who rant about democracy and freedom are self-serving demagogues trying to invoke nationalist fervor. US democracy IS a lie when corporations and corrupt officials influence every election and bit of legislation that crosses the table. The American political system is full of shit...and being virtually restricted to a two-party system is much to blame. There's no one to vote for, that's the problem. Both parties are incompetent powermongers, but one of them happens to be much worse.

Correction: Democracy and freedom are an idea. A thought as light as a whisper. There are many that try to crush it, and corruption is one....but I'll be damned if the idea dies on my watch.

Aren't you fighting for the wrong side then?

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His Holiness, The Pope wrote:

EdelBrock wrote:

His Holiness, The Pope wrote: The people who rant about democracy and freedom are self-serving demagogues trying to invoke nationalist fervor. US democracy IS a lie when corporations and corrupt officials influence every election and bit of legislation that crosses the table. The American political system is full of shit...and being virtually restricted to a two-party system is much to blame. There's no one to vote for, that's the problem. Both parties are incompetent powermongers, but one of them happens to be much worse.

Correction: Democracy and freedom are an idea. A thought as light as a whisper. There are many that try to crush it, and corruption is one....but I'll be damned if the idea dies on my watch.

Aren't you fighting for the wrong side then?

???????

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by the way...I am a CUNT!!!

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EdelBrock wrote:

His Holiness, The Pope wrote: The people who rant about democracy and freedom are self-serving demagogues trying to invoke nationalist fervor. US democracy IS a lie when corporations and corrupt officials influence every election and bit of legislation that crosses the table. The American political system is full of shit...and being virtually restricted to a two-party system is much to blame. There's no one to vote for, that's the problem. Both parties are incompetent powermongers, but one of them happens to be much worse.

Correction: Democracy and freedom are an idea. A thought as light as a whisper. There are many that try to crush it, and corruption is one....but I'll be damned if the idea dies on my watch.

So how do you feel about warrantless wiretaps? About dispensing with Habeas Corpus? About national ID? About expanded search and seizure? About voting machines that don't work, and votesr being intimidated in "certain" neighborhoods?

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Comrade Shampanyov wrote:

EdelBrock wrote:

His Holiness, The Pope wrote: The people who rant about democracy and freedom are self-serving demagogues trying to invoke nationalist fervor. US democracy IS a lie when corporations and corrupt officials influence every election and bit of legislation that crosses the table. The American political system is full of shit...and being virtually restricted to a two-party system is much to blame. There's no one to vote for, that's the problem. Both parties are incompetent powermongers, but one of them happens to be much worse.

Correction: Democracy and freedom are an idea. A thought as light as a whisper. There are many that try to crush it, and corruption is one....but I'll be damned if the idea dies on my watch.

So how do you feel about warrantless wiretaps? About dispensing with Habeas Corpus? About national ID? About expanded search and seizure? About voting machines that don't work, and votesr being intimidated in "certain" neighborhoods?

if your a terrorist i hope they have your phone tapped, i don't give a damn if my phone is tapped and i assume that it is. who believes that habeus corpus protects you? have you ever met a cop. they do what they want anyway. give me a ***-**-****. it depends on what they are looking for. my voting machine worked fine. in texas people who try to intimidate voters are likely to be shot.

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Comrade Shampanyov wrote:

EdelBrock wrote:

His Holiness, The Pope wrote: The people who rant about democracy and freedom are self-serving demagogues trying to invoke nationalist fervor. US democracy IS a lie when corporations and corrupt officials influence every election and bit of legislation that crosses the table. The American political system is full of shit...and being virtually restricted to a two-party system is much to blame. There's no one to vote for, that's the problem. Both parties are incompetent powermongers, but one of them happens to be much worse.

Correction: Democracy and freedom are an idea. A thought as light as a whisper. There are many that try to crush it, and corruption is one....but I'll be damned if the idea dies on my watch.

So how do you feel about warrantless wiretaps? About dispensing with Habeas Corpus? About national ID? About expanded search and seizure? About voting machines that don't work, and votesr being intimidated in "certain" neighborhoods?

Wire taps: Nothing new, and it's a red herring.

Habeus Corpus: It's called political strategy. Honestly, probably 80% of politicians have this as a possibility, they just haven't been caught yet. It's not set to a specific party...but corrupt politicians should be axed.

National ID: SSNs were promised never to be used for idetification purposes also. Mixed feelings. The ID has it's purpose, but has it's downside.....but so does everything in normal life.

Search / seizure: Another red herring

Voting Machines: With new technology you can only test once annually, of course there will be bugs. Not that concerned.

Corruption is what is evil and it lies on both party ends. There are good people on both ends. It's more important to identify the good people, from the corrupt.

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EdelBrock wrote: Wire taps: Nothing new, and it's a red herring.

Warrantless wiretaps are new.

Habeus Corpus: It's called political strategy. Honestly, probably 80% of politicians have this as a possibility, they just haven't been caught yet. It's not set to a specific party...but corrupt politicians should be axed.

Uh, you might want to look up habeas corpus....

National ID: SSNs were promised never to be used for idetification purposes also. Mixed feelings. The ID has it's purpose, but has it's downside.....but so does everything in normal life.

Search / seizure: Another red herring

Expanding the government's search and seizure powers is a red herring in a discussion about "freedom and democaracy"?

Voting Machines: With new technology you can only test once annually, of course there will be bugs. Not that concerned.

"Not that concerned" about voting machines that don't work? About voting machines that can be hacked? About those "back doors"? About the lack of a paper trail?

Not to mention the disenfranchisement of voters in some neighborhoods, which you didn't address.

And you say you'll be damned if democracy dies on "your" watch....

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Comrade,

So these are YOUR concerns with a Democrate veiwpoint. Some of them are real concerns we need to keep an eye on, but most are media/politically driven.

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Missy Jem wrote: Wow, this little bud of a thread has blossomed since I've been out tonight and look what it became, a true thing of beauty :laugh:

I'm going to change it's name then.

To Jemma.

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EdelBrock wrote: Comrade,

So these are YOUR concerns with a Democrate veiwpoint. Some of them are real concerns we need to keep an eye on, but most are media/politically driven.

Speaking as an outside observor ( of the entire human race), I must say that the reliable reports I have read over the last few months would strongly suggest that Comrade's concerns are more than valid. Of course some will manipulate the various situations, but not everything that folks make political bluster over is fake at it's core (like for instance the collective term "Al Quaeda", which is an invention of the US Govt. ( the name, not the organisation (probably) [1] ).

The voting machine thing in particular should enrage every American surely? If democaracy and voting are so utterly key to the apple pie way of life, shouldn't the tiniest sniff of a hint that something might be less that 100% perfect 100% of the time, drive the entire nation into a frenzy?

Y'all need to get yer heads round this.....what winds us about about Yous'uns is things like the above, and things like the list of "republican" beliefs I posted. It's the bizarre double standards, the unbelievable self-centredness ( of the nation, not any individual here I mean)...and frankly, that you o not live up to your own hype. The US media pumps out borderline propaganda with the whole "truth, justice, and the American Way" malarky. We are raised on this shite....me less so than most, having always favour British TV shows, even when I was a kid[2], when we later find out that the US, in addtion to the occassional great service to mankind, does actually do really evil shit too, within and without......it pisses us off. From then on, hearing US rhetoric is painful, upsetting, and infuriating.

No one hates you cos you're free :lol: we hate You cos you keep telling us how free you are while slowly deteriorating into late 1930's Germany. Oddly though, it's the mass,the shapeless throng, that we hate, I have not met any Americans I wanted to throttle, I've never met any online here either (few fckers on Linux anf F1 boards I heavily disliked).

Maybe I am speaking only for myself in this, but it's how I see it....the national hypocracy is what drives us nuts.....that and the fucked up things that happen there of course, but I'm willing to put that own to the sanity bell curve being very widebottomed with such a large population.....no actually...you actually do have a mathematically significant over proportion of fucking LOONS.

Ultimately you need to act like what you are. You're a rich, powerful, and relatively well educated nation, in fact the richest and most powerful. So why not act like a big brother ( not THAT BB FFS!), instead of the school bully..taking everyone's lunch money and telling lies about people. More Apollo Less Armageddon please.

Jeff is a cunt tho :thumb:

[1]Source "The power of nightmares" BBC TV [2] Not saying I never watched US shows, I loved things like Star trek an Salvage One ( remember that?)...but unlike many of my contemporaries, I neer got The A-team, or He-Man, or The Fall Guy, they bored me stupid.

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(The Good Doctor) Martin Fradley wrote: Feeling amorous today, Col??!!

Or six foot deep in shit and looking for something to dig with. :evil4:

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I just thought it would be a nice thing to say.

I didn't expect the Spanish Inquisition

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nobody....

etc.

:thumb:

So....BTW....what's your verdict on that bint in Torchwood, a pudgey Welsh Jemma or what?

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Doctor? wrote: nobody....

etc.

:thumb:

So....BTW....what's your verdict on that bint in Torchwood, a pudgey Welsh Jemma or what?

I'd give 'er one. Welsh accent does it for me. Series is a bit shit though.

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not THAT bad. The Seppo's will wank for it I reckon, a Brit show with total Us production values...and a Yank, in CHARGE no less.

you've more chance with whatssherwelshface than our Jem matey :lol:

EDIT: not fuckin wrong about the accent though :thumb:

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I honestly don't get this anti Americanism that sometimes raises its ugly head here. sure we can disagree with their government's politics. i know i do, as do most the American who post here.

there are loads of threads that mean bugger all to people outside the UK, yet you don't see any the English are cunts threads. let them be happy that the forces of evil have had a setback.

In case you hadn't noticed this is an international site, well if you want to get particular a north American site.

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Doctor? wrote: Speaking as an outside observor ( of the entire human race), I must say that the reliable reports I have read over the last few months would strongly suggest that Comrade's concerns are more than valid...

I found this long speech very interesting. I do not agree with it enterily but at least 3/4 of it is truth. Not another country promotes itself like the USA do, so I find normal that they got sometimes a bad feedback.

If find also quite crazy the numbers of threads that have been written about these US elections so far. If I well remember : Canadian ones - 1 thread made by Nicolas (almost embarrassed to spam BCD with the political life of his country) German ones - 1 thread. I do not know if Bere wrote it, but only one even if the results were tought. British ones - a few more, but well, BCD mainly belongs to Brits and Americans. Nothing upon the Italian ones - but it was worth to get rid of Berlusconi... Polish ones - thank you Arek (our Warsaw nooler) to enlighten us about the politics of your country... Next year will be the Presidential election in my country. I bet no-one will speak about it. And if I am the one to do it, I will surely feel as a one of the most boring nooler on this board...

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It's no good to just object to something that's been said, you have to come up with evidence to disprove the statement.

So far nobody has come up with any sort of response to the statement that Americans are a bunch of fannies.

Does this mean I put on 40lbs?

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Diamond White wrote: It's no good to just object to something that's been said, you have to come up with evidence to disprove the statement.

So far nobody has come up with any sort of response to the statement that Americans are a bunch of fannies.

Does this mean I put on 40lbs?

ok. i know Americans. one of my bosses is an American, some of my friends are American, heck even some of my family are. all great people.

of course there are cunts everywhere.

i recommend a holiday over there. they are some of the friendliest most helpful people you'll ever run into.

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NOOLigan wrote:

Diamond White wrote: It's no good to just object to something that's been said, you have to come up with evidence to disprove the statement.

So far nobody has come up with any sort of response to the statement that Americans are a bunch of fannies.

Does this mean I put on 40lbs?

i recommend a holiday over there. they are some of the friendliest most helpful people you'll ever run into.

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

You've never been to NYC then?

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GlasVegas wrote:

NOOLigan wrote:

Diamond White wrote: It's no good to just object to something that's been said, you have to come up with evidence to disprove the statement.

So far nobody has come up with any sort of response to the statement that Americans are a bunch of fannies.

Does this mean I put on 40lbs?

i recommend a holiday over there. they are some of the friendliest most helpful people you'll ever run into.

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

You've never been to NYC then?

even there.

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The answer is yes!

:nuts:

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Jiphy wrote:

Doctor? wrote: Speaking as an outside observor ( of the entire human race), I must say that the reliable reports I have read over the last few months would strongly suggest that Comrade's concerns are more than valid...

I found this long speech very interesting. I do not agree with it enterily but at least 3/4 of it is truth. Not another country promotes itself like the USA do, so I find normal that they got sometimes a bad feedback.

If find also quite crazy the numbers of threads that have been written about these US elections so far. If I well remember : Canadian ones - 1 thread made by Nicolas (almost embarrassed to spam BCD with the political life of his country) German ones - 1 thread. I do not know if Bere wrote it, but only one even if the results were tought. British ones - a few more, but well, BCD mainly belongs to Brits and Americans. Nothing upon the Italian ones - but it was worth to get rid of Berlusconi... Polish ones - thank you Arek (our Warsaw nooler) to enlighten us about the politics of your country... Next year will be the Presidential election in my country. I bet no-one will speak about it. And if I am the one to do it, I will surely feel as a one of the most boring nooler on this board...

He we have an election 22 november. Prior to the previous election, 4 years ago, a politician was shot dead here. Any of you remember that or even his name? We don't have presidents although he would have liked to have been one. Things have changed the last few years over here. So we should care I guess.

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NOOLigan wrote:

GlasVegas wrote:

NOOLigan wrote:

Diamond White wrote: It's no good to just object to something that's been said, you have to come up with evidence to disprove the statement.

So far nobody has come up with any sort of response to the statement that Americans are a bunch of fannies.

Does this mean I put on 40lbs?

i recommend a holiday over there. they are some of the friendliest most helpful people you'll ever run into.

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

You've never been to NYC then?

even there.

B.O.L.L.O.C.K.S.

World renowned for being the rudest cunts in the world. Even worse than London Underground stuff who are uber-cunts.

If your experience of America is a two week holiday in Florida or Vegas then I can see how you might come to that conclusion but to describe "Americans" (whatever that's supposed to mean, it's a big place you know) as "the most helpful people you'll ever bump into" is fucking preposterous.

:nod: :nod: :nod:

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PCLike wrote: He we have an election 22 november. Prior to the previous election, 4 years ago, a politician was shot dead here. Any of you remember that or even his name? We don't have presidents although he would have liked to have been one. Things have changed the last few years over here. So we should care I guess.

Wim Kok ?

Sorry if it is not him, just a memory...

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PCLike wrote:

Jiphy wrote:

Doctor? wrote: Speaking as an outside observor ( of the entire human race), I must say that the reliable reports I have read over the last few months would strongly suggest that Comrade's concerns are more than valid...

I found this long speech very interesting. I do not agree with it enterily but at least 3/4 of it is truth. Not another country promotes itself like the USA do, so I find normal that they got sometimes a bad feedback.

If find also quite crazy the numbers of threads that have been written about these US elections so far. If I well remember : Canadian ones - 1 thread made by Nicolas (almost embarrassed to spam BCD with the political life of his country) German ones - 1 thread. I do not know if Bere wrote it, but only one even if the results were tought. British ones - a few more, but well, BCD mainly belongs to Brits and Americans. Nothing upon the Italian ones - but it was worth to get rid of Berlusconi... Polish ones - thank you Arek (our Warsaw nooler) to enlighten us about the politics of your country... Next year will be the Presidential election in my country. I bet no-one will speak about it. And if I am the one to do it, I will surely feel as a one of the most boring nooler on this board...

He we have an election 22 november. Prior to the previous election, 4 years ago, a politician was shot dead here. Any of you remember that or even his name? We don't have presidents although he would have liked to have been one. Things have changed the last few years over here. So we should care I guess.

I know this is going to come off wrong, but what impact does a netherlands or french president have on world politics? Not much, which is why it's in the news less.....I think.

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Doctor? wrote: Speaking as an outside observor ( of the entire human race), I must say that the reliable reports I have read over the last few months would strongly suggest that Comrade's concerns are more than valid. Of course some will manipulate the various situations, but not everything that folks make political bluster over is fake at it's core (like for instance the collective term "Al Quaeda", which is an invention of the US Govt. ( the name, not the organisation (probably) [1] ).

The voting machine thing in particular should enrage every American surely? If democaracy and voting are so utterly key to the apple pie way of life, shouldn't the tiniest sniff of a hint that something might be less that 100% perfect 100% of the time, drive the entire nation into a frenzy?

Y'all need to get yer heads round this.....what winds us about about Yous'uns is things like the above, and things like the list of "republican" beliefs I posted. It's the bizarre double standards, the unbelievable self-centredness ( of the nation, not any individual here I mean)...and frankly, that you o not live up to your own hype. The US media pumps out borderline propaganda with the whole "truth, justice, and the American Way" malarky. We are raised on this shite....me less so than most, having always favour British TV shows, even when I was a kid[2], when we later find out that the US, in addtion to the occassional great service to mankind, does actually do really evil shit too, within and without......it pisses us off. From then on, hearing US rhetoric is painful, upsetting, and infuriating.

No one hates you cos you're free :lol: we hate You cos you keep telling us how free you are while slowly deteriorating into late 1930's Germany. Oddly though, it's the mass,the shapeless throng, that we hate, I have not met any Americans I wanted to throttle, I've never met any online here either (few fckers on Linux anf F1 boards I heavily disliked).

Maybe I am speaking only for myself in this, but it's how I see it....the national hypocracy is what drives us nuts.....that and the fucked up things that happen there of course, but I'm willing to put that own to the sanity bell curve being very widebottomed with such a large population.....no actually...you actually do have a mathematically significant over proportion of fucking LOONS.

Ultimately you need to act like what you are. You're a rich, powerful, and relatively well educated nation, in fact the richest and most powerful. So why not act like a big brother ( not THAT BB FFS!), instead of the school bully..taking everyone's lunch money and telling lies about people. More Apollo Less Armageddon please.

I can see your points. Not to say I agree with them, but I think they are valid. What it boils down to, I think is that our media is out of control. One of the big differences from the US and many other countries is that we air our laundry out to EVERYONE, and nothing is held back...even assumptions which may not be true. This does nothing good for our image as a country. Don't get me wrong, I'm not asking to cover up stories, but rather the media take more thought in the impact it will have in its aftermath.

One of the differences with the US vs other countries is that it was built on ideas that aren't tangible. I think this comes off as a foriegn idea to many countries.

Anther problem is that we are, for the most part, a secluded country. When people go to vacation, they mainly stay within the US and don't travel and see other cultures. This has been good in keeping our self-image, but bad in understanding how to play well with the other kids out there.

In the end though, no offense taken by your post...a quite informative one that gives me a better understanding.....at least it explains more than just the "US are cunts" phrase.

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EdelBrock wrote:

PCLike wrote:

Jiphy wrote:

Doctor? wrote: Speaking as an outside observor ( of the entire human race), I must say that the reliable reports I have read over the last few months would strongly suggest that Comrade's concerns are more than valid...

I found this long speech very interesting. I do not agree with it enterily but at least 3/4 of it is truth. Not another country promotes itself like the USA do, so I find normal that they got sometimes a bad feedback.

If find also quite crazy the numbers of threads that have been written about these US elections so far. If I well remember : Canadian ones - 1 thread made by Nicolas (almost embarrassed to spam BCD with the political life of his country) German ones - 1 thread. I do not know if Bere wrote it, but only one even if the results were tought. British ones - a few more, but well, BCD mainly belongs to Brits and Americans. Nothing upon the Italian ones - but it was worth to get rid of Berlusconi... Polish ones - thank you Arek (our Warsaw nooler) to enlighten us about the politics of your country... Next year will be the Presidential election in my country. I bet no-one will speak about it. And if I am the one to do it, I will surely feel as a one of the most boring nooler on this board...

He we have an election 22 november. Prior to the previous election, 4 years ago, a politician was shot dead here. Any of you remember that or even his name? We don't have presidents although he would have liked to have been one. Things have changed the last few years over here. So we should care I guess.

I know this is going to come off wrong, but what impact does a netherlands or french president have on world politics? Not much, which is why it's in the news less.....I think.

Your missing the point. Each election is very relevant to the people who live in that country. Why is it that only the American posters on this board feel the need to spam it with 8 different threads on the same subject. Some people might conclude that it's indicative of their arrogance and inability to grasp the fact that there is a whole other place out there called the "rest of the world" where most people couldn't care less about what goes on at your elections.

You aint relegating our football threads and tales of drink and drug abuse to the lower half of BCD Soldier Boy. Not on my watch ;)

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GlasVegas wrote:

Your missing the point. Each election is very relevant to the people who live in that country. Why is it that only the American posters on this board feel the need to spam it with 8 different threads on the same subject. Some people might conclude that it's indicative of their arrogance and inability to grasp the fact that there is a whole other place out there called the "rest of the world" where most people couldn't care less about what goes on at your elections.

You aint relegating our football threads and tales of drink and drug abuse to the lower half of BCD Soldier Boy. Not on my watch ;)

Given, 8 posts was a bit much for me as well, and I did not start any of them. One for the elections and one for Rumsfeld standing down would have been appropriate though.

Never seen any football threads, since when has anyone talked about the Chargers, 49ers, or Cowboys here? Have seen a bunch of threads on that faggoty sport of soccer though!:smoking:

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I think the point about American elections being "more important" than elections in other countries contains a hint of truth, given America's self-appointed role as policer of the "Free/Capitalist World" (to which everyone else is made to follow lock-step). With America trampling across the globe on its little neocolonialist ventures, this week's election is very significant because the power relations have shifted for the first time in 12 years and...wait for it...America might actually start behaving itself better on the global stage. Maybe. Just maybe. So perhaps instead of whining about all the election threads, the rest of you might want to take things with a grain of optimism. But we shall see how the next few years pan out....

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EdelBrock wrote: I know this is going to come off wrong, but what impact does a netherlands or french president have on world politics? Not much, which is why it's in the news less.....I think.

When a French president do not say "amen" to American policy (Irak's invasion for an example), the country is almost listed on the list of the "axis of the evil"... and products are boycotted etc, etc...

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His Holiness, The Pope wrote: America might actually start behaving itself better on the global stage. Maybe. Just maybe. So perhaps instead of whining about all the election threads, the rest of you might want to take things with a grain of optimism. But we shall see how the next few years pan out....

OK. Everyone looks what happens in the USA. I do not know how it goes in Kazakhstan, but here, you cannot switch on a radio or a TV without being aware of the US elections... So, in my opinion, one thread could have been an option... well three maybe... one for the Democrats, one for the Republicans and one for the "my vote depends on my mood"...

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EdelBrock wrote: I know this is going to come off wrong, but what impact does a netherlands or french president have on world politics? Not much, which is why it's in the news less.....I think.

Do not take it wrong, but the Dutch have a Queen...

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GlasVegas wrote:

NOOLigan wrote:

GlasVegas wrote:

NOOLigan wrote:

Diamond White wrote: It's no good to just object to something that's been said, you have to come up with evidence to disprove the statement.

So far nobody has come up with any sort of response to the statement that Americans are a bunch of fannies.

Does this mean I put on 40lbs?

i recommend a holiday over there. they are some of the friendliest most helpful people you'll ever run into.

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

You've never been to NYC then?

even there.

B.O.L.L.O.C.K.S.

World renowned for being the rudest cunts in the world. Even worse than London Underground stuff who are uber-cunts.

If your experience of America is a two week holiday in Florida or Vegas then I can see how you might come to that conclusion but to describe "Americans" (whatever that's supposed to mean, it's a big place you know) as "the most helpful people you'll ever bump into" is fucking preposterous.

:nod: :nod: :nod:

been in ny with barely any english some years back. i stand by my statement.

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Jiphy wrote:

EdelBrock wrote: I know this is going to come off wrong, but what impact does a netherlands or french president have on world politics? Not much, which is why it's in the news less.....I think.

Do not take it wrong, but the Dutch have a Queen...

Their president is gay!!!!!????? I guess hanging around windmills with wooden shoes would force someone to bat for the other team.:laugh:

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EdelBrock wrote: I guess hanging around windmills with wooden shoes would force someone to bat for the other team.:laugh:

There is nothing gay about hanging around windmills. I'll have you know.

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PCLike wrote: He we have an election 22 november. Prior to the previous election, 4 years ago, a politician was shot dead here. Any of you remember that or even his name?

Pim something or other, conservative, gay, anti-immigrant. That's all I remember without cheating.... :shrug:

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His Holiness, The Pope wrote: I think the point about American elections being "more important" than elections in other countries contains a hint of truth, given America's self-appointed role as policer of the "Free/Capitalist World" (to which everyone else is made to follow lock-step). With America trampling across the globe on its little neocolonialist ventures, this week's election is very significant because the power relations have shifted for the first time in 12 years and...wait for it...America might actually start behaving itself better on the global stage. Maybe. Just maybe. So perhaps instead of whining about all the election threads, the rest of you might want to take things with a grain of optimism. But we shall see how the next few years pan out....

Exactly.

Well put, Popesy.

Oh, and I've found the majority of New Yorkers to belie the stereotype.

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you'll have to do better than this to get 40 dollars off me :nod:

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Comrade Shampanyov wrote:

PCLike wrote: He we have an election 22 november. Prior to the previous election, 4 years ago, a politician was shot dead here. Any of you remember that or even his name?

Pim something or other, conservative, gay, anti-immigrant. That's all I remember without cheating.... :shrug:

Yes, that's (was) him. There are very different views regarding the merits of his ideas / approach to politics. One of the consequences has been that currently (just for another few days) we have a minister (Verdonk) of immigration who introduced a very strong policy regarding foreigners entering the country. Anyone remember Mrs. Hirshi Ali who she managed to kick out of the country? What was most offensive (from my point of view) was the total lack of understanding by Verdonk about what it means to be minister (or politician) in a democratic country as we have over here.

But I also agree with the fact that the USA has a more important role in the world nowadays.

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Here's the British reaction to the election result shown on BBC4's 'The Late Edition, the other night. I imagine there were similar reactions around the world.

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Burt Reynolds wrote: Here's the British reaction to the election result shown on BBC4's 'The Late Edition, the other night. I imagine there were similar reactions around the world.

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:laugh: :laugh:

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Right wing,its the new Left wing don't you know. Just ask the Dutch.

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PCLike wrote:

Comrade Shampanyov wrote:

PCLike wrote: He we have an election 22 november. Prior to the previous election, 4 years ago, a politician was shot dead here. Any of you remember that or even his name?

Pim something or other, conservative, gay, anti-immigrant. That's all I remember without cheating.... :shrug:

Yes, that's (was) him. There are very different views regarding the merits of his ideas / approach to politics. One of the consequences has been that currently (just for another few days) we have a minister (Verdonk) of immigration who introduced a very strong policy regarding foreigners entering the country. Anyone remember Mrs. Hirshi Ali who she managed to kick out of the country? What was most offensive (from my point of view) was the total lack of understanding by Verdonk about what it means to be minister (or politician) in a democratic country as we have over here.

But I also agree with the fact that the USA has a more important role in the world nowadays.

All apologies. I got confused between Pim Fortuyn and Wim Kok who was your prime...

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Burt Reynolds wrote: Here's the British reaction to the election result shown on BBC4's 'The Late Edition, the other night. I imagine there were similar reactions around the world.

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They were meant to be serious or was it an entertainment show ?

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Jiphy wrote:

Burt Reynolds wrote: Here's the British reaction to the election result shown on BBC4's 'The Late Edition, the other night. I imagine there were similar reactions around the world.

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They were meant to be serious or was it an entertainment show ?

Its a satire show. I believe they were deadly serious, but the show is meant to entertain too.

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Burt Reynolds wrote: Here's the British reaction to the election result shown on BBC4's 'The Late Edition, the other night. I imagine there were similar reactions around the world.

push here

lol. i bet the dems feel the same way.

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Speaking of satire news shows, do you Britons get The Daily Show and The Colbert Report from Comedy Central?

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His Holiness, The Pope wrote: Speaking of satire news shows, do you Britons get The Daily Show and The Colbert Report from Comedy Central?

not unless they are on an obscure cable channel...

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we get the Daily Show, but for some reason it is now on at some horrible hour. yes americans do get political satire.

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fook all of you. i'm from brooklyn.

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jonathan wrote: fook all of you. i'm from brooklyn.

you're from buffalo. ;)

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His Holiness, The Pope wrote: I think the point about American elections being "more important" than elections in other countries contains a hint of truth, given America's self-appointed role as policer of the "Free/Capitalist World" (to which everyone else is made to follow lock-step). With America trampling across the globe on its little neocolonialist ventures, this week's election is very significant because the power relations have shifted for the first time in 12 years and...wait for it...America might actually start behaving itself better on the global stage. Maybe. Just maybe. So perhaps instead of whining about all the election threads, the rest of you might want to take things with a grain of optimism. But we shall see how the next few years pan out....

The US elections give us a better laugh than any other country's. Pure comedy.

We get John Stewart's Daily Show here in the UK. Never met anyone that watches it though.

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